07/28/05 19:44:52 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.138.20] 07/28/05 19:45:04 Clare_KS Logs Out 07/28/05 19:57:58 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34] 07/28/05 19:58:32 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.138.20] 07/28/05 19:58:38 Clare_KS: Hi Tony 07/28/05 19:58:58 Tony__IL: hi Clare 07/28/05 19:59:22 Tony__IL: Jana should be her soon 07/28/05 19:59:30 Tony__IL: here soon 07/28/05 19:59:35 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.194.197.214] 07/28/05 19:59:45 Tony__IL: hi Jan a 07/28/05 19:59:50 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Clare & Tony! 07/28/05 20:00:14 Clare_KS: Hi 07/28/05 20:00:32 Clare_KS: Just saw Barb :) 07/28/05 20:00:36 Tony__IL: did you get any variegated leaves in the box? 07/28/05 20:00:45 Clare_KS: We bought some leaves from bloomin' Jungle together. 07/28/05 20:01:02 Clare_KS: Me? Yes, I got a couple. 07/28/05 20:01:11 Jana_in_Indiana: I got 39 varieties, they were UNDER the 70+ gift leaves! 07/28/05 20:01:23 Tony__IL: LOL 07/28/05 20:01:24 Jana_in_Indiana: I paid for 70 variegated varieties! 07/28/05 20:01:48 Jana_in_Indiana: & they're flat, like they've been pressed or ironed! 07/28/05 20:01:54 Clare_KS: did you pick the ones you wanted or took the grab bag? 07/28/05 20:02:34 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.138.87.208] 07/28/05 20:02:35 Jana_in_Indiana: I picked, NOT the 'our choice' option 07/28/05 20:02:39 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sherry! 07/28/05 20:02:42 Clare_KS: Hi Sherry, I just saw Barb :) 07/28/05 20:02:51 Clare_KS: That's what we did, Jana 07/28/05 20:03:00 sherry__(Mo): Hi!! 07/28/05 20:03:01 Jana_in_Indiana: did you get what you ordered? 07/28/05 20:03:16 sherry__(Mo): Great Clare! 07/28/05 20:03:31 Jana_in_Indiana: Clare, who did you order with? 07/28/05 20:03:39 Clare_KS: all but one, and then several gift leaves. 07/28/05 20:03:50 Jana_in_Indiana: several, likew how many? 07/28/05 20:04:00 Clare_KS: hmmm, let me go count... 07/28/05 20:04:23 Jana_in_Indiana: my box was over 100 leaves, placed in a plastic walmart bag, all on top of each other, with the variegated ones on bottom 07/28/05 20:04:38 Tony__IL: Hi Sherry 07/28/05 20:04:39 Brenda__Al Logs in [12.217.40.181] 07/28/05 20:04:41 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm NOT happy! 07/28/05 20:04:45 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Brenda! 07/28/05 20:04:46 sherry__(Mo): LOL-Hi Tony! 07/28/05 20:05:02 Brenda__Al: hi all 07/28/05 20:05:04 Tony__IL: hi Brenda 07/28/05 20:05:33 sherry__(Mo): Hi Brenda 07/28/05 20:05:40 sherry__(Mo): who were they from Jana? 07/28/05 20:05:42 Brenda__Al: why are you not happy Jana 07/28/05 20:05:50 Jana_in_Indiana: bloomin jungle 07/28/05 20:06:00 Jana_in_Indiana: my box was over 100 leaves, placed in a plastic walmart bag, all on top of each other, with the variegated ones on bottom 07/28/05 20:06:02 Brenda__Al: and??? 07/28/05 20:06:05 Clare_KS: Jan a, about 6 07/28/05 20:06:20 Jana_in_Indiana: ordered 70 variegated standards, got 39! 07/28/05 20:06:49 Clare_KS: oh, I see why you're upset. I thought the 39 were in ADDITION to your 70. 07/28/05 20:06:49 Carol_SK Logs in [142.165.187.101] 07/28/05 20:06:52 sherry__(Mo): Did she say what happened to the rest of your order? 07/28/05 20:06:54 Jana_in_Indiana: several are brown mush 07/28/05 20:07:04 Jana_in_Indiana: no, no note in the box 07/28/05 20:07:08 sherry__(Mo): Hi Carol 07/28/05 20:07:13 Tony__IL: hi Brenda 07/28/05 20:07:14 Carol_SK: Hi All 07/28/05 20:07:20 Brenda__Al: I wouldn't be happy either. Not a good thing to have said about that company 07/28/05 20:07:21 sherry__(Mo): I'd sure email her Jana 07/28/05 20:07:22 Jana_in_Indiana: I have an e-mail written, but haven't sent it yet 07/28/05 20:07:27 Tony__IL: hi Carol 07/28/05 20:07:36 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Carol! 07/28/05 20:07:53 Carol_SK: Hi Ton y, Hi Jana, where was the parcel from? 07/28/05 20:08:00 Brenda__Al: hi Tony and all others 07/28/05 20:08:01 Jana_in_Indiana: Bloomin Jungle 07/28/05 20:08:05 Clare_KS: New York 07/28/05 20:08:06 Carol_SK: ahh 07/28/05 20:08:28 Clare_KS: I talked to her over the weekend, she said they were packing over a hundred boxes. 07/28/05 20:08:31 Jana_in_Indiana: Carol, my box was over 100 leaves, placed in a plastic walmart bag, all on top of each other, with the variegated ones on bottom 07/28/05 20:08:58 Clare_KS: weren't they individually packaged? 07/28/05 20:09:02 Carol_SK: oh, my G osh!!! 07/28/05 20:09:03 sherry__(Mo): Was the box insulated? 07/28/05 20:09:08 Tony__IL: Art & Dixie have quit doing business as Windy City Violets. I contacted her about some pots and she has a lot of supplies she wants to get rid of. Anyone interested and I will let you know what she has and how much $$ 07/28/05 20:09:10 Clare_KS: Mine were all stapled with the name and description. 07/28/05 20:09:21 Jana_in_Indiana: I got 39 variegated varieties, BUT paid for 70 variegated standards, they were UNDER the 70+ gift leaves! 07/28/05 20:09:38 Jana_in_Indiana: it has some peanuts in it sherr y 07/28/05 20:09:45 Clare_KS: I wonder why you got so many gift leaves? 07/28/05 20:09:52 sherry__(Mo): Sure Tony! I like the tubs for my standards and azaela pots for trailers 07/28/05 20:10:12 Jana_in_Indiana: Send me the list please T? 07/28/05 20:10:25 Brenda__Al: have you order from them before Jana 07/28/05 20:10:27 sherry__(Mo): Bummer Jana 07/28/05 20:10:49 Tony__IL: maybe will post her list when I get to the 3 sisters board and let you know 07/28/05 20:10:57 Jana_in_Indiana: I think she consideres them to be the sub's for the other variegated AV's I ordered, I e-mailed her & told her twice that I only collect variegated standards! 07/28/05 20:11:15 Jana_in_Indiana: no, never have ordered from Linda before 07/28/05 20:11:54 Carol_SK: maybe never again 07/28/05 20:12:10 Brenda__Al: has anyone else order from them? 07/28/05 20:12:12 Jana_in_Indiana: those e-mailes were before the box was shipped, like 2 weeks before & she replied to them 07/28/05 20:12:57 KYK_MD Logs in [12.77.45.68] 07/28/05 20:13:02 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi K! 07/28/05 20:13:11 sherry__(Mo): I'd bought a few ebay auctions along time ago and was really disappointed, but everyone has talked so highly of her, I thought maybe they were trying to do better 07/28/05 20:13:13 KYK_MD: Hi Jana!!! 07/28/05 20:13:14 Brenda__Al: hello 07/28/05 20:13:26 KYK_MD: Hi everyone!!! 07/28/05 20:13:29 sherry__(Mo): Hi KYK 07/28/05 20:13:30 Carol_SK: what is the last name 07/28/05 20:13:35 Carol_SK: Hi KYK 07/28/05 20:13:37 Tony__IL: is KYK Kim? 07/28/05 20:13:55 KYK_MD: Hi Tony, yes it's Kimberly 07/28/05 20:14:03 Carol_SK: Linda's I mean 07/28/05 20:14:12 Tony__IL: Hi Kimberly 07/28/05 20:14:21 Jana_in_Indiana: Bloomin' Jungle 07/28/05 20:14:39 KYK_MD: So what are we talking about? 07/28/05 20:15:00 Jana_in_Indiana: topic is gel2root & other rooting gels 07/28/05 20:15:14 Brenda__Al: has anyone ever dealt with Cedar Creek before 07/28/05 20:15:23 Jana_in_Indiana: no 07/28/05 20:15:25 Tony__IL: Jana's order from Blooming Jungle so far 07/28/05 20:15:55 Tony__IL: No, but they have sold a lot of stuff on eBay 07/28/05 20:16:15 Jana_in_Indiana: if I was just starting a collection I would be thrilled, well not with the mashed variegated ones, but...... 07/28/05 20:16:25 sherry__(Mo): I'd got things from Ebay a long time ago too-but don't remebet what and don't remeber complaining so it must have been ok 07/28/05 20:16:45 Brenda__Al: back to rooting gel, sorry to have butted in on Jana 07/28/05 20:16:48 sherry__(Mo): From Cedar Creek that is 07/28/05 20:16:53 sherry__(Mo): Sorry Jana 07/28/05 20:17:15 Jana_in_Indiana: we haven't started the gel talk yet Brenda, so you're not butting in! :) 07/28/05 20:17:25 Tony__IL: go for it J. You're up to bat 07/28/05 20:17:46 Jana_in_Indiana: geee thanks T! 07/28/05 20:18:02 Jana_in_Indiana: first, not all the gel products are the same 07/28/05 20:18:10 KYK_MD: I've just started growing violets for the second time and most of my collection is from ebay and I've not had an issue. 07/28/05 20:18:25 Jana_in_Indiana: most like Docs are made to dip the start into them place into your growing medium 07/28/05 20:19:05 Tony__IL: what's the diff between gel2root and the stuff Del was using? 07/28/05 20:19:21 Jana_in_Indiana: Gel2Root is the only product I know of (with the exception of sterile tissue cluture medium) where you grow the start/cutting entirely in that gel 07/28/05 20:19:51 Tony__IL: how much do you use per leaf? 07/28/05 20:19:53 Jana_in_Indiana: Del has a recipe for hydrating those water crystals, then using them for starting leaves, it works well for him 07/28/05 20:20:16 Jana_in_Indiana: with Gel2Root, I used 1 ounce or less per leaf, in 1 ounce solo cups 07/28/05 20:20:29 Carol_SK: I had babies grow on the leaf I put to root in the gel like Del uses 07/28/05 20:20:52 Clare_KS: Carol, how did they do when you transplanted them? 07/28/05 20:20:52 KYK_MD: Where do you get it from? 07/28/05 20:20:56 Okie Logs in [68.12.41.9] 07/28/05 20:21:05 Jana_in_Indiana: great Carol, I tried it & it worked like the water does here, rotted everything, LOL! 07/28/05 20:21:08 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Charlene! 07/28/05 20:21:11 Okie: Good evening everyone :) 07/28/05 20:21:12 Tony__IL: J, how long do you leave the leaf in the gel 07/28/05 20:21:15 Carol_SK: they are still too tiny to transplant yet 07/28/05 20:21:16 Tony__IL: Hi Charlene 07/28/05 20:21:16 sherry__(Mo): Hi Charlene 07/28/05 20:21:19 goj62 Logs in [172.166.199.92] 07/28/05 20:21:26 Brenda__Al: dumb question...why do we need this type product? 07/28/05 20:21:26 Tony__IL: hi Judi 07/28/05 20:21:29 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Judi! 07/28/05 20:21:41 Carol_SK: I get it from the dollar store Kimberly 07/28/05 20:21:44 sherry__(Mo): Hi Judi 07/28/05 20:21:57 Brenda__Al: hi Judi... busy bee person 07/28/05 20:21:59 goj62: hi you,ll what did I miss? 07/28/05 20:22:00 KYK_MD: HI Charlene, Hi Judi! Oh wow. 07/28/05 20:22:02 Jana_in_Indiana: I prefer to put the leaf into soil after it has developed a strong root syate, but you can leave it in the gel till babies are formed 07/28/05 20:22:25 Clare_KS: Jan a did you have any trouble with the gel drying out? 07/28/05 20:22:44 Jana_in_Indiana: it's an alternate way to start leaves, some people have a difficult time starting leaves in soil or vermic/perlite 07/28/05 20:23:13 Jana_in_Indiana: the gel will dry out if you don't do it right 07/28/05 20:23:18 Brenda__Al: thank you 07/28/05 20:23:22 Tony__IL: what is you success rate the gel vs. soil mix? 07/28/05 20:23:26 Clare_KS: what is "right"? 07/28/05 20:23:29 KYK_MD: So what's the right way, Jana? 07/28/05 20:23:32 Jana_in_Indiana: after filling the solo cups & putting the leaves in them 07/28/05 20:24:10 Jana_in_Indiana: you them get a tub or something, place the solo cups into it & then add water to the bottom of the tub, then seal it air tight 07/28/05 20:24:14 Cathy_Ohio Logs in [172.156.166.25] 07/28/05 20:24:22 Jana_in_Indiana: that prevents evaporation of the gel 07/28/05 20:24:24 sherry__(Mo): Hi Cathy 07/28/05 20:24:26 Tony__IL: hi Cathy 07/28/05 20:24:27 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Cathy! 07/28/05 20:24:38 Cathy_Ohio: Hi Everyone 07/28/05 20:25:06 KYK_MD: hi Cathy1 07/28/05 20:25:13 Clare_KS: When I did it that way, the leaves rotted from the high humidity. 07/28/05 20:25:28 Jana_in_Indiana: for the other gels, like Doc's, you just dip the petiole into the gel & then plant them into your soil, making a hole first so you don't remove the gel when inserting the petiole 07/28/05 20:26:00 KYK_MD: So what other brands are out there and what are the differences? 07/28/05 20:26:05 Jana_in_Indiana: rotted where? 07/28/05 20:26:57 Clare_KS: the leaves rotted 07/28/05 20:27:15 Jana_in_Indiana: all of the others are made to dip the cutting or petiole into them -plant, Gel2Root is made to grow the cutting or leaf till it has roots & or babies, without using your soil or medium 07/28/05 20:27:40 Jana_in_Indiana: Clare, did the rot begin at the leaf tip, petiole, or where? 07/28/05 20:27:55 sherry__(Mo): I had the same problem Clare. Del's didn't work for me either 07/28/05 20:27:58 Clare_KS: where the leaf entered the gel 07/28/05 20:28:16 Tony__IL: who carries the Doc's stuff? 07/28/05 20:28:24 Clare_KS: The ones I didn't seal up like that did fine, I transplanted them today. 07/28/05 20:28:41 Jana_in_Indiana: the leaf shouldn't actually touch the gel, only the petiole is inserted into the gel 07/28/05 20:28:43 Carol_SK: my AVs in Del's gel were fine, no rotting but the begonia cutting rotted on me 07/28/05 20:30:09 Jana_in_Indiana: Charley's has Doc's & Clonex, I think 07/28/05 20:30:15 Jana_in_Indiana: also gel2root 07/28/05 20:30:38 Jana_in_Indiana: http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/index.cfm?page=_productdetails&productid=8145&cid1=175&cid2=423&cid3=-99 07/28/05 20:30:51 Jana_in_Indiana: that should be the gel2root link 07/28/05 20:30:56 sherry__(Mo): now I'll have to rey a few not covered and see how that does for me Clare 07/28/05 20:31:10 sherry__(Mo): But I'll wait until the weather is cooler 07/28/05 20:31:11 Brenda__Al: does it make roots grow faster than it would in av soil 07/28/05 20:31:18 Jana_in_Indiana: most hydroponics places carry rooting hormone gel of one kind or another 07/28/05 20:31:54 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, it contains rooting hormones & they do form faster 07/28/05 20:32:17 Brenda__Al: a lot faster? 07/28/05 20:32:47 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm not saying you should try it, it's just another thing you can try if you are having trouble getting leaves rooted 07/28/05 20:33:24 Jana_in_Indiana: about twice as fast for me 07/28/05 20:33:50 Brenda__Al: that makes me want itlol 07/28/05 20:34:28 Clare_KS: I have to get some dinner...brb... 07/28/05 20:34:43 Okie: So Jana, how long from placing leaf into gel until you have mouse ears? 07/28/05 20:34:50 Carol_SK: I think sometimes it is just neat to try new things for the experience 07/28/05 20:34:57 Jana_in_Indiana: I got this gel2root because at the time, I couldn't keep leaves alive any other way, LOL 07/28/05 20:35:04 Jana_in_Indiana: me too Carol! 07/28/05 20:35:39 Jana_in_Indiana: Okie, that depends on the age of the leaf, genetics , etc 07/28/05 20:35:48 Jana_in_Indiana: easily within a month or less for me 07/28/05 20:36:16 Okie: I understand but have you done the comparison with placing in both gel and soil to see which is quicker to produce mouse ears? 07/28/05 20:37:02 goj62: well I,m gonna order it and give it a try not doing so good the other way just wish could order more than qt. size 07/28/05 20:37:05 Jana_in_Indiana: well Charlene, I'll let you do that experiment & report back to all of us, LOL! 07/28/05 20:37:20 sherry__(Mo): LOL 07/28/05 20:37:39 Jana_in_Indiana: no, I haven't done that, I was too busy killing all the leavesin soil, LOL! It was quite a while ago 07/28/05 20:37:59 Brenda__Al: lol Jana 07/28/05 20:38:05 Jana_in_Indiana: now I use it as the 1st step when taking tissue culture AV's out of the sterile medium 07/28/05 20:38:28 Okie: You are using leafs in Pats mix now aren't you Jana? 07/28/05 20:38:32 Jana_in_Indiana: be sure to order the quart bottle! 07/28/05 20:38:37 Jana_in_Indiana: yes 07/28/05 20:38:48 Tony__IL: how many plants did you end up with the culture? 07/28/05 20:38:52 Jana_in_Indiana: those 6 packs just waste gel & money! 07/28/05 20:39:06 Jana_in_Indiana: I havew no idea Ton y! 07/28/05 20:39:31 Tony__IL: 50+ or 100+ ? LOL 07/28/05 20:39:36 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll let you know when they're successfully growing in pats soil, I'm sure you'll want some, ;) 07/28/05 20:39:43 Jana_in_Indiana: yes! 07/28/05 20:40:01 Jana_in_Indiana: any more gel questions? 07/28/05 20:40:30 Brenda__Al: about how much does a qt cost 07/28/05 20:40:40 Jana_in_Indiana: there is a much more detailed chat about Gel2Root in the chat logs, Discovery Chats, if anyone cares to read it, it's on VR 07/28/05 20:40:55 Jana_in_Indiana: maybe 12 for 1 quart? 07/28/05 20:41:04 Steverd Logs in [67.185.124.42] 07/28/05 20:41:06 Jana_in_Indiana: I got 4 at once, it's cheaper when you buy more 07/28/05 20:41:10 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Steve! 07/28/05 20:41:11 Cathy_Ohio: speaking of pat's soil how much does that recipe make? 07/28/05 20:41:19 Carol_SK: Hi Steve 07/28/05 20:41:21 Tony__IL: Steve is back again 07/28/05 20:41:27 Jana_in_Indiana: 10-12 gallons I think 07/28/05 20:41:30 Steverd: Hi , just stopping by for a few minutes, to see what's happening tonight! 07/28/05 20:41:32 sherry__(Mo): Hi Steve!! We didn't scare you away last night?!! 07/28/05 20:41:40 Jana_in_Indiana: see, we didn't scare him away! 07/28/05 20:41:48 Jana_in_Indiana: :P Sherry! 07/28/05 20:41:51 sherry__(Mo): Great!! 07/28/05 20:42:20 Jana_in_Indiana: have you ever used any of the rooting gels Steve? 07/28/05 20:42:30 Jana_in_Indiana: for leaves or suckers/long necks? 07/28/05 20:42:51 Jana_in_Indiana: Doc's, Clonex, whatever 07/28/05 20:42:52 Steverd: I haven't used gels, but do use Rootone when restarting a plant that had a long neck 07/28/05 20:43:09 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks! 07/28/05 20:43:33 KYK_MD Logs Out 07/28/05 20:43:44 Jana_in_Indiana: which # Steve? #1? 07/28/05 20:43:59 Jana_in_Indiana: 0.01% IBA? 07/28/05 20:44:33 Jana_in_Indiana: oops, it's 0.1% 07/28/05 20:46:04 Jana_in_Indiana: has anyone else used the rooting hormone powder? 07/28/05 20:46:29 Okie: I have many times 07/28/05 20:46:32 Jana_in_Indiana: I always used it on long necks & suckers 07/28/05 20:46:33 Carol_SK: Jana have you been starting all of your leaves lately in gel2 root 07/28/05 20:46:35 Tony__IL: am trying it but no results to report yet 07/28/05 20:46:35 Clare_KS: Ja na are you ready to sell Pat's mix yet? 07/28/05 20:46:41 Cathy_Ohio: I've tried one by schultz 07/28/05 20:46:54 Brenda__Al: I used a wally world, no faster than soil 07/28/05 20:46:58 Steverd: I use this: http://www.reedsgreenhouse.com/rootone.jpg 07/28/05 20:47:08 Jana_in_Indiana: no Carol, only using it for the TC babies now, as the 1st step out of the sterile medium 07/28/05 20:47:10 Okie: I agree with Brenda 07/28/05 20:47:22 Carol_SK: I only use the #1 rooting hormone with suckers and long necks 07/28/05 20:47:27 Cathy_Ohio: I agree with brenda too 07/28/05 20:47:37 Jana_in_Indiana: Clare, yes! Pat's soil is ready to go 07/28/05 20:47:51 Cathy_Ohio: Jana how much does that recipe make? 07/28/05 20:48:10 Jana_in_Indiana: 10 or so gallons, I think 07/28/05 20:48:16 Jana_in_Indiana: maybe 12 07/28/05 20:48:22 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks for the link Steve! 07/28/05 20:48:36 Cathy_Ohio: Jana do you use it? 07/28/05 20:48:55 Jana_in_Indiana: use Pat's soil? Oh YES! 07/28/05 20:49:14 Cathy_Ohio: what kind did you use before that? 07/28/05 20:49:31 Jana_in_Indiana: 1:1:1 07/28/05 20:49:34 Cathy_Ohio: ? 07/28/05 20:50:15 Cathy_Ohio: does anyone else in here use her soil mix? 07/28/05 20:50:22 Jana_in_Indiana: I even start my leave in it, once the babies sprout, it's no time before they push the dome up & off! 07/28/05 20:50:56 Jana_in_Indiana: Christy has been using it for a while too 07/28/05 20:51:03 Tony__IL: 1 peat:1 perlite:1 vermic Cath y 07/28/05 20:51:05 Clare_KS: I'll have to find the recipe again and go buy stuff. 07/28/05 20:51:08 Jana_in_Indiana: Okie, you're using it, right? 07/28/05 20:51:12 Cathy_Ohio: thanks tony 07/28/05 20:51:23 Okie: I LOVE it LOL 07/28/05 20:51:28 Cathy_Ohio: clare it makes 10 or so gallons 07/28/05 20:51:34 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I'm sorry Cathy, didn't understand you '?' 07/28/05 20:51:44 Cathy_Ohio: that is ok Jana 07/28/05 20:51:55 Carol_SK: Jana when I used the ingredients from you I ended up with some molding, what did I do wrong? 07/28/05 20:52:10 Jana_in_Indiana: that's why Tony & I are both here, one of us usually gets it, LOL 07/28/05 20:52:32 Tony__IL: Caro l was it damp? 07/28/05 20:52:33 Jana_in_Indiana: like mold on top of the soil in the pots or in your tub of soil? 07/28/05 20:53:11 Carol_SK: on the top of the soil, it was moist I didn't think it was really damp 07/28/05 20:53:24 Carol_SK: in the pots that I had domed 07/28/05 20:53:39 Tony__IL: maybe let it dry out more before you store it 07/28/05 20:54:01 Jana_in_Indiana: that means you're growing conditions are good! You 'could' use physan, but just rub your finger over it & it'll go away 07/28/05 20:54:02 Carol_SK: it wasn't being stored, it was supposed to be rooting leaves 07/28/05 20:54:17 Tony__IL: OK 07/28/05 20:54:32 Carol_SK: no physan... so it won't rot everything? 07/28/05 20:54:41 Jana_in_Indiana: if the leaves rotted, then too moist, but some mold on properly moist soil is not a problem 07/28/05 20:54:48 Cathy_Ohio: mold means good growing conditions? 07/28/05 20:54:51 Carol_SK: no the leaves were sound 07/28/05 20:54:59 Jana_in_Indiana: ok 07/28/05 20:55:01 Tony__IL: the compost I had used in the mix was a little damps so I let it dry out before mixing it in 07/28/05 20:55:10 Jana_in_Indiana: that's your proof! ;) 07/28/05 20:55:37 Okie: Jana, am I suppose to sterilize the mix before using it? 07/28/05 20:55:40 Carol_SK: well, I will have to get brave and try it again, I got leery there for a bit 07/28/05 20:55:47 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm not sure if it's actually a mold or fungus, but it's not harmful, just unsightly 07/28/05 20:56:07 Tony__IL: got any NOIDS you can try it out on? 07/28/05 20:56:34 Carol_SK: me? sure tons lol 07/28/05 20:56:35 Cathy_Ohio: what is a noid? 07/28/05 20:56:46 Tony__IL: No ID 07/28/05 20:56:50 Okie: No Identification 07/28/05 20:56:50 Jana_in_Indiana: Okie, that's up to you. You can also add DE, but if you do, add more perlite -- DE makes it hold more water somehow, or so I've found here 07/28/05 20:57:02 Cathy_Ohio: like the kind that come from walmart? 07/28/05 20:57:11 Jana_in_Indiana: right 07/28/05 20:57:11 Okie: Thanks Jana 07/28/05 20:57:24 Cathy_Ohio: ahh just learned something...lol 07/28/05 20:58:24 Jana_in_Indiana: I was looking for Floyd to come tonight! He has questions about gel2root 07/28/05 20:58:35 Brenda__Al: so much to learn , so little time 07/28/05 20:58:42 Jana_in_Indiana: guess I'll send him a copy of the chat log 07/28/05 20:59:35 Cathy_Ohio: last night I learned about trailors and tonight about noids 07/28/05 20:59:36 Carol_SK: Jana for my next experiment I think I will add things to the gel crystals when I hydrate them and do a comparison as to what grows babies faster 07/28/05 21:00:11 Jana_in_Indiana: thing like what? Fertilizer & superthrive or hormones or what? 07/28/05 21:00:40 Jana_in_Indiana: be sure to let us know how it works for you Carol! 07/28/05 21:00:46 Carol_SK: ya, all of the things like that, I am not sure what kind of hormones I would use... got any suggestions 07/28/05 21:00:52 Steverd: Gel2root sounds very interesting, any good USA source of it? 07/28/05 21:01:05 Jana_in_Indiana: Charley's greenohouse 07/28/05 21:01:14 Jana_in_Indiana: http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/index.cfm?page=_productdetails&productid=8145&cid1=175&cid2=423&cid3=-99 07/28/05 21:01:40 Brenda__Al: how do you use superthrive 07/28/05 21:01:52 Jana_in_Indiana: I think a couple other places carry it, but they charge more 07/28/05 21:01:57 Tony__IL: you HAVE to have another window open J. NO ONE can type that fast LOL 07/28/05 21:02:26 Tony__IL: Superthrive is 1 drop / gallon 07/28/05 21:02:36 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL T! I have a favorite places, & just click the edit>find thingy my daughter showed me, then copy it here 07/28/05 21:02:46 Steverd: I have one of their catalogs here, 07/28/05 21:02:53 Carol_SK: and a gallon is how many quarts? 07/28/05 21:03:01 Tony__IL: 4 07/28/05 21:03:04 Cathy_Ohio: 4 07/28/05 21:03:05 Jana_in_Indiana: it in the propaation scetion Stev e 07/28/05 21:03:10 Victoria Logs in [209.43.56.120] 07/28/05 21:03:12 Steverd: Wonder how well (gel2root) would work on a bloom stalk 07/28/05 21:03:14 Clare_KS: Tony the label says 1/4 teas per gallon. 07/28/05 21:03:16 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Victoria! 07/28/05 21:03:22 Tony__IL: Hi Victoria 07/28/05 21:03:27 Carol_SK: thanks just that Canadian metric handicap here lol 07/28/05 21:03:29 Victoria: hi all 07/28/05 21:03:31 Tony__IL: 1/4 tsp ? 07/28/05 21:03:54 Clare_KS: yes 07/28/05 21:03:55 Jana_in_Indiana: never use it that strong, except when soaking shipped leaves with sugar water, and I rinse them after that 07/28/05 21:04:21 Brenda__Al: my wal mart has started carrying superthrive 07/28/05 21:04:26 Tony__IL: I'm pretty sure the label says 1 drop 07/28/05 21:04:35 Jana_in_Indiana: http://www.metric-conversions.org/volume/liters-to-gallons.htm 07/28/05 21:04:41 Jana_in_Indiana: try that Carol, save it too! 07/28/05 21:05:02 Cathy_Ohio: Jana, explain about soaking leaves please 07/28/05 21:05:05 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, Wally world does have some stuff we want! 07/28/05 21:05:12 Carol_SK: I have a conversion in my favorites but it can't do two things at once tonight 07/28/05 21:06:25 Jana_in_Indiana: I mix 1 tablespoon sugar, 1/2 teaspoon superthrive into 1 gallon water (about 75 degrees), cover entire leaf & petiole (first recut bottom edge of petiole) till they are firm & look like they did on the plant 07/28/05 21:06:37 Tony__IL: think 1 gallon is ~ 4 1/2 L 07/28/05 21:06:44 Carol_SK: Wally world IS WalMart? right? 07/28/05 21:06:53 Jana_in_Indiana: then I soak them in 10% bleach water for 3 minutes, rinse well & plant 07/28/05 21:06:57 Jana_in_Indiana: yup! 07/28/05 21:07:12 Carol_SK: what does the bleach do? 07/28/05 21:07:20 Cathy_Ohio: Jana, why do you do that? 07/28/05 21:07:48 Clare_KS: Ton y, I just got the bottle. It clearly says 1/4 per gallon. 07/28/05 21:07:53 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I do add ACE to remove the chlorine & chloramines from the gallon of water (then plunk them into bleach water, what am I thinking???) :D 07/28/05 21:08:11 Tony__IL: 10% bleach kills any bacteria, etc 07/28/05 21:08:19 Jana_in_Indiana: kills bugs, fungus, rot, etc -- but won't kill eggs 07/28/05 21:08:39 sherry__(Mo): On Superthrive Clare? 07/28/05 21:08:41 Cathy_Ohio: thank you for that information 07/28/05 21:08:47 Jana_in_Indiana: I only do this with leaves that are not from my own plants, uaually shipped to me 07/28/05 21:08:59 Clare_KS: Yes, on Superthrive 07/28/05 21:09:15 sherry__(Mo): Mine says 1 to 2 drops per gallon 07/28/05 21:09:29 Jana_in_Indiana: remember to rinse them after removing form the bleach water 07/28/05 21:09:52 Clare_KS: Maybe I have a newer bottle with new directions? 07/28/05 21:10:02 sherry__(Mo): Maybe they've changed their formiula? 07/28/05 21:10:37 sherry__(Mo): I'd be afraid to use that much unless it's a weaker solution 07/28/05 21:11:06 Jana_in_Indiana: haven't changed formula, just want us to use it up faster & buy more ;) 07/28/05 21:11:09 Clare_KS: Where do you see one drop? 07/28/05 21:11:15 Tony__IL: Sherr y, well I'll be dipped. Mine does too, but reaaad the small print underneath and it says 1 drop / small cupful. Have to get better glasses. LOL 07/28/05 21:11:35 sherry__(Mo): LOL Tony 07/28/05 21:11:42 Jana_in_Indiana: across the top of the bottle, pink background, it says 200 Gallon DROP-A-GAL 07/28/05 21:11:59 Clare_KS: Look at the directions on the back. 07/28/05 21:12:03 Jana_in_Indiana: oops, it's 2,000 07/28/05 21:12:07 Carol_SK: lol 07/28/05 21:12:57 goj62: it,s made a differant in my plants out side for sure they look a lot healther 07/28/05 21:13:00 Jana_in_Indiana: says for very soft plants or CONSTANT feeding use 1 minum drop per gallon 07/28/05 21:13:12 sherry__(Mo): I couldn't afford to use 1/4 tsp a gallon-I'd use a bottle every other week! 07/28/05 21:13:15 Tony__IL: well if they made the print a little BIGGER, we could get it straight LOL 07/28/05 21:13:28 Jana_in_Indiana: right! 07/28/05 21:13:34 sherry__(Mo): I'm sticking with the 1 to 2 drops 07/28/05 21:13:47 Jana_in_Indiana: read the last sentence under QUANTITIES 07/28/05 21:14:00 goj62: me too but need to get a dropper 07/28/05 21:14:10 Carol_SK: Jana mine has no label, Laffin 07/28/05 21:14:15 Jana_in_Indiana: 1 minum per gallon, 1 ounce per 500 gallons 07/28/05 21:14:18 Clare_KS: that's for DAILY use, Jan a 07/28/05 21:14:52 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, don't you use a constant feed? Like mat, wicking or??? 07/28/05 21:14:55 sherry__(Mo): But it is daily use-constant feed 07/28/05 21:15:33 Clare_KS: Someone should write to them and get it clarified. 07/28/05 21:15:34 Jana_in_Indiana: 1 drop = 1 minum, they just don't want you to use that small amount & not buy more bottles as quickly, LOL 07/28/05 21:15:39 Tony__IL: e-mail techsupport@superthive.com and ask for a larger label LOL 07/28/05 21:15:51 sherry__(Mo): LOL 07/28/05 21:15:58 Jana_in_Indiana: the label is on the web Ton y, you can read it there 07/28/05 21:16:05 Brenda__Al: how often do you use it...confused 07/28/05 21:16:13 Tony__IL: is it any bigger? 07/28/05 21:16:20 sherry__(Mo): Thanks Jana-I've been straining my eye balls! 07/28/05 21:16:21 Jana_in_Indiana: http://www.shamanshop.net/store/proddetail.cfm/ItemID/66775.0/CategoryID/10000.0/SubCatID/1035.0/file.htm 07/28/05 21:16:44 Jana_in_Indiana: I use 1 drop per gallon, every time I fill reservoirs or water 07/28/05 21:17:05 Tony__IL: now how in the heck did you get that so quick? Think the psychic hot line must have call you... 07/28/05 21:17:22 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL 07/28/05 21:17:26 Brenda__Al: with fertilizer too 07/28/05 21:17:33 Jana_in_Indiana: it's from my 'favorites list again T! 07/28/05 21:17:40 Tony__IL: yes I use it with fert 07/28/05 21:17:55 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, this is vitamins, add fert. too 07/28/05 21:18:10 Jana_in_Indiana: also can use ST with FE 07/28/05 21:18:26 sherry__(Mo): did you say "psychotic" hot line Tony-just kiddin' Jana!! 07/28/05 21:18:45 Tony__IL: LOL goo one Sherry 07/28/05 21:18:49 Tony__IL: good 07/28/05 21:18:56 sherry__(Mo): LOL 07/28/05 21:18:58 Jana_in_Indiana: yup! That's it, psychotic! You found me out! *) 07/28/05 21:19:15 Brenda__Al: what is st 07/28/05 21:19:29 Okie: Super Thrive 07/28/05 21:19:31 Tony__IL: Super Thrive 07/28/05 21:19:33 Jana_in_Indiana: I keep my dropper attached to the bottle with a rubber band, so it's always there 07/28/05 21:19:34 sherry__(Mo): Super Thrive 07/28/05 21:19:34 Brenda__Al: never mind 07/28/05 21:20:11 sherry__(Mo): My screen keeps blinking-so if I disappear you'll know it got me 07/28/05 21:20:20 Tony__IL: 16 drops/ml J? 07/28/05 21:20:22 Jana_in_Indiana: don't let us get to you Brenda, we all want through what you're feeling now, too much info to absorb at once 07/28/05 21:20:38 Jana_in_Indiana: soon it'll be so easy you won't believe it! 07/28/05 21:20:48 Brenda__Al: not enough paper lol 07/28/05 21:20:55 Jana_in_Indiana: 15 - 16 with the dropper I have T 07/28/05 21:20:57 Carol_SK: What company makes ST\ 07/28/05 21:21:06 Brenda__Al: notes, notes 07/28/05 21:21:17 Jana_in_Indiana: it's the vitamin institute, LOL 07/28/05 21:21:18 Tony__IL: there you go Carol, another conversion factor 07/28/05 21:21:32 Carol_SK: lol T ony 07/28/05 21:21:48 Jana_in_Indiana: 5 ml = 1 teaspoon 07/28/05 21:21:54 Victoria: 2 drops is .1 ml 07/28/05 21:22:24 Tony__IL: really depends upon how you hold the dropper. Straight up or at an angle 07/28/05 21:22:25 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, it depends on the size of the dropper opening 07/28/05 21:23:05 Jana_in_Indiana: & the surface tension 07/28/05 21:23:20 Carol_SK: if your plants aren't growing fast enough the dropper opening was too small, if they keel over it was a tad large 07/28/05 21:23:29 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL 07/28/05 21:23:33 Brenda__Al: lol 07/28/05 21:23:37 Tony__IL: way to techie for this old lab tech LOL 07/28/05 21:23:38 sherry__(Mo): I wish they made it wirh a dropper in the lid 07/28/05 21:23:39 goj62: wher eis a good place to get droppers 07/28/05 21:23:50 Tony__IL: pharmacy 07/28/05 21:23:53 Jana_in_Indiana: drug store 07/28/05 21:24:19 goj62: that what I was thinking sure don't see everyday 07/28/05 21:24:20 Carol_SK: so which company makes Super Thrive? 07/28/05 21:24:28 Brenda__Al: hit up grandkids meds 07/28/05 21:24:39 Brenda__Al: for dropper 07/28/05 21:24:52 Jana_in_Indiana: vitamin institute 07/28/05 21:25:04 goj62: daughter is nurse hint hint 07/28/05 21:25:10 Carol_SK: oh, sorru I did not recognize that as a company 07/28/05 21:25:36 Cathy_Ohio Disconnects 07/28/05 21:25:47 Brenda__Al: got daughter in law nurse hummmm 07/28/05 21:26:44 Okie: Good night all, see ya tomorrow :) 07/28/05 21:26:50 Brenda__Al: Judi, are you sure we aren't twins? 07/28/05 21:26:53 Okie Logs Out 07/28/05 21:27:16 goj62: beginning to wonder about that 07/28/05 21:27:23 Brenda__Al: lol 07/28/05 21:28:01 Steverd Logs Out 07/28/05 21:28:23 Brenda__Al: maybe it's just a southern "thang" 07/28/05 21:28:59 sherry__(Mo): LOL 07/28/05 21:29:27 Jana_in_Indiana: BRB 07/28/05 21:30:45 Tony__IL: made in USA by Vitamin Institue Original World-Lifting Lide Complete, 12610 Taticoy St.Sout, North Hollywood, Ca 91605 and it took a 10x loop to read that! LOL 07/28/05 21:31:08 Clare_KS: Sleep beckons..night all :) 07/28/05 21:31:09 sherry__(Mo): LOL Tony 07/28/05 21:31:17 Clare_KS Logs Out 07/28/05 21:31:17 sherry__(Mo): Nite Clare 07/28/05 21:31:19 Tony__IL: nite Clare 07/28/05 21:32:13 Carol_SK: Tony did you say that you had trailers? 07/28/05 21:32:13 goj62: i have learned a lot from the nortern gals for sure don,t have a clue about the southern gals except what I ,ve learned thur this group 07/28/05 21:32:30 Tony__IL: a couple trailer, yes 07/28/05 21:32:45 Carol_SK: just a couple? which ones? 07/28/05 21:33:08 Tony__IL: well, Judi, thay talk funny down south. LOL 07/28/05 21:33:09 Brenda__Al: I agree Judi. I get so much infro in these chats 07/28/05 21:33:34 Tony__IL: Sweet Amy Sue and Colorbook trail come to mind 07/28/05 21:34:32 goj62: tony that just what I thought when I was UP there too 07/28/05 21:34:42 Brenda__Al: I like hearing what people use or have tried, etc 07/28/05 21:35:17 Tony__IL: might not have to re-invent the wheel that way 07/28/05 21:35:31 Carol_SK: thanks T ony FC2 tells me they are both standards do they get really large? 07/28/05 21:35:37 goj62: me too that,s why I ,ve always got my nose in the chats 07/28/05 21:36:04 Brenda__Al: I can't understand why once you the leave the south noone talks right! 07/28/05 21:36:04 goj62: do you need a special pot for a trailer? 07/28/05 21:36:19 sherry__(Mo): They like shallow pots 07/28/05 21:36:49 sherry__(Mo): But you can put perlite in the bottom of a pot if you don't have a shallow pot 07/28/05 21:37:04 Tony__IL: Like I said, the only reason I know more than you it that I have screwed up more than you have LOL 07/28/05 21:37:16 Carol_SK: lol 07/28/05 21:37:21 goj62: good to know got to write that one down 07/28/05 21:37:26 sherry__(Mo): Me too Tony! 07/28/05 21:37:34 Tony__IL: Caro l, not yet really large 07/28/05 21:38:18 sherry__(Mo): Carol, do you have any trailers? 07/28/05 21:38:52 Carol_SK: I have one NOID and a couple of trailer leaves down but no babies yet. But I love the NOID trailer 07/28/05 21:38:54 Tony__IL: both are in 3" pots still 07/28/05 21:39:15 Carol_SK: that sounds still quite little 07/28/05 21:39:28 Tony__IL: surprised you found a NOID triler 07/28/05 21:39:33 Tony__IL: trailer 07/28/05 21:39:34 sherry__(Mo): Me too! 07/28/05 21:40:25 Carol_SK: A friend of mine had it and gave me a plant she had started, I think it is a semi, beautiful pink rosette blooms, all over it like a decorated tree, I love it 07/28/05 21:40:47 Tony__IL: sounds cool 07/28/05 21:40:49 Carol_SK: maybe in another life, it had a name??? 07/28/05 21:41:01 Jana_in_Indiana: Pat's on the phone, sorry 07/28/05 21:41:13 Carol_SK: tell her we said hi 07/28/05 21:41:22 Tony__IL: Caro l, post a pic of it 07/28/05 21:41:27 sherry__(Mo): probably-but would probably be hard to figure out for sure which one 07/28/05 21:41:39 Carol_SK: I don't have digital T ony... 07/28/05 21:41:44 Tony__IL: rats 07/28/05 21:42:01 sherry__(Mo): Are the trailer leaves you have down from your noid or from other trailers? 07/28/05 21:42:02 Carol_SK: you said it, but maybe Santa will bring one for Christman 07/28/05 21:42:03 Carol_SK: s 07/28/05 21:42:33 Carol_SK: I have some of the NOIDS down but I have some named ones down too 07/28/05 21:42:50 sherry__(Mo): which ones? 07/28/05 21:43:08 Tony__IL: by the way I did get my Ajohn's. She put on the pkg the wrong zip code and they ended up about 300 miles south of here. 07/28/05 21:43:14 Carol_SK: If I were more familiar with the names I could tell you which ones... Laffin I knew you were gonna ask that 07/28/05 21:43:31 sherry__(Mo): LOL 07/28/05 21:43:38 Carol_SK: I will go see if I can figure it out just a sec 07/28/05 21:43:42 sherry__(Mo): were they ok Tony? 07/28/05 21:43:49 Tony__IL: she mailed them from North Carolina last Sat 07/28/05 21:44:17 Tony__IL: surprised they were not mush, but so far they look good 07/28/05 21:44:55 sherry__(Mo): good! 07/28/05 21:45:06 sherry__(Mo): Victoria, what state are you in? 07/28/05 21:45:31 Tony__IL: also included a gift Green Eyes from 1957 07/28/05 21:47:22 sherry__(Mo): Just looked it up Tony-might be pretty! 07/28/05 21:47:22 Brenda__Al: who did you order from Tony 07/28/05 21:47:23 Tony__IL: took some pics as to how they were packed. Will post them in the photos section later. 07/28/05 21:47:57 Tony__IL: Daisha East but forget the seller ID name 07/28/05 21:48:12 Carol_SK: I have leaves rooting of Rob's Boolaroo, Little Chippery Trail. Rob's Lilli Pilli. Dresden Doll and Dancin' Trail 07/28/05 21:48:26 Carol_SK: if I don't kill them I should have babies soon 07/28/05 21:48:43 sherry__(Mo): You'll love those Carol! 07/28/05 21:49:05 sherry__(Mo): I don't have Little Chippery Trail but have the others 07/28/05 21:49:08 Carol_SK: I really can't wait, I am so excited 07/28/05 21:49:43 sherry__(Mo): Rob's Boolaroo was the first leaf I ever put down-so I was extremely excited when it finally bloomed! 07/28/05 21:50:26 Carol_SK: yes, I'll bet! When I start using Pats soil again mine will take off, but I don't want to do that till I move, they may be too big to handle lol 07/28/05 21:50:55 Tony__IL: eBay seller ID is luvsavs 07/28/05 21:51:02 sherry__(Mo): When are you moving? 07/28/05 21:51:21 Carol_SK: there are a lot of AV leaves on eBay aren't there 07/28/05 21:51:28 Carol_SK: In August 07/28/05 21:51:33 Tony__IL: only about 500+ 07/28/05 21:51:45 Carol_SK: laffin, that is a few 07/28/05 21:51:48 sherry__(Mo): That's right around the corner ! 07/28/05 21:52:17 Tony__IL: Some days there is <400 and other days almost 800 07/28/05 21:52:20 Victoria: good nite everyone. i am teaching summer school and i have to go to bed now. 07/28/05 21:52:23 Brenda__Al: Tony, can you use DE in regular soil mix.. not for wicking 07/28/05 21:52:29 Tony__IL: nite 07/28/05 21:52:30 Carol_SK: nite Victoria 07/28/05 21:52:36 Brenda__Al: nite 07/28/05 21:52:38 sherry__(Mo): Nite Victoria 07/28/05 21:52:51 Victoria Logs Out 07/28/05 21:52:59 Tony__IL: don't see why you can use the DE 07/28/05 21:53:01 Carol_SK: DE is Diat... Earth right? 07/28/05 21:53:23 Brenda__Al: right 07/28/05 21:53:44 Tony__IL: it is very microscopc and has sharp edges that cuts soft bodies insects/larvea 07/28/05 21:53:53 Carol_SK: I am sure you can use it even if you are not wicking 07/28/05 21:54:04 Tony__IL: looks like talc powder 07/28/05 21:54:48 Tony__IL: really a lot of diff shapes under the microscope 07/28/05 21:55:05 Carol_SK: you've been studying it T ony? 07/28/05 21:55:12 Brenda__Al: is there anyone here that does not wick 07/28/05 21:55:19 Carol_SK: I don't 07/28/05 21:55:28 Tony__IL: remember it from Biology in college 07/28/05 21:55:47 Carol_SK: ahhh, I took English and History in College 07/28/05 21:56:01 goj62: i do both like wiking tho 07/28/05 21:56:29 goj62: and I can spell sometimes 07/28/05 21:56:48 Tony__IL: mine spill dew know work too well either 07/28/05 21:56:57 Carol_SK: I have been terribly inconsistant with my violets they would be a lot happier and more lush if I got with the program 07/28/05 21:57:21 sherry__(Mo): LOL Tony 07/28/05 21:57:41 Tony__IL: mine are growing into eachother but I am NOT going to add another stand 07/28/05 21:57:54 Carol_SK: it must have that Southern accent thing T ony 07/28/05 21:57:54 sherry__(Mo): Same here Carol-since the kids moved in, my AV's are really neglected 07/28/05 21:58:10 Brenda__Al: how many stands do you have 07/28/05 21:58:23 Tony__IL: 4 stands and about 500 plants 07/28/05 21:58:27 goj62: got 7 new plants today so now have to find a nursery to see if I can find a few things been using 1-1-1 07/28/05 21:58:47 Carol_SK: Keep repeating that T ony, I am not going to add another stand lol 07/28/05 21:59:00 Tony__IL: right LOL 07/28/05 21:59:21 Brenda__Al: what did you get Judi 07/28/05 21:59:24 sherry__(Mo): is about all I can half way keep up with right now Tony-and I say "half way" 07/28/05 21:59:35 Carol_SK: T ony are yours reviving and doing OK now, they were struggling awhile back, did they come back for you? 07/28/05 21:59:50 Tom_in_WI Logs in [24.208.8.222] 07/28/05 22:00:17 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tom 07/28/05 22:00:23 Tony__IL: some did and some are in ICU. But I ain't gonna baby them. If they make it OK if not well......... 07/28/05 22:00:24 Carol_SK: Hi Tom 07/28/05 22:00:33 Tony__IL: hi Tom 07/28/05 22:00:35 Brenda__Al: hello 07/28/05 22:00:45 Tom_in_WI: H everyone! 07/28/05 22:00:54 Carol_SK: sometimes when they lose their momentum it takes a long time 07/28/05 22:01:05 goj62: rob,s penny annie --happy harold (that I love ) 07/28/05 22:01:18 Tony__IL: give them a little kick in the pants LOL 07/28/05 22:01:40 sherry__(Mo): Happy Harold is vintage 07/28/05 22:01:45 Carol_SK: Sherry how old are the 'kids' tht moved in 07/28/05 22:01:56 goj62: got to find list Brenda 07/28/05 22:02:05 Brenda__Al: pretty. I got a story to tell you in email tomorrow Judi 07/28/05 22:02:15 sherry__(Mo): LOL-my daughter is 25, her husband is 33 and the grandkids are 6 and 3 LOL 07/28/05 22:02:18 goj62: ok 07/28/05 22:02:34 Carol_SK: wow, I can see where the violets might be taking a backseat 07/28/05 22:02:47 Tony__IL: OMG, and I thought John (son) 25 and single was bad 07/28/05 22:02:58 sherry__(Mo): They're in the process of moving-finally! 07/28/05 22:03:21 Tony__IL: soon I hope. Hope John moves soon too LOL 07/28/05 22:03:22 Carol_SK: your violets will thank them lol 07/28/05 22:03:48 goj62: happy harold is a favoite here for sure have to look it up and find out more about it 07/28/05 22:03:51 Carol_SK: I still have one at home and I ain't lettin the others get near the door\ 07/28/05 22:04:05 Tony__IL: LOL 07/28/05 22:04:16 Tony__IL: teach the 6 year old to help water 07/28/05 22:04:18 sherry__(Mo): I'm supposed to be moving too-but am going to take my time-probably live both places the next 6 months or so 07/28/05 22:04:30 Carol_SK: Happy Harold looks really nice 07/28/05 22:04:39 sherry__(Mo): The 6 year old is a member of one of the local clubs Tony! 07/28/05 22:04:40 Tony__IL: how far is it Sherr y 07/28/05 22:04:53 sherry__(Mo): about 20 minutes away 07/28/05 22:05:03 Tony__IL: not too bad then 07/28/05 22:05:11 Brenda__Al: you are getting nice avs Judi 07/28/05 22:05:15 Jana_in_Indiana: back! 07/28/05 22:05:16 sherry__(Mo): She loves her Av's! 07/28/05 22:05:22 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry for rinunning off 07/28/05 22:05:26 sherry__(Mo): and she's gotten into the streps 07/28/05 22:05:49 Carol_SK: Does it take a lot of room for streps? 07/28/05 22:05:54 sherry__(Mo): She even had to go when I met with Barb and Clare 07/28/05 22:05:57 Tony__IL: that's a nice project for her 07/28/05 22:06:09 sherry__(Mo): They do take more room as they get largere 07/28/05 22:06:16 Tom_in_WI Logs Out 07/28/05 22:06:31 Brenda__Al: making memories Sherry 07/28/05 22:06:36 sherry__(Mo): I hope! 07/28/05 22:06:40 Jana_in_Indiana: please add Pat's husband to your prayers, he's in the hosp. w/ seizures 07/28/05 22:06:52 Tony__IL: will do 07/28/05 22:07:00 Carol_SK: oh, my 07/28/05 22:07:12 sherry__(Mo): She wanted to put something in the local show but I told her to wait until next year as everything is such a mess around our house 07/28/05 22:07:12 goj62: prayers in flight as we speak 07/28/05 22:07:17 Jana_in_Indiana: I wish I had a gradnkid to love AV's with me! 07/28/05 22:07:22 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks! 07/28/05 22:07:32 sherry__(Mo): That's too bad Jana-hope he gets ok 07/28/05 22:07:34 Carol_SK: maybe some day Jana 07/28/05 22:07:43 Tony__IL: give it some time J 07/28/05 22:07:52 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, I'm will to wait till one is married, LOL! 07/28/05 22:08:00 sherry__(Mo): I could sure let you borrow these two sometime Jana-LOL-you'd send them back in ahurry! 07/28/05 22:08:02 Jana_in_Indiana: what did I miss? 07/28/05 22:08:02 Carol_SK: might be a plan 07/28/05 22:08:05 Tony__IL: good idea LOL 07/28/05 22:08:14 Brenda__Al: I got 2 grandsons and no hope of a girl 07/28/05 22:08:38 Tony__IL: got 1 of each so far 07/28/05 22:08:42 sherry__(Mo): These are the only two I'll ever have-so you know they are spoiled! 07/28/05 22:08:46 Jana_in_Indiana: what on earth am I going to do with all these greenies Linda sent me????? 07/28/05 22:09:00 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll bet there are over 70! 07/28/05 22:09:05 Brenda__Al: root and share lol 07/28/05 22:09:06 sherry__(Mo): LOL-put em down and give em away 07/28/05 22:09:22 Tony__IL: sounds like I need to make a road trip LOL 07/28/05 22:09:23 Carol_SK: Jana there is a 'greenie conspiracy' out to get you 07/28/05 22:09:32 Jana_in_Indiana: got the variegated ones soaking now, took 3 gallons of rehydrating solution to get them all soaking! 07/28/05 22:09:36 Brenda__Al: talk to that company 07/28/05 22:09:42 goj62: sent to your freinds 07/28/05 22:09:47 Jana_in_Indiana: sounds like YOU need to make a road trip T! 07/28/05 22:10:07 Carol_SK: maybe she is trying to faze out her greenies too 07/28/05 22:10:08 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm afraid they'll all be much after 2-3 more days in the mail 07/28/05 22:10:12 Tony__IL: will have to get John up early to help drive 07/28/05 22:10:22 Jana_in_Indiana: Pat said I should send them back to Linda, LOL 07/28/05 22:10:32 Brenda__Al: there you go 07/28/05 22:10:46 sherry__(Mo): Do it Jana! Tell her it wasn't what you ordered 07/28/05 22:10:58 Tony__IL: but you have to re-label and re-bag them all 07/28/05 22:11:04 Carol_SK: well if Blue Bird had done that to/for me it would have been awesome 07/28/05 22:11:16 Jana_in_Indiana: wouldn't you think if only variegated AV's were ordered, you would only sub from other variegates? 07/28/05 22:11:26 Carol_SK: just throw them in the walmart bag 07/28/05 22:11:40 sherry__(Mo): good idea Carol 07/28/05 22:11:43 Jana_in_Indiana: I know, that's the thing, if I were just starting my collection, this would have been amazing! 07/28/05 22:12:23 Jana_in_Indiana: the greenies are all still in bags, I don't have trhem soaking yet, did my favs first! 07/28/05 22:12:31 Carol_SK: yes, and you would think she would have been informed enough to figure out you were not a novice 07/28/05 22:12:52 Tony__IL: maybe I shoudl order 20 and see how many free ones I get 07/28/05 22:12:54 Jana_in_Indiana: guess I'll plant them & whatever survives I'll give away 07/28/05 22:13:09 Jana_in_Indiana: she should have known that by seeing me at convention! 07/28/05 22:13:28 Jana_in_Indiana: the sale is over, she has already stripped her AV's 07/28/05 22:13:29 rboring Logs in [172.142.83.155] 07/28/05 22:13:34 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Rita 07/28/05 22:13:39 Carol_SK: I am quite sure she knew it J ana 07/28/05 22:13:53 Tony__IL: hi Rita 07/28/05 22:14:04 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, especially since I sent her 2 e-mails telling her that! 07/28/05 22:14:09 sherry__(Mo): Hi Rita 07/28/05 22:14:22 Brenda__Al: can you keep re using the soaking mixture for a batch of leaves 07/28/05 22:14:26 Carol_SK: must have been having a bad day, a senior moment or is one very blond lady 07/28/05 22:14:28 Tony__IL: what's up Rita? 07/28/05 22:14:30 Jana_in_Indiana: next summer do get in on her sale though tony! 07/28/05 22:14:34 rboring: Hi everyone-thought I was too late 07/28/05 22:14:56 Jana_in_Indiana: well, chat did begin 2 hours & 15 minutes ago, but we're still here! :) 07/28/05 22:15:07 Jana_in_Indiana: yaking as usual 07/28/05 22:15:11 Tony__IL: but who's counting LOL 07/28/05 22:15:32 Jana_in_Indiana: Sherry! ;P 07/28/05 22:15:36 rboring: alot of late nighters I see. How did the chat go? 07/28/05 22:15:37 Jana_in_Indiana: :P 07/28/05 22:16:11 Tony__IL: Jan a handled the questions well, I thought 07/28/05 22:16:11 Brenda__Al: good chat....lots of notes 07/28/05 22:16:31 sherry__(Mo): LOL 07/28/05 22:16:38 Jana_in_Indiana: did I answer all questions before grabbing the phone? 07/28/05 22:16:49 Tony__IL: think you did good 07/28/05 22:16:53 rboring: great-I was running late tonight, as usual 07/28/05 22:16:56 Carol_SK: I think you got them all 07/28/05 22:17:24 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, ask if you still have any Q's 07/28/05 22:17:32 sherry__(Mo): Has anyone heard from Del? 07/28/05 22:17:35 Tony__IL: clap clap clap applause applause 07/28/05 22:17:42 rboring: what did the chat consist of 07/28/05 22:17:44 Carol_SK: clap clap clap 07/28/05 22:17:45 sherry__(Mo): LOL Tony' 07/28/05 22:17:58 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks T, you get to do shipping next week! :P 07/28/05 22:18:03 sherry__(Mo): gels and super thrive 07/28/05 22:18:03 Tony__IL: not since last Tuesday night (Del) 07/28/05 22:18:22 sherry__(Mo): Hop[e he's doing ok 07/28/05 22:18:35 Tony__IL: sounded like it 07/28/05 22:18:40 Jana_in_Indiana: just tired, wants to go back up there, LOL 07/28/05 22:18:49 rboring: the gels do they really work? I have tried ST.Not so sure on that 07/28/05 22:19:12 Jana_in_Indiana: the gels do really work 07/28/05 22:19:49 rboring: Has anyone tried the cloning machine that Charley's has in their catalog? 07/28/05 22:19:55 Jana_in_Indiana: the 1st chat that went into all the details is in VR's files, Chat Logs > Discovery Chats > Gel2Root 07/28/05 22:20:29 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, funny you should ask! I have one of the clone machines sitting here now, had it since winter, haven't tried it yet 07/28/05 22:20:40 Jana_in_Indiana: not sure if it's like Charleys 07/28/05 22:20:54 Tony__IL: cloning machine??? 07/28/05 22:21:16 rboring: I was about to order one-to see if it was any faster 07/28/05 22:21:16 sherry__(Mo): Try it and tell us about it Jana! 07/28/05 22:21:22 Carol_SK: sounds like science fiction 07/28/05 22:21:27 sherry__(Mo): How much are they? 07/28/05 22:21:42 Brenda__Al: what are they 07/28/05 22:22:13 Jana_in_Indiana: I honestly don't remember the price, got it from a hydroponics place on an after Christmas sale, haven't used it yet 07/28/05 22:22:28 rboring: Charley list 2 one for 79.00 and the other for 149.95 07/28/05 22:22:41 Tony__IL: holy cra* 07/28/05 22:22:54 Jana_in_Indiana: http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/index.cfm?page=_productdetails&productid=8174&cid1=-99&cid2=-99&cid3=-99 07/28/05 22:23:03 Jana_in_Indiana: looks like that one, I think 07/28/05 22:23:18 sherry__(Mo): Guess I won't be buying one! 07/28/05 22:23:41 Jana_in_Indiana: wanted to do some of my roses in it, guess I should stick some of these leaves I got in it now! 07/28/05 22:23:57 sherry__(Mo): LOL Jana 07/28/05 22:24:00 Jana_in_Indiana: no great loss if they die, LOL 07/28/05 22:24:04 rboring: I think it would be fantastic-just can't go that much right now. BTW have any of you renewed your subscription to AVM lately? 07/28/05 22:24:42 sherry__(Mo): I think mine was last December or something like that 07/28/05 22:24:44 Carol_SK: it will probably work wonderfully Jana and your 70 leaves will have 2000 babies each 07/28/05 22:24:48 Jana_in_Indiana: basically it's a power head i set in a large styrofoam box that constantly sprays a very fine mist onto the cutting, with hormones added to water 07/28/05 22:25:02 Jana_in_Indiana: also can use an aquarium heater so the water isn't cold 07/28/05 22:25:12 sherry__(Mo): you don't think AV's would rot? 07/28/05 22:25:25 Carol_SK: I haven't even got my AVMag lately, I have to email them for every single issue 07/28/05 22:25:34 rboring: Have you noticed that the llifetime is now $600.00? 07/28/05 22:25:37 Jana_in_Indiana: that would be a disaster Carol! :< 07/28/05 22:25:46 Carol_SK: yes, it would... 07/28/05 22:25:55 Jana_in_Indiana: I don't know Sherr y 07/28/05 22:26:25 Jana_in_Indiana: never looked at the cost of lifetime membership 07/28/05 22:26:37 goj62: oh no don,t tell me that ( magazine) I got my first issue ordered last months but still haven ,t gotten it 07/28/05 22:27:04 Jana_in_Indiana: they only come every other month 07/28/05 22:27:12 Carol_SK: I have had to email them and tell them every time (even the first) that I did not get my subscription 07/28/05 22:27:17 Brenda__Al: lol Judi, I ordered this month...twins 07/28/05 22:27:24 goj62: hope I don,t have to email than every month 07/28/05 22:27:25 Jana_in_Indiana: so only read 2 or 3 pages a day, make it last! ;) 07/28/05 22:27:41 goj62: cute 07/28/05 22:27:46 Carol_SK: sick 07/28/05 22:27:51 Carol_SK: lol 07/28/05 22:28:00 Jana_in_Indiana: I wonder who keeps getting yours Carol? Maybe a postal worker loves Av's too? 07/28/05 22:28:01 sherry__(Mo): LOL 07/28/05 22:28:14 Tony__IL: still haven't found the one with your article on the tubing around the pots J 07/28/05 22:28:18 Carol_SK: well, in that case maybe I should conceed gracefully! 07/28/05 22:28:28 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that was in the spring T 07/28/05 22:28:40 Jana_in_Indiana: no, get your copies Carol! 07/28/05 22:28:45 Tony__IL: May-June, I think 07/28/05 22:28:56 Jana_in_Indiana: might be, can't remember 07/28/05 22:29:19 Jana_in_Indiana: yah, now I'm famous, been published twice! NOT! LOL 07/28/05 22:29:41 Jana_in_Indiana: Pat made me send in the one about the sinkers 07/28/05 22:29:50 Tony__IL: and I HAVE your autograph 07/28/05 22:30:05 Jana_in_Indiana: yup! Now I can sell them, LOL 07/28/05 22:30:17 Carol_SK: I don't want your autograph Jana just your green leave 07/28/05 22:30:19 Carol_SK: s 07/28/05 22:30:39 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, if I could get them to you -- you couldn't get them to your new place! 07/28/05 22:30:51 Carol_SK: thou shalt not covet Jana's green leaves... 07/28/05 22:31:03 Brenda__Al: lol 07/28/05 22:31:20 Carol_SK: I don't think they would make a trip ANYWHERE at the moment Jana 07/28/05 22:31:21 sherry__(Mo): LOL 07/28/05 22:31:23 Tony__IL: :/ 07/28/05 22:31:56 sherry__(Mo): Jana, some of them might be pretty. I've got several green leaved standards that I love 07/28/05 22:32:09 Carol_SK: except maybe to that cloning machine 07/28/05 22:32:10 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm thinking, if I plant them into small solo cups, & they root, I can mail them off in the fall, before I have to deal with babies -- they do it all the time on ebay & call them leaf pots! 07/28/05 22:32:18 Tony__IL: get some white paint J 07/28/05 22:32:32 Carol_SK: yes, yes !! Jana what an idea 07/28/05 22:32:33 Jana_in_Indiana: sure T! 07/28/05 22:32:38 sherry__(Mo): Go for it Jana 07/28/05 22:32:57 Tony__IL: Just plant them in perlite and vermic..... No soil 07/28/05 22:33:03 sherry__(Mo): Send them to Tony so he'll have to get another stand! 07/28/05 22:33:15 Carol_SK: no soil Jana you can get rid of more of them that way LOL 07/28/05 22:33:15 Jana_in_Indiana: honestly, I'd rather send them back to Linda, but they'd be mush by the time they got there too! 07/28/05 22:33:27 Jana_in_Indiana: oh right, so they can cross the border! 07/28/05 22:33:37 rboring Logs Out 07/28/05 22:33:43 Carol_SK: Laffin, now you got it! 07/28/05 22:33:47 Jana_in_Indiana: Carol is planning to get them, can you tell? ;) 07/28/05 22:33:51 goj62: tony do you mix the perlite & ver. to root 07/28/05 22:34:08 Carol_SK: I am a conniving leaf coveter, and I must repent 07/28/05 22:34:13 Tony__IL: Judi never have used it but some do 07/28/05 22:34:19 Jana_in_Indiana: surely won't waste my Gel2Root on them! :O 07/28/05 22:34:45 Jana_in_Indiana: yah, you'll repent as soon as you get your hands on them!!! LOL 07/28/05 22:34:55 Carol_SK: ROTFLMBO 07/28/05 22:35:01 sherry__(Mo): when I first started out, I just used largwe vermiculite and it worked fine 07/28/05 22:35:08 Carol_SK: can't you just hear me repenting now 07/28/05 22:35:24 Jana_in_Indiana: Sherr y, haven't had time to write back, but I'm in TOTAL agreement! :< 07/28/05 22:35:47 sherry__(Mo): Thanks Jana-so it isn't just me? 07/28/05 22:35:49 Jana_in_Indiana: I *might* have some vermic & perlite, LOL 07/28/05 22:35:53 Jana_in_Indiana: no! 07/28/05 22:36:04 sherry__(Mo): good 07/28/05 22:36:34 Brenda__Al: what mix do yall root with 07/28/05 22:36:52 sherry__(Mo): I just use my regular soil mix now 07/28/05 22:36:54 Jana_in_Indiana: some of these leaves are oldies too, and some champion, it's a shame she sent them to me! 07/28/05 22:37:13 sherry__(Mo): some people are in it for the money 07/28/05 22:37:14 Jana_in_Indiana: I root everything I plan to keep in Pat's soil 7 they grow like weeds! 07/28/05 22:37:31 Jana_in_Indiana: & 07/28/05 22:37:32 Carol_SK: Jana if we pay you surrogate fees would that help? 07/28/05 22:38:01 Jana_in_Indiana: you couldn't afford the fee I would charge for planting 70 leaves I don't want! 07/28/05 22:38:13 Carol_SK: ahhh, ratz! 07/28/05 22:38:13 sherry__(Mo): You'd think they would want to keep their names clean-like Tina at Bloomlovers-she really cared about what she sent 07/28/05 22:38:36 Jana_in_Indiana: I still have the 39 variegated one to plant tonight, then I'll get some of the others soaking, see how they look tomorrow 07/28/05 22:38:47 sherry__(Mo): ant trailers Jana? 07/28/05 22:39:06 Jana_in_Indiana: oh yes, trailers, semi & minis! Guess she can't read! 07/28/05 22:39:31 Jana_in_Indiana: some of the semi & mini are variegated 07/28/05 22:39:38 sherry__(Mo): Oh Jana! Wonder if there's any trailers that I don't have! 07/28/05 22:39:39 Carol_SK: what a shame... 07/28/05 22:40:11 Jana_in_Indiana: can I call you after chat Sherry? 07/28/05 22:40:21 sherry__(Mo): call me any time Jana 07/28/05 22:40:30 Jana_in_Indiana: let me know which ones to try to save first 07/28/05 22:40:44 sherry__(Mo): that's ok-don't worry about it 07/28/05 22:40:48 Jana_in_Indiana: after the variegated standards of course ;) 07/28/05 22:41:02 sherry__(Mo): LOL 07/28/05 22:41:06 Jana_in_Indiana: how about Falling Snow 07/28/05 22:41:10 goj62: yea like the mini,s 07/28/05 22:41:10 sherry__(Mo): got it 07/28/05 22:41:41 goj62: where did you get so many ? 07/28/05 22:41:47 Carol_SK: I can't bear to hear any more 07/28/05 22:41:59 sherry__(Mo): LOL Carol 07/28/05 22:42:01 Carol_SK: I am outta here 07/28/05 22:42:17 Carol_SK: I'm not even kidding, nite 07/28/05 22:42:24 Jana_in_Indiana: Tomboy Blue, Smitten Kitten, Shirl's Happy Tears 07/28/05 22:42:26 Brenda__Al: save them all, we'll be happy to pay postage 07/28/05 22:42:28 sherry__(Mo): Nite Carol! 07/28/05 22:42:31 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Carol 07/28/05 22:42:39 Carol_SK Logs Out 07/28/05 22:42:51 goj62: yea me too 07/28/05 22:42:52 Jana_in_Indiana: confetti trail? 07/28/05 22:42:56 sherry__(Mo): I know some one that would love to have Shirl's Happy tears 07/28/05 22:42:57 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Judi 07/28/05 22:43:14 Jana_in_Indiana: who? 07/28/05 22:43:23 sherry__(Mo): I'm not sure my confetti trail is true-not much fantasy 07/28/05 22:43:31 sherry__(Mo): Nite Judi 07/28/05 22:43:41 goj62: ebay is killing me just got 7 today tho only have a few more to pay for tomorrow 07/28/05 22:43:56 sherry__(Mo): Shirley at my local club loves anything close to her name 07/28/05 22:44:01 Jana_in_Indiana: S. Sigi Falls 07/28/05 22:44:20 Jana_in_Indiana: ebay can get costly! 07/28/05 22:44:25 sherry__(Mo): If I don't have that one-I'd like it-I'd like to have all the species 07/28/05 22:44:41 Jana_in_Indiana: rob's lilli pilli 07/28/05 22:44:47 sherry__(Mo): Can you get them cheaper from a vendor Judi? 07/28/05 22:44:47 goj62: wasn,t going anywhere but guess I will I can take a hint 07/28/05 22:44:57 sherry__(Mo): got that one 07/28/05 22:44:59 Brenda__Al: if you keep the trailers I 'd love to have any of them.. have none 07/28/05 22:45:02 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, not trying to get rid of you! 07/28/05 22:45:13 goj62: don,t know buy from both 07/28/05 22:45:30 sherry__(Mo): Jana doesn't care for trailers Brenda-but they are my passion 07/28/05 22:45:53 Tony__IL: let us know what you are looking for and we'll send you a package Jud i 07/28/05 22:46:02 sherry__(Mo): Anyone that wants leaves or babies this fall-remind me 07/28/05 22:46:02 goj62: I like to many that,s my problem 07/28/05 22:46:06 Brenda__Al: they are so cute in pictures 07/28/05 22:46:08 Jana_in_Indiana: is Neptune an oldie? 07/28/05 22:46:25 sherry__(Mo): Is that one of the original 10? I'm not sure 07/28/05 22:46:29 goj62: just surpise me 07/28/05 22:47:21 Jana_in_Indiana: it from Armacost & Royston 07/28/05 22:47:28 Brenda__Al: whatever Jana doesn't want the wolves will take lol 07/28/05 22:47:37 Tony__IL: send you name/address to tclayt2001@yahoo.com and what your preferences are and see what I can do. Pay me for the postage 07/28/05 22:47:59 Jana_in_Indiana: if only you were lots closer! Can anyone get here by midnight? 07/28/05 22:48:15 Brenda__Al: I wish 07/28/05 22:48:15 Tony__IL: not I 07/28/05 22:48:31 sherry__(Mo): LOL-I'll jump on my broom and be right over Jana 07/28/05 22:48:41 goj62: you got a deal wil do 07/28/05 22:48:51 Tony__IL: my Lear jet is not available tonite 07/28/05 22:49:00 Jana_in_Indiana: dang! 07/28/05 22:49:03 sherry__(Mo): son take it out Tony? 07/28/05 22:49:11 Tony__IL: LOL 07/28/05 22:49:14 Jana_in_Indiana: ever hear of Pat Tracey? 07/28/05 22:49:16 Brenda__Al: what do you have to share Tony 07/28/05 22:49:34 Jana_in_Indiana: that's the AV name, Pat Tracey 07/28/05 22:50:05 goj62: Jana do you sell Pat,s mix 07/28/05 22:50:15 Tony__IL: not sure B renda, will take an inventory but lots of semi, greenies a d variegated 07/28/05 22:50:16 Jana_in_Indiana: I found P. Tracey as a hybridizer, not AV name 07/28/05 22:50:21 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Judi 07/28/05 22:50:27 sherry__(Mo): I've heard of it Jana but never seen it 07/28/05 22:50:57 Jana_in_Indiana: send me an e-mial if you are interested in getting some of Pat's soil 07/28/05 22:50:58 goj62: if I can,t find all at the nuery here tomorrow ( thinking about shipping ) 07/28/05 22:51:09 Tony__IL: B renda send me your e-mail address 07/28/05 22:51:25 Jana_in_Indiana: Remember I intended to price it so people could try it, but them would end up making their own? 07/28/05 22:51:31 Jana_in_Indiana: CrazyCavy@aol.com 07/28/05 22:51:48 Jana_in_Indiana: well, Pat said years ago she sold it for $4.50 a gallon! 07/28/05 22:51:51 goj62: ok 07/28/05 22:51:53 Brenda__Al: ok Tony.bcdragonfly48@yahoo.com 07/28/05 22:52:00 Jana_in_Indiana: I priced it at $5.00 a gallon, LOL 07/28/05 22:52:19 sherry__(Mo): Judi and Brenda, get ahold of me this fall when it's cololer and re mmind me 07/28/05 22:52:51 Brenda__Al: thanks sherry 07/28/05 22:52:53 goj62: ok thanks 07/28/05 22:52:56 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, we all need & WANT reminders for anything we've promised you please? 07/28/05 22:53:01 Tony__IL: got it B renda 07/28/05 22:53:45 Tony__IL: ditto here 07/28/05 22:54:28 Jana_in_Indiana: could probably get by with asking for something we didn't even promise, we never remember, LOL 07/28/05 22:54:58 Brenda__Al: I hope yall don't think I'm begging, sorta sounds that way.. 07/28/05 22:55:00 goj62: no won,t do that ain,t right 07/28/05 22:55:10 Jana_in_Indiana: oh! I still have a bingo prize to mail off, that where 15 of these can go when rooted! 07/28/05 22:55:20 sherry__(Mo): But we wouldn't know-LOL 07/28/05 22:55:28 Jana_in_Indiana: not begging when we're offering ! 07/28/05 22:55:39 Jana_in_Indiana: or thretening to trash them ;) 07/28/05 22:55:39 goj62: unless it,s a new car 07/28/05 22:55:45 Tony__IL: what gooes around comes around, so don't mind sharing 07/28/05 22:55:50 Brenda__Al: lol 07/28/05 22:56:04 Brenda__Al: thanks to all of you 07/28/05 22:56:09 Jana_in_Indiana: and if you ever lose a plant, you know who has one cause you sent it to them! 07/28/05 22:56:15 sherry__(Mo): It would give us more room! 07/28/05 22:56:57 Brenda__Al: well for goodness sakes let me help you got! 07/28/05 22:57:01 goj62: you,ll are sure making it easy for us to learn and grow and love what we do 07/28/05 22:57:05 Jana_in_Indiana: yah, for all thhose babies coming up from my convention & show plant leaves! :O 07/28/05 22:57:10 Brenda__Al: out not got 07/28/05 22:57:24 Jana_in_Indiana: that's what we're trying to do, make it easy & fun 07/28/05 22:57:37 sherry__(Mo): and keep ya hooked-LOL 07/28/05 22:57:46 Jana_in_Indiana: gotta feed the addiction! 07/28/05 22:58:12 Brenda__Al: fell right in that trap 07/28/05 22:58:15 Jana_in_Indiana: & spread the disease, LOL 07/28/05 22:58:28 Brenda__Al: lol 07/28/05 22:58:45 goj62: my hubby ask me honey have you lost it he thinks I,m nuts but he looks for the mailman too 07/28/05 22:58:52 Jana_in_Indiana: sure could use a helper to put leaves down tonight though! 07/28/05 22:58:55 Brenda__Al: learn and laugh in here 07/28/05 22:59:03 Tony__IL: holy smoke is it really about 11 PM, J? 07/28/05 22:59:07 sherry__(Mo): that's for sure-I've finally realized I don't have to have every one I see-now if I could just teach Brittney that! 07/28/05 22:59:19 Jana_in_Indiana: no, only 7 pm, stay up longer T! LOL 07/28/05 22:59:33 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony is going to turn into a pumpkin! 07/28/05 23:00:02 Tony__IL: right 7 PM in Indiana, did they move you off the CA coast? 07/28/05 23:00:07 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite early bird rooster! 07/28/05 23:00:09 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL 07/28/05 23:00:10 goj62: well I for one have got to get my beaty sleep all 3 or 4 hours of it 07/28/05 23:00:15 sherry__(Mo): Tony are you having trouble with your etes again? 07/28/05 23:00:21 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Judi 07/28/05 23:00:27 sherry__(Mo): "eyes" 07/28/05 23:00:31 sherry__(Mo): Nite Judi 07/28/05 23:00:38 Tony__IL: nite Judi 07/28/05 23:00:38 goj62: nite nite and Thanks 07/28/05 23:00:38 Brenda__Al: there is nothing more important than talking about avs Tony 07/28/05 23:00:48 sherry__(Mo): how true! 07/28/05 23:00:49 Brenda__Al: nite 07/28/05 23:01:14 goj62 Logs Out 07/28/05 23:01:35 Tony__IL: just look at the screen and the time and didn't think it was this late. Times flies when you're having fun LOL 07/28/05 23:01:53 Jana_in_Indiana: & when you're dreading all the leaves! 07/28/05 23:01:58 sherry__(Mo): Guess I'll go too-Jana-give me time to run to the basement and throw in a load of laundry 07/28/05 23:01:59 Jana_in_Indiana: lots of work! 07/28/05 23:02:09 Brenda__Al: wish I could help 07/28/05 23:02:13 sherry__(Mo): Night!! 07/28/05 23:02:13 Jana_in_Indiana: got a visitor coming in about 5 minutes 07/28/05 23:02:16 Tony__IL: nite Sherry 07/28/05 23:02:23 Jana_in_Indiana: is it ok if i wait a bit to call? 07/28/05 23:02:32 sherry__(Mo): sure-when ever 07/28/05 23:02:34 Jana_in_Indiana: I wish you could too Brenda! 07/28/05 23:02:36 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out 07/28/05 23:02:37 Jana_in_Indiana: ok S 07/28/05 23:02:37 Tony__IL: donor to the greenies? 07/28/05 23:02:58 Jana_in_Indiana: no, my almost daughter, bringing gifts from my daughter 07/28/05 23:03:16 Jana_in_Indiana: she's been Anngela's best friend since Kindergarten 07/28/05 23:03:25 Tony__IL: think I'll listen to a couple of Stevie Nicks and call it quits too 07/28/05 23:03:27 Jana_in_Indiana: & practically lives here 07/28/05 23:03:28 Brenda__Al: anything new with your son Jana 07/28/05 23:03:33 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Tony! 07/28/05 23:03:46 Jana_in_Indiana: not yet, gotta go to the base Sat for a briefing 07/28/05 23:04:17 Brenda__Al: thanks for the chat. tell us about it Sun. nite 07/28/05 23:04:26 Jana_in_Indiana: & a hog roast! Don't want that, LOL! 07/28/05 23:04:28 Tony__IL Logs Out 07/28/05 23:04:37 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, g'nite Brenda! 07/28/05 23:04:44 Brenda__Al Logs Out 07/28/05 23:04:59 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out 07/29/05 00:33:34 Carolyn_in_CA Logs in [172.193.135.179] 07/29/05 00:33:40 Carolyn_in_CA Logs Out