08/24/05 03:22:02 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.161.230.177]
08/24/05 03:22:28 Jana_in_Indiana: asdf
08/24/05 03:22:31 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out
08/24/05 20:01:23 goj62(Judi) Logs in [172.130.185.42]
08/24/05 20:01:32 Den_in_FL Logs in [209.208.77.108]
08/24/05 20:02:05 goj62(Judi): guess we,re early lol
08/24/05 20:02:34 Den_in_FL: Is there a chat tonight?
08/24/05 20:03:10 Den_in_FL: I didn't see an announcement but could have missed it.
08/24/05 20:03:21 goj62(Judi): yea guess everyone running behind
08/24/05 20:04:26 Den_in_FL: Oh ok. I just signed on in case there was a chat. I need to get to sleep early for an early appt tomorrow but of course I can't sleep! Might as well be on the computer.
08/24/05 20:04:53 goj62(Judi): what is your favoite violets   standard , mimi etc.?
08/24/05 20:04:56 Den_in_FL: What kind of violets do you grow?
08/24/05 20:05:17 Den_in_FL: Oh minis mostly because you can have more of them on your stand! LOL
08/24/05 20:05:37 Den_in_FL: I have a few standards that I like but not many.
08/24/05 20:06:04 goj62(Judi): like the buckeye,s plus mimi
08/24/05 20:06:23 Brenda___Al Logs in [12.217.40.181]
08/24/05 20:06:28 Den_in_FL: Buckeyes are nice.
08/24/05 20:06:35 Den_in_FL: Hi Brenda.
08/24/05 20:06:40 Brenda___Al: hello
08/24/05 20:06:55 Brenda___Al: good to see you Judi
08/24/05 20:07:01 Den_in_FL: We are just talking about the kind of violets we grow.
08/24/05 20:07:27 Den_in_FL: Do you have a favorite type?
08/24/05 20:07:51 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.145.238.235]
08/24/05 20:08:03 Den_in_FL: Hi Sherry
08/24/05 20:08:04 goj62(Judi): i like than all about to run out of room
08/24/05 20:08:05 sherry__(Mo): Hi!!
08/24/05 20:08:13 Brenda___Al: all of them... that is my problrem
08/24/05 20:08:23 goj62(Judi): hi sherry
08/24/05 20:08:25 Cheryl-TX Logs in [68.94.10.232]
08/24/05 20:08:37 Den_in_FL: Hi cheryl
08/24/05 20:08:37 Brenda___Al: brb
08/24/05 20:08:40 sherry__(Mo): It's definitly an addiction-isn't it-LOL
08/24/05 20:08:42 Brenda___Al Logs Out
08/24/05 20:08:43 Den_in_FL: LOL Brenda
08/24/05 20:08:44 Cheryl-TX: sorry I am late, had to take my mom home
08/24/05 20:08:53 sherry__(Mo): Hi Cheryl
08/24/05 20:09:08 Deb_in_IA Logs in [12.210.38.161]
08/24/05 20:09:12 goj62(Judi): just won another ebay bid like 6 or 7 of than
08/24/05 20:09:25 Den_in_FL: You're not late.
08/24/05 20:09:31 Brenda___Al Logs in [12.217.40.181]
08/24/05 20:09:34 Deb_in_IA: hi everyone
08/24/05 20:09:36 Den_in_FL: oh cool Judi
08/24/05 20:09:50 Den_in_FL: Hello
08/24/05 20:09:56 Cheryl-TX: what did you win
08/24/05 20:10:00 Den_in_FL: What plants did you win?
08/24/05 20:10:11 Deb_in_IA: hope you got them at a reasonable price Judi
08/24/05 20:10:15 goj62(Judi): yea it,s cool alright  breaking my bank account too   oh well
08/24/05 20:10:34 Brenda___Al: puter acting goofy, may be listening not talking
08/24/05 20:10:38 Den_in_FL: LOL 90% of my collection came from Ebay. LOL
08/24/05 20:11:27 Cheryl-TX: I have gotten some great one from ebay at really good prices
08/24/05 20:11:37 Tina_in_CO Logs in [67.176.91.232]
08/24/05 20:11:37 Millie_Ca Logs in [66.215.46.114]
08/24/05 20:11:49 Den_in_FL: Hi Tina Hi Millie
08/24/05 20:11:49 Millie_Ca: Good Evening all
08/24/05 20:11:50 goj62(Judi): yea I order a lot fromm a lady in Fla,  she has a list quite often
08/24/05 20:12:00 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tina and Millie!!
08/24/05 20:12:00 Tina_in_CO: Hello All
08/24/05 20:12:01 Brenda___Al: what did you get Judi
08/24/05 20:12:08 Cheryl-TX: did yall come in the same car tina and millie
08/24/05 20:12:12 Cheryl-TX: lol
08/24/05 20:12:17 Tina_in_CO: almost LOL
08/24/05 20:12:17 Millie_Ca: LOL
08/24/05 20:12:21 sherry__(Mo): LOL
08/24/05 20:12:37 Den_in_FL: Judi's keeping it a secret.
08/24/05 20:12:48 goj62(Judi): blue owl for one   haven,t got the list right now  was looking for it
08/24/05 20:12:56 Millie_Ca: No Secret's Judy LOL
08/24/05 20:13:10 Brenda___Al: right Millie!
08/24/05 20:13:59 Millie_Ca: MY Land group needed some help sorry I was late
08/24/05 20:14:00 goj62(Judi): Millie so good to hear the news on your daughter
08/24/05 20:14:36 Cheryl-TX: is blue owl a violet?
08/24/05 20:14:39 sherry__(Mo): I second that!!
08/24/05 20:14:44 Millie_Ca: Yes I am still in the clouds Still a long way to go but we can go forward now so great
08/24/05 20:14:48 Tina_in_CO: that is a neat plant blue owl Judi
08/24/05 20:14:54 Den_in_FL: Yeah, isn't Blue Owl a wasp?
08/24/05 20:15:07 Tina_in_CO: yes well semi wasp I would say
08/24/05 20:15:14 goj62(Judi): it sure better be  but couldn,t find a pic . of it
08/24/05 20:15:17 Den_in_FL: Yeah, so happy for you Millie about your daughter.
08/24/05 20:15:43 Cheryl-TX: I didnt see it in First class
08/24/05 20:15:46 Millie_Ca: Thanks it happened throug all the prayers I just know it
08/24/05 20:16:14 goj62(Judi): i did order my first trailer do I need to get a special pot for it ?
08/24/05 20:16:30 Tina_in_CO: It is wasp like blossom not a blossom like Blue tail fly what I call a true wasp blossom
08/24/05 20:16:33 Millie_Ca: Yes Judy
08/24/05 20:16:37 Den_in_FL: I believe it, Millie. Faith can move mountains.
08/24/05 20:16:50 Millie_Ca: for sure Den
08/24/05 20:17:10 goj62(Judi): oh goodie   have no idea where or what kind
08/24/05 20:17:11 Millie_Ca: They are called pan pots or azalea pots
08/24/05 20:17:24 Cheryl-TX: you have been so brave though all this millie
08/24/05 20:17:27 Brenda___Al: Judi did you get a pant or a leaf
08/24/05 20:17:43 goj62(Judi): plant
08/24/05 20:17:43 Cheryl-TX: I just dont know how you have done it
08/24/05 20:18:00 Brenda___Al: good girl
08/24/05 20:18:02 Cheryl-TX: trailer leaves grow fast
08/24/05 20:18:11 sherry__(Mo): If you can't find a shallow pot, fill the bottom part of a pot with perlite
08/24/05 20:18:30 Millie_Ca: Cheryl I had to be and through God I stayed healthy, Lost some wait but will get it back I am sure
08/24/05 20:18:31 Deb_in_IA: Millie, can you change the font color. The green is really hard to read
08/24/05 20:18:41 Cheryl-TX: butter tubs work well
08/24/05 20:18:49 Cheryl-TX: and big tuna cans
08/24/05 20:18:54 Millie_Ca: weight+
08/24/05 20:19:10 Millie_Ca: OK will change color
08/24/05 20:19:11 Tina_in_CO: I keep trying to give Millie some of my weight but have not found a way to do it LOL
08/24/05 20:19:16 Den_in_FL: Don't tuna cans rust???
08/24/05 20:19:53 Cheryl-TX: i have always seen you as very petite and thin tina
08/24/05 20:19:55 Tina_in_CO: I use the pot bottoms that you use to catch water under your pots
08/24/05 20:19:57 Millie_Ca: Is this better
08/24/05 20:20:05 Millie_Ca: Nope will change it
08/24/05 20:20:17 Tina_in_CO: Oh that is awful millie LOL
08/24/05 20:20:20 Cheryl-TX: cant imagine  you wanting to give weight away
08/24/05 20:20:22 Tina_in_CO: go to dark blue
08/24/05 20:20:30 Millie_Ca: blue to red
08/24/05 20:20:36 Tina_in_CO: oh yes 2o pounds at least LOL
08/24/05 20:20:38 Millie_Ca: Is that better
08/24/05 20:20:46 Tina_in_CO: somewhat LOL
08/24/05 20:20:51 Millie_Ca: I only want 11 LOL
08/24/05 20:21:00 Cheryl-TX: we dont have many choices for color
08/24/05 20:21:05 Tina_in_CO: ok well that would be a good start LOL
08/24/05 20:21:20 Millie_Ca: I went to black
08/24/05 20:21:27 Millie_Ca: did not work
08/24/05 20:21:28 Tina_in_CO: LOL
08/24/05 20:21:29 Millie_Ca: LOL
08/24/05 20:21:40 Tina_in_CO: Ok additive question ready
08/24/05 20:21:47 Millie_Ca: ok
08/24/05 20:21:57 Tina_in_CO: what do you all know about worm castings?
08/24/05 20:22:17 Tina_in_CO: and using them instead of say manure
08/24/05 20:22:20 sherry__(Mo): Cheryl, wasn't you raising worms?
08/24/05 20:22:23 Cheryl-TX: I have never used them, but have read they work great
08/24/05 20:22:44 goj62(Judi): you,ll are kidding
08/24/05 20:22:56 Cheryl-TX: yes sherry, but i was afraid to bring that up, last time i made  us sick
08/24/05 20:23:12 Brenda___Al: I'm with you Judi lol
08/24/05 20:23:25 goj62(Judi): got to be something better
08/24/05 20:23:41 Cheryl-TX: they would be excellent fertilizer
08/24/05 20:24:02 sherry__(Mo): LOl Cheryl
08/24/05 20:24:02 goj62(Judi): chicken, cow fish something
08/24/05 20:24:06 Deb_in_IA: well you use cow poop, why is worm poop any different. LOL
08/24/05 20:24:29 goj62(Judi): it,s the thought of it I guess
08/24/05 20:24:40 Millie_Ca: actually its a very nice texture and is not offensive at all I do not use it but raised them also
08/24/05 20:24:49 Cheryl-TX: they should be better, because they would be not as strong, not as much uric acid
08/24/05 20:24:58 Brenda___Al: just as long as I don't have to be the one that has to harvest the stuff
08/24/05 20:25:08 goj62(Judi): where do you get it ??/ at a nursery
08/24/05 20:25:09 Tina_in_CO: someone told me that they may carry nematodes
08/24/05 20:25:42 Cheryl-TX: mine have never been outside and come from a long line of stay insiders
08/24/05 20:26:37 Tina_in_CO: do you sell your worm castings Cheryl?
08/24/05 20:27:13 Millie_Ca: Mine were out side and actually I enjoyed them Gave them to my sister when I moved here as I was afraid the desert would kill them. You should see my sisters Garden so wonderful
08/24/05 20:27:22 Cheryl-TX: no, never have just keep putting my worms and their castings in bigger box
08/24/05 20:27:54 Cheryl-TX: why did that say please rephrase  you last message?
08/24/05 20:27:55 Den_in_FL: Where do you keep them, cheryl?
08/24/05 20:29:03 Millie_Ca: I did not see that Cheryl
08/24/05 20:29:30 Cheryl-TX: i keep them in the laundry room in a large plastic box about 2x3x2
08/24/05 20:31:00 goj62(Judi): I remember see a way to make a mulch for plants using paper , worm etc. but forgot just how it was done but was used in gardens
08/24/05 20:31:01 Tina_in_CO: would you be willing to send me some castings to try?
08/24/05 20:31:04 Cheryl-TX: i guess i ought to try some
08/24/05 20:31:10 sherry__(Mo): Do you use any castings on anything Cheryl?
08/24/05 20:31:32 sherry__(Mo): That would be a good experiment
08/24/05 20:31:45 Cheryl-TX: sure tina, but will have to figure out how to harvest them
08/24/05 20:31:48 Millie_Ca: I will get some from my sister and give it a try
08/24/05 20:31:51 Tina_in_CO: LOL
08/24/05 20:32:18 Tina_in_CO: I think it is just a matter of sifting the worms out of the brown stuff LOL
08/24/05 20:32:23 Tina_in_CO: not sure LOL
08/24/05 20:32:39 goj62(Judi): what about pot ash in mix? has anyone tryed that
08/24/05 20:32:52 Tina_in_CO: I haven't Judi
08/24/05 20:32:56 Cheryl-TX: you are supposed to scoop all  of the stuff into one side of the box and put down new paper and then put food on new paper and the worms will follow
08/24/05 20:33:05 Millie_Ca: Cheryl I think my sister just takes the soil and adds more to make it up. I use to have to add all the time to keep them fed right
08/24/05 20:33:14 goj62(Judi): I know it sure helped my fig tree
08/24/05 20:33:47 Millie_Ca: I used all left overs LOL
08/24/05 20:33:54 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.194.39.163]
08/24/05 20:34:02 Millie_Ca: HI Jana
08/24/05 20:34:05 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry I'm late!
08/24/05 20:34:10 Brenda___Al: hello Jana!!!
08/24/05 20:34:11 Den_in_FL: Hi Jana
08/24/05 20:34:11 sherry__(Mo): Hi Jana!!
08/24/05 20:34:15 Cheryl-TX: well all  i use is newspaper and vegetable matter
08/24/05 20:34:16 Millie_Ca: busy on Yahoo
08/24/05 20:34:22 Cheryl-TX: hi jana
08/24/05 20:34:37 Jana_in_Indiana: no, been sick all day
08/24/05 20:34:50 Millie_Ca: Not again so sorry
08/24/05 20:34:52 Cheryl-TX: well what does every one use in their soil mix
08/24/05 20:35:23 Brenda___Al: what do the worm casting do for avs
08/24/05 20:35:37 Tina_in_CO: Hello Jana
08/24/05 20:35:54 Cheryl-TX: i guess it is fertilier, like cow poop or chicken poop
08/24/05 20:35:57 Tina_in_CO: I was asking about worm castings
08/24/05 20:35:59 Millie_Ca: its the same as a fert.
08/24/05 20:36:00 Janis_in_Okla Logs in [70.241.53.98]
08/24/05 20:36:08 Tina_in_CO: Hello Janis
08/24/05 20:36:08 Millie_Ca: hi janis
08/24/05 20:36:16 Deb_in_IA: hi Janis
08/24/05 20:36:18 Janis_in_Okla: Hi everyone
08/24/05 20:36:25 Den_in_FL: Hi Janis
08/24/05 20:36:28 Jana_in_Indiana: compost, manure (dehydrated & compressed into pellets, lime, bone meal
08/24/05 20:36:30 Janis_in_Okla: WOW, Lots of chatters tonight
08/24/05 20:36:35 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Janiis
08/24/05 20:36:48 Janis_in_Okla: :)
08/24/05 20:37:09 Cheryl-TX: what kind of compost jana?
08/24/05 20:37:23 Jana_in_Indiana: sometimes add greensand, cottonseed meal, kelp meal, blood meal
08/24/05 20:37:40 Janis_in_Okla: BRB
08/24/05 20:37:47 Jana_in_Indiana: Intervale, found it in the internet, from Vermont I think
08/24/05 20:38:17 Brenda___Al: what is greensand
08/24/05 20:38:27 sherry__(Mo): Jana, I was going to ask you about the green sand, what does it do?
08/24/05 20:38:30 Deb_in_IA: what is Intervate
08/24/05 20:39:09 Jana_in_Indiana: Greensand, also known as Glauconite, is a mineral mined from natural deposits of glauconite located in the Southern part of New Jersey.
08/24/05 20:39:24 Jana_in_Indiana: These deposits are of marine origin and are composed primarily of iron-potassium silicate, which gives it its bluish green color.
08/24/05 20:39:37 Jana_in_Indiana: Greensand is an excellent soil conditioner due to its unique combination of physical and chemical properties which give the gardener the benefits attributed to both sand and clay materials.
08/24/05 20:39:54 Jana_in_Indiana: aren't you sorry you asked Sherry!  LOL
08/24/05 20:40:02 Brenda___Al: lol
08/24/05 20:40:32 Jana_in_Indiana: Intervale is a brand name of compost make in Vermont
08/24/05 20:40:34 Cheryl-TX: does it settle out in the soil mix
08/24/05 20:40:49 Jana_in_Indiana: not that I've noticed
08/24/05 20:41:04 Jana_in_Indiana: only add a handful to about 12 gallons of soil
08/24/05 20:41:21 sherry__(Mo): Our walking dictionary and encyclopedia-LOL
08/24/05 20:41:28 Cheryl-TX: I am having really good results with red lava sand
08/24/05 20:41:45 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl, I have a file that lists what many soil amendments are & what they do.  I'll send it to you
08/24/05 20:41:58 Cheryl-TX: it gives bigger blooms
08/24/05 20:42:08 Janis_in_Okla: back
08/24/05 20:42:34 Tina_in_CO: sent it to me als jana
08/24/05 20:42:42 Tina_in_CO: please
08/24/05 20:43:09 Jana_in_Indiana: sure Tina, anyone else what it?
08/24/05 20:43:18 Cheryl-TX: my streps really seem to like it also
08/24/05 20:43:36 Jana_in_Indiana: I would use the red lava sand if I could find it
08/24/05 20:43:40 goj62(Judi): I do   I might learn something
08/24/05 20:43:47 Jana_in_Indiana: ok Judi
08/24/05 20:43:49 Brenda___Al: Cheryl, tell us more about the red lava sand
08/24/05 20:44:03 Cheryl-TX: maybe it should be posted in the files Jana, sounds like something everyone might be interested in
08/24/05 20:44:35 Jana_in_Indiana: it is in the files of VVV, can't remember if I put it on VR or not
08/24/05 20:44:47 Jana_in_Indiana: it's actually 3 files of info
08/24/05 20:45:02 goj62(Judi): ok will find it
08/24/05 20:45:19 Cheryl-TX: I started using it about 15 months ago, on the advice of Richard Nicohlas, he grows the most beautiful plants
08/24/05 20:45:47 Cheryl-TX: i think it is full of iron, but not sure, just know the blooms are larger now
08/24/05 20:46:02 Jana_in_Indiana: all I can find here is the rocks, not sand or even tiny rocks -- where do you get it Cheryl?
08/24/05 20:46:31 Cheryl-TX: at the garden centers
08/24/05 20:47:27 Jana_in_Indiana: how much do you add?
08/24/05 20:47:28 sherry__(Mo): I haven't seen it here
08/24/05 20:47:35 Cheryl-TX: i could send  you some
08/24/05 20:47:37 Jana_in_Indiana: it's not here either
08/24/05 20:47:46 Jana_in_Indiana: I would appreciate that Cheryl
08/24/05 20:47:55 Jana_in_Indiana: let me know how much I owe you
08/24/05 20:47:56 Brenda___Al: do we just ask for "red lava sand"
08/24/05 20:47:57 goj62(Judi): I can,t even find large perlite or verlimite here I know I won,t be able to fing that
08/24/05 20:48:06 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
08/24/05 20:48:17 Jana_in_Indiana: I did find greensand at Lowes
08/24/05 20:48:33 Cheryl-TX: about a cup to 10 quarts of mix
08/24/05 20:48:44 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks!
08/24/05 20:49:43 Jana_in_Indiana: Pat has a friend that bring some back for her every time she goes to Fl
08/24/05 20:50:16 goj62(Judi): hey I got a brother down there
08/24/05 20:50:19 Millie_Ca: Sorry trying to catch up Darn Phone LOL
08/24/05 20:51:31 Cheryl-TX: we were talking ab out green sand and red lava sand
08/24/05 20:51:36 Brenda___Al: assume there is no use for the white sand at the gulf...too much salt?
08/24/05 20:51:56 Millie_Ca: OK Got it all now
08/24/05 20:52:03 Jana_in_Indiana: not much nmutrients in white sand
08/24/05 20:52:14 Cheryl-TX: i would think so, if your water has too much saline in it it will not grow
08/24/05 20:52:30 Cheryl-TX: the vilolet will not grow
08/24/05 20:52:42 goj62(Judi): what about sand from Lowe,s   got a bag but haven,t opened it yet  someone sais to start leafs in it but---
08/24/05 20:53:06 goj62(Judi): said
08/24/05 20:53:25 Jana_in_Indiana: I got greensand at Lowes
08/24/05 20:53:30 Cheryl-TX: that is one way they would start leaves years ago
08/24/05 20:53:39 Millie_Ca: I found if yoy go to a independent nursey and tell them you need this much of so and so they will order it for you. Big business is running them out and they are more eager to please
08/24/05 20:54:35 Tina_in_CO: In the house plant sectin Jana?
08/24/05 20:54:47 goj62(Judi): this I have the guy tols me it was for plants
08/24/05 20:54:53 Jana_in_Indiana: it was actually near the entrance
08/24/05 20:55:17 Tina_in_CO: oh
08/24/05 20:55:44 Jana_in_Indiana: but there was some in the soil amendment, fert section
08/24/05 20:57:25 Cheryl-TX: dose anyone use oyster shell
08/24/05 20:57:47 Jana_in_Indiana: no, use lime instead
08/24/05 20:57:54 Cheryl-TX: i would  imagine it would also make the soil lighter
08/24/05 20:57:59 goj62(Judi): not me but have thought about egg shells
08/24/05 20:58:07 Janis_in_Okla: got to go.  see you all later
08/24/05 20:58:10 Janis_in_Okla Logs Out
08/24/05 20:58:32 Tina_in_CO: it would seem if you add to many things to your soil you won't be able to tell what is causing you any trouble
08/24/05 20:58:45 Millie_Ca: I guess it's to late to say Night Janis
08/24/05 20:58:47 goj62(Judi): amen
08/24/05 20:58:51 Cheryl-TX: yes but who uses eggs anymore, when my kids were young we had eggs all the time, but not any more
08/24/05 20:59:09 Jana_in_Indiana: right Tina!  I only add what Pat tells me to, ;)
08/24/05 20:59:19 Cheryl-TX: that is right
08/24/05 20:59:41 Jana_in_Indiana: anyone try the Azomite?
08/24/05 21:00:00 Tina_in_CO: Pats soil does not have the green sand it in?
08/24/05 21:00:03 Cheryl-TX: i would guess the best way to do it would be to start off with plain mix and then add something new every three months or so
08/24/05 21:00:19 Cheryl-TX: no what is it
08/24/05 21:00:21 Tina_in_CO: the red lava sand is intruiging
08/24/05 21:00:45 Tina_in_CO: where do you get it cheryl
08/24/05 21:00:52 Jana_in_Indiana: her soil for GTS does, it's completely different & she uses it after they get to a certain size (larger)
08/24/05 21:01:19 Cheryl-TX: the garden center, both mike's and calaways carry it
08/24/05 21:01:29 Millie_Ca: I agree Cheryl I tryed Pat's soil and like it but started slow and did have to make ajustments for my growing conditions
08/24/05 21:01:34 Jana_in_Indiana: it was named Azomite because it contains everything from A to Z
08/24/05 21:01:53 Cheryl-TX: i found i was using too  much fertilizer
08/24/05 21:02:09 Tina_in_CO: what is GTS
08/24/05 21:02:21 Cheryl-TX: most soil mixes have slow release fert and that will last for over a month
08/24/05 21:02:22 Millie_Ca: Yes Cheryl Me to Cut way back
08/24/05 21:02:36 Jana_in_Indiana: Grow To Show Tina
08/24/05 21:02:42 Cheryl-TX: it was making my plants brittle
08/24/05 21:02:49 Tina_in_CO: can you send me that recipe?
08/24/05 21:02:58 Tina_in_CO: intersted in seeing it
08/24/05 21:03:06 Cheryl-TX: since i repot often they do pretty good without fert
08/24/05 21:03:27 Millie_Ca: The groth on mine slowed alot
08/24/05 21:03:36 Millie_Ca: growth
08/24/05 21:03:41 Cheryl-TX: sure tina
08/24/05 21:04:08 Tina_in_CO: is azomite a soil?
08/24/05 21:04:14 Jana_in_Indiana: it's her regular soil plus other stuff (blood meal, kelp meal, cotton seed meal, rock phosphate -- add 2 tablespoons of each) then 'cooks' it for a year before using it
08/24/05 21:04:16 Cheryl-TX: the think i try to work with is a good strong root system and it seems the rest follows
08/24/05 21:04:24 Jana_in_Indiana: no, Azomite is a powder
08/24/05 21:05:05 Jana_in_Indiana: you're so rifght Cheryl, without good roots, you won't get anything
08/24/05 21:05:08 Deb_in_IA: why does she "cook" it for a year?
08/24/05 21:05:45 Jana_in_Indiana: I guess it sort of composts & breaks down the nutrients in it?  Not really sure
08/24/05 21:06:32 Jana_in_Indiana: to 'cook it' she adds a quart of hot tap water once a month & stirs it well, repeats this for a year
08/24/05 21:07:32 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm not sure of the exact reason, but I've seen her plants & it is definitely working
08/24/05 21:07:58 Tina_in_CO: well then it would not be a soilless mix than
08/24/05 21:08:22 Jana_in_Indiana: no, it's definitely not soiless
08/24/05 21:08:48 Jana_in_Indiana: contains compost & manure
08/24/05 21:09:28 Tina_in_CO: hmm will have to think about this one a moment
08/24/05 21:09:54 Cheryl-TX: Azomite is natural mined rock from a specific volcanic deposit , just found that
08/24/05 21:10:23 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, info is on the net about it, also order it on the net or e-bay
08/24/05 21:10:29 Cheryl-TX: http://wheatgrasskits.com/organicsoil.htm  here is some more info on it
08/24/05 21:10:42 Jana_in_Indiana: do you have the list of everything in it Cheryl?  It's a long list
08/24/05 21:11:05 Cheryl-TX: sounds interesting, here again, like red lava sand it is volcanic
08/24/05 21:11:06 Jana_in_Indiana: same store sells on ebay too (wheatgress kits)
08/24/05 21:12:08 Cheryl-TX: i guess volcanic products have lots of trace elements
08/24/05 21:12:17 Jana_in_Indiana: makes sense
08/24/05 21:13:17 Cheryl-TX: its says it sells for 2 lbs for 4.95, i guess it would worth a try
08/24/05 21:13:55 Cheryl-TX: but i think i would want to start out with a plain mix and add some and then just try it on a few plants
08/24/05 21:14:17 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, that sounds like a good idea
08/24/05 21:14:34 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl, I'll trade you some azomite for red lava sand!
08/24/05 21:14:38 Cheryl-TX: wonder how much you would use
08/24/05 21:14:48 Cheryl-TX: sounds like a deal
08/24/05 21:14:56 Cheryl-TX: will mail some this weekend
08/24/05 21:15:17 Jana_in_Indiana: haven't used it yet so don't know but since Pat uses 2 Tablespoons of most the other things I'd start there
08/24/05 21:15:24 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks
08/24/05 21:15:58 Jana_in_Indiana: also plan to mix some with neutral R/O water & see what the pH is first
08/24/05 21:17:15 Cheryl-TX: yes each time you add something you change pH
08/24/05 21:17:30 Cheryl-TX: brb
08/24/05 21:17:32 Jana_in_Indiana: right, don't want a nutrient lock up
08/24/05 21:17:36 Tina_in_CO: Jana let me know what the ph is
08/24/05 21:17:40 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
08/24/05 21:17:46 Tina_in_CO: thank you
08/24/05 21:18:25 Brenda___Al Disconnects
08/24/05 21:19:35 Jana_in_Indiana: looking for my dipsticks now
08/24/05 21:21:18 Brenda___Al Logs in [12.217.40.181]
08/24/05 21:21:35 Tina_in_CO: LOL
08/24/05 21:22:35 Jana_in_Indiana: FYI, pH of distilled & R/O water is the smae, acidic
08/24/05 21:22:54 Tina_in_CO: found azomite on ebay but in 5 lb bags LOL
08/24/05 21:24:29 Cheryl-TX: how much was a five pound bag
08/24/05 21:25:26 Tina_in_CO: $9.99
08/24/05 21:25:35 Jana_in_Indiana: the pH of tap water registered the same, I'm thinking I need to get new dipsticks!  No way these 3 are the same, LOL
08/24/05 21:25:53 Den_in_FL Logs Out
08/24/05 21:25:55 sherry__(Mo): how much is shipping>
08/24/05 21:26:02 Cheryl-TX: so it is about 2-2.50 a lb
08/24/05 21:26:15 Tina_in_CO: let me look
08/24/05 21:26:25 Jana_in_Indiana: but when adding the azomite, it did raise the pH a little, still going to get new dipsticks & check again, not trusting these
08/24/05 21:26:47 Cheryl-TX: does anyone use charchol?
08/24/05 21:26:49 Den_in_FL Logs in [209.208.77.108]
08/24/05 21:26:57 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, but not sure why I am, LOL
08/24/05 21:27:01 Jana_in_Indiana: WB Den
08/24/05 21:27:12 Cheryl-TX: it is supposed to sweeten the soil
08/24/05 21:27:14 Tina_in_CO: ouch $8.50
08/24/05 21:27:16 sherry__(Mo): I use it-when I remeber
08/24/05 21:27:29 Tina_in_CO: Yes I do
08/24/05 21:27:48 Cheryl-TX: i use about a cup to 10 lbs of mix, also use it in dish gardens
08/24/05 21:27:48 Jana_in_Indiana: it occured to me that none of the greenhouses buy or use it, that's why I can't get it in bulk!  If they don't have a use for it, do we really need it?
08/24/05 21:28:16 Jana_in_Indiana: haven't tried mixing soil without it though
08/24/05 21:28:26 Cheryl-TX: it ? which it are we talking about
08/24/05 21:28:30 Den_in_FL Logs Out
08/24/05 21:28:51 Tina_in_CO: well those who are orgainic gardeners would use it
08/24/05 21:28:58 Millie_Ca: Sorry But the phone is ringing off the hook. My younger daughter is getting married Sat. In three days I may get near a normal life but Hospital visits remain every other day. I want to work with her as much as I can Love you all and thanks for all your lo
08/24/05 21:29:02 Jana_in_Indiana: charcoal
08/24/05 21:29:16 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Millie!
08/24/05 21:29:23 Cheryl-TX: like i said before millie y ou are a woman of steel
08/24/05 21:29:26 Brenda___Al: nite
08/24/05 21:29:28 Millie_Ca: Night all
08/24/05 21:29:28 Tina_in_CO: night mille
08/24/05 21:29:32 Millie_Ca Logs Out
08/24/05 21:30:16 Cheryl-TX: i have gotten potted plants with bits of charcoal in the mix
08/24/05 21:30:54 sherry__(Mo): It's starting to storm here-so I'm going to call it a night
08/24/05 21:30:59 Tina_in_CO: yes it is in most mixes that I have seen
08/24/05 21:31:05 Tina_in_CO: night Sherry
08/24/05 21:31:07 sherry__(Mo): Take care everyone!!
08/24/05 21:31:09 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Sherry!
08/24/05 21:31:13 Cheryl-TX: well we have not covered all the things you can put in your soil , but i  must go, i have to finish a power point for class tomorrow
08/24/05 21:31:13 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out
08/24/05 21:31:27 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Cheryl!
08/24/05 21:31:28 Tina_in_CO: thank you cheryl
08/24/05 21:31:35 Brenda___Al: nite
08/24/05 21:31:37 goj62(Judi): I use charcoal in all my plants plus violets
08/24/05 21:31:50 Cheryl-TX: I will see you all next week, maybe we ought to read jans post and then kick this around some more next week
08/24/05 21:32:17 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, didn't know about Jan's post
08/24/05 21:32:23 Brenda___Al: ok with me
08/24/05 21:32:47 goj62(Judi): keeps soil from souring or that what I was told years ago especially where water doesn,t drain out of pot
08/24/05 21:32:49 Cheryl-TX: jana, your info on additives are you going to post it
08/24/05 21:33:09 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, ok!  Sorry for being stupid!  Not feeling well
08/24/05 21:33:16 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, I'll post it
08/24/05 21:33:36 Jana_in_Indiana: that's what I thought too Judi
08/24/05 21:33:46 Cheryl-TX: you are one of the sharpest people i know jana, sick or no
08/24/05 21:34:00 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks, but it's not true!  LOL
08/24/05 21:34:10 Brenda___Al: is too lol
08/24/05 21:34:25 Cheryl-TX: well  you talk a good game then jana.... lol
08/24/05 21:34:26 goj62(Judi): hey I,m a new one at this  just learning   the hard way
08/24/05 21:34:32 Jana_in_Indiana: better save that bull for your soil!
08/24/05 21:34:38 Cheryl-TX: ok night see you all next week
08/24/05 21:34:43 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite!
08/24/05 21:34:46 Cheryl-TX Logs Out
08/24/05 21:35:38 Brenda___Al: got couple questions
08/24/05 21:35:42 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
08/24/05 21:36:25 Brenda___Al: leaves coming...do i fill each cell with soil and plant every other one
08/24/05 21:36:40 Jana_in_Indiana: how many leaves are coming?
08/24/05 21:36:53 Jana_in_Indiana: & how many cells?
08/24/05 21:36:54 Brenda___Al: about 50
08/24/05 21:37:00 Brenda___Al: 72
08/24/05 21:37:24 Jana_in_Indiana: I try to keep all leaves from a single vendor in one try -- to prevent cross coontamination by disease or pests
08/24/05 21:37:31 Tina_in_CO: that would work Brenda especially depending on the size of your leaves
08/24/05 21:37:53 Jana_in_Indiana: also try to leave the openings on the 4 sides open -- leaves can get crowded with the dome
08/24/05 21:38:17 Tina_in_CO: I try not to crowd them too much so they have some air circulation an prevent rot
08/24/05 21:38:17 Jana_in_Indiana: set the leaves diagonally they'll fit better
08/24/05 21:38:40 Tina_in_CO: I like them to have a little room for the babies to grow too
08/24/05 21:38:53 Jana_in_Indiana: right
08/24/05 21:38:57 Brenda___Al: do I add marathon to leaves....keep telling me anything I need to know
08/24/05 21:39:19 Jana_in_Indiana: I don't use it when putting down leaves or the first time I pot up
08/24/05 21:39:37 Jana_in_Indiana: Marathon that is
08/24/05 21:40:02 Brenda___Al: ok do I fill all cells with soil...got it lol
08/24/05 21:40:18 Jana_in_Indiana: I do have an e-mail I wrote up for someone else, tell lots of stuff -- want me to send it to you?  Or did I?
08/24/05 21:40:22 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, fill them
08/24/05 21:40:34 Jana_in_Indiana: even the ones you plan to leave empty
08/24/05 21:40:38 Brenda___Al: send it on and thank you
08/24/05 21:40:51 Jana_in_Indiana: remind me of your e-mail please?
08/24/05 21:41:10 Brenda___Al: bcdragonfly48@yahoo.com
08/24/05 21:41:35 Brenda___Al: I'll be quite for a minute now
08/24/05 21:41:39 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks!  Brain not really in gear!  LOL
08/24/05 21:42:26 Tina_in_CO: it is ok Brenda keep asking
08/24/05 21:42:53 Jana_in_Indiana: if you have Q's, ask them!  That's what we're here for!
08/24/05 21:43:08 Tina_in_CO: I fill all my cells even if I don't use them I think it helps keep all the cells equally moist
08/24/05 21:43:12 Jana_in_Indiana: that goes for Deb & Judi too!
08/24/05 21:43:13 goj62(Judi): ????please
08/24/05 21:43:39 Jana_in_Indiana: I agree Tina, also help the mat watering be more even
08/24/05 21:43:47 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Judi!
08/24/05 21:43:59 Tina_in_CO: yes will provide even humidity if domed also
08/24/05 21:44:38 Jana_in_Indiana: and if I break off a 'good' leaf accidentially, there's a place to put it -- quick & easy!
08/24/05 21:44:39 Tina_in_CO: Jana what trays do you use
08/24/05 21:44:42 goj62(Judi): I have one violet thathas bloomed just beutiful before and now it,s blooming some and is full of buds but they are not opening as they should
08/24/05 21:45:03 goj62(Judi): sort of just shrinking up
08/24/05 21:45:13 Jana_in_Indiana: seedling trays, fit black trays, but I use permanest trays w/ elevate mat watering
08/24/05 21:45:24 Jana_in_Indiana: http://community.webshots.com/user/janainindiana
08/24/05 21:45:30 Tina_in_CO: did you have a big flux in your tems
08/24/05 21:45:38 Jana_in_Indiana: have strp by step photos of it in my album
08/24/05 21:45:39 Tina_in_CO: yes I saw them that is why I asked
08/24/05 21:45:45 Tina_in_CO: where did you get them
08/24/05 21:46:28 Jana_in_Indiana: Judi, how's your humidity?
08/24/05 21:47:29 goj62(Judi): this plant is in the kitchen widow right over the sink
08/24/05 21:47:31 Jana_in_Indiana: seedling trays & domes for black trays are sold everywhere, even Walmart - but I use the shorter smaller cells, get at my greenhouse supplier pretty cheap (1 to 1.50 each I think)
08/24/05 21:48:31 Tina_in_CO: where do you get your permanest trays Jana
08/24/05 21:48:44 Jana_in_Indiana: just checked, they're $1.50 each, let me know if you need some.  If I get a dozen or more thhink they're cheaper
08/24/05 21:48:56 Tina_in_CO: hmm did it get more sun or heat that usual Judi?
08/24/05 21:49:03 Jana_in_Indiana: got them from Cape Cod & Windy City Violets
08/24/05 21:49:07 Tina_in_CO: when was the last time you repotted it
08/24/05 21:49:25 goj62(Judi): no not really
08/24/05 21:49:40 Jana_in_Indiana: could the blossoms have powdery mildew?
08/24/05 21:50:04 Tina_in_CO: Do you know who makes he permanest trays Jana
08/24/05 21:50:25 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony has a catalog from them with wholesale prices Tina
08/24/05 21:50:29 goj62(Judi): how do I tell about that
08/24/05 21:50:34 Tina_in_CO: what fertilizer do you use and how much do you use Judi
08/24/05 21:50:40 Jana_in_Indiana: looks like white fine powder
08/24/05 21:50:41 Brenda___Al: Judi have you been using safer soap or stuff like that
08/24/05 21:50:45 adgjoan Logs in [12.203.138.143]
08/24/05 21:50:51 goj62(Judi): may need repotted
08/24/05 21:50:53 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Joan
08/24/05 21:50:56 goj62(Judi): no
08/24/05 21:51:05 Tina_in_CO: do you know the websit Jana
08/24/05 21:51:17 Jana_in_Indiana: how long has it been since repotted Judi?
08/24/05 21:51:22 adgjoan: Hi all have i missed much?
08/24/05 21:51:27 Deb_in_IA: night all, hubby wants to check mail
08/24/05 21:51:28 Jana_in_Indiana: no Tina, sorry, write tony
08/24/05 21:51:37 Deb_in_IA Logs Out
08/24/05 21:51:37 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Deb
08/24/05 21:51:53 goj62(Judi): it,s been quite awile like about a year
08/24/05 21:52:37 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I'll bet the pH has changed -- peat breaks down & alters it, making it impossible for the roots to take in nutrients
08/24/05 21:52:53 goj62(Judi): was full of blooms just a month ago  took pitures of it
08/24/05 21:53:30 Tina_in_CO: ok thank you Jana
08/24/05 21:53:32 Jana_in_Indiana: repot removing as much soil as possible, inspect roots & soil for any & everything, then dome or bag for 2 weeks
08/24/05 21:54:05 Jana_in_Indiana: might need to remove a row of leaves depending on how much you disturb the roots
08/24/05 21:54:09 Tina_in_CO: Yes I think it needs to be repotted Judi and may not be getting the nutrients it needs
08/24/05 21:54:41 goj62(Judi): full of leafs for sure  this plant is large
08/24/05 21:55:00 Jana_in_Indiana: sounds beautiful!
08/24/05 21:55:41 goj62(Judi): leafs are healthy and good color
08/24/05 21:56:21 adgjoan: what is the name of the plant?
08/24/05 21:56:24 goj62(Judi): have it on disk will try to sent to you on email
08/24/05 21:57:04 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks!
08/24/05 21:57:11 goj62(Judi): good ???? wish I knew the name of it   got at wal mart last year or so
08/24/05 21:57:50 adgjoan: how about a description?
08/24/05 21:57:54 goj62(Judi): It,s a pinish.purple with white in the center
08/24/05 21:58:10 adgjoan: nice
08/24/05 21:58:46 Jana_in_Indiana: Brenda, gotta resend that info on putting down leaves, AOL isn't in the mood to send e-mails right now! :<
08/24/05 21:59:17 Brenda___Al: yahoo isn't behaving tonight either
08/24/05 21:59:24 goj62(Judi): pinkish/ purple
08/24/05 21:59:57 Jana_in_Indiana: probably will have to sign off & back on to send it, sorry!
08/24/05 22:00:55 Brenda___Al: later is fine..slow down Jana
08/24/05 22:02:56 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks Brenda
08/24/05 22:03:10 Brenda___Al: I'm so excited about getting these leaves. Feel like a kid.
08/24/05 22:03:40 Jana_in_Indiana: where did you order them?
08/24/05 22:03:40 adgjoan: what are you getting, Brenda?
08/24/05 22:04:17 Brenda___Al: Just a small order from Cedar Creek, they had a sale
08/24/05 22:04:24 goj62(Judi): don,t forget you twin when they get big
08/24/05 22:04:29 Jana_in_Indiana: Brenda, remember -- if there are sticky labels on the baggies, you can peel them off & use on your tags, really saves time
08/24/05 22:04:56 Jana_in_Indiana: samll order???  50 Leaves is small to you???  :D
08/24/05 22:04:59 Tina_in_CO: yes it does
08/24/05 22:05:20 Brenda___Al: I hope they have them. How long would popsickle sticks hold up
08/24/05 22:05:36 Tina_in_CO: that sounds like lots of leaves to me you will end up with probably about 200 plants when all is said and done LOL
08/24/05 22:05:39 Brenda___Al: Buy one get one free
08/24/05 22:05:45 Tina_in_CO: there you go
08/24/05 22:06:19 Brenda___Al: Sennding the other150 to Judi lol
08/24/05 22:06:28 goj62(Judi): just hope you have better luck with leaves than I do
08/24/05 22:06:43 Jana_in_Indiana: I tried the popscicle sticks, but the wood molds easily
08/24/05 22:07:08 Brenda___Al: I got faith in rooting leaves
08/24/05 22:07:08 Jana_in_Indiana: might grab some plastic labels if you can
08/24/05 22:07:15 Tina_in_CO: LOL
08/24/05 22:07:32 Brenda___Al: will do Jana
08/24/05 22:07:46 adgjoan: yes they do mold .  after a while lhey rot also
08/24/05 22:07:49 Jana_in_Indiana: faith & persistence are all you need, try, try again!
08/24/05 22:08:16 Jana_in_Indiana: right Joan, that's why I have a box of 2,000 sitting here, LOL
08/24/05 22:08:22 Tina_in_CO: I buy large white plastic garden labels and cut them smaller and write on them in pencil then just erase and reuse them when needed.  I do bleach them first LOL
08/24/05 22:08:25 Jana_in_Indiana: 2,000 plastic labels
08/24/05 22:09:56 goj62(Judi): I payed almost 4.00 for 25 labels at wal mart  won,t do that again
08/24/05 22:10:17 Brenda___Al: maybe one of the cats could tear up a blind tonight lol
08/24/05 22:10:54 goj62(Judi): yea that,ll work
08/24/05 22:10:58 adgjoan: LOL lol
08/24/05 22:11:02 Jana_in_Indiana: or, you could go & look for the oldest, dirtiest one, use it & get another!
08/24/05 22:11:20 Jana_in_Indiana: Tina, just sent you something
08/24/05 22:11:31 Brenda___Al: they are all dirty!!!
08/24/05 22:11:51 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, then they need to be replaced -- right?
08/24/05 22:11:57 Brenda___Al: right
08/24/05 22:12:47 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry, AOL completely lockeed up,  gotta go offf & come baaack
08/24/05 22:12:50 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out
08/24/05 22:12:51 Tina_in_CO: thank you Jana
08/24/05 22:13:03 adgjoan: I read some one cuts a solo cup in strips to use as name tags.
08/24/05 22:13:18 goj62(Judi): wish I had ordered some from Jana will next time I order
08/24/05 22:13:21 Tina_in_CO: yes that would work too
08/24/05 22:13:22 Brenda___Al: that sounds ood
08/24/05 22:13:33 Brenda___Al: good
08/24/05 22:13:52 Brenda___Al: same here Judi
08/24/05 22:14:14 Tina_in_CO: your using cell trays right?
08/24/05 22:14:23 Brenda___Al: right
08/24/05 22:14:36 Tina_in_CO: if you you plastic solo cups you can just write on the side of the pot
08/24/05 22:14:53 Tina_in_CO: yes plastic sticks would be best then
08/24/05 22:15:01 adgjoan: that is what I do
08/24/05 22:15:08 Brenda___Al: would be to easy that way!!!
08/24/05 22:15:59 Tina_in_CO: of course LOL
08/24/05 22:16:03 Brenda___Al: that is how I do it, but decided to use tray because of the dome
08/24/05 22:16:11 adgjoan: Brenda are these the only leaves you ordered this year?
08/24/05 22:16:23 Tina_in_CO: I get like the 8" I think and cut them in 2 " segments and use them LOL
08/24/05 22:16:32 Brenda___Al: yes
08/24/05 22:17:16 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.195.185.198]
08/24/05 22:17:31 Tina_in_CO: yes I like that method but just watch how much humidity in them builds up and keep the dome dry
08/24/05 22:17:44 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry about that
08/24/05 22:17:47 Brenda___Al: good evening...can we help ou Jana
08/24/05 22:18:01 Tina_in_CO: I have my soil just moist them pot up my leaves and let it sit undomed overnight then dome it
08/24/05 22:18:06 Jana_in_Indiana: sure, help all you want!  LOL
08/24/05 22:18:06 Tina_in_CO: WB Jana
08/24/05 22:18:13 Brenda___Al: lol
08/24/05 22:18:27 Tina_in_CO: lol
08/24/05 22:18:35 adgjoan: lol
08/24/05 22:18:37 Brenda___Al: thanks Tina
08/24/05 22:18:51 Jana_in_Indiana: trying to send it again Brenda
08/24/05 22:19:55 Brenda___Al: ok...you just not going to give up
08/24/05 22:20:13 Jana_in_Indiana: nope!  ;)
08/24/05 22:21:35 Brenda___Al: can I go ahead and put the soil in the trays..leaves suppose to be here tomorrow or fri
08/24/05 22:21:35 Jana_in_Indiana: any more Q's?
08/24/05 22:22:01 Jana_in_Indiana: I do it ahead of time Brenda, makes life easier the day they arrive
08/24/05 22:22:15 Tina_in_CO: yes you can brenda
08/24/05 22:22:20 Brenda___Al: goodie
08/24/05 22:22:38 Jana_in_Indiana: don't try filling each cell individually, dump a pile of soil in the center & just spread it with your hand
08/24/05 22:23:01 adgjoan: Jana, have you been usine Hi-Fresh on the cut ends of leaves when you put them down?
08/24/05 22:23:03 Brenda___Al: souds like fun
08/24/05 22:23:11 Jana_in_Indiana: you'll fill all those cells in 2 minutes!
08/24/05 22:23:38 Brenda___Al: already sprayed with avid
08/24/05 22:23:42 Jana_in_Indiana: not on the end I am rooting, but on the upper parts when making wedges, works wonderfully
08/24/05 22:24:17 Tina_in_CO: I put just a tiny amount on the rooting end
08/24/05 22:24:27 Tina_in_CO: barely enough to even see.
08/24/05 22:24:48 adgjoan: I have been using the hi=fresh and have lost less leaves this year.  do you know where to get more hi-fresh?
08/24/05 22:24:52 Jana_in_Indiana: does it help Tina?
08/24/05 22:25:06 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, Kiko in Japan!  LOL
08/24/05 22:25:28 Tina_in_CO: what I actually do is ut the top of the container and shake it on the top to get powder to coat it then just dab the fesh cut end on that so you barely get any
08/24/05 22:25:36 Jana_in_Indiana: got about 2 lbs. from her last spring, Pat got 1 of them
08/24/05 22:25:39 Tina_in_CO: Yes I think it does
08/24/05 22:25:54 adgjoan: how do you get hold of her?
08/24/05 22:26:05 Tina_in_CO: I think it helps as long as the end is not totally covered
08/24/05 22:26:32 Jana_in_Indiana: I did notice it sucks up a lot of water
08/24/05 22:26:55 adgjoan: I am using to much then. thanks for the tip, Tina
08/24/05 22:27:01 Tina_in_CO: what soaks up a lot of water Jana
08/24/05 22:27:34 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Fresh, accidentially got water on the lid I had it on & it sucked it up pretty fast
08/24/05 22:27:44 Tina_in_CO: yes just a very light amount I wouldn't even call it a dusting.  You know the saying too much of a good thing could be bad
08/24/05 22:27:59 Jana_in_Indiana: so very right tina!
08/24/05 22:28:15 adgjoan: where did you get yours,Tina?
08/24/05 22:28:15 Tina_in_CO: oh really I knew there was a good reason not to cover the end solid LOL
08/24/05 22:28:36 Tina_in_CO: I think I got mine from Millie who got it from Kiko
08/24/05 22:29:03 Tina_in_CO: yes as the postmaster came to her house wanting to know what the strange white powder was LOL
08/24/05 22:29:28 adgjoan: Jana, how much did it cost to get the 2#?
08/24/05 22:29:54 Jana_in_Indiana: just under $20 for a kilo I *think*
08/24/05 22:30:02 Tina_in_CO: I will ask kiko about it when we do a trade in sept
08/24/05 22:30:09 Tina_in_CO: maybe we can get some more.
08/24/05 22:30:25 Tina_in_CO: a little lasts a long time I find
08/24/05 22:30:49 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, it does last forever!
08/24/05 22:31:23 adgjoan: I do want more.  maybe mine will last longer since you told me to use much less.LOL
08/24/05 22:32:54 Tina_in_CO: yes i was given a couple tablespoons and i still have most of it left after a year LOL
08/24/05 22:33:16 Jana_in_Indiana: woo hoo!  It finally sent Brenda!
08/24/05 22:33:41 Brenda___Al: alright...now you can rest
08/24/05 22:33:51 Jana_in_Indiana: lol
08/24/05 22:33:59 Tina_in_CO: the reason I use so little is I once had a vendor send me leaves with something like high fresh on the ends and the instructions said not to take it off and just plant.  Big mistake most rotted so that is why I use so little
08/24/05 22:34:10 Tina_in_CO: your duty is done Jana
08/24/05 22:34:36 Jana_in_Indiana: great!  Now I can go back to bed?
08/24/05 22:34:46 Brenda___Al: YES
08/24/05 22:35:25 Jana_in_Indiana: umm, no!  Haven't read any mail or group messages
08/24/05 22:35:40 Brenda___Al: where has Tony been lately
08/24/05 22:36:00 Jana_in_Indiana: don't know, need to call him & see what's up
08/24/05 22:36:24 Tina_in_CO: I haven't seen him posting lately either. hope all is well
08/24/05 22:37:08 Brenda___Al: wasn't in chat last night
08/24/05 22:37:38 Jana_in_Indiana: too late to call now, will call him tomorrow
08/24/05 22:37:47 Jana_in_Indiana: he's an early bird
08/24/05 22:39:14 Brenda___Al: I'm going...got email to read lol nite ladies. thanks for all the help
08/24/05 22:39:18 Brenda___Al Logs Out
08/24/05 22:39:24 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Brenda
08/24/05 22:39:27 Jana_in_Indiana: oops!
08/24/05 22:39:28 goj62(Judi): me too so had better get to bed
08/24/05 22:39:30 Tina_in_CO: night brenda
08/24/05 22:39:38 Jana_in_Indiana: I'd better go get stuff read too!
08/24/05 22:39:42 Tina_in_CO: I suppose I ought to go also LOL
08/24/05 22:39:50 Tina_in_CO: well then we are off to read LOL
08/24/05 22:39:51 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Joan, Judi & Tina!
08/24/05 22:39:55 adgjoan: g'night all
08/24/05 22:39:55 Tina_in_CO: nite all have a great night
08/24/05 22:40:00 goj62(Judi): nite everyone
08/24/05 22:40:01 adgjoan Logs Out
08/24/05 22:40:01 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out
08/24/05 22:40:30 goj62(Judi) Logs Out
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