2007-08-22 20:17:40 [Login] Nik 'n' Indiana 2007-08-22 20:17:40 [IP] Nik 'n' Indiana: 68.20.28.12 2007-08-22 20:17:41 [Join Room] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections 2007-08-22 20:17:55 [Disconnect] Nik 'n' Indiana 2007-08-22 20:30:46 [Login] Jana in Indiana 2007-08-22 20:30:46 [IP] Jana in Indiana: 76.214.133.163 2007-08-22 20:30:47 [Join Room] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections 2007-08-22 20:54:02 [Join Room] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections 2007-08-22 20:54:02 [IP] Nik 'n' Indiana: 68.20.28.12 2007-08-22 20:54:02 [Login] Nik 'n' Indiana 2007-08-22 20:54:14 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: Good evening Jana 2007-08-22 20:54:25 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: Hi Nik! 2007-08-22 20:56:45 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: thanks for your reply on the blue photos & monitors 2007-08-22 20:57:33 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: Pardon the interruption.. jas just finishing supper.... 2007-08-22 20:57:41 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: Thanks... no problem... 2007-08-22 20:57:52 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: I do photography semi-pro... 2007-08-22 20:58:08 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: awww - that's how oyu knew the answer! 2007-08-22 20:58:14 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: you* 2007-08-22 20:58:25 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: LOL.. typos on both sides... 2007-08-22 20:58:38 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: lol 2007-08-22 20:59:08 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: BRB 2007-08-22 20:59:35 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: ok 2007-08-22 21:04:24 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: Some of my stuff... 2007-08-22 21:04:54 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: some of what? 2007-08-22 21:05:33 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: www.flickr.com/photos/studio157 2007-08-22 21:05:55 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: cant cut and paste the url's... :( 2007-08-22 21:06:03 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: darn! I can't click links in here 2007-08-22 21:06:09 [Join Room] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections 2007-08-22 21:06:09 [IP] Brenda Al: 12.218.244.151 2007-08-22 21:06:09 [Login] Brenda Al 2007-08-22 21:06:14 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: yes, you can, use control + v 2007-08-22 21:06:18 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: Hi Brenda! 2007-08-22 21:06:21 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: hello 2007-08-22 21:06:29 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: Hey bren... 2007-08-22 21:07:40 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: anything new Brenda? 2007-08-22 21:07:48 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: wont let me paste it back in..... 2007-08-22 21:08:04 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: did you try control + v? 2007-08-22 21:08:16 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: yep 2007-08-22 21:08:19 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: http://community.webshots.com/user/janainindiana 2007-08-22 21:08:23 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: works for me 2007-08-22 21:08:32 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: Jana when you use your RO water do you mix or do anything else to it. What is the Ph 2007-08-22 21:08:41 [Disconnect] Nik 'n' Indiana 2007-08-22 21:08:53 [Login] Nik 'n' Indiana 2007-08-22 21:08:53 [IP] Nik 'n' Indiana: 68.20.28.12 2007-08-22 21:08:54 [Join Room] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections 2007-08-22 21:08:57 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: Brenda, I don't use R/O water for the AV's 2007-08-22 21:09:01 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: WB Nik 2007-08-22 21:09:05 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: thanks 2007-08-22 21:09:12 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: wb 2007-08-22 21:09:18 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: http://www.flickr.com/photos/studio157/ 2007-08-22 21:09:18 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: but if I did I would mix it with tap or well water, whatever you have 2007-08-22 21:09:29 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: ahhh.. there it worked... lol 2007-08-22 21:09:36 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: R/O water has no minerals at all, plants need minerals 2007-08-22 21:09:44 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: shucks, I thought you did 2007-08-22 21:09:44 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: great Nik! 2007-08-22 21:10:13 [Disconnect] Nik 'n' Indiana 2007-08-22 21:10:24 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: no, don't even use it for me breeding angels -- I make everything adjust to the awful water we have :P 2007-08-22 21:10:25 [Login] Nik 'n' Indiana 2007-08-22 21:10:25 [IP] Nik 'n' Indiana: 68.20.28.12 2007-08-22 21:10:26 [Join Room] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections 2007-08-22 21:10:35 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: having problems Nik? 2007-08-22 21:10:37 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: I hate VISTA 2007-08-22 21:10:44 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: ok, thanks 2007-08-22 21:10:58 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: poor Nik 2007-08-22 21:11:05 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: makes it so safe... YOU CANT DO ANYTHING!!!!!!! 2007-08-22 21:11:12 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: LOL 2007-08-22 21:11:25 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: my daughter likes her new laptop with vista 2007-08-22 21:11:50 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: give me winders again.... 2007-08-22 21:12:13 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: I hate computer changes too 2007-08-22 21:12:51 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: are you using R/O water now Brenda? 2007-08-22 21:13:25 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: no, thought about trying a few bottles,mixed with my water 2007-08-22 21:13:53 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: No help here... use tap water.... 2007-08-22 21:14:04 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: is your water high pH? 2007-08-22 21:14:14 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: very high 2007-08-22 21:14:33 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: ok, R/O typically is lower, about 5 or 6 I think 2007-08-22 21:14:42 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: trying to find the cause of my plants growing upwards 2007-08-22 21:14:52 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: 7.0 usually.... 6.8 - 7.1 2007-08-22 21:15:02 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: did you change the bulbs? 2007-08-22 21:15:08 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: yep 2007-08-22 21:15:16 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: nothing yet 2007-08-22 21:15:17 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: how long ago? 2007-08-22 21:15:31 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: 2 weeks ago 2007-08-22 21:15:46 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: well geeezzzz, they can't respond that quickly 2007-08-22 21:15:50 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: how far from the lights and how many? type of bulbs? how many hours? 2007-08-22 21:15:56 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: give them a few months & see if there's a difference 2007-08-22 21:16:03 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: well, why not lol 2007-08-22 21:16:20 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: LOL cause we want them to they refuse! 2007-08-22 21:16:29 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: ok, will do 2007-08-22 21:16:33 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: lol 2007-08-22 21:17:24 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: Nik, most shelves are 12 inches from the light...2 flo 2007-08-22 21:17:50 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: 18" x 48"? 2007-08-22 21:17:59 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: yes 2007-08-22 21:17:59 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: got a hungry momma dog here, BRB 2007-08-22 21:18:30 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: grow bulbs or cool and warm mix? 2007-08-22 21:18:42 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: just cool 2007-08-22 21:19:26 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: even in front of windows with blinds 2007-08-22 21:19:46 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: I run a 4 bulbs at about 10 - 12" mix warm and cool... about 10 hrs.... 2007-08-22 21:20:48 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: may have to try 4 bulbs 2007-08-22 21:21:33 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: it is an experiment.... 2007-08-22 21:21:58 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: I about ready to through the avs in the garabge and try cactus 2007-08-22 21:22:11 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: nooooooooo 2007-08-22 21:22:51 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: have 3 stands full and all are upward growing 2007-08-22 21:22:52 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: (thinks) or you could send them to me.... LMAO 2007-08-22 21:23:00 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: lol 2007-08-22 21:23:22 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: noone would want these avs 2007-08-22 21:23:36 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: just give them some time... better than being tight crowned.... 2007-08-22 21:24:09 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: even have a few trying to do that too...a first for me 2007-08-22 21:24:46 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: that is what is frustrating.... some tight, some tall... same growing conditions.... 2007-08-22 21:25:12 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: gets me so mad at times 2007-08-22 21:25:26 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: back 2007-08-22 21:25:32 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: wb 2007-08-22 21:25:40 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: wb 2007-08-22 21:25:57 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: Brenda, are all plants doing this, babies, teenagers & adults? 2007-08-22 21:26:05 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: yes 2007-08-22 21:26:56 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: grow good..pretty leaves,etc 2007-08-22 21:27:08 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: that narrows it down to the soil fertilizer, lights or water 2007-08-22 21:27:14 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: LOL 2007-08-22 21:27:17 [Login] Mary 2007-08-22 21:27:17 [IP] Mary: 64.161.56.173 2007-08-22 21:27:18 [Join Room] Mary -> VioletReflections 2007-08-22 21:27:19 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: not too narrow! 2007-08-22 21:27:23 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: Hi Mary! 2007-08-22 21:27:25 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: lol 2007-08-22 21:27:25 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: Hi ya 2007-08-22 21:27:31 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: hi Mary 2007-08-22 21:27:32 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: hmmmmm a nice choice to have Jana... lol 2007-08-22 21:27:38 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: hey Mary 2007-08-22 21:27:45 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: How is everyone? 2007-08-22 21:28:03 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: ok 2007-08-22 21:28:08 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: how are you? 2007-08-22 21:28:12 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: ok and at the moment I hate avs 2007-08-22 21:28:22 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: What happend? 2007-08-22 21:28:27 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: mites, 2007-08-22 21:28:30 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: ? 2007-08-22 21:28:38 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: no Brenda -- you love them or you wouldn't care if they reached up 2007-08-22 21:28:43 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: no, just don't grow right 2007-08-22 21:28:55 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: get another variety 2007-08-22 21:29:01 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: What is wrong? 2007-08-22 21:29:15 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: wish I knew lol 2007-08-22 21:29:58 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: all her plants are reaching upwards, babies, teenagers & adults 2007-08-22 21:30:31 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: how many hours a day are you running them? 2007-08-22 21:30:57 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: 10hours 2007-08-22 21:31:07 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: have you check Doctor Optimara to see what it says Brenda? 2007-08-22 21:31:13 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: checked* 2007-08-22 21:31:30 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: http://www.optimara.com/doctoroptimara.html 2007-08-22 21:31:38 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: yes...can't seem to find my excat problem 2007-08-22 21:32:08 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: do you have flat rate long distance? 2007-08-22 21:32:29 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: if My selves weren't the right distanceyou'd think that was the problem 2007-08-22 21:32:59 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: I use cell for that, why 2007-08-22 21:33:31 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: then call Pat Hancock, see what she thinks it is. She's really good at growing AV"s & always helpful to other growers 2007-08-22 21:34:03 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: (from orchids).... two cool whites dont give the right spectrum balance.... usually run cool and warm... more lumens and better balance.... 2007-08-22 21:34:08 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: Oh that would be great and fun 2007-08-22 21:34:32 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: that's true for AV's too Nik, usually 2007-08-22 21:34:44 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: her phone # is on her catalog 2007-08-22 21:34:51 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: yes 2007-08-22 21:35:14 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: will give the new lights a few more weeks, first 2007-08-22 21:35:27 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: http://www.buckeyeviolets.com/ 2007-08-22 21:35:42 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: ok 2007-08-22 21:35:47 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: got it 2007-08-22 21:36:12 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: how are your AV's doing Mary? 2007-08-22 21:36:33 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: new growth looking better yet? 2007-08-22 21:36:39 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: Mine are doing well. I still have some quarantined and I think they are just trying to recover 2007-08-22 21:36:49 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: I am transplanting and separating. 2007-08-22 21:36:56 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: In fact last night I started to run out of room 2007-08-22 21:37:02 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: LOL 2007-08-22 21:37:18 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: Our bird mart is in a few weeks and I want to get the noids up and blooming so I can sell them and focus on the named ones 2007-08-22 21:37:29 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: good idea 2007-08-22 21:37:33 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: I had a gal from the violet society call tonight about the up coming convention 2007-08-22 21:37:35 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: Got a question for the gang.... any one familiar with "Koellikeria erinoides" ? 2007-08-22 21:37:48 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: no 2007-08-22 21:37:53 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: is it a bug? 2007-08-22 21:38:11 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: No, it is Genseriad.... 2007-08-22 21:38:12 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: the 2008 AVSA convention or your state conv? 2007-08-22 21:38:22 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: our state convention 2007-08-22 21:38:32 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: I didn't know we had one, but she said they have one every 2 years 2007-08-22 21:38:35 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: aahh, learn anything? 2007-08-22 21:38:35 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: next to no info on the net..... 2007-08-22 21:38:41 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: do you grow it nik 2007-08-22 21:38:42 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: Next one will be in Southern Ca 2007-08-22 21:39:03 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: I am attempting to... just got one as a gift on friday.... 2007-08-22 21:39:09 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: LOL 2007-08-22 21:39:09 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: as big as CA is, you'd think they'd have one every year 2007-08-22 21:39:17 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: I was surprised. 2007-08-22 21:39:29 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: what's it look like Nik? 2007-08-22 21:40:15 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: The closest club to me is 2 hours away. She said if I join the northern or southern group I could be a member at large and if I wanted to enter a plant I could 2007-08-22 21:40:30 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: that would be fun! 2007-08-22 21:40:47 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: I put out feelers the other day on zzstar which is a free advertising web site asking if anyone wanted to join a av club. 2007-08-22 21:40:51 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: We'll see 2007-08-22 21:40:57 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: Beautiful.... kind of a trailer, has 2 long bloom spikes that have the tiniest beautiful flowers on them.... leaves are reddish with silver spots... 2007-08-22 21:41:21 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: It would be nice if someone would want to that knows more than me, but I think it would be fun 2007-08-22 21:41:23 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: can you post a photo for us to see Nik? Maybe on the forum? 2007-08-22 21:41:33 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: Only 5 noids at our fair this year, so thought it would be neat tofind peopel 2007-08-22 21:41:37 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: Will try and do that.... 2007-08-22 21:41:42 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: ;) 2007-08-22 21:41:47 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: can't wait to see it! 2007-08-22 21:41:55 [Message] Nik 'n' Indiana -> VioletReflections: OK gang... gotta scoot.... happy growing... nik out..... 2007-08-22 21:41:57 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: could you get info from the person youreceived it from 2007-08-22 21:42:01 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: g'nite Nik! 2007-08-22 21:42:03 [Disconnect] Nik 'n' Indiana 2007-08-22 21:42:08 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: nite Nik 2007-08-22 21:43:46 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: hope you do fine other AV growers Mary! 2007-08-22 21:43:50 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: find* 2007-08-22 21:44:19 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: Brenda were you talking to me? 2007-08-22 21:44:37 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: not really 2007-08-22 21:44:43 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: I don't think I'll have trouble finding people who are interested, but let's hope a knowledgable one inthe mix 2007-08-22 21:44:59 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: Oh, ok, you wre asking about reciving info from someone and didn't know if you were talking to me 2007-08-22 21:45:03 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: oh, no that was for Nik, sorry about that 2007-08-22 21:45:06 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: maybe get Millie to come & do a grow to show workshop? 2007-08-22 21:45:18 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: that is ok, just didn't want to ignore you if that be the case 2007-08-22 21:45:29 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: thanks 2007-08-22 21:47:16 [Message] Brenda Al -> VioletReflections: calling it a nite ladies 2007-08-22 21:47:20 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: bye 2007-08-22 21:47:26 [Logout] Brenda Al 2007-08-22 21:47:26 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: g'nite Brenda! 2007-08-22 21:47:39 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: I need to cleasn up the kitchen 2007-08-22 21:47:45 [Message] Jana in Indiana -> VioletReflections: g'nite Mary! 2007-08-22 21:48:24 [Message] Mary -> VioletReflections: nite Jana 2007-08-22 21:48:31 [Disconnect] Jana in Indiana 2007-08-22 21:48:34 [Disconnect] Mary 2007-08-22 22:11:50 [Join Room] Jake -> VioletReflections 2007-08-22 22:11:50 [IP] Jake: 67.65.238.16 2007-08-22 22:11:50 [Login] Jake 2007-08-22 22:12:43 [Logout] Jake