07/7/05 19:37:34 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
07/7/05 19:37:38 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.147.34.252]
07/7/05 19:37:59 Tony__IL: early again, Jana
07/7/05 19:38:06 Jana_in_Indiana: you beat me!
07/7/05 19:38:10 Jana_in_Indiana: :P
07/7/05 19:38:45 Tony__IL: still no price list. Also will have to find a supplier for pots
07/7/05 19:39:24 Jana_in_Indiana: I think I have a link for that, isn't it novosel? or something like that?  Might give a discount for large amounts
07/7/05 19:39:24 Tony__IL: price list for the trays
07/7/05 19:40:20 Tony__IL: will check them out. Most have the 4" pots and larger but not smaller
07/7/05 19:41:03 Jana_in_Indiana: Novosel Enterprise (pots, etc): http://www.novoselenterprises.com
07/7/05 19:41:20 Jana_in_Indiana: I think this place has got the smaller ones
07/7/05 19:41:38 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll send you the supplierslist I have
07/7/05 19:41:53 Tony__IL: they have 4" + but may email them and ask
07/7/05 19:42:28 Tony__IL: the local nursery could only get them in black ?? Go figure
07/7/05 19:42:35 Jana_in_Indiana: really?  I thought they had smaller ones
07/7/05 19:43:08 Jana_in_Indiana: also, violet showcase offers a discount for large amounts, like for club orders etc, have to send for that price list
07/7/05 19:43:10 Tony__IL: not listed anyway on the web site
07/7/05 19:43:25 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
07/7/05 19:43:58 Tony__IL: looking for their wholesaler LOL
07/7/05 19:44:26 Tony__IL: I want them really cheap
07/7/05 19:46:05 Tony__IL: will see my aunt and uncle on Sat. from CA. Maybe they can find something
07/7/05 19:46:54 Jana_in_Indiana: they have the 2 1/4 X 2 1/4 round ones
07/7/05 19:47:18 Tony__IL: will check them out tomorrow
07/7/05 19:47:34 Jana_in_Indiana: and of course the larger ones
07/7/05 19:48:13 Tony__IL: 2 plants per pot. Maybe save some space?
07/7/05 19:48:16 Jana_in_Indiana: and 2", 2 1/2", 3", 3 1/2", etc
07/7/05 19:48:34 Jana_in_Indiana: no thanks!  YOU can try that!
07/7/05 19:48:37 Tony__IL: Violet Showcase you are talking about ?
07/7/05 19:49:34 Jana_in_Indiana: no, novosel, also has square starting at 2 1/4 "
07/7/05 19:49:45 Tony__IL: If you are just starting a business, how do you find suppliers?
07/7/05 19:50:45 Tony__IL: unless you can spend a LOT of time doing web searches
07/7/05 19:51:06 Jana_in_Indiana: heck if I know!
07/7/05 19:51:19 Tony__IL: did get hold someone who may be able to help out with the boxes
07/7/05 19:51:40 Jana_in_Indiana: good
07/7/05 19:51:45 Tony__IL: cross my fingers
07/7/05 19:51:50 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
07/7/05 19:52:08 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll check my supplier too, but they're gone on vacation till the 13th
07/7/05 19:52:57 Tony__IL: says he gets a couple hundred at a time
07/7/05 19:53:55 Jana_in_Indiana: depends, the square 'economy' post are in cases of 2,000!
07/7/05 19:54:14 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll get a case of them next week, once they come back from vacation
07/7/05 19:54:39 Tony__IL: will have to ask if the group has preference to suare ones or round pots
07/7/05 19:55:29 Jana_in_Indiana: right
07/7/05 19:55:35 Tony__IL: can you get more square ones in a tray?
07/7/05 19:55:45 Jana_in_Indiana: depends on size
07/7/05 19:55:59 Jana_in_Indiana: I prefer the square ones, don't tip over as easliy
07/7/05 19:56:11 Tony__IL: taking it they are the same size?
07/7/05 19:56:20 Jana_in_Indiana: remember when you asked me about pot volumes, square VS round?
07/7/05 19:56:31 Tony__IL: ok
07/7/05 19:56:43 Jana_in_Indiana: I have a file that shows the volumes too!
07/7/05 19:57:04 Tony__IL: square should be a little larger, I would think
07/7/05 19:57:57 Jana_in_Indiana: me too, LOL
07/7/05 19:58:01 Jana_in_Indiana: just sent it to you
07/7/05 19:58:10 Tony__IL: but a TBSP. wouldn't matter that much. LOL
07/7/05 19:58:17 Jana_in_Indiana: right
07/7/05 19:58:35 Jana_in_Indiana: you'll probably have to scroll to make it larger to read, I had to
07/7/05 19:58:37 Tony__IL: I spill more than that on the floor
07/7/05 19:58:53 Jana_in_Indiana: me too!  LOL
07/7/05 20:00:14 Tony__IL: how long does it take for the Gel2Root to show roots?
07/7/05 20:00:57 Jana_in_Indiana: 2 weeks
07/7/05 20:01:08 Jana_in_Indiana: or sooner, depending on temp
07/7/05 20:01:20 Jana_in_Indiana: but the roots look like tiny cracks in the gel
07/7/05 20:01:42 Jana_in_Indiana: I had to hold them up to the light to see they were actually roots
07/7/05 20:01:50 Tony__IL: well, it's been plenty warm lately
07/7/05 20:01:58 Jana_in_Indiana: no A/C?
07/7/05 20:02:20 Tony__IL: yes, but too cheap to use it unless over 95 or 100
07/7/05 20:02:40 Jana_in_Indiana: OMG!  I'm glad I came in the fall!  I would have died!
07/7/05 20:03:02 Jana_in_Indiana: I turned mine on in March, LOL
07/7/05 20:03:16 Okie Logs in [68.12.244.136]
07/7/05 20:03:19 Tony__IL: holy cow, March ?
07/7/05 20:03:26 Okie: Hi Jana and Tony
07/7/05 20:03:29 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Okie!
07/7/05 20:03:30 Tony__IL: hi Charlene
07/7/05 20:03:42 Okie: Jana did you get my final order email?
07/7/05 20:03:47 Okie: LOL
07/7/05 20:03:51 Okie: we hope it is final
07/7/05 20:03:58 Okie: :p
07/7/05 20:04:04 Jana_in_Indiana: well, didn't runit constantly, but had to when it's over 80 inside -- meds cause me to have heat strokes very easily
07/7/05 20:04:20 Jana_in_Indiana: I sent you a reply, did you get it?
07/7/05 20:04:49 Okie: checking, my computer
07/7/05 20:04:52 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
07/7/05 20:04:57 Okie: s wireless is having trouble
07/7/05 20:05:36 Jana_in_Indiana: I check all your e-mails & tried to get it all onto ones, you double check everything
07/7/05 20:06:04 Jana_in_Indiana: (I don't speak like that!  LOL )
07/7/05 20:06:31 Tony__IL: but they do in OK. LOL
07/7/05 20:07:00 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.152.137.88]
07/7/05 20:07:08 Tony__IL: hi Sherry
07/7/05 20:07:21 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sherry!
07/7/05 20:07:23 sherry__(Mo): Hi Jana, Tony, and Charlene!!
07/7/05 20:07:55 Jana_in_Indiana: Okie is checking e-mails
07/7/05 20:08:13 Tony__IL: did you have your meeting today with the others or is that later, Sherry
07/7/05 20:08:40 sherry__(Mo): Yep-it was today. I think we wore poor Sue out-I think she
07/7/05 20:08:51 sherry__(Mo): sshe's 87
07/7/05 20:09:17 Tony__IL: probably had a lot of fun meeting you
07/7/05 20:09:48 sherry__(Mo): Yep-I enjoyed it and I think they enjoyed looking at Sue's plants
07/7/05 20:10:05 Jana_in_Indiana: who is Sue?
07/7/05 20:10:28 sherry__(Mo): She was embarrassed because she has been spending more time with the ones out side instead of the ones inside
07/7/05 20:10:50 sherry__(Mo): Sue Hill-she's a master judge here and started several of the local clubs
07/7/05 20:11:14 Jana_in_Indiana: great! Is she a member of any of the yahoo groups?
07/7/05 20:11:50 sherry__(Mo): None of the AV groups, I don't think-maybe AV Connection
07/7/05 20:11:51 Jana_in_Indiana: Anngela wanted me to ask you -- how far are you from the zoo (St. Louis I think)
07/7/05 20:12:23 Jana_in_Indiana: she wants to come see the pandas
07/7/05 20:12:26 Tony__IL: learn anything new from Sue?
07/7/05 20:12:29 sherry__(Mo): We've got the Swope Park Zoo in KC-about 4 hours to ST Louis-I think
07/7/05 20:13:09 sherry__(Mo): Sue is always filled with information-and has different gessies-I can't pronounce most of the names thougj
07/7/05 20:13:37 Shellie_CA Logs in [172.197.236.79]
07/7/05 20:13:39 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, who can????????
07/7/05 20:13:42 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Shellie!
07/7/05 20:13:47 Tony__IL: hi Shellie
07/7/05 20:14:00 Shellie_CA: Good evening
07/7/05 20:14:03 sherry__(Mo): I think Barb and Clare are going to the HAGS (gessies) meeting this month!
07/7/05 20:14:07 Okie Disconnects
07/7/05 20:14:08 sherry__(Mo): Hi Shellie
07/7/05 20:14:16 Jana_in_Indiana: cool
07/7/05 20:14:27 sherry__(Mo): Was Charlene looking for anything special?
07/7/05 20:14:57 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, my e-mail, LOL
07/7/05 20:15:04 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/7/05 20:15:47 sherry__(Mo): How's everything going Shellie?
07/7/05 20:15:54 Jana_in_Indiana: she sent me 3 different e-mails asking for different supplies, I complied them into one, I think & sent it back for her to double check
07/7/05 20:16:04 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/7/05 20:16:31 Shellie_CA: everything is going OK
07/7/05 20:16:36 sherry__(Mo): Good idea having her double check!
07/7/05 20:17:01 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, I always do that, just to be sake
07/7/05 20:17:05 Jana_in_Indiana: safe*
07/7/05 20:17:15 Tony__IL: also wondering what the mark=up is on the chemicals?
07/7/05 20:17:18 Jana_in_Indiana: I have your revised order Shellie
07/7/05 20:17:31 Shellie_CA: great
07/7/05 20:17:54 Jana_in_Indiana: I don't know how much they mark them up Tony, I just pay whatever I have to, LOL!
07/7/05 20:18:21 Shellie_CA: I forgot to buy 4 trash cans today to store all the ingredients in
07/7/05 20:18:32 Tony__IL: probably about 30% to 50%
07/7/05 20:18:48 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, I use the rectangle tubs with lids, easier for me to store the soil
07/7/05 20:18:59 Jana_in_Indiana: nothing would shock me Mr. T!
07/7/05 20:19:09 sherry__(Mo): Jana, I haven't forgotten about ordering from you-just haven't gotten around to it
07/7/05 20:19:31 Jana_in_Indiana: I figure you'll let me know when & if you need something, LOL!
07/7/05 20:19:34 Shellie_CA: I will use them for the smaller stuff and to mix the potting mix in
07/7/05 20:19:47 Jana_in_Indiana: same here
07/7/05 20:20:28 sherry__(Mo): Still haven't gotten your snail mail yet Tony?
07/7/05 20:20:52 Tony__IL: not yet :(
07/7/05 20:21:18 Tony__IL: she said it was sent on the 28th, so hope soon
07/7/05 20:21:34 sherry__(Mo): They sent Rod's medicine out last week-he finally got it today. Maybe the holiday messed the post office up
07/7/05 20:21:42 Jana_in_Indiana: dang!  Yahoo is messed up tonight!  Just a few minutes ago posted the reminder for chat!
07/7/05 20:21:46 Shellie_CA: the bags of perlite, vermiculite, promix and compost will be stored in the traxh cans
07/7/05 20:21:55 Shellie_CA: trash
07/7/05 20:22:01 Jana_in_Indiana: they don't need a holiday to be messed up!  :P
07/7/05 20:22:35 Tony__IL: retraining when they get back LOL
07/7/05 20:22:36 Jana_in_Indiana: I do that too Shellie, we -- not the compost, there isn't that much of it
07/7/05 20:22:38 sherry__(Mo): How true!
07/7/05 20:23:08 Shellie_CA: I ordered two bags of that so thats what - 40#
07/7/05 20:23:29 Jana_in_Indiana: OMG!  You are going to have tons of soil!  LOL
07/7/05 20:23:40 Okie Logs in [68.12.244.136]
07/7/05 20:23:47 Shellie_CA: yup
07/7/05 20:23:53 Tony__IL: hi again Charlene
07/7/05 20:23:56 Okie: Stupid computer  :(
07/7/05 20:23:56 Jana_in_Indiana: WB Charlene!
07/7/05 20:23:58 Shellie_CA: Welcome back Okie
07/7/05 20:24:03 sherry__(Mo): Hi Charlene
07/7/05 20:24:11 Jana_in_Indiana: it only takes 1 gallon per batch Shellie
07/7/05 20:24:21 Okie: HI again, just ignore me if that happens, my wireless is giving me trouble
07/7/05 20:24:48 Jana_in_Indiana: did you get the e-mail?
07/7/05 20:24:58 Jana_in_Indiana: or want me to send again?
07/7/05 20:25:05 Shellie_CA: I know but as long as I am shipping it - its cheaper this way
07/7/05 20:25:25 Okie: Jana, I did email you back with a final order this evening :)
07/7/05 20:25:41 Jana_in_Indiana: I just spent 16 bucks on shipping of Pharok, hope it's worth it! ;)
07/7/05 20:25:59 Tony__IL: Pharok ?? What is that
07/7/05 20:26:05 sherry__(Mo): what is Pharok?
07/7/05 20:26:10 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/7/05 20:26:21 Okie: Is that Far OKlahoma LOL
07/7/05 20:26:36 Jana_in_Indiana: the last one I got was at 10:22 Am & subject is additions to my order
07/7/05 20:26:52 Okie: I will resend Jana
07/7/05 20:27:02 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks!
07/7/05 20:27:22 Jana_in_Indiana: actually it said More Additionsd to me order, LOL
07/7/05 20:27:24 Okie: Let me know if you get it
07/7/05 20:27:27 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
07/7/05 20:28:01 Okie: What am I interupting tonite
07/7/05 20:28:19 Okie: What are we talking about
07/7/05 20:28:42 sherry__(Mo): Is she ignoring our question Tony?
07/7/05 20:28:50 Tony__IL: your order from Jna and the Pharok stuff, Okie
07/7/05 20:28:53 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, it make it here Okie!
07/7/05 20:29:07 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, what did I miss?
07/7/05 20:29:16 Okie: Ok, Has anyone ordered from Cedar Creek Violets
07/7/05 20:29:17 sherry__(Mo): Jana, what is Pharok?
07/7/05 20:29:25 Tony__IL: WHAT IS Pharok?
07/7/05 20:29:28 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/7/05 20:29:29 Jana_in_Indiana: you KNOW I can't do 2 thinks at once!  LOL
07/7/05 20:29:37 sherry__(Mo): sure ya can!
07/7/05 20:29:40 tee7202 Logs in [67.184.133.223]
07/7/05 20:29:40 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, it's super coarse sponge rock
07/7/05 20:29:46 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tee
07/7/05 20:29:46 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tee
07/7/05 20:29:52 Okie: They have some great looking leaf cups on Ebay
07/7/05 20:30:00 tee7202: hello
07/7/05 20:30:10 sherry__(Mo): what do they look like Charlene?
07/7/05 20:30:12 Jana_in_Indiana: Tee, name please?
07/7/05 20:30:13 Tony__IL: hi Tee
07/7/05 20:30:22 Okie: They look awesome.  Better than a plantlett
07/7/05 20:30:37 tee7202: My name is Tonya.  Hi neighbor
07/7/05 20:30:39 sherry__(Mo): what's the auction number?
07/7/05 20:30:43 Okie: Lots of babies, to me that is what they look like, but just wondering if anyone knew if I;m correct
07/7/05 20:30:46 Jana_in_Indiana: some of those plantlets they sell are so scrawney & tiny!
07/7/05 20:30:48 Okie: Hi Tonya
07/7/05 20:31:02 tee7202: Hi Okie
07/7/05 20:31:06 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, were you from?
07/7/05 20:31:07 sherry__(Mo): What state are you in Tonya?
07/7/05 20:31:07 Shellie_CA: Hi Tanya
07/7/05 20:31:10 Okie: 3984888967 Sherry
07/7/05 20:31:21 sherry__(Mo): Thanks Charlene
07/7/05 20:31:25 tee7202: Illinois
07/7/05 20:31:33 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, everyone run to e-bay & check it out!
07/7/05 20:31:35 Tony__IL: from the state on insanity (Illinoi) LOL
07/7/05 20:31:47 sherry__(Mo): LOL Tony
07/7/05 20:32:00 Okie: :/
07/7/05 20:32:04 Tony__IL: where in IL are you Tanya?
07/7/05 20:32:49 tee7202: Aurora, I was on the chat Sunday
07/7/05 20:32:57 Tony__IL: right
07/7/05 20:33:13 Tony__IL: thought it was one of the burbs
07/7/05 20:33:25 sherry__(Mo): Sorry Tonya! I get confused-easy for me to do-LOL
07/7/05 20:33:29 Okie: I'm just thinkin that as bad of luck as I have with leaves maybe these leaf pots would be a little better idea for now, til I get better
07/7/05 20:33:59 Jana_in_Indiana: that leaf pot looks like at least 4 plants to me
07/7/05 20:34:04 tee7202: Are you new to AV Okie
07/7/05 20:34:28 Jana_in_Indiana: we ALL are easily confused Tonya!  LOL
07/7/05 20:34:39 Okie: Pretty much, had some noids to start with that I did well with, even got lots of babies, but the named leaves are pokey
07/7/05 20:34:46 Okie: lol
07/7/05 20:34:53 sherry__(Mo): Just buy a plant and keep putting down leaves
07/7/05 20:35:04 tee7202: I just learned that my plants are called noids
07/7/05 20:35:27 sherry__(Mo): We've all started out with those Tonya!
07/7/05 20:35:36 Jana_in_Indiana: it seems (to me at least) that the LESS carefully I put them down & the LESS attention I give them, the better they do!
07/7/05 20:36:03 sherry__(Mo): Go easy on the water Charlene
07/7/05 20:36:05 tee7202: Then I should be great at leaf's
07/7/05 20:36:12 Jana_in_Indiana: :)
07/7/05 20:36:31 sherry__(Mo): Have you tried to put any down yet Tonya?
07/7/05 20:36:34 tee7202: I have never put down leaves
07/7/05 20:36:51 Jana_in_Indiana: honestly, the leaves I put down at 4:30 AM at convention have done the best, I was barely awake!
07/7/05 20:36:57 Okie: I try
07/7/05 20:36:58 tee7202: I am going to repot soon so I am going to try it
07/7/05 20:37:01 Okie: :?
07/7/05 20:37:03 sherry__(Mo): You've got to give it a try-to me, watching those babies finally come up is the fun part!
07/7/05 20:37:30 Okie: Exactly Sherry
07/7/05 20:37:36 Jana_in_Indiana: the very best part is watching your bably bloom the first time, then grow to full size!
07/7/05 20:38:03 Okie: I love watching the babies come up, but these named brats, take their sweet time.
07/7/05 20:38:13 tee7202: What is the best thing to put leaves in?
07/7/05 20:38:25 Jana_in_Indiana: you might have gotten older leaves, they're slower to produce
07/7/05 20:38:38 Jana_in_Indiana: whatever works best for you tonya
07/7/05 20:38:46 Tony__IL: I use my regular soil mix for all things, Tonya
07/7/05 20:38:58 tee7202: I meant containers
07/7/05 20:39:00 sherry__(Mo): The Noids had names at one time Cjarlene!
07/7/05 20:39:31 Okie: You guys will all hear me yell when these prissy's finally finish laboring
07/7/05 20:39:40 Jana_in_Indiana: I use the same soil for everything too, but some root in water, in baggies w/ damp paper towel, some use 1:1:1 mix, some 50/50 perlite & vermi -- the options are endless
07/7/05 20:39:43 Okie: brb
07/7/05 20:39:54 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
07/7/05 20:40:01 Shellie_CA: brb
07/7/05 20:40:12 Jana_in_Indiana: ?I use seedling trays & 1 ounce solo cups
07/7/05 20:40:37 tee7202: Do you use regular saran wrap?
07/7/05 20:40:47 Jana_in_Indiana: for?
07/7/05 20:41:06 tee7202: To put over the leaves
07/7/05 20:41:18 sherry__(Mo): I started out with large vermiculite in deli containers but now just do it in the regular mix-try different things and see what works for you. I can't get one to root in water for the life of me-but others have no problems
07/7/05 20:41:33 Jana_in_Indiana: oh!  I like the press n' seal to cover tubs & cake domes
07/7/05 20:42:00 sherry__(Mo): Yes-I like the press n seal too-iasn't it handy!?!
07/7/05 20:42:02 Jana_in_Indiana: same here Sherry, all they do in water is rot!
07/7/05 20:42:05 Tony__IL: the deeper you put the leaf, the longer it takes for the babies to reach the top
07/7/05 20:42:10 sherry__(Mo): Same here Jana
07/7/05 20:42:30 Jana_in_Indiana: I've never once used press n' seal on food, but use it for plants all the time, LOL
07/7/05 20:43:14 sherry__(Mo): I can't afford it for food stuhh Jana-that's why it's just for AV's-LOL
07/7/05 20:43:30 tee7202: LOL
07/7/05 20:43:41 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL!  I don't think it's thick enough for food
07/7/05 20:44:11 sherry__(Mo): Did you try the deal with turning a full glass upside down? I freaked Nina out
07/7/05 20:44:28 Jana_in_Indiana: anyone want Tony to cover the variegated/green AV culture?  Or just keep on chatting?
07/7/05 20:44:37 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
07/7/05 20:44:43 sherry__(Mo): Go for it Tony!
07/7/05 20:44:50 Tony__IL: me cover it??? What the heck??
07/7/05 20:44:55 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/7/05 20:45:05 Jana_in_Indiana: HEY!  IT was your bright idea!  :P
07/7/05 20:45:08 tee7202: Ok Tony teach me something
07/7/05 20:45:28 Okie: I'm back Tony, you go boy  :p
07/7/05 20:45:38 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony is frantically typing now, LOL
07/7/05 20:45:47 tee7202: LOL
07/7/05 20:45:50 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/7/05 20:45:55 Tony__IL: Jana says it doesn't make any diff what light there in. I always heard cool and at the ends of the shelf
07/7/05 20:46:28 Jana_in_Indiana: if you visited Pat Hancock, you'd say the same thing!
07/7/05 20:46:51 sherry__(Mo): I think they are somewhat like other AV's-some prefer their own spot
07/7/05 20:46:51 Okie: I get confused, is it true the varigates need less light and the darker the leaf the more light it needs?
07/7/05 20:47:02 Tony__IL: I know Cheryl sent me a couple leaves from Chicago Flair and mine have never been that white? Go figure
07/7/05 20:47:06 goj62 Logs in [172.167.72.37]
07/7/05 20:47:08 Jana_in_Indiana: the only major difference I've found is that the babies sometimes need greening up before removing from momma leaf
07/7/05 20:47:20 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Judi!
07/7/05 20:47:21 Okie: Hi Judi???? I think
07/7/05 20:47:22 sherry__(Mo): Hi Go
07/7/05 20:47:33 sherry__(Mo): _Judo, isn't it?
07/7/05 20:47:46 tee7202: LOL I go
07/7/05 20:47:46 sherry__(Mo): sorry! Judi
07/7/05 20:47:48 Tony__IL: don't think would want to plant an albino either
07/7/05 20:47:59 sherry__(Mo): it would croak
07/7/05 20:48:04 Jana_in_Indiana: and, you want to choose a leaf to start that has the most green on it -- less variegation
07/7/05 20:48:16 goj62: hi you,ll   sorry so late
07/7/05 20:48:17 Tony__IL: use Epson salts to green the babies up
07/7/05 20:48:32 Jana_in_Indiana: yup!  And Fish Emulsion works too
07/7/05 20:48:56 Tony__IL: what is it, 1 tsp/gal for the salts?
07/7/05 20:48:58 Jana_in_Indiana: also, heat in summer can cause variegation to go away, but it return when cooler temps arrive
07/7/05 20:49:28 Jana_in_Indiana: for babies, yes 1 tsp per gallon water -- for adults you can use 1 Tablespoon per gallon
07/7/05 20:49:48 Tony__IL: move to the basement. It's cooler for you too down there. LOL
07/7/05 20:50:11 Okie: What basement, I live in Tornado alley, we don't have basements
07/7/05 20:50:17 Jana_in_Indiana: I don't have a basement, sorry, but the A/C keeps it plenty cool!
07/7/05 20:50:22 Okie: *)
07/7/05 20:50:47 Tony__IL: Don't you go to the basement when there's a tornado?
07/7/05 20:51:07 Okie: Would if I could
07/7/05 20:51:11 Jana_in_Indiana: not when I don't have one!   :?
07/7/05 20:51:46 sherry__(Mo): I've got one, but don't go to the basement when there's warnings
07/7/05 20:52:00 Okie: We have an above ground storm room we put in when we built this house
07/7/05 20:52:05 Jana_in_Indiana: climbed on the roof & watched them go by as a kid, but not now!  LOL
07/7/05 20:52:09 sherry__(Mo): I don't want gthe house falling on me-LOL
07/7/05 20:52:17 Okie: Why not Sherry
07/7/05 20:52:20 Tony__IL: I want to make sure it's there and then head for cover. LOL
07/7/05 20:52:43 sherry__(Mo): If it's my time-it will get me where ever I'm at
07/7/05 20:52:56 Okie: Not after May 3 1999 we don't wait around anymore
07/7/05 20:53:06 Jana_in_Indiana: Sherry, when you see the neighbors insulation & shingles falling in your yard, you'll go!
07/7/05 20:53:12 sherry__(Mo): I'm too mean-gonna be around for a long time!!
07/7/05 20:53:18 sherry__(Mo): LOL Jana
07/7/05 20:54:01 Jana_in_Indiana: anything else we need to know for variegated AV's Tony?
07/7/05 20:54:36 Tony__IL: same temps, same soil as for green ones, right?
07/7/05 20:54:46 Jana_in_Indiana: right
07/7/05 20:54:48 Tony__IL: same fertilizers?
07/7/05 20:54:51 Jana_in_Indiana: yup
07/7/05 20:55:21 Jana_in_Indiana: any questions?
07/7/05 20:55:23 Tony__IL: light any different, J?
07/7/05 20:55:37 tee7202: How do you get the AV leaves to shine
07/7/05 20:55:41 sherry__(Mo): depends on who ya talk too-LOL
07/7/05 20:55:49 Jana_in_Indiana: right sherry!
07/7/05 20:55:55 sherry__(Mo): I meant for lights
07/7/05 20:56:02 Jana_in_Indiana: leaf shine is more genetic than culture
07/7/05 20:56:09 Okie Logs in [68.12.244.136]
07/7/05 20:56:17 Jana_in_Indiana: quick trip Okie!
07/7/05 20:56:19 Okie: Darn it  :<
07/7/05 20:56:20 sherry__(Mo): Some are hairier than others
07/7/05 20:56:32 Tony__IL: shine? may depend on the variety. Also wash them in Muprhy's soap?
07/7/05 20:56:48 Jana_in_Indiana: don't ever use that stuff they sell to make leaves shine, it'll kill AV's
07/7/05 20:56:56 tee7202: How do you wash leaves without breaking them off
07/7/05 20:57:18 Tony__IL: it's for philodendrons and them other things LOL
07/7/05 20:57:46 sherry__(Mo): very gently
07/7/05 20:58:00 Jana_in_Indiana: I set the pot in the sink, dump Ivory dish soap in my hands, wet my hands & then 'wash' over the AV, letting the bubbles fall all over the plant, then rinse & blow into the crown to remove the water
07/7/05 20:58:09 tee7202: I have had the same philodendron for over 10 years and I have never washed the leaves
07/7/05 20:58:11 Tony__IL: spray them with the dilute soap solution and spray them with a rinse of water. Then pat dry'
07/7/05 20:58:39 Jana_in_Indiana: just don't place a wet AV in direct light until it's dry
07/7/05 20:59:18 Tony__IL: the water acts as a small prisim and burns the leaf
07/7/05 20:59:57 Jana_in_Indiana: right!
07/7/05 21:00:08 Tony__IL: try a couple of them NOIDS first
07/7/05 21:00:17 sherry__(Mo): I've really gotten lax on washing mine
07/7/05 21:00:24 Jana_in_Indiana: poor noids, we all experiment on them!
07/7/05 21:00:33 tee7202: LOL
07/7/05 21:00:55 Tony__IL: what's the diff if you washed them or used a brush to remove the dust?
07/7/05 21:00:57 Jana_in_Indiana: mine get washed just before repotting, & I'm never on schedule for that either!
07/7/05 21:01:20 Jana_in_Indiana: brush won't really get it all, just the larger particles
07/7/05 21:02:18 sherry__(Mo): With the trailers, I'm afraid to even try to wash them
07/7/05 21:02:37 Jana_in_Indiana: just ask my AV's 'Who needs repotting?', 80% will raise a leaf & yell 'I do!'
07/7/05 21:03:00 sherry__(Mo): Oh! I heard those little vacuum things for the pooter are good for cleaning leaves
07/7/05 21:03:02 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, trailers are tricky!  they get so huge!
07/7/05 21:03:15 Tony__IL: wjo has experience with trailers? We need someone with more experience than I for a chat on them
07/7/05 21:03:15 sherry__(Mo): and so many laeves and crowns!
07/7/05 21:03:37 Jana_in_Indiana: take them to the car wash?
07/7/05 21:03:41 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/7/05 21:03:50 Shellie_CA: I'm back
07/7/05 21:03:51 Tony__IL: all in the trunk. LOL
07/7/05 21:04:21 Jana_in_Indiana: did you see Sharon's post about the judge at the fair?
07/7/05 21:04:23 Tony__IL: or in the back of the truck?
07/7/05 21:04:40 Tony__IL: missed it J
07/7/05 21:04:50 Jana_in_Indiana: he said her chantasprings needed to be seperated & repotted!  LOL
07/7/05 21:05:09 Jana_in_Indiana: maybe he said 'divided'!
07/7/05 21:05:10 sherry__(Mo): why?!
07/7/05 21:05:28 Jana_in_Indiana: he's a FAIR judge, LOL -- don't know AV's!
07/7/05 21:05:40 Jana_in_Indiana: like county fair
07/7/05 21:05:53 sherry__(Mo): But a trailer can have many crowns-as long as it has 3 for a show
07/7/05 21:06:08 sherry__(Mo): Guess he'd better learn!
07/7/05 21:06:20 Tony__IL: needs to get FC2
07/7/05 21:06:28 Jana_in_Indiana: not if the judge is uneducated about AV trailers!  He's probably never seen or heard of one!
07/7/05 21:06:30 sherry__(Mo): Is he AVSA cetified?
07/7/05 21:06:40 Jana_in_Indiana: heck no!
07/7/05 21:06:52 Tony__IL: doubt it for a county fair
07/7/05 21:06:57 sherry__(Mo): Then how can he judge?!
07/7/05 21:07:04 Jana_in_Indiana: probably some local yokel from the garden shop!
07/7/05 21:07:08 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/7/05 21:07:13 Jana_in_Indiana: it's a fair!
07/7/05 21:07:16 tee7202: LOL
07/7/05 21:07:45 Jana_in_Indiana: I've judged cavy shows at our fair, & I'm far from being a judge!
07/7/05 21:08:58 Jana_in_Indiana: but at least I've read the standard & seen the breeds, lots of the judges were pet shop owners, fair show are almost a joke!
07/7/05 21:10:07 Tony__IL: if you want to a judge, where do you start?
07/7/05 21:10:09 tee7202: Tony dont forget to get me the info for the show in Lisle
07/7/05 21:10:11 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry, for taking you off topic T, any more questions on variegated AV's?
07/7/05 21:10:49 Jana_in_Indiana: http://www.iavs-online.org
07/7/05 21:10:58 Jana_in_Indiana: the show info will be there
07/7/05 21:11:02 tee7202: Thanks Jana
07/7/05 21:11:08 Tony__IL: Tonya, mail me at tclayt2001@yahoo.com as a reminder and I'll see what I can find out
07/7/05 21:11:17 Jana_in_Indiana: welcome!  That's where I met Tony the 1st time!
07/7/05 21:11:31 Okie Disconnects
07/7/05 21:11:43 Jana_in_Indiana: I'd better warn you -- if you see him carrying cases of beer, it's really AV's!
07/7/05 21:11:56 sherry__(Mo): sure Jana
07/7/05 21:12:23 sherry__(Mo): But the cases were probably full when he got them!
07/7/05 21:12:24 tee7202: Buying or selling
07/7/05 21:12:34 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL!
07/7/05 21:12:54 Tony__IL: consession stands
07/7/05 21:12:55 sherry__(Mo): Hey Tony-need any help emptying those cases-LOL
07/7/05 21:13:10 Tony__IL: no, got John
07/7/05 21:13:15 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/7/05 21:13:34 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony gave me my first ever named AV, and leaves too!  He's a sweetheart!
07/7/05 21:13:46 Jana_in_Indiana: AV's*
07/7/05 21:14:09 goj62 Logs Out
07/7/05 21:14:44 Jana_in_Indiana: honestly, all AV people are so very nice & kind!
07/7/05 21:15:12 Jana_in_Indiana: Sorry! BRB, phone!
07/7/05 21:16:14 tee7202: Well I have got to go my kids wont stay in bed.  I am going to lay down the law.
07/7/05 21:16:17 sherry__(Mo): Anyone got any questions for Tony?
07/7/05 21:16:22 Tony__IL: Tonya, usually the State Show is in Lisle. if you go to the avsa.org, they have a list of clubs too
07/7/05 21:16:38 Janis_in_Okla Logs in [70.241.54.13]
07/7/05 21:16:53 Tony__IL: nite Tonya
07/7/05 21:16:54 sherry__(Mo): LOL-Tonya-kids keep us on our toes-and keep us wore out!
07/7/05 21:16:56 tee7202: I am looking into the Fox Valley club
07/7/05 21:16:57 Janis_in_Okla: Hi all :)
07/7/05 21:17:00 Tony__IL: Hi Janis
07/7/05 21:17:09 sherry__(Mo): Hi Janis
07/7/05 21:17:10 tee7202: Good night
07/7/05 21:17:15 Janis_in_Okla: :)
07/7/05 21:17:21 sherry__(Mo): Night Tonya
07/7/05 21:17:23 Janis_in_Okla: night time already?
07/7/05 21:17:39 tee7202 Logs Out
07/7/05 21:17:43 Tony__IL: she's got kids to put to bed
07/7/05 21:17:49 Janis_in_Okla: oh ok
07/7/05 21:17:54 Janis_in_Okla: I understand
07/7/05 21:18:00 sherry__(Mo): we started over an hour ago
07/7/05 21:18:23 Janis_in_Okla: I know.....I am always late but ......
07/7/05 21:18:58 Janis_in_Okla: my grandkids were here and just went home......to go to bed.   LOL
07/7/05 21:19:02 Tony__IL: well, we'll let it go this time, Janis
07/7/05 21:19:02 sherry__(Mo): LOL-me too
07/7/05 21:19:19 Janis_in_Okla: hehehe  Tony
07/7/05 21:20:29 Tony__IL: will have to go thru stuff and put up a trade list
07/7/05 21:21:38 sherry__(Mo): after you do yours, come do mine Tony
07/7/05 21:21:46 Tony__IL: don't know where I would put any trades. LOL
07/7/05 21:22:04 Janis_in_Okla: well I guess I will go.  looks like everyone is web surfing.  LOL
07/7/05 21:22:20 Tony__IL: Have a good weekend Janis
07/7/05 21:22:24 sherry__(Mo): I've got some that aren't even under lights right now
07/7/05 21:22:30 sherry__(Mo): Night Janis
07/7/05 21:22:32 Janis_in_Okla: talk to you all next time.....yes you too Tony
07/7/05 21:22:35 Janis_in_Okla: nite sherry
07/7/05 21:22:38 Janis_in_Okla Logs Out
07/7/05 21:22:43 Tony__IL: Thanks Janis
07/7/05 21:22:58 sherry__(Mo): Are you still with us Shellie?!
07/7/05 21:23:13 Tony__IL: I have 2 trays of leaves I don't have room for under the lights
07/7/05 21:24:11 sherry__(Mo): I've got babies I need to pot up but no place to put them
07/7/05 21:24:16 Tony__IL: oh well, we'll use natural light on the top shelves. LOL
07/7/05 21:24:35 Shellie_CA: yes I am here - I was looking at Millies pictures of here trip to ireland england and scotland
07/7/05 21:25:03 sherry__(Mo): Wouldn't it be nice to travel?!
07/7/05 21:25:51 tee7202 Logs in [67.184.133.223]
07/7/05 21:26:08 Tony__IL: how did she talk of the plants for 2 weeks or the length of the trip?
07/7/05 21:26:24 tee7202: Tony the show is in Urbana this year
07/7/05 21:26:32 Tony__IL: w/b Tanya
07/7/05 21:26:35 Shellie_CA: I don't want to go anywhere at the moment - maybe convention next spring
07/7/05 21:27:04 Tony__IL: OK well usually the Fox Valley club has a couple shows
07/7/05 21:27:44 tee7202: That is a bummer
07/7/05 21:27:48 Tony__IL: also a sale in Rockford and a sale in Moline
07/7/05 21:27:51 sherry__(Mo): Are you going to try to go to convention Tony?
07/7/05 21:28:12 Tony__IL: time will tell, not sure about the national
07/7/05 21:28:33 tee7202 Logs Out
07/7/05 21:28:40 Tony__IL: see what the bills come to by then LOL
07/7/05 21:29:07 sherry__(Mo): I'd like too-but don't know if I'll be able too
07/7/05 21:29:24 Tony__IL: about a 5 hr drive from here
07/7/05 21:29:50 sherry__(Mo): Get someone to go with you and the time will pass faster
07/7/05 21:30:28 Tony__IL: drive to Sterling and I'll drive rest of the way LOL
07/7/05 21:30:44 sherry__(Mo): How far away is Sterling from KC?
07/7/05 21:31:17 Tony__IL: not sure, have to check Yahoo driving directions
07/7/05 21:31:33 sherry__(Mo): ok-I'll do that when I get off chat
07/7/05 21:32:06 sherry__(Mo): I 've never flown so don't know hopw to go about flying!
07/7/05 21:32:08 Tony__IL: also may be shorter for you to head north about Cedar Rapids, Ia
07/7/05 21:32:42 Tony__IL: should be some flights to Mineapolis
07/7/05 21:32:46 sherry__(Mo): I get lost in Kansas City-LOL
07/7/05 21:34:00 sherry__(Mo): Guess I'll call it a night-got a few emails I need to answer
07/7/05 21:34:09 Tony__IL: night Sherry
07/7/05 21:34:14 sherry__(Mo): Have a grat weekend!!
07/7/05 21:34:14 Shellie_CA: good nite Sherry
07/7/05 21:34:19 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out
07/7/05 21:34:38 Tony__IL: where are you in CA Shellie
07/7/05 21:34:51 Shellie_CA: Jana  did Millie tell you about my brushing out Mollie
07/7/05 21:35:03 Tony__IL: have a couple uncles in SanDiego area
07/7/05 21:35:14 Cheryl-TX Logs in [68.94.17.169]
07/7/05 21:35:23 Shellie_CA: Winchester CA thats north of San Deigo and south of Riverside
07/7/05 21:35:24 Tony__IL: Hi Cheryl
07/7/05 21:35:42 Cheryl-TX: Hi all
07/7/05 21:36:11 Tony__IL: lost a couple leaves Cheryl, but most of them are still with it
07/7/05 21:36:13 Shellie_CA: I gave them both a lecture, I'm afraid, about letting that little 3 pound dog rule the roost
07/7/05 21:36:44 Shellie_CA: Hi Cheryl
07/7/05 21:36:53 Cheryl-TX: I can never figure that out, some make it some don't
07/7/05 21:37:19 Tony__IL: you figure it out and you'll be a millionaire
07/7/05 21:37:26 Cheryl-TX: lol
07/7/05 21:38:16 Cheryl-TX: maybe that is what makes it fun, you never know what to expect
07/7/05 21:39:51 Tony__IL: some of the little ones and some of the big ones still OK. No rhyme or reason
07/7/05 21:40:08 Cheryl-TX: i was just checking my mail and decided to see who is on chat
07/7/05 21:40:32 Tony__IL: Jana had a phone call
07/7/05 21:41:04 Tony__IL: who's good on trailers. Think it would be a good topic
07/7/05 21:41:09 Shellie_CA: I have some Wrangler leaves that I put down in Feb. some finally have mouse ears and some are still just sitting there not dying and not sprouting
07/7/05 21:41:19 Cheryl-TX: well i am repotting some plants, who would have thought it  lol
07/7/05 21:42:31 Cheryl-TX: have they rooted?
07/7/05 21:42:46 Shellie_CA: yes they rooted but no babies yet
07/7/05 21:43:05 Cheryl-TX: did you cut the top off
07/7/05 21:43:11 Shellie_CA: yes I did
07/7/05 21:43:57 Cheryl-TX: maybe you can repot and that will shake them up
07/7/05 21:44:58 Tony__IL: maybe I should try that with Jana's post convention leaves
07/7/05 21:45:17 Shellie_CA: I am waiting until all the ingredients arrive for mixing up Pat Hancock's Soil recipe then I intend to repot everything - by then all the Avid treatments for broad mites will be completed
07/7/05 21:45:44 Tony__IL: How much did that cost you Shellie?
07/7/05 21:46:11 Shellie_CA: what? the Avid was $100 for an 8 oz bottle
07/7/05 21:46:23 Tony__IL: holy cow !!
07/7/05 21:46:51 Tony__IL: lots of $$ for a couple tsp full that you probably used
07/7/05 21:46:57 Shellie_CA: it goes a  long way because you 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon to a gallon of water
07/7/05 21:47:36 Cheryl-TX: where did you get it
07/7/05 21:47:38 Tony__IL: too bad they don't sell it in 2 oz bottles
07/7/05 21:47:59 Shellie_CA: it is expensive but replacing 70 varieties of AV would cost more
07/7/05 21:48:25 Shellie_CA: I got it on Rosemania's web site
07/7/05 21:48:28 Cheryl-TX: i bought from cape cod and he sold me just an ounce
07/7/05 21:48:44 Tony__IL: maybe we should start splitting up the high $$ stuff
07/7/05 21:49:00 Shellie_CA: that was probably a great deal then
07/7/05 21:50:23 Shellie_CA: The problem with splitting up something like avid is that you don't have all the paper work that comes with getting the whole bottle.
07/7/05 21:50:59 Shellie_CA: they sent a booklet with it with the instructions and all the precautions for its use
07/7/05 21:51:21 Tony__IL: don't they have a web site or MSDS sheet?
07/7/05 21:52:40 Tony__IL: or just copy the needed info?
07/7/05 21:52:47 Cheryl-TX: just looked at my order and it 12.00 dollars for the smallest bottle of avid
07/7/05 21:53:06 Tony__IL: beats a $100
07/7/05 21:53:15 Shellie_CA: it sure does
07/7/05 21:53:23 Cheryl-TX: he sends a copy of the paper work
07/7/05 21:54:11 Tony__IL: well, if you want to get rid of some of it, please let me know
07/7/05 21:54:15 Shellie_CA: that was great - I wish I had known about that before I bought it but it is very difficult to get an order from Cape Cod at the present time
07/7/05 21:55:03 Tony__IL: have some Neem Oil and some Knock-Out Gnats
07/7/05 21:55:54 Tony__IL: See you all next week. Gotta go
07/7/05 21:56:09 Shellie_CA: good nite Tony
07/7/05 21:56:24 Cheryl-TX: well you can make a copy of the paper work divide it up,
07/7/05 21:56:26 Tony__IL Logs Out
07/7/05 21:56:38 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm back
07/7/05 21:56:48 Shellie_CA: Jana must still be on the phone
07/7/05 21:56:55 Shellie_CA: there you are
07/7/05 21:57:00 Jana_in_Indiana: no, just said I'm back, LOL
07/7/05 21:57:13 Shellie_CA: I know
07/7/05 21:57:39 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry, was talking to Pat
07/7/05 21:57:55 Cheryl-TX: we were just talking about the cost of avid
07/7/05 21:58:12 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, big bucks!
07/7/05 21:58:34 Jana_in_Indiana: think I'd get arrested if I got some & divided it up into smaller bottles?
07/7/05 21:58:57 Cheryl-TX: no, john cook gets by with doing it
07/7/05 21:59:02 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL!
07/7/05 21:59:47 Jana_in_Indiana: well, I already did it wiht the Marathon, & will do it again soon
07/7/05 21:59:57 Shellie_CA: Jana did Millie tell you about my brushing out Mollie
07/7/05 22:00:04 Jana_in_Indiana: yes!
07/7/05 22:00:15 Jana_in_Indiana: she really appreciated it!
07/7/05 22:00:27 Jana_in_Indiana: she called me last night
07/7/05 22:00:35 Shellie_CA: I have them a good talking to about not letting that little 3 pound dog rule the roost
07/7/05 22:00:42 Cheryl-TX: how is she doing?
07/7/05 22:01:20 Jana_in_Indiana: better after Shellies visit, she needed to chat, relax, laugh & get her mind off troubles  for once!
07/7/05 22:01:42 Jana_in_Indiana: good!  They can take over if you let them!
07/7/05 22:02:02 Shellie_CA: I showed them how to make that little terror of a Yorkie behave
07/7/05 22:02:31 Jana_in_Indiana: she behaved here!
07/7/05 22:02:42 Cheryl-TX: how do you do that Shellie?
07/7/05 22:03:03 Jana_in_Indiana: & never had any accidents!  She wouldn't even pee in the cage, went straight to the pee pad as sson as we let her out, LOL!
07/7/05 22:03:52 Shellie_CA: well I put her in my lap and held unto one of her legs and started brushing when she objected I went AH, AH AH in her face and made her stop
07/7/05 22:04:26 Cheryl-TX: have to show her who is boss
07/7/05 22:04:58 Shellie_CA: when she started to struggle, I gripped her around her throat and deprived her of air, they don't struggle long when they can't breath
07/7/05 22:05:17 Jana_in_Indiana: they're just like kids, if you ever give into to them once, they'll expect it forever!
07/7/05 22:05:33 Shellie_CA: you bet, and that little girl need to know who is the boss
07/7/05 22:05:36 Cheryl-TX: you are right
07/7/05 22:05:46 Jana_in_Indiana: mine behave, and I've never deprived them of air!  :?
07/7/05 22:06:33 Jana_in_Indiana: don't spank them either, just praise like crazy when they do good, & really quick -- they learn to keep doing good!
07/7/05 22:07:18 Shellie_CA: well I needed a strong hand with Mollie because Millie and Frank have been letting her get away with murder
07/7/05 22:07:34 Jana_in_Indiana: I know that's the truth!  LOL
07/7/05 22:08:40 Jana_in_Indiana: 5 baths a day cause she likes to play in mud????  I'd put her on a leash away from all water & soil!
07/7/05 22:09:22 Shellie_CA: that's why she was so matted all those bathes without getting brushed first
07/7/05 22:09:42 Shellie_CA: when you wet mattes they tighten up
07/7/05 22:09:46 Jana_in_Indiana: that'll do it!
07/7/05 22:09:55 Cheryl-TX: I guess you must live close to millie
07/7/05 22:09:57 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl, you have any dogs?
07/7/05 22:10:20 Shellie_CA: about an 1.5 hour drive
07/7/05 22:10:39 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that's not too bad a drive!
07/7/05 22:10:57 Shellie_CA: fortunately the mattes were baby coat that needed to come out
07/7/05 22:11:12 Cheryl-TX: not now, i had two rat terriers , but it was so hard when they passed, i have decided to be happy with my cats
07/7/05 22:11:12 Shellie_CA: they came out like little black tufts
07/7/05 22:11:35 Jana_in_Indiana: what kind of cats?
07/7/05 22:11:48 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, gotta get those matts out!
07/7/05 22:12:07 Cheryl-TX: Kuwaiti terrorist cats
07/7/05 22:12:28 Shellie_CA: :D  :D
07/7/05 22:12:32 Cheryl-TX: we brought back 4 steet cats
07/7/05 22:12:37 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
07/7/05 22:12:47 Cheryl-TX: and have two that are american made
07/7/05 22:12:51 Jana_in_Indiana: you went to Kuwait too?
07/7/05 22:13:05 Shellie_CA: I have two tortoishell domestic shorthair cats
07/7/05 22:13:26 Shellie_CA: and a year old Cavalier King Charles Spaniel
07/7/05 22:13:27 Cheryl-TX: lived and taught there for about 10 years
07/7/05 22:13:36 Jana_in_Indiana: I used to have cats, not now with these 2 yorkies, they think everything is their baby!
07/7/05 22:14:15 Jana_in_Indiana: really?  you mean before Desert Storm?
07/7/05 22:14:40 Cheryl-TX: 1994-2001
07/7/05 22:15:06 Jana_in_Indiana: was it enjoyable?  how different is it than life here?
07/7/05 22:15:15 Cheryl-TX: very nice
07/7/05 22:15:28 Cheryl-TX: a nice place to teach
07/7/05 22:16:27 Jana_in_Indiana: my son says when it first became a rich country, people would buy a new car when it ran out of gas -- didn't know to put gas in????
07/7/05 22:16:50 Cheryl-TX: i enjoyed it and only came back here because of family here
07/7/05 22:16:55 Jana_in_Indiana: or is that just another legend?
07/7/05 22:17:15 Cheryl-TX: after my dad passed away, my mom needed me here
07/7/05 22:17:37 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, we all need family!
07/7/05 22:17:39 Cheryl-TX: that could be true
07/7/05 22:17:54 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm glad you came back -- or else I'd never have met you!
07/7/05 22:18:20 Jana_in_Indiana: Shellie, still shhowing your dog?
07/7/05 22:18:47 Cheryl-TX: my husband tells a story about a man coming to the states and buying a winnibago and getting up and walking to the bath room thinking it would drive itself
07/7/05 22:18:48 Jana_in_Indiana: got any babies on those leaves I sent you gals?
07/7/05 22:19:00 Jana_in_Indiana: OMG!
07/7/05 22:19:13 Cheryl-TX: yes most have babies
07/7/05 22:19:19 Jana_in_Indiana: great!
07/7/05 22:19:58 Cheryl-TX: I did lose buckey boysenberry
07/7/05 22:20:17 Jana_in_Indiana: I put down the extras I didn't mail out, so I'll have extras too
07/7/05 22:20:23 Jana_in_Indiana: oh no!
07/7/05 22:20:43 Shellie_CA: Sugar is going to her first show here in CA on Aug 6
07/7/05 22:20:45 Jana_in_Indiana: was it too variegated?
07/7/05 22:20:59 Jana_in_Indiana: that should be fun for both of you Shellie!
07/7/05 22:21:18 Shellie_CA: My sister Laura is going to show her
07/7/05 22:21:35 Shellie_CA: Laura is really great at showing dogs
07/7/05 22:21:41 Cheryl-TX: the rest are doing fine, but you never know what will happen,
07/7/05 22:21:44 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl, I have 1 buckeye, don't remember which one, it's getting huge, but it's VERY variegated, should I do anything about it?
07/7/05 22:22:13 Jana_in_Indiana: I mean it's about 75% or more
07/7/05 22:22:27 Jana_in_Indiana: but still growing
07/7/05 22:22:36 Cheryl-TX: i am not sure i understand
07/7/05 22:23:04 Cheryl-TX: it sounds like it is doing well to me
07/7/05 22:23:07 Jana_in_Indiana: can there be too much variegation -- too much white to the point it's not good for the plant
07/7/05 22:23:55 Cheryl-TX: well i guess it would have a hard time with photosynthesis
07/7/05 22:24:18 Cheryl-TX: but if it is getting big it must be doing ok
07/7/05 22:24:22 Jana_in_Indiana: Shellie, that should be nice, you want a good handler!
07/7/05 22:24:37 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, so as long as it keep growing, don't worry?
07/7/05 22:25:15 Cheryl-TX: i would think it is ok,
07/7/05 22:25:21 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks!
07/7/05 22:26:09 Cheryl-TX: i don't have that many variegated violets
07/7/05 22:26:29 Jana_in_Indiana: well, I can fix that!  LOL!
07/7/05 22:26:55 Shellie_CA: yeah you can Jana lol  lol
07/7/05 22:27:01 Cheryl-TX: if your violet is getting real big i would put a support ring on it
07/7/05 22:27:13 Jana_in_Indiana: already have it on it
07/7/05 22:27:31 Cheryl-TX: my large violets are grown with a ring
07/7/05 22:27:37 Jana_in_Indiana: darn rings are a pain in the a$$!
07/7/05 22:28:04 Shellie_CA: Pat Hancock said that if I really like the pink Variegated that i need to get Buckeye Remember Ohio
07/7/05 22:28:23 Shellie_CA: its half pink
07/7/05 22:28:29 Cheryl-TX: i like the ones that have the pot built in to the ring
07/7/05 22:29:07 Cheryl-TX: i love the pink but my husband is not crazy about it
07/7/05 22:29:16 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I haven't seen those!  How do you show them?
07/7/05 22:29:42 Jana_in_Indiana: Shellie -- dang it girl!  You would pick one Buckeye I don't think I have!
07/7/05 22:29:56 Cheryl-TX: you can't show with the ring on, but it hleps train them to stand out
07/7/05 22:30:03 Jana_in_Indiana: but lots of Buckeye have pink variegation!
07/7/05 22:30:09 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
07/7/05 22:30:12 Shellie_CA: you don't show them in those pots you train them in them but for show they come out of them
07/7/05 22:30:31 Cheryl-TX: and the ring keeps the leaves out and they get even light
07/7/05 22:30:38 Jana_in_Indiana: oh!  I now have the catalog w/ photos, Anngela finally got it all scanned & resized, but it's still big!
07/7/05 22:30:59 Jana_in_Indiana: the rings I have just slip up over the pot to the rim
07/7/05 22:31:21 Shellie_CA: the advantage is that you don't have to repot - you place your violet it its pot inside the training pot
07/7/05 22:31:32 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, ok
07/7/05 22:32:03 Jana_in_Indiana: Pat's Buckeye catalog that is!
07/7/05 22:32:41 Shellie_CA: the training pot has small holes all over the top where you can place toothpicks to hold leaves in position
07/7/05 22:32:43 Cheryl-TX: i use the rings with the rubberbands and put them on another pot and slip my potted violet in that pot
07/7/05 22:32:58 Cheryl-TX: they are volkman pots
07/7/05 22:33:10 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I'll have to check them out
07/7/05 22:33:56 Shellie_CA: yes but they are not made anymore and are hard to find - I found some at a AV show that were used and bought them immediately
07/7/05 22:33:59 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl, why put the ring on one pot & then slip another pot into it?
07/7/05 22:35:00 Cheryl-TX: nancy did a nice job on support rings with violet voice http://groups.msn.com/TheVioletVoiceTestSite/leafsupportrings.msnw
07/7/05 22:35:31 Cheryl-TX: it is easier to get them on with out a plant in them
07/7/05 22:35:55 Cheryl-TX: i have broken plant leaves trying to get the ring on
07/7/05 22:36:17 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, ok!
07/7/05 22:36:56 Jana_in_Indiana: I doubt I'll ever show, clubs have rules requiring attendance at % of meetings -- they're in Ohio!  LOL!  Indy club doesn't have shows
07/7/05 22:37:27 Cheryl-TX: you can make some nice cheap rings with those plastic picnic plate holders
07/7/05 22:37:58 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that should work!  I got these from Cape Cod at convention
07/7/05 22:38:10 Shellie_CA: interesting site I will ahve to exsplore it more after chat
07/7/05 22:38:37 Cheryl-TX: well i have to go and clean up my mess,
07/7/05 22:38:37 Shellie_CA: I bookmarked it
07/7/05 22:38:46 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Cheryl!
07/7/05 22:38:49 Shellie_CA: good nite Cheryl
07/7/05 22:39:10 Cheryl-TX: nite ya'll
07/7/05 22:39:18 Jana_in_Indiana: I'd better go too, g'nite shellie!
07/7/05 22:39:28 Shellie_CA: good nite Jana
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07/7/05 22:40:19 Cheryl-TX: How is your sister inlaw, Debbie
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07/7/05 23:31:53 Cathy-In-PA: Hi Jana
07/7/05 23:32:44 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Cathy!
07/7/05 23:33:07 Jana_in_Indiana: I didn't realize I was still in the chat, LOL
07/7/05 23:33:26 Cathy-In-PA: lol is chat over
07/7/05 23:33:27 Jana_in_Indiana: heard it say welcome & beep!  I was triming my dogs
07/7/05 23:33:38 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, but did you need anything
07/7/05 23:34:09 Jana_in_Indiana: it began 3 and 1/2 hours ago
07/7/05 23:34:12 Cathy-In-PA: no just havent been in awhile so I figure i would check in but ty
07/7/05 23:34:21 Jana_in_Indiana: no problem!
07/7/05 23:34:51 Cathy-In-PA: tc I hope to make it to the next one
07/7/05 23:35:02 Cathy-In-PA: nite
07/7/05 23:35:06 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite!
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