08/9/05 19:51:33 Tony_IL Logs in [207.43.75.34] 08/9/05 19:51:59 Tony_IL Logs Out 08/9/05 19:57:30 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.158.208.114] 08/9/05 19:58:43 del_SK_can Logs in [70.64.104.142] 08/9/05 19:58:53 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi De l! 08/9/05 19:59:30 Tony_IL Logs in [207.43.75.34] 08/9/05 19:59:34 del_SK_can: Hi Jana had hard time to get in tonight 08/9/05 19:59:36 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tony! 08/9/05 19:59:42 del_SK_can: Hi Tony 08/9/05 19:59:43 Tony_IL: hi Jana and Del 08/9/05 20:00:31 Tony_IL: John got a call from the union hall, starts tomorrow !!! 08/9/05 20:00:41 del_SK_can: jana is it worthwhile maybe for us to talk tonight on effects of heat on violets 08/9/05 20:01:02 Jana_in_Indiana: sure De l! 08/9/05 20:01:13 Okie Logs in [68.12.41.9] 08/9/05 20:01:19 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Okie! 08/9/05 20:01:28 del_SK_can: seemed there was quite a few messages on it the last few days 08/9/05 20:01:36 Okie: Gosh Jana you always amaze me how fast you say hi, LOL 08/9/05 20:01:40 Okie: He all 08/9/05 20:01:40 del_SK_can: Hi Okie 08/9/05 20:01:44 Tony_IL: Hi Carlene. Got plenty of the heat here today 08/9/05 20:01:44 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.138.20] 08/9/05 20:01:47 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL 08/9/05 20:01:51 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Clare! 08/9/05 20:01:53 Clare_KS: Hellody 08/9/05 20:01:57 Tony_IL: hi Clare 08/9/05 20:02:10 del_SK_can: finally cooled off here Tony real pleasant 08/9/05 20:02:20 del_SK_can: Hi Claire 08/9/05 20:02:20 Clare_KS: I may disappear, have been having cable problems since a truck knocked into the wire up the street. 08/9/05 20:02:30 Okie: :( 08/9/05 20:02:33 Tony_IL: 94 for a high here 08/9/05 20:02:53 del_SK_can: down to 54 for today here 08/9/05 20:02:59 Okie: What is the subject tonight? 08/9/05 20:03:14 del_SK_can: affects of heat on violets 08/9/05 20:03:25 Okie: That will work :) 08/9/05 20:03:59 Okie: I know the effects on me are horrible :P 08/9/05 20:04:03 Tony_IL: is that effects or affects? Always got them mixed up LOL 08/9/05 20:04:17 del_SK_can: we will wait a few moments for others to get here then start 08/9/05 20:04:21 Clare_KS: effects 08/9/05 20:04:23 Okie: I think effects????? 08/9/05 20:04:37 del_SK_can: which ever you want tony LOL 08/9/05 20:04:50 Tony_IL: both LOL 08/9/05 20:04:55 Brenda_Al Logs in [12.217.40.181] 08/9/05 20:05:04 del_SK_can: just my spelling tony 08/9/05 20:05:05 Tony_IL: hi Brenda 08/9/05 20:05:10 del_SK_can: Hi Brenda 08/9/05 20:05:11 Brenda_Al: hey everyone 08/9/05 20:06:14 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Brenda! 08/9/05 20:06:15 del_SK_can: see heat is keeping people from coming LOL 08/9/05 20:06:20 Brenda_Al: all these pros and just one newbie...think I'll leave now lol 08/9/05 20:06:31 Tony_IL: Jana, guess I will stay @ home for a while. Storms the next 5 days off and on 08/9/05 20:06:32 Okie: Hey Brenda I'm a newbie too 08/9/05 20:06:54 Brenda_Al: whoops 08/9/05 20:06:58 del_SK_can: we all learn something new on here 08/9/05 20:07:36 Tony_IL: Jana, also the union hall called and he will start tomorrow. LOL 08/9/05 20:07:38 Rachel Logs in [216.26.201.178] 08/9/05 20:07:48 del_SK_can: Hi Rachel 08/9/05 20:07:48 Rachel: Hello everyone 08/9/05 20:07:49 Tony_IL: hi Rachel 08/9/05 20:07:56 Brenda_Al: hello 08/9/05 20:08:16 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Rachel! 08/9/05 20:08:22 del_SK_can: 2 minutes to blast off 08/9/05 20:08:22 Okie: when are we past being newbies? Is there a date? 08/9/05 20:08:41 Brenda_Al: lol never 08/9/05 20:08:46 del_SK_can: no date on it at all 08/9/05 20:08:49 Okie: :) 08/9/05 20:08:53 Tony_IL: Yes 12/25/05 08/9/05 20:08:54 Jana_in_Indiana: same weather here too Tony! 08/9/05 20:09:08 Okie: :p Tony 08/9/05 20:09:20 Jana_in_Indiana: we're all newbies in one respect or another! 08/9/05 20:09:23 Jana_in_Indiana: ;) 08/9/05 20:09:28 Rachel: Newbie is a state of mind other wise three months for the STJ program 08/9/05 20:09:34 del_SK_can: just one JanaLOL 08/9/05 20:09:49 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL 08/9/05 20:10:12 Tina Logs in [67.176.91.232] 08/9/05 20:10:15 del_SK_can: ok any questions on heat on violets ?????? 08/9/05 20:10:20 Jana_in_Indiana: it's good to see you here Rachel! 08/9/05 20:10:20 Tony_IL: hi Tina 08/9/05 20:10:23 del_SK_can: Hi Tina 08/9/05 20:10:25 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tina! 08/9/05 20:10:34 Brenda_Al: hey 08/9/05 20:10:34 Tina: Hello Everyone 08/9/05 20:10:42 Tony_IL: all the big guns are here tonite 08/9/05 20:10:51 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL 08/9/05 20:11:04 Jana_in_Indiana: & we love it! 08/9/05 20:11:07 del_SK_can: speak then Tony LOL 08/9/05 20:11:14 Okie: that 08/9/05 20:11:21 Tina: oh well tell us Del as my AC just went out while we were on vacation and not sure when it will be up and running 08/9/05 20:11:28 Okie: sorry bout that *) 08/9/05 20:11:44 Tony_IL: I'm being quiet so the masters centalk 08/9/05 20:11:49 del_SK_can: ok what do you do to help your violets live through all this heat ???? 08/9/05 20:12:07 del_SK_can: my excuss tony 08/9/05 20:12:15 Jana_in_Indiana: oh no! That would kill me. How long till you get it fixed Tina? 08/9/05 20:12:17 Tina: well thank goodness mine are in the basement and it is cooler down there 08/9/05 20:12:32 Jana_in_Indiana: ok 08/9/05 20:12:39 Tina: hopefully we can have someone look at it tomorrow. We just got back this am 08/9/05 20:12:42 Tony_IL: lots of rain water 08/9/05 20:13:10 del_SK_can: you could have the lights on say for 4 hours in the morning then off for the heat of the day and back on again at night 08/9/05 20:13:25 del_SK_can: same for me tina 08/9/05 20:13:34 Clare_KS Disconnects 08/9/05 20:13:42 Tina: oops we lost clare 08/9/05 20:13:48 del_SK_can: mat watering is a good help when its really hot 08/9/05 20:13:48 Brenda_Al: that don't get the days and nights mixed up 08/9/05 20:14:01 Jana_in_Indiana: how does mat watering help? 08/9/05 20:14:12 Rachel Logs Out 08/9/05 20:14:14 Okie: I have been having mine on for 4 hours in the morning and off then 4 at night, but all my violets are in windows so I am worried they might be gettin too much light 08/9/05 20:14:42 Rachel Logs in [216.26.201.178] 08/9/05 20:14:47 Okie: WB Rachel 08/9/05 20:14:49 Jana_in_Indiana: WB Rachel! 08/9/05 20:14:49 Tony_IL: w/b 08/9/05 20:15:04 del_SK_can: if you use wicking the wick between the water container and the pot can dry out with mat watering you allways have a supply of water for plants 08/9/05 20:15:24 Tony_IL: just have mine on from 7AM -5 PM 08/9/05 20:15:45 Okie: But Del what about if they are all in isolation, you can't use mats 08/9/05 20:15:52 del_SK_can: an east window is a good place to have your violets good light and not long time of hot sun 08/9/05 20:16:11 Brenda_Al: it is still hot on up in October here, how will this affect the avs 08/9/05 20:16:17 del_SK_can: why not Okie I do 08/9/05 20:16:37 Dogmom Logs in [12.208.121.22] 08/9/05 20:16:43 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi DM 08/9/05 20:16:46 del_SK_can: also make sure you got a good size fan going 08/9/05 20:16:47 Okie: really, are they domed? 08/9/05 20:16:47 Brenda_Al: hi 08/9/05 20:16:47 Tony_IL: hi Cheryl 08/9/05 20:16:51 Dogmom: Hi all 08/9/05 20:16:54 Okie: Hey Cheryl 08/9/05 20:16:56 del_SK_can: Hi Cheryl 08/9/05 20:17:07 del_SK_can: yes Okie 08/9/05 20:17:36 goj62 Logs in [172.155.117.86] 08/9/05 20:17:40 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Judi! 08/9/05 20:17:44 del_SK_can: another good thing is before the lights come on to spray luke warm water on the leaves 08/9/05 20:17:46 Brenda_Al: hi Judi 08/9/05 20:17:53 Dogmom: Hi Judi! 08/9/05 20:17:55 del_SK_can: Hi Judi 08/9/05 20:18:03 Dogmom: Oh this heat is terrible this year 08/9/05 20:18:15 Dogmom: Even with A/C 08/9/05 20:18:15 goj62: HI EVERYONE 08/9/05 20:18:45 del_SK_can: for me my plants are all in the basement and there is nearly 10 degrees different from up stairs 08/9/05 20:19:05 ray4359 Logs in [65.7.83.10] 08/9/05 20:19:09 Dogmom: I would give anything for a basement... for the violets and for tornado season 08/9/05 20:19:11 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Ray! 08/9/05 20:19:12 Okie: hi Ray 08/9/05 20:19:16 Jana_in_Indiana: you finally made it! 08/9/05 20:19:17 ray4359: hello 08/9/05 20:19:22 ray4359: yea 08/9/05 20:19:34 ray4359: hi all 08/9/05 20:19:34 Okie: me 2 Cheryl 08/9/05 20:19:35 Tony_IL: another rooster here 08/9/05 20:19:38 del_SK_can: if in theplant room you got a window that opens an exhaust fan in the window really helps 08/9/05 20:19:44 Jana_in_Indiana: my A/C has it so cool in here, I just turned it doown, LOL 08/9/05 20:20:28 Dogmom: You're lucky Jana... very few trees in our subdivision yet... we just bake and the A/C has a hard time keeping up on days like today 08/9/05 20:21:15 Brenda_Al: it is 73 degrees in the house and plant stand is 80. is that too hot 08/9/05 20:21:15 del_SK_can: if and when Iuse the A/C I keep it set at 74 F the plants seem to like that temp 08/9/05 20:21:37 Dogmom: Brenda - to me that's about borderline. 08/9/05 20:21:55 Dogmom: Once mine get to 80 I turn off the lights 08/9/05 20:22:00 Jana_in_Indiana: if 80 is the hottest it gets on the stand, that should be OK 08/9/05 20:22:22 Brenda_Al: that is the hottest 08/9/05 20:22:26 Jana_in_Indiana: ok 08/9/05 20:22:35 del_SK_can: watch your humidity when its real hot could develop mildew very easy 08/9/05 20:22:58 Dogmom: Yes... fans and air circulation are really important this time of year 08/9/05 20:23:02 Tina: yes it can become a problen 08/9/05 20:23:29 Brenda_Al: lots of humidity in Alabama, right Judi 08/9/05 20:23:45 Dogmom: Make sure not to crowd your plants on the stand 08/9/05 20:24:00 del_SK_can: brb 08/9/05 20:24:12 Jana_in_Indiana: my A/C removes the humidity, goes into the drain 08/9/05 20:24:31 goj62: yea boy too much keep fans on 24 hrs a day altho ac feels like ice here lately 08/9/05 20:24:38 Dogmom: Jana - I have the opposite problem... have to humidify when I'm running the A/C 08/9/05 20:25:03 ray4359: humity is high in tenn also 08/9/05 20:25:15 Jana_in_Indiana: my elevated mats keep it plenty humid for the AV's 08/9/05 20:25:46 Dogmom: Well, Jana, I'm thinking you need to come up and do a consultation LOL! 08/9/05 20:25:48 goj62: about the same as Al except in higher mt. part of Tenn, 08/9/05 20:26:04 ray4359: middle tenn 08/9/05 20:26:09 Jana_in_Indiana: lol 08/9/05 20:26:23 ray4359: lynchburg 08/9/05 20:26:26 Jana_in_Indiana: I was up there last week 08/9/05 20:26:36 Dogmom: Should've called 08/9/05 20:26:57 del_SK_can: ok back sorry phone cll 08/9/05 20:26:58 Jana_in_Indiana: will try to remember next time 08/9/05 20:27:00 Brenda_Al: yall need to get us a pro for the deep souths problems lol 08/9/05 20:27:00 goj62: how far from Nasheville ? 08/9/05 20:27:08 del_SK_can: phone callLOL 08/9/05 20:27:17 ray4359: about 75 miles south 08/9/05 20:27:53 goj62: hey you,re almost in Al 08/9/05 20:27:56 del_SK_can: does anyone run humidifier and A/C together ????? 08/9/05 20:28:15 ray4359: yea 45min drive to huntsville 08/9/05 20:28:17 Dogmom: Yes, Del, I do. 08/9/05 20:28:20 Tony_IL: not I 08/9/05 20:28:27 Dogmom: I have a small humidifier at each stand 08/9/05 20:28:33 becky_co Logs in [209.142.190.14] 08/9/05 20:28:36 del_SK_can: how does it work for you Cheryl???? 08/9/05 20:28:39 becky_co: Hi all 08/9/05 20:28:42 Dogmom: They're "cool mist" and in my mind supplement the A/C 08/9/05 20:28:42 del_SK_can: Hi Becky 08/9/05 20:28:44 Tony_IL: hi Becky 08/9/05 20:28:47 Tina: hello becky 08/9/05 20:28:59 Dogmom: It's the only way I can survive with the lights on 08/9/05 20:29:02 Dogmom: this time of year 08/9/05 20:29:18 del_SK_can: I was wondering as I have the humidifier but never thought to run both 08/9/05 20:29:32 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Becky! 08/9/05 20:29:39 Dogmom: 'Lo, Becky! 08/9/05 20:29:41 ray4359: how many lights do u folks have 08/9/05 20:29:54 becky_co: many moons since I made it to chat :) 08/9/05 20:30:05 del_SK_can: hey see everyone I even learnt something good on this chat LOL 08/9/05 20:30:05 Brenda_Al: what should we look for as to a heat related problem 08/9/05 20:30:09 Dogmom: Each of my shelves has 1 cool white & 1 growlight, about 18" above the plants, Ray 08/9/05 20:30:21 Dogmom: Brenda - tight centers! 08/9/05 20:30:30 goj62: no lights as of yet just east windows and north 08/9/05 20:30:33 Dogmom: leaves curling under 08/9/05 20:30:45 ray4359: i was given new shelves to day new 1s 08/9/05 20:30:48 Jana_in_Indiana: too many lights, too many stands, still not enough room for everything Ray, LOL 08/9/05 20:30:58 del_SK_can: right Jana 08/9/05 20:31:18 Jana_in_Indiana: wonderful Ray! 08/9/05 20:31:33 becky_co: yeah Ray 08/9/05 20:31:35 ray4359: now i gotta redo my stand 08/9/05 20:31:42 Jana_in_Indiana: curling leaves can be mites too! 08/9/05 20:31:46 becky_co: LOL, but with a new stand, it's fun 08/9/05 20:31:56 Dogmom: Very true, Jana 08/9/05 20:32:21 del_SK_can: anything else on heat effects 08/9/05 20:32:34 ray4359: my wife just shook he head 08/9/05 20:32:38 Dogmom: Del - I notice less blooming when it's hot 08/9/05 20:32:40 Jana_in_Indiana: it's good to see you in chat again Becky! & this time we don't have to keep the log! :D 08/9/05 20:32:48 Dogmom: and sometimes changes in color 08/9/05 20:33:07 Brenda_Al: smaller blooms???? 08/9/05 20:33:23 del_SK_can: do not see less blooming but do see lighter coloring Cheryl 08/9/05 20:33:27 Dogmom: and of course the hotter it is, the more I need to water, and the less I'm inclined to fertilize 08/9/05 20:33:42 becky_co: I've noticed smaller blooms and in some cases a lighter shade of color 08/9/05 20:33:43 Jana_in_Indiana: our spouses constantly shake their heads Ray, ;) 08/9/05 20:33:49 del_SK_can: when real hot I do not fertilize 08/9/05 20:33:58 Dogmom: I had tight centers, leaves curling down... stopped watering for a month, cut the lights back by about 1/3, and things are improving again 08/9/05 20:34:16 ray4359: she like them but has no luck 08/9/05 20:34:41 del_SK_can: In summer months when I do fert it is only once every 4th watering 08/9/05 20:34:47 Dogmom: My spouse is terrific about the violets 08/9/05 20:35:22 Dogmom: Fills the humidifiers, helps with watering, and anything else I need a hand with. 08/9/05 20:35:24 del_SK_can: us when have to Cheryl to keep on the good side of you women ROTFLOL 08/9/05 20:35:35 ray4359: how long does it take 1 to recover from tight crowns 08/9/05 20:35:40 Dogmom: But he's a chemical engineer... he wants us to start hybridizing... I call him the mad scientist 08/9/05 20:35:46 Okie: Company coming, have a good night all :) 08/9/05 20:35:53 Okie Logs Out 08/9/05 20:35:56 del_SK_can: night Okie 08/9/05 20:36:21 Dogmom: Ray - it's gonna depend on the cause. In my case (no pests), I started seeing improvement in a couple weeks. 08/9/05 20:36:31 Dogmom: For me it was a "culture thing" 08/9/05 20:36:55 ray4359: cause my lights were 2 close about 8in from plants 08/9/05 20:37:03 Jana_in_Indiana: you'd better pary it's a culture thing! ;) 08/9/05 20:37:09 Jana_in_Indiana: pray* 08/9/05 20:37:49 Dogmom: Well, Jana, I'm *assuming* that, as I've examined the plants closely, have applied no pesticides/miticides, but just made culture changes and am seeing improvement. 08/9/05 20:37:50 del_SK_can: Rachel are the forest fires anywhere near you 08/9/05 20:38:02 Dogmom: But heck, I pray for my violets everyday. LOL! 08/9/05 20:38:35 Jana_in_Indiana: Del, you have forest fires? 08/9/05 20:39:03 del_SK_can: way up north Jana but saw that Rachel has some 08/9/05 20:39:09 Dogmom: Nite all... 08/9/05 20:39:13 Dogmom Logs Out 08/9/05 20:39:57 Jana_in_Indiana: oh no! Rachel has fires nearby? 08/9/05 20:40:25 del_SK_can: it was on T V about forest fires in rachel country LOL 08/9/05 20:40:25 Rachel: Sorry.. The fire is about 3 hours from us... 08/9/05 20:40:50 del_SK_can: hope not heading your way rachel 08/9/05 20:41:00 becky_co: hopefully staying that far away! 08/9/05 20:41:11 Rachel: Sounded like it is. 08/9/05 20:41:12 Jana_in_Indiana: which way is it headed Rachel? 08/9/05 20:41:46 Rachel: I understood it was coming this way 08/9/05 20:41:52 Jana_in_Indiana: oh no! 08/9/05 20:42:05 del_SK_can: thanks rachel for the info on Ropb,s Lucky Penny being a Chimeras 08/9/05 20:42:10 Jana_in_Indiana: are you having drought? 08/9/05 20:42:29 Rachel: The log house my father build and where I grew up is about 1 1/2 hours from us 08/9/05 20:43:20 Rachel: My penny is soon going to be broke .... 08/9/05 20:43:31 del_SK_can: last year fires were bad here this summer we are getting to much water LOL 08/9/05 20:43:44 ray4359: gotta work tommarrow gotta go to bed c u all later 08/9/05 20:43:53 Rachel: Cu 08/9/05 20:43:59 ray4359 Logs Out 08/9/05 20:43:59 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Ray! 08/9/05 20:44:01 becky_co: nigth ray 08/9/05 20:44:11 becky_co: everybody is poofing tonight 08/9/05 20:44:18 del_SK_can: the leaves on Lucky penny are about 2 times the size they were when you sent it rachel now 08/9/05 20:44:35 becky_co: That's a pretty one Del 08/9/05 20:44:55 del_SK_can: yes can hardly wait till it blooms Becky 08/9/05 20:45:00 Rachel: going a lot better than mine ... I do like the ones I started by his leaf 08/9/05 20:45:18 goj62: not me lol got to figure out new cell phone before i call China or somewhere 08/9/05 20:45:20 Jana_in_Indiana: it one of those foliage chimeras! 08/9/05 20:45:29 del_SK_can: you keeping them rachel 08/9/05 20:46:04 Rachel: Did you want one Del? 08/9/05 20:46:08 del_SK_can: should be able to do a bloom stalk on it Rachel 08/9/05 20:46:09 Jana_in_Indiana: Rob's Lucky Penny (8611) 05/31/1997 (R. Robinson) Semidouble white pansy/dark blue eye, variable thin blue edge. Variegated light-medium green and white, pointed, glossy; sucker propagation. Miniature 08/9/05 20:46:27 becky_co: It says bloomstalk propagation... so does that mean that you only get the variegation in the leaves vs. stripes in the flowers? 08/9/05 20:46:40 goj62: got it just potted it yesterday 08/9/05 20:46:42 becky_co: oops sucker propagation 08/9/05 20:46:53 del_SK_can: should get both Becky 08/9/05 20:47:14 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Becky, it's not a chimera blossom, it's chimera leaves, variegation 08/9/05 20:47:21 Brenda_Al: I thought you had ordered that one Judi 08/9/05 20:47:33 becky_co: but the description doesn't sound chimera - no stripes on the flowers 08/9/05 20:47:45 Tony_IL: don't have much luck with mini's 08/9/05 20:48:32 del_SK_can: they can give you lots of headaches Tony but relly good once you master growing them 08/9/05 20:48:35 goj62: why toni? what,s the differants except size 08/9/05 20:48:36 Jana_in_Indiana: me neither Ton y! 08/9/05 20:48:55 Brenda_Al: me either Tony. have kept a few noids a live for awhile so for 08/9/05 20:49:13 Jana_in_Indiana: they're too tiny for my shaking hands, I kill them, break them 08/9/05 20:49:34 Brenda_Al: you got that right Jana lol 08/9/05 20:49:36 del_SK_can: have hubby plant them JanaLOL 08/9/05 20:49:38 Tony_IL: they just donm't prosper, like the semi's do 08/9/05 20:50:07 becky_co: I seem to have better luck with semi's too... 08/9/05 20:50:07 goj62: my problem is I like than all all sizes so far no trailers tho 08/9/05 20:50:23 tee7202_IL Logs in [67.184.133.223] 08/9/05 20:50:30 becky_co: LOL goj 08/9/05 20:50:31 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tonya 08/9/05 20:50:32 Tony_IL: hi Tonya 08/9/05 20:50:34 becky_co: HI 08/9/05 20:50:39 Tina: I am heading out folks feet are bugging me 08/9/05 20:50:44 tee7202_IL: Hello did I miss the whole chat 08/9/05 20:50:47 Brenda_Al: love the picturesd of trailers, got to get one 08/9/05 20:50:57 del_SK_can: night Tina 08/9/05 20:50:58 Tony_IL: nite Tina 08/9/05 20:51:01 becky_co: I have a couple in the mommy stage... 08/9/05 20:51:07 becky_co: nite tina 08/9/05 20:51:11 Tina: Have a great night 08/9/05 20:51:11 Jana_in_Indiana: hubby kills every plant he touches except the grass! LOL 08/9/05 20:51:17 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Tina! 08/9/05 20:51:33 becky_co: uh oh Jana, don't let him pot up the babies then LOL 08/9/05 20:51:46 del_SK_can: If you can get it Brenda Rob, Sticky wicket is one of the easier trailers to grow 08/9/05 20:51:48 Rachel: Nite tina 08/9/05 20:51:58 Tony_IL: Del was talking about the stress from heat 08/9/05 20:52:08 Tina Logs Out 08/9/05 20:52:08 Brenda_Al: thanks...taking notes 08/9/05 20:52:32 Carolyn_in_CA Logs in [172.192.15.160] 08/9/05 20:52:33 becky_co: I don't have that one... 08/9/05 20:52:37 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Carolyn 08/9/05 20:52:41 del_SK_can: HuMty do a trailer Chimeras is another easy grower 08/9/05 20:52:46 Carolyn_in_CA: HI, guys 08/9/05 20:52:56 Tony_IL: hi Carolyn 08/9/05 20:52:56 del_SK_can: Hi Carolyn 08/9/05 20:53:37 Rachel: Time to put my poodles to bed 08/9/05 20:53:42 Brenda_Al: thanks again Del 08/9/05 20:53:43 Rachel: night all 08/9/05 20:53:49 Rachel Logs Out 08/9/05 20:53:49 Tony_IL: nite Rachel 08/9/05 20:53:50 Brenda_Al: nite 08/9/05 20:53:55 del_SK_can: night Rachel thanks for coming tonight 08/9/05 20:54:08 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Rachel! 08/9/05 20:54:11 Jana_in_Indiana: oops! 08/9/05 20:54:23 Tony_IL: another poof 08/9/05 20:54:38 becky_co: *) 08/9/05 20:54:40 del_SK_can: leave so fast you never get a chance to say goodnight LOL 08/9/05 20:55:11 Jana_in_Indiana: De l, Humpty Doo isn't a chimera, unless yours sported 08/9/05 20:55:14 Jana_in_Indiana: Rob's Humpty Doo (8456) 05/23/1996 (R. Robinson) Semidouble white sticktite pansy/wide bright blue edge. Medium green, pointed, glossy. Semiminiature trailer 08/9/05 20:55:18 del_SK_can: Tony does your vintage Wine have red in the leaves ???? 08/9/05 20:55:49 del_SK_can: oh but it allways has been Jana 08/9/05 20:56:09 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, it's not listed as one in FC2, LOL 08/9/05 20:56:11 Tony_IL: not sure Del 08/9/05 20:56:23 Brenda_Al: how long does it take a trailer to trail...did I put that right 08/9/05 20:56:37 del_SK_can: on Rob,s site he says it is a chimeras Jana 08/9/05 20:57:01 Jana_in_Indiana: that's strange, cause all the descriptions come from the hybridizer 08/9/05 20:57:25 Jana_in_Indiana: oh De l! I mailed you something 08/9/05 20:57:30 del_SK_can: never had a trailer that did trail I think only the standard trailers do but I could be wrong there 08/9/05 20:57:57 del_SK_can: what what what Jana whoopy Jana 08/9/05 20:58:16 Jana_in_Indiana: Brenda, even my babies of Sweet Amy Sue are branching out & beginning to trail 08/9/05 20:58:16 Brenda_Al: do yours hang over the pot 08/9/05 20:58:21 Shellie_in_CA Logs in [172.196.85.21] 08/9/05 20:58:29 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL. don't get too excited De l! 08/9/05 20:58:40 del_SK_can: all mine are semi and do not trail 08/9/05 20:58:41 Tony_IL: hi Shellie 08/9/05 20:58:42 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Shellie, oops! I owe you a phone call! 08/9/05 20:58:45 becky_co: Rob's site does say it is Rob's Humpty Doo. This can be a spectacular plant. Striking sdbl. white with blue side stripes. Medium green. somewhat glossy foliage. Very heavy bloomer. Distinctive and very striking. Semimini chimera #8456 08/9/05 20:59:16 Carolyn_in_CA: Hi, Shellie 08/9/05 20:59:21 Jana_in_Indiana: does it say chimera Becky? 08/9/05 20:59:28 Shellie_in_CA: Hi Everyone 08/9/05 20:59:31 Jana_in_Indiana: & thanks for checking 08/9/05 20:59:34 Brenda_Al: hi 08/9/05 20:59:38 del_SK_can: hi Shellie 08/9/05 20:59:40 becky_co: yep, the description is above... 08/9/05 21:00:03 Jana_in_Indiana: ok 08/9/05 21:00:17 del_SK_can: I have had mine now for about 6 years Jana 08/9/05 21:00:25 becky_co: and his site also says 'Rob's Lucky Penny', a rare mini chimera - so it sounds like you are very lucky to have one.. 08/9/05 21:00:26 Brenda_Al: Had anyone grown a trailer in a hanging basket? 08/9/05 21:00:42 Jana_in_Indiana: think we should write & let AVSA know the description is wrong? 08/9/05 21:00:58 Brenda_Al: has not had 08/9/05 21:01:09 del_SK_can: yes Jana 08/9/05 21:01:13 Jana_in_Indiana: ok 08/9/05 21:01:21 becky_co: It says it at the end of the description. I would guess that Rob would change it?!? 08/9/05 21:02:09 Jana_in_Indiana: if it;s after the leaf description & says sucker propogation, it's because of the foliage,m not the blossom 08/9/05 21:02:35 Tony_IL: think the hybridizer puts in thedescription when they register the plant 08/9/05 21:02:49 Jana_in_Indiana: Joe told me 08/9/05 21:02:49 becky_co: It doesn't, it's even after the leaf description... 08/9/05 21:03:16 Jana_in_Indiana: right, means chimera foliage 08/9/05 21:03:46 Brenda_Al Logs Out 08/9/05 21:04:06 Jana_in_Indiana: search FC2, put sucker in the foliage box 08/9/05 21:04:13 becky_co: but it says stripe in the bloom description 08/9/05 21:04:29 del_SK_can: Humty Doo is one of the ones I am putting in the show this weekend here plus Vintage Wine and Little Chatter Box 08/9/05 21:04:49 Jana_in_Indiana: here's one that's no way a bloom chimera 08/9/05 21:04:51 Jana_in_Indiana: Rob's Lucky Ducky (9395) 10/15/2004 (R. Robinson) Semidouble dark rose-pink pansy. Variegated dark green, white and pink, pointed, serrated; sucker propagation. Semiminiature 08/9/05 21:04:54 Brenda_Al Logs in [12.217.40.181] 08/9/05 21:05:01 Jana_in_Indiana: WB Brenda 08/9/05 21:05:02 becky_co: I'm pulling from Rob's site... some of these descriptions are different than FC2. Kind of odd since the hybridizer gives them the description 08/9/05 21:05:15 Jana_in_Indiana: hope it does well for you De l! 08/9/05 21:05:21 Brenda_Al: sorry 08/9/05 21:05:25 becky_co: Good Luck!! I love Little Chatterbox 08/9/05 21:05:43 del_SK_can: figure all should Jana (or sure hope so)LOL 08/9/05 21:05:54 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL 08/9/05 21:06:15 becky_co: I entered a couple of av's at the local county fair... potted plant division 08/9/05 21:07:06 del_SK_can: good for you Becky 08/9/05 21:07:13 tee7202_IL: wow did you get a ribbon 08/9/05 21:07:18 Jana_in_Indiana: was it fun doing it? 08/9/05 21:07:35 Brenda_Al: did you enter some photo also 08/9/05 21:07:51 tee7202_IL: I am going to a county fair this weekend hope to see some AV 08/9/05 21:08:05 becky_co: I got a Reserve Grand Champion on my pink noid!!! and a red (second) place on O' Chico which developed leaf damage between entry and judging 08/9/05 21:08:17 Jana_in_Indiana: wonderful!!!!!!!!!! 08/9/05 21:08:17 del_SK_can: this year there is 2 shows here 08/9/05 21:08:39 tee7202_IL: hip hip horray 08/9/05 21:08:43 becky_co: I did Brenda... 4 photos, 2 blues and 2 reds 08/9/05 21:08:44 del_SK_can: great Becky 08/9/05 21:08:46 tee7202_IL: lol 08/9/05 21:08:50 Carolyn_in_CA: great 08/9/05 21:08:56 becky_co: yeah Del.. both av shows?? 08/9/05 21:09:03 Jana_in_Indiana: Becky, were any leaves missing when you brought them home? I've heard of that happening 08/9/05 21:09:28 del_SK_can: other flowering plants are in it to but there is a section for violets 08/9/05 21:09:43 Brenda_Al: your orchid pic would be beautiful crop and have an oil painting done of it 08/9/05 21:10:05 becky_co: I didn't bring them home... didn't want to chance it with my other av's with the agriculture exhibits, livestock around etc.... but a friend has them and I didn't see any missing 08/9/05 21:10:12 Jana_in_Indiana: Becky has many talents! 08/9/05 21:10:17 becky_co: thanks Brenda 08/9/05 21:10:29 Jana_in_Indiana: smart move Becky! 08/9/05 21:10:50 Brenda_Al: loved the bird pic 08/9/05 21:10:58 becky_co: That's how it was here. potted plants ... I did one in flowering and one in "other" so they wouldn't compete against each other... 08/9/05 21:11:17 tee7202_IL: Becy does your friend have them to isolate them 08/9/05 21:11:26 becky_co: My favorite pics were the "ferocious caterpillar" and the orchid 08/9/05 21:11:38 del_SK_can: I am thinking also to put 2 of my new crosses in the show 08/9/05 21:11:53 becky_co: She only has one other av and a couple of other plants... If she kills them or they die, I restock her LOL 08/9/05 21:11:54 Brenda_Al: it was so cute, even hubby like it 08/9/05 21:12:03 becky_co: That would be cool!! 08/9/05 21:13:05 becky_co: What are your new crosses? 08/9/05 21:14:23 becky_co: wackazoid kitty here that thinks she needs attention... looks like I gotta go 08/9/05 21:14:34 Tony_IL: later guys and gals 08/9/05 21:14:44 Tony_IL Logs Out 08/9/05 21:14:45 Carolyn_in_CA: Bye becky and tony 08/9/05 21:14:46 del_SK_can: 1 is a fantasy blue background pink lines and the other is a trailer double large off white double 08/9/05 21:15:02 Carolyn_in_CA: Sound pretty 08/9/05 21:15:06 becky_co: Del, those sound awesome!!! I love fantasy 08/9/05 21:15:27 Carolyn_in_CA: oops, I thought becky was leaving, sorry about that1 08/9/05 21:15:39 becky_co: night all... have a great week :? 08/9/05 21:15:50 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Becky 08/9/05 21:15:50 Carolyn_in_CA: Ok, now I say bye 08/9/05 21:15:53 becky_co: I am, but not a poofer LOL 08/9/05 21:16:03 Jana_in_Indiana: missed Tony! Was talking to daughter! 08/9/05 21:16:03 Brenda_Al: nite 08/9/05 21:16:10 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Carolyn 08/9/05 21:16:12 becky_co Logs Out 08/9/05 21:16:17 Carolyn_in_CA: What are you people feeding your violets? 08/9/05 21:16:19 del_SK_can: I still got 1 more generation to put them both though to make sure they keep their colors nigh Becky 08/9/05 21:16:25 tee7202_IL: Tony went poof 08/9/05 21:16:31 Jana_in_Indiana: anything they want Carolyn! LOL 08/9/05 21:16:31 del_SK_can: night Carolyn 08/9/05 21:16:42 tee7202_IL: lol 08/9/05 21:17:06 tee7202_IL: I just bought Mircle Gro AB food 08/9/05 21:17:11 goj62: i use peters violet food 08/9/05 21:17:16 Carolyn_in_CA: Anything covers a lot of possibilities 08/9/05 21:17:19 Jana_in_Indiana: I alternate, balanced, bloom booster, FE, whatever 08/9/05 21:17:27 tee7202_IL: I am going to buy Peters 08/9/05 21:17:37 Jana_in_Indiana: even tried Algoflash! 08/9/05 21:17:38 goj62: then the supertrive too 08/9/05 21:17:45 del_SK_can: using 15-30-15 fert and at the rate of 35 PPM 08/9/05 21:17:55 Jana_in_Indiana: always add 1 or 2 dropos of ST 08/9/05 21:18:18 Brenda_Al: what brand of bloom booster 08/9/05 21:18:31 tee7202_IL: what is 35PPM 08/9/05 21:18:35 Jana_in_Indiana: lemme go look 08/9/05 21:19:26 Jana_in_Indiana: Peters liquid, got it on clearance at Wally World, most garden stuff gets marked down now, best to stock up 08/9/05 21:19:47 Brenda_Al: thanks 08/9/05 21:19:49 Carolyn_in_CA: I just bought some Peters 12-36-14 which I assume is a bloom booster, so I wondered how people alternate it with a general AV formula for leaf and root growth, etc. 08/9/05 21:19:56 Jana_in_Indiana: it does contain urea too (2.7%) but since I have soil ingredients, it's not a problem 08/9/05 21:20:31 del_SK_can: you make a stock solution then you put 3 cups of solution to a gallon of water to give you 35 PPM bloom buster is 10-52-10 for me up here 08/9/05 21:20:44 Carolyn_in_CA: Uh, oh....soil ingredients ok for urea, other mixes not? 08/9/05 21:20:56 Jana_in_Indiana: I make up 12 gallons of water at a time (in 3 G containers) mix all the same, then next time switch to a different one, rotating the ferts. 08/9/05 21:21:00 goj62: my wally world doesn,t carry peters here had to get at Lowe,s 08/9/05 21:21:10 Carolyn_in_CA: What brand is the 10-52-10? 08/9/05 21:21:46 del_SK_can: look for plant Products fert in Wal mart no additives or fillers in the fert 08/9/05 21:21:59 Jana_in_Indiana: & add RootBlast into soil when potting up babies, Pat told me about this one, got it at Meijer 08/9/05 21:22:06 Brenda_Al: same here Judi 08/9/05 21:22:07 Carolyn_in_CA: Come again? What brand? 08/9/05 21:22:37 Carolyn_in_CA: I got Root Blaster and used it for tomatoes last year....all leaves and few tomatoes 08/9/05 21:22:41 Jana_in_Indiana: must be a canada thing, haven't been able to find Plant Products here 08/9/05 21:22:45 del_SK_can: plant smart from wal mart 08/9/05 21:22:49 goj62: and where do you get rootblast? tv ? 08/9/05 21:23:15 Jana_in_Indiana: this is named RootBlast, it's little pellets 2-1-2 08/9/05 21:23:24 Jana_in_Indiana: Meijer 08/9/05 21:23:43 Jana_in_Indiana: big dept store like Walmart, but a bit higher priced 08/9/05 21:23:43 del_SK_can: is Root Blast not a slow release fert it is here 08/9/05 21:23:44 Brenda_Al: whats a Meijer 08/9/05 21:23:56 Brenda_Al: got it 08/9/05 21:24:14 Jana_in_Indiana: yes De l! 08/9/05 21:24:25 Carolyn_in_CA: I got RB from QV C last year 08/9/05 21:24:28 del_SK_can: same then jana 08/9/05 21:24:45 Jana_in_Indiana: made in Canton Ohio 08/9/05 21:25:12 Jana_in_Indiana: www.rootblast.com 08/9/05 21:25:45 Jana_in_Indiana: 2.5 pound jar, brown little beads 08/9/05 21:25:51 Carolyn_in_CA: That's the one 08/9/05 21:26:24 Carolyn_in_CA: How much RB should we use for babies, and then when repotting standards? 08/9/05 21:27:16 Jana_in_Indiana: here's what Pat told me :one capful per tub of soil, tub is a hospital wash tub, cap is some empty bottle she had 08/9/05 21:27:18 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL 08/9/05 21:27:50 Jana_in_Indiana: not quite the precise instructions I was looking for! 08/9/05 21:28:28 Carolyn_in_CA: lol! You can figure something out Jana! 08/9/05 21:28:34 Jana_in_Indiana: so De l, can you give me more accurate amounts? 08/9/05 21:28:53 goj62: sounds like a biscuit recipe LOL 08/9/05 21:29:00 Jana_in_Indiana: yup! ;) 08/9/05 21:29:04 del_SK_can: I found a neat propagation box (Plastic) at home depot it is 15 inch long by 9-1/2 inches wide by 2 inches deep come with a plastic cove with 2 sets of controlable vents on the lid it cost$7.50 08/9/05 21:29:09 Carolyn_in_CA: Those hospital tubs are about the size of dishpans, aren't they? 08/9/05 21:29:32 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, is it heavy plastic -- green? 08/9/05 21:29:43 goj62: yea they are about that size 08/9/05 21:29:44 Jana_in_Indiana: no, lots smaller Carolyn 08/9/05 21:29:46 del_SK_can: sure is jana 08/9/05 21:29:54 Jana_in_Indiana: I have 5 of those! 08/9/05 21:30:05 del_SK_can: work great right 08/9/05 21:30:06 Jana_in_Indiana: love them for isolating a few AV's! 08/9/05 21:30:16 Jana_in_Indiana: & have pat's seedlings in one of them 08/9/05 21:30:29 del_SK_can: I am usinf mine for starting leaves/cuttings Jana 08/9/05 21:30:47 tee7202_IL: I was wondering how do you isolate a plant in a 4 inch pot 08/9/05 21:31:11 Jana_in_Indiana: I have 4 1810 seedling trays full of leaves, in the 72 cell ones 08/9/05 21:31:28 Carolyn_in_CA: I bought several 99 cent clear plastic boxes at Walmart last night. Lids lift up and they were about 2 and a half inches high and maybe 8 inches square and some 6 inches square. Can put small solo cups inside with room for mouse ears if they come! 08/9/05 21:31:44 del_SK_can: great Jana I am TRYING to cut down LOL 08/9/05 21:32:27 Jana_in_Indiana: I know! LOL I told anngela I was going to be in serious trouble about the time christmas gets here 08/9/05 21:33:07 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I almost forgot! 08/9/05 21:33:20 Carolyn_in_CA: Just leave out the Superthrive and Root Blaster, Jana 08/9/05 21:33:41 Jana_in_Indiana: I got really productive when putting down leaves this last weekend & took step by step photos of how I do it 08/9/05 21:33:51 Jana_in_Indiana: also took photos of making leaf wedges 08/9/05 21:34:02 Carolyn_in_CA: Looking forward to seeing these 08/9/05 21:34:06 Jana_in_Indiana: now if I can get the time to upload them to my photo album 08/9/05 21:34:07 del_SK_can: got company have to leave night all take care 08/9/05 21:34:13 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Del 08/9/05 21:34:15 Carolyn_in_CA: Buy del 08/9/05 21:34:19 Brenda_Al: nite 08/9/05 21:34:20 Carolyn_in_CA: bye del 08/9/05 21:34:27 del_SK_can Logs Out 08/9/05 21:34:56 Brenda_Al: Jana your photos should help 08/9/05 21:34:57 Jana_in_Indiana: this is my no fuss no muss easy wayof doing leaves, LOL! Call me lazy! 08/9/05 21:35:25 goj62: can,t wait to see that 08/9/05 21:35:27 Jana_in_Indiana: people kept asking if I had photos of it & I actually remembered to do it 08/9/05 21:35:29 Brenda_Al: no, call it just easy 08/9/05 21:35:36 Carolyn_in_CA: Tee, I don't know about the total isolation thing, but I did see some clear plastic boxes at Walmart that were around 12 inches on each side, had lids, and were around 12 inches tall. 08/9/05 21:36:04 Jana_in_Indiana: once I put them doowon, don't touch them again till they push the dome up & off, then repot -- do add water though to the reservoir 08/9/05 21:36:33 Carolyn_in_CA: Jana has all her plants from the convention in May still in isolation, and I think she said they are totally sealed. 08/9/05 21:36:37 tee7202_IL: Well I havent done leaves yet so I thought I would buy a few plants 08/9/05 21:36:41 Jana_in_Indiana: cake & bakery containers are great for isolating larger AV's, then tape the dome to the lid so it's air tight 08/9/05 21:36:50 Brenda_Al: tell us when you get the pic on line 08/9/05 21:36:51 Jana_in_Indiana: right Carolyn 08/9/05 21:36:57 Jana_in_Indiana: ok 08/9/05 21:37:04 Carolyn_in_CA: Jana, do you check them for moisture? 08/9/05 21:37:09 Jana_in_Indiana: nope 08/9/05 21:37:23 Jana_in_Indiana: just keep reservoir topped off every 2 weeks 08/9/05 21:37:41 Carolyn_in_CA: You must really have it down with the amount of water left after you soak on the newspapers. I'd be scared I'd rot everything 08/9/05 21:38:11 Carolyn_in_CA: when you say resevoir, what do you mean? 08/9/05 21:38:34 Jana_in_Indiana: permanest tray 08/9/05 21:38:43 Jana_in_Indiana: you'll see in the photos 08/9/05 21:38:56 Jana_in_Indiana: can use black trays too, no holes 08/9/05 21:39:03 Carolyn_in_CA: Is that like the black trays without holes under the plant cell paks that have the plants? 08/9/05 21:39:21 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, but elevated 08/9/05 21:39:26 Jana_in_Indiana: I gotta go, sorry 08/9/05 21:39:36 Carolyn_in_CA: Bye 08/9/05 21:39:46 Brenda_Al: nite sorry to see you go 08/9/05 21:39:50 tee7202_IL: night 08/9/05 21:39:53 Jana_in_Indiana: daqughter is emptying bedroom, going to paint -- might not be able to get to the kitchen soon, LOL 08/9/05 21:40:08 Brenda_Al: lol 08/9/05 21:40:15 Carolyn_in_CA: Does anyone know about Texas watering? 08/9/05 21:40:15 Jana_in_Indiana: but I don't want to stop her! 08/9/05 21:40:18 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite all! 08/9/05 21:40:31 tee7202_IL: I was just reading about that last night 08/9/05 21:40:33 Jana_in_Indiana: check the chat logs for TS watering, it's there 08/9/05 21:40:36 Jana_in_Indiana: bye 08/9/05 21:40:39 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out 08/9/05 21:40:43 Carolyn_in_CA: Where are the chat logs? 08/9/05 21:40:58 Carolyn_in_CA: I have searched and searched for them 08/9/05 21:41:13 Shellie_in_CA Logs Out 08/9/05 21:41:13 tee7202_IL: I want to place my first order for either plants of leaves I am still deciding 08/9/05 21:41:33 goj62: think they,re in files 08/9/05 21:41:38 tee7202_IL: I am thinking about elavated mat watering 08/9/05 21:41:38 Carolyn_in_CA: Why not get some of each? Leaves take longer to bloom 08/9/05 21:42:22 tee7202_IL: that is what I am thinking I am just trying to figure out what supplies I need 08/9/05 21:42:43 Brenda_Al: cedar creek violets has a sell on leaves, tee 08/9/05 21:42:56 tee7202_IL: I love sales 08/9/05 21:43:03 tee7202_IL: lol 08/9/05 21:43:05 Carolyn_in_CA: Of course there's Ebay for leaves and mostly very small plantlets, but the venders on the AVSA.org site list have websites, and you can enjoy reading the descriptions, look at the photos, and decide what you want. I like the Violet Gallery in York Springs 08/9/05 21:43:16 Carolyn_in_CA: PA. www.violetgallery.com 08/9/05 21:43:58 tee7202_IL: do you use soil or soiless mix 08/9/05 21:44:03 goj62: brenda wish you,d sent me that link at cedar creek can,t seem to get it 08/9/05 21:44:31 Brenda_Al: cedar creek violets .com 08/9/05 21:44:45 Carolyn_in_CA: Lyons is great, but I think there's a $25.00 min. (that's nothing, right!) There are some others like Bloomin Jungle and Pat's Pets that are nice. Cape Cod Violetry. Cedar Creek violets is on ebay, but I think they are having a sale that ends in the 08/9/05 21:45:21 goj62: ok will try 08/9/05 21:45:49 Carolyn_in_CA: next week or so. I think the AVSA vender list is also on our yahoo.com site under files. www.cedarcreekviolets.com 08/9/05 21:45:52 goj62: just sent off for 6 today tho 08/9/05 21:46:05 Brenda_Al: Judi, have you tried Travis in Georgia yet 08/9/05 21:46:12 tee7202_IL: well if I order a few supplies plants and leaves I think I can make $25 in my sleep 08/9/05 21:46:20 Brenda_Al: what did you order Judi 08/9/05 21:46:40 goj62: no heard he,d had a fire or lost a lot due to hurraican 08/9/05 21:47:17 Brenda_Al: so much for being a close by place 08/9/05 21:47:52 Brenda_Al: Tee, how long have you been growing avs 08/9/05 21:48:00 Carolyn_in_CA: There are no local AV places near San Francisco. Just noids at Home Depot, Long's Drugs, etc. 08/9/05 21:48:17 goj62: got buckeye bridemaid & calico cherrie n cream pink feathers blue diamond annabella 08/9/05 21:48:36 tee7202_IL: I have always had a few noids about 10 yrs 08/9/05 21:48:36 Brenda_Al: I'm dying here 08/9/05 21:49:07 Brenda_Al: you take good care of the pink feather 08/9/05 21:49:13 goj62: heat ???? 08/9/05 21:49:16 tee7202_IL: No local places in Chicago subs either 08/9/05 21:49:25 Brenda_Al: allI have is Noids too 08/9/05 21:49:45 Carolyn_in_CA: Where did you get these violets? 08/9/05 21:49:58 goj62: off ebay 08/9/05 21:49:59 Brenda_Al: but that is about to change 08/9/05 21:50:01 tee7202_IL: how long have you been growing AV Brenda 08/9/05 21:50:31 Brenda_Al: off and on for years, never serious until now 08/9/05 21:50:36 Carolyn_in_CA: Mine are all noids except one big Optimara California, single fuchsia in large clay pot. The others come and go in 3 inch plastic pots. 08/9/05 21:50:41 tee7202_IL: me too I just got my first stand with lights put up Sat 08/9/05 21:51:11 Brenda_Al: good deal 08/9/05 21:51:53 Brenda_Al: and how many more stands are we getting? 08/9/05 21:52:01 Carolyn_in_CA: I have been doing the ebay thing for the past month and now all the stuff is coming. I mentioned in the messages, tale of two venders, about the plants I got, then the Bloomin Jungle mini babies, and also some leaves from VioletLover in Ga. Her leaves 08/9/05 21:52:03 Carolyn_in_CA: are great 08/9/05 21:52:15 Carolyn_in_CA: Arrived in CA with no wilting, etc 08/9/05 21:52:37 tee7202_IL: is it more expensive to shop on EBAY 08/9/05 21:52:54 Carolyn_in_CA: Jana and some other people like 08/9/05 21:52:54 goj62: been looking at her but haven,t ordered yet 08/9/05 21:53:55 goj62: sometimes higher sometimes not I ordered from NY and got good deal like lady in Fla tooo 08/9/05 21:53:57 Carolyn_in_CA: Jana and some others like Dogmom Cheryl tend to not like Ebay due to the bidding wars that elevate the prices, the fact that the same things are often available from venders, and maybe that when you buy from ebay, you are not certain how skilled the vender 08/9/05 21:54:17 Carolyn_in_CA: how experienced....whether the plants are diseased or buggy. I always take a chance 08/9/05 21:54:56 goj62: so far no problems 08/9/05 21:54:56 tee7202_IL: Are you Isolating you new Stuff Carolyn 08/9/05 21:55:08 Carolyn_in_CA: Available from venders at a much lower price 08/9/05 21:55:40 Carolyn_in_CA: Well, I don't have much room to isolate! I took some violet leaves to work today on the train so I could keep them cool in the AC! 08/9/05 21:56:19 tee7202_IL: wait I on on the floor 08/9/05 21:56:36 tee7202_IL: you carried leaves with you to work 08/9/05 21:56:55 Carolyn_in_CA: I am putting up my plant carts, then I will put the leaves from each vender in a contained which I will water and cover like Jana said. I may not put them on a separate cart, but I'm thinking about doing that 08/9/05 21:57:00 tee7202_IL: Carolyn you are a die hard 08/9/05 21:57:15 Brenda_Al: lol 08/9/05 21:57:27 Carolyn_in_CA: Yeah, I wanted to see them so much. They had been stuck in the Post Office all weekend. But they were just fine. 08/9/05 21:59:05 Carolyn_in_CA: I also wanted to show them to my coworker who is a former best in show winner and former AV judge. He grows chimeras and brings them by to show me. Interestingly, he doesn't do all the soaking in sugar water, bleach, etc. And he always fertilized with 08/9/05 21:59:17 Carolyn_in_CA: regular Miracle Gro. His violets looked really big. 08/9/05 21:59:37 tee7202_IL: I have never had a big AV 08/9/05 22:00:48 Brenda_Al: some pic look so big and have such large leaves, wonder how they do it 08/9/05 22:01:01 Carolyn_in_CA: Actually in 1981, he got best in show, 2nd, 3rd and best mini. He was a kid then and living with his parents in the foggy part of San Fran. Now he lives where it's too warm he says. And after he got 1000 violets and won prizes, he decided to quit 08/9/05 22:01:44 tee7202_IL: just like that 08/9/05 22:02:10 Carolyn_in_CA: That's part of the Texas watering. They talk about in the Pauline Bartholomew Growing to Show books also. Many versions, probably can get for two bucks on Amazon. Also has stuff like moving the leaves and anchoring with toothpicks to close gaps 08/9/05 22:02:23 Carolyn_in_CA: I think it took a while with 1000! 08/9/05 22:03:09 Carolyn_in_CA: I want to get some decent violets and take to work so he can advise me! I'll only be there for two months, so I have to hurry up! 08/9/05 22:03:56 Carolyn_in_CA: I was so bad on ebay. I returned to my first obsession and bought a couple orchids. 08/9/05 22:04:42 Brenda_Al: double the fun 08/9/05 22:04:50 tee7202_IL: ooh orchids 08/9/05 22:05:01 Carolyn_in_CA: I killed so many orchids when I first started growing them and quit once for ten years. I had a whole grocery bag of dead tags. 08/9/05 22:05:10 goj62: never had an orchid but love the hoya plants 08/9/05 22:05:14 Carolyn_in_CA: Now they do fine if I water them once a week 08/9/05 22:05:39 Brenda_Al: what is a hoya 08/9/05 22:05:52 Carolyn_in_CA: I see so many pretty hoyas some with golden variegated leaves, etc. I always thought they got mealy bugs easily, but I never had one 08/9/05 22:06:38 tee7202_IL: I bought 2 orchids from Taget because they were $6 08/9/05 22:06:59 Carolyn_in_CA: One other idea for getting plants and leaves is to go to local AV clubs. Members sell plants cheaply and also leaves I heard. 08/9/05 22:07:12 tee7202_IL: I have had them about 6 months and one just up and died on me 08/9/05 22:07:15 goj62: brenda go to the violet barn they have than listed there wax plant 08/9/05 22:07:25 Brenda_Al: ok 08/9/05 22:07:39 Carolyn_in_CA: What kind of orchids did you get? I got a number of small ones for 6 bucks at Home Depot and they got big within the past year 08/9/05 22:08:42 goj62: not listed as wax plant listed as Hoya wax plant is the soutern name I guess LOL 08/9/05 22:09:06 Carolyn_in_CA: The thing about orchids is to have the right light exposure and temperature. Then water about once a week, and don't ever let them soak in water (like a saucer). You can put them on top of a bowl/tray of rocks which have water for humidity as long as the 08/9/05 22:09:16 Carolyn_in_CA: bottom of the pot is above the water level 08/9/05 22:09:20 tee7202_IL: I have no idea 08/9/05 22:09:40 Carolyn_in_CA: What they are is important so you know how to care for them 08/9/05 22:09:59 Carolyn_in_CA: No name means no future!! 08/9/05 22:10:29 tee7202_IL: which is exactly what happen 08/9/05 22:10:58 tee7202_IL: I doubt I will ever get another bloom 08/9/05 22:10:59 Carolyn_in_CA: Unless you know what the genus/species is. You need to know if they like cool, intermediate or warm temps. I grow cool outside, inter in kitchen and bath, and warm on top of my piano with AV's! 08/9/05 22:11:56 goj62: got to get to bed tomorrow is junkie day lol 08/9/05 22:12:04 Carolyn_in_CA: I used to ignore the temp. Now I have Therm. with Humidity meter (9 bucks) in each room/window, so I can look at the range when I pass by. Made all the difference 08/9/05 22:12:16 Brenda_Al: nite judi 08/9/05 22:12:26 Carolyn_in_CA: Judi, what in the world is junkie day? I live in CA you know 08/9/05 22:12:33 tee7202_IL: nite Judi I am right behind you 08/9/05 22:12:39 Brenda_Al: guess I'll poof to 08/9/05 22:12:40 Carolyn_in_CA: Bye tee 08/9/05 22:12:42 Brenda_Al Logs Out 08/9/05 22:12:45 Carolyn_in_CA: Bye 08/9/05 22:13:02 tee7202_IL: Carolyn where did you get this thermoter 08/9/05 22:13:49 Carolyn_in_CA: So I guess we're all going poof. I got mine at Plant It Earth in SF, but they are in most catalogs, like Charley's greenhouses. Plant It Earth probably mails them too 08/9/05 22:13:51 goj62: going to trift stores looking for pot,s for av etc, cake server etc, love junking wed 1/2 price day 08/9/05 22:14:20 Carolyn_in_CA: I live for junk! Buy my clothes there, dishes, not going so much lately, but I love them 08/9/05 22:14:38 tee7202_IL: sounds good I will have to look for one 08/9/05 22:14:41 Carolyn_in_CA: half price day is really awesome 08/9/05 22:14:57 Carolyn_in_CA: Too dangerous for me and my boyfriend. He's worse than I am 08/9/05 22:15:14 tee7202_IL: well I do have to get up early nite 08/9/05 22:15:35 tee7202_IL Logs Out 08/9/05 22:15:35 Carolyn_in_CA: Bye. I'll go too. Bye Judi, bye tee 08/9/05 22:15:36 goj62: yea got 3 blouses last week a big cake container toys sell barbies for 3 or 2 for 5 at fm 08/9/05 22:16:02 Carolyn_in_CA: And you can resell the barbies after you clean them up and comb their hair! 08/9/05 22:16:31 goj62: that what I sell than for at flea market 08/9/05 22:16:58 goj62: sometimes get 4 or 5 for 1 ,00 08/9/05 22:17:05 Carolyn_in_CA: I remember you said that last week when you told me kudzu was the favorite candle scent! 08/9/05 22:17:45 goj62: yea it is got to make candles tur or fri maybe 08/9/05 22:18:05 Carolyn_in_CA: I used to buy semi-depression glass, some 50's and I wanted to either open a store or sell at the flea market or a co-op. Lots of boxes in my place 08/9/05 22:18:58 goj62: thinking of getting out of it not gonna get rich ther e for sure but fun 08/9/05 22:19:11 Carolyn_in_CA: On Jana's website, there was a photo of a candle made by Joan? of Bloomin Jungle or somebody. It was so pretty. Had AV blooms imbedded 08/9/05 22:20:00 Carolyn_in_CA: I think that sometimes you are just financing your hobby or activity 08/9/05 22:20:02 goj62: i sell dishes dolls candles lots of frames bird cages what ever I think I can make a buck off of 08/9/05 22:20:49 goj62: differant wax and have to buy molds etc 08/9/05 22:21:02 Carolyn_in_CA: But, judi people do make money just like that. We have lots of flea markets out near me, and some aren't too expensive to enter, but you have to get it together with a table, showcases, label prices, etc. Umbrella, water jub. I made a list! 08/9/05 22:21:19 Carolyn_in_CA: I have lots of books 08/9/05 22:22:04 goj62: yea me too need to start selling than crochet cross stitch etc 08/9/05 22:22:11 Carolyn_in_CA: Have you thought about ebay for the candles? I never checked to see what people are selling. And maybe the weight would mean higher shipping costs, but people buy and pay 08/9/05 22:22:35 goj62: sell a lot of poncho,s in fall /winter too 08/9/05 22:23:15 Carolyn_in_CA: Look at the huge shipping for AVs. One vender actually put roofing insulation in my box of leaves, (violet lover) but just about everyone else just sent leaves in sandwich bags! 08/9/05 22:23:33 goj62: yea shipping is unreal tho had a customer buy a case of kudzu 10.00 shipping to Miss. 08/9/05 22:23:40 Carolyn_in_CA: I guess the USPO priority mail was around $3.50 08/9/05 22:24:33 Carolyn_in_CA: And oddly enough, there is so much kudzu vine growing in Miss that the State has special programs to eliminate it. (Maybe they did and that's why they ordered from you LOL 08/9/05 22:24:34 goj62: then the po wanted each candle done seprate I thought that was funny 08/9/05 22:24:59 Carolyn_in_CA: Maybe it's the terrorist thing. Could be used for bombs or something 08/9/05 22:25:17 Carolyn_in_CA: What are the ponchos made out of? 08/9/05 22:25:47 Carolyn_in_CA: I spin, knit and crochet, but I'm behind with some lagging projects 08/9/05 22:25:51 goj62: don,t know but I put box in another box with papaer around it etc. sent it on 08/9/05 22:26:36 goj62: mostlt kitting worsted type yarn most like only two patterns 08/9/05 22:27:18 goj62: one is the big granny another is just double crochet 08/9/05 22:27:24 Carolyn_in_CA: That sound pretty nice, but I would take too long to knit them. On big needles it could go faster 08/9/05 22:28:45 goj62: takes me about 2 days on avg, 08/9/05 22:28:50 Carolyn_in_CA: I'm still making my red and green Christmas hex thingies for place mats (or afghan it I get enough)l a pair of socks, blue mohair sweater, lt. green card sweater. I like to knit patterned squares. Not so boring 08/9/05 22:29:13 Carolyn_in_CA: For the barbies, right? 08/9/05 22:30:25 Carolyn_in_CA: BTW, I got that root2gel everyone is talking about. I'm going to mix it up and plant some leaves tonight. If I wait longer, they'll die for sure. I had some wilted leaves and tried the sugar water, Superthrive mixture Jana uses. The leaves really got 08/9/05 22:30:26 goj62: you,re a busy gal then I haven,t even picked up anything in past few weeks last was a baby blanket and barbie clothes that I,ve got to sew snaps on yet 08/9/05 22:31:16 Carolyn_in_CA: perked up. I was surprised. My projects are about two years old! Ashamed to admit it. Stopped buying yarn, but I still spin it 08/9/05 22:31:38 goj62: hey I got my two bottles today haven,t even done anything yet 08/9/05 22:32:16 goj62: didn,t she say to put in water after all done 08/9/05 22:32:23 Carolyn_in_CA: I knew about the sugar and superthrive in water soaking bec orchid people do that when they get dried up bareroot plants. It really works. 08/9/05 22:32:29 Carolyn_in_CA: Water in the gel? 08/9/05 22:33:31 goj62: no after you use the gel put the rooted leaves in water tray I think I got it somewhere 08/9/05 22:33:38 Carolyn_in_CA: I heard something about that and have to check my notes. For the sugar and superthrive you just put them in a gallon jug of water. No order given for that mixture 08/9/05 22:34:37 Carolyn_in_CA: Umm, I think Jana said not to forget to put water in the bottom tray under the gel. I think most people get the unit that has a clear lid. Like a small propagator. 08/9/05 22:35:21 goj62: will look it up tomorrow 08/9/05 22:36:10 Carolyn_in_CA: And the 6 pak with the gel in it fits into that unit. I'm using 3 oz solo cups which I will put in some lidded plastic boxes I got at Walmart last night for 99 cents each. I think each box will hold around six solo cups, maybe 8. That's how I am going 08/9/05 22:36:50 Carolyn_in_CA: to isolate my new ebay leaves. I bought some special set of 60 leaves for 15.00, so I don't know, will need a big box! 08/9/05 22:37:41 goj62: sure hope I can root the pen n ink but think i killed one already 08/9/05 22:37:50 Carolyn_in_CA: My AV friend from work just plants leaves altogether in a big clear plastic box 08/9/05 22:37:56 goj62: how,d I miss that ? 08/9/05 22:38:04 Carolyn_in_CA: What color is pen n ink? 08/9/05 22:38:35 Carolyn_in_CA: I think Jana wrote in the digests of messages. I need to find the old chats bec I know she spoke of this there too 08/9/05 22:38:38 goj62: white with dark blue trim around it beatifull 08/9/05 22:39:05 Carolyn_in_CA: Oohhh! sounds gorgeous. I like that color scheme a lot. Where did you get it? 08/9/05 22:39:20 goj62: from Steve 08/9/05 22:39:50 Carolyn_in_CA: Is that Steverd like Steven Reed or something like that? He had a nice list 08/9/05 22:39:50 goj62: he,s out now tho or for the year anyway 08/9/05 22:40:01 goj62: yea 08/9/05 22:40:17 Carolyn_in_CA: He had some interesting leaves I think he listed in 08/9/05 22:40:22 Carolyn_in_CA: April 08/9/05 22:40:22 goj62: thik he has a pic. on his site 08/9/05 22:40:34 Carolyn_in_CA: I'll check it 08/9/05 22:40:49 Carolyn_in_CA: DId you check cedar creek violets sale? 08/9/05 22:40:54 goj62: don,t buy anymore LOL 08/9/05 22:41:10 Carolyn_in_CA: SOunds like a big collection, hahahah! 08/9/05 22:41:21 goj62: not yet will tomorrow got to get me to bed 08/9/05 22:41:43 Carolyn_in_CA: Ok, I'll go too. See you soon. Take care 08/9/05 22:41:47 goj62: get my beaty sleep lol 08/9/05 22:41:50 Carolyn_in_CA Logs Out 08/9/05 22:41:57 goj62 Logs Out