07/21/05 19:33:59 Millie Logs in [66.214.56.111]
07/21/05 19:34:06 Millie Logs Out
07/21/05 19:37:41 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.195.122.149]
07/21/05 19:48:16 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
07/21/05 19:48:26 Tony__IL: hi Jana
07/21/05 19:48:27 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tony!
07/21/05 19:48:45 Jana_in_Indiana: give me a few, IMing w/ Millie
07/21/05 19:49:12 Tony__IL: Got the name of a wholesaler in Batavia, one of the burbs in Chicago. She's got a greenhouse on the west end of Sterling!!
07/21/05 19:49:28 Tony__IL: Sending me a company catalog UPS
07/21/05 19:49:53 Tony__IL: maybe can get lucky here !!
07/21/05 19:50:46 Tony__IL: Also won an Ajohn's auction and mailer the winner of the other auction to see if he/she wants to trade leaves LOL
07/21/05 19:56:18 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I think Millie is heading into the chat room
07/21/05 19:56:37 Rachel Logs in [216.26.202.108]
07/21/05 19:56:46 joe_bruns Logs in [67.162.11.13]
07/21/05 19:56:48 Jana_in_Indiana: did you have to have a tax ID to get that catalog from Batavia?
07/21/05 19:56:52 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Joe!
07/21/05 19:56:55 joe_bruns: Hi
07/21/05 19:56:56 Tony__IL: hi Rachel
07/21/05 19:56:56 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Rachel!
07/21/05 19:57:03 Rachel: hello Janet , Tony,joe,
07/21/05 19:57:16 Rachel Logs Out
07/21/05 19:57:18 Rachel Logs in [216.26.202.108]
07/21/05 19:57:27 Jana_in_Indiana: having issues Rachel?
07/21/05 19:57:30 Tony__IL: I have a tax ID, but maybe she will give me a price break LOL
07/21/05 19:57:42 Tony__IL: hi Joe
07/21/05 19:57:55 Victoria Logs in [209.43.56.200]
07/21/05 19:58:00 Rachel: Lol  no just hitting the wrong buttons as usual
07/21/05 19:58:02 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Victoria!
07/21/05 19:58:10 Rachel: hello Victoria
07/21/05 19:58:10 Tony__IL: hi Victoria
07/21/05 19:58:12 joe_bruns: Hi Tony. Where in Illinois?
07/21/05 19:58:13 Victoria: hi
07/21/05 19:58:15 Jana_in_Indiana: think I could get that catalog Tony?
07/21/05 19:58:30 Tony__IL: Sterling, IL, NW Illinois
07/21/05 19:58:38 Jana_in_Indiana: Victoria, is this your first chat?'
07/21/05 19:58:48 joe_bruns: I'm Northwest Suburbs of Chicago
07/21/05 19:58:55 Victoria: no,i was there last night
07/21/05 19:58:56 Tony__IL: 2nd chat for her, I think
07/21/05 19:59:33 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, sorry, I missed chat last night, send me to my corner!  :(
07/21/05 19:59:36 Tony__IL: about 1/2 waybetween Rockford and the Quad Cities, Joe
07/21/05 20:00:08 Jana_in_Indiana: & one heck of a drive from Indy!
07/21/05 20:00:16 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
07/21/05 20:00:21 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.138.20]
07/21/05 20:00:22 Tony__IL: got that right, J
07/21/05 20:00:25 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Clare!
07/21/05 20:00:29 Tony__IL: hi Clare
07/21/05 20:00:39 Clare_KS: Hellody :)
07/21/05 20:00:54 Luana_BC_Canada Logs in [207.34.157.106]
07/21/05 20:01:00 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Luana!
07/21/05 20:01:07 Tony__IL: hi Luana
07/21/05 20:01:32 Clare_KS: I was sorry to miss last night...is it posted yet?
07/21/05 20:01:37 Luana_BC_Canada: Hi Jana And Tony and everyone else
07/21/05 20:01:44 Clare_KS: I have an ear infection and was asleep.
07/21/05 20:01:51 Jana_in_Indiana: no, I haven't had time to download it yet Clare
07/21/05 20:02:03 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that can be painful!
07/21/05 20:02:27 Jana_in_Indiana: is it better now Clare?
07/21/05 20:02:37 Millie Logs in [66.214.56.111]
07/21/05 20:02:38 Clare_KS: the pain comes and goes.
07/21/05 20:02:42 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Millie!
07/21/05 20:02:48 Luana_BC_Canada: Hi Millie
07/21/05 20:02:54 Tony__IL: hi Millie
07/21/05 20:03:03 Brenda__Al Logs in [12.217.40.181]
07/21/05 20:03:10 Tony__IL: hi Brenda
07/21/05 20:03:13 Clare_KS: I have to go back to work tomorrow...they gave me a whole half day off to be sick  :p
07/21/05 20:03:17 Jana_in_Indiana: Joe, we try to wait till about 10 or 15 after so the stragglers can get in chat
07/21/05 20:03:23 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Brenda!
07/21/05 20:03:24 Brenda__Al: hi everyone
07/21/05 20:03:27 joe_bruns: No problem.
07/21/05 20:03:35 Luana_BC_Canada: Hi Brenda
07/21/05 20:03:36 Millie: Hi all I need this class since I had a problem loading it on my new computer and Joe helped so much
07/21/05 20:03:42 Jana_in_Indiana: that wasn't muc tine C!
07/21/05 20:03:53 Jana_in_Indiana: time*
07/21/05 20:03:57 Jana_in_Indiana: BRB, sorry!
07/21/05 20:04:23 Tony__IL: Joe, do you also grow AV's?
07/21/05 20:04:39 joe_bruns: No. My wife used to grow them.
07/21/05 20:04:43 Millie: Nice group must be the speaker Joe we welcome you
07/21/05 20:05:05 joe_bruns: She had to give it up a number of years ago, due to back problems.
07/21/05 20:05:25 Tony__IL: Jo e do you work programming in the Chicago area?
07/21/05 20:05:35 joe_bruns: I "grew" enough to maintain my AVSA Judge status.
07/21/05 20:05:51 joe_bruns: I don't program for a living. I'm a physical therapist in a school system.
07/21/05 20:06:13 joe_bruns: Nice to have summers off!
07/21/05 20:06:26 Tony__IL: well you're in good company. I'm a med tech and have a cuople nurses here tonight
07/21/05 20:06:29 joe_bruns: Gives me time to do my hobby (programming).
07/21/05 20:07:30 Tony__IL: how long have you been at it?
07/21/05 20:07:50 joe_bruns: Since I got my first computer, a TRS-80.
07/21/05 20:08:04 joe_bruns: About 15 years or so.
07/21/05 20:08:05 Carol_SK Logs in [142.165.187.101]
07/21/05 20:08:07 Tina Logs in [67.176.91.232]
07/21/05 20:08:09 Millie: Gee I need to talk to you more about Physical theripy for my daughter but will not go into that
07/21/05 20:08:10 Tony__IL: well, that puts a date on it. LOL
07/21/05 20:08:14 Tina: Hello All
07/21/05 20:08:20 Carol_SK: Hi Sorry I am late
07/21/05 20:08:22 Tina: Thank you Joe for doing this for us
07/21/05 20:08:25 Tony__IL: hi Tina
07/21/05 20:08:28 goj62 Logs in [172.175.63.12]
07/21/05 20:08:29 joe_bruns: I enjoy it.
07/21/05 20:08:43 Okie Logs in [68.12.41.9]
07/21/05 20:08:56 Tony__IL: gee all the top dogs are here tonight LOL
07/21/05 20:08:57 Millie: Hi TIna and yes Rachel We are back together
07/21/05 20:08:57 Luana_BC_Canada: Hi Carol
07/21/05 20:09:02 Tony__IL: hi Charlene
07/21/05 20:09:05 joe_bruns: I'm always looking for suggestions to improve the program, so if anybody has suggestions, send them to me (jbruns@qwip.net).
07/21/05 20:09:06 KYK_MD Logs in [12.77.45.216]
07/21/05 20:09:11 Brenda__Al: hi all and Judi
07/21/05 20:09:12 Carol_SK: Hi Luana I was gonna call you the other day
07/21/05 20:09:24 KYK_MD: Hi everyone!
07/21/05 20:09:43 Tina: Joe can you use the little indivual label printers with first class2
07/21/05 20:09:48 Luana_BC_Canada: I've keep meaning to call you too!
07/21/05 20:09:48 Tony__IL: KYK real name?
07/21/05 20:09:56 KYK_MD: Kimberly
07/21/05 20:10:02 Tony__IL: got it
07/21/05 20:10:08 Okie Logs in [68.12.41.9]
07/21/05 20:10:09 Tony__IL: Kimerbly welcome
07/21/05 20:10:13 joe_bruns: I don't think so. It's set up for 8½ x 11
07/21/05 20:10:15 KYK_MD: Thanks!
07/21/05 20:10:17 Jana_in_Indiana: back
07/21/05 20:10:21 Tina: ok just wanted to check
07/21/05 20:10:23 joe_bruns: I could add that, though.
07/21/05 20:10:41 joe_bruns: Sure would be nice for one label.
07/21/05 20:10:51 KYK_MD: Yes it would Joe
07/21/05 20:11:01 Rachel: Joe with the internet and all the newbies it would be really nice if there were a way to copy and paste your entire list with the photo's to  email  so the newbies can choose which violets they want.
07/21/05 20:11:02 joe_bruns: I'll work on that.
07/21/05 20:11:04 Clare_KS > Luana_BC_Canada: Luana, Would you mind a lot if I ask you to change your font color? It's so light I can't read it :) 
07/21/05 20:11:07 Tina: Is there a way to keep first calss on 2 computers and keep them with the same information in each and how do you best do that
07/21/05 20:11:16 Luana_BC_Canada > Clare_KS: okay
07/21/05 20:11:29 joe_bruns: You can do that by creating a PDF file.
07/21/05 20:11:50 joe_bruns: Right now, you would need to have both connected to the Internet.
07/21/05 20:11:53 Shellie_in_CA Logs in [172.192.173.49]
07/21/05 20:11:53 Millie: Joe can I replace the old disk for a current verison? I do pay for the updates It was a problem going to the new computer
07/21/05 20:12:09 Tina: both of my computers are conected to the internet
07/21/05 20:12:18 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Shellie, Tina, Okie, KYK, Judi,
07/21/05 20:12:24 Tina: Hi Jana
07/21/05 20:12:40 Luana_BC_Canada: Hi Tina
07/21/05 20:12:41 Shellie_in_CA: Hi Everyone
07/21/05 20:12:42 joe_bruns: You can purchase an update CD from the AVSA office. It will have the whole program and setup.
07/21/05 20:12:42 KYK_MD: Hi jana!
07/21/05 20:12:54 Luana_BC_Canada: Hi Shellie
07/21/05 20:12:55 Clare_KS: Thanks, Luana :)
07/21/05 20:13:00 Okie: Hi Jana, wish I hadn't been late tonight
07/21/05 20:13:08 Luana_BC_Canada: I aim to please!
07/21/05 20:13:16 Jana_in_Indiana: we're just now starting with FC2
07/21/05 20:13:20 goj62: hi Jana
07/21/05 20:13:21 Tina: Joe if I email you can you explain how to keep both programs on the same wave length
07/21/05 20:13:30 joe_bruns: I was going to add a feature to transfer updates from one computer to another, but ran into a problem.
07/21/05 20:13:37 Clare_KS > Luana_BC_Canada: I'm going blind in my right eye and have trouble seeing against that dark background. Thanks :) 
07/21/05 20:13:40 ladythel Logs in [68.226.107.114]
07/21/05 20:13:47 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Thel!
07/21/05 20:13:52 joe_bruns: It seems that more than a few people are "sharing" their passwords with friends.
07/21/05 20:13:53 Tina: Well now that  would be way to easy LOL
07/21/05 20:13:58 Shellie_in_CA: Hi Thel
07/21/05 20:14:02 Tina: oh I see
07/21/05 20:14:14 Jana_in_Indiana: oh no, that isn't fair to AVSA!
07/21/05 20:14:14 joe_bruns: I'm going to have to tighten up the password protection.
07/21/05 20:14:41 Millie: I can understand that
07/21/05 20:14:42 Tony__IL: getting a little less $$ for the program.
07/21/05 20:14:49 joe_bruns: But then if I add a feature to transfer updates by diskette or CD, it will make it easier for them to "share" the updates.
07/21/05 20:14:55 Tina: I just want to be able to keep them both updated and be able to have the same user database info and added pictures without having to add it to both
07/21/05 20:15:40 Victoria: i am lost here. what program?
07/21/05 20:15:53 Jana_in_Indiana: First Class
07/21/05 20:16:02 Tony__IL: can you backup the user data base incase something would crash?
07/21/05 20:16:22 joe_bruns: The user database info is in two files -- udb.dat and udblist.dat.
07/21/05 20:16:25 Millie: Tina I understand as I have a computer upstairs in the plant room I use for updating and one down here that does all the printing and work
07/21/05 20:16:35 joe_bruns: Just copy those files from one computer to the other.
07/21/05 20:16:44 Tina: yes and it is nice to have the same info in both
07/21/05 20:16:48 Clare_KS: Joe, I'm a newbie and I'd like to see a catagory for the Oringal 10, and other vintage violets that we need to look for.
07/21/05 20:16:49 Tony__IL: got it thanks
07/21/05 20:17:06 Tina: I add photo to mine also and not sure how to transfer those from computer to computer
07/21/05 20:17:14 joe_bruns: There is a field (currently unused) in the database for "vintage."
07/21/05 20:17:31 Jana_in_Indiana: wonderful!
07/21/05 20:17:32 joe_bruns: I'm going to try to add that info for as many of the cultivars as I can.
07/21/05 20:17:45 Millie: Me to Tina
07/21/05 20:17:56 joe_bruns: Also, I plan to add all the old cultivars that have been dropped before 1983.
07/21/05 20:18:11 Tina: That would be wonderful Joe
07/21/05 20:18:21 KYK_MD: I agree
07/21/05 20:18:26 Jana_in_Indiana: me too!
07/21/05 20:18:28 joe_bruns: It would be helpful, but it will take some time to get all that info.
07/21/05 20:18:37 Millie: My unused do you mean we cannot get to it?
07/21/05 20:18:58 joe_bruns: Right now it's blank for each record.
07/21/05 20:19:11 Okie: Joe I am not sure if I missed this earlier, but is there a way to change the two sizes of labels to print?
07/21/05 20:19:21 joe_bruns: You can't see it, because I don't have a place to show it.
07/21/05 20:19:32 joe_bruns: Yes, you can change the sizes.
07/21/05 20:19:40 Millie: OK Understand Thanks Joe
07/21/05 20:19:43 Jana_in_Indiana: how?
07/21/05 20:19:46 Okie: How?
07/21/05 20:19:50 joe_bruns: Go to the Print tab and select the size you want.
07/21/05 20:20:26 Tony__IL: 30 or 14 per page
07/21/05 20:20:35 joe_bruns: You can use either regular address labels (30 to a page), or larger labels (14 to a page.
07/21/05 20:20:58 joe_bruns: You can see what they will look like by choosing Preview...
07/21/05 20:21:01 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm sorry, I need to go, storms on top of me, g'nite all
07/21/05 20:21:06 Tony__IL: looks like the larger have the photo and the smaller ones don't have the photo
07/21/05 20:21:09 Tina: night Jana
07/21/05 20:21:11 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, you'll have to take it from here
07/21/05 20:21:14 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out
07/21/05 20:21:15 Millie: Yes, I do that I had to learn that one but it works great
07/21/05 20:21:23 KYK_MD: night jana!
07/21/05 20:21:23 Tony__IL: nite J
07/21/05 20:21:43 Luana_BC_Canada: nite Jana
07/21/05 20:21:59 joe_bruns: If you're like me, you don't read the instructions, but they do contain a lot of helpful information.
07/21/05 20:22:25 Okie: Yes I understand how to change between the two available on the program but can you change to different sizes other than those two
07/21/05 20:22:34 Millie: LOL Very guilty only read when I get frustrated LOL
07/21/05 20:22:48 KYK_MD: You
07/21/05 20:22:56 KYK_MD: you're not alone millie
07/21/05 20:22:58 joe_bruns: If you lost your instructions, you can download them at http://firstclass2.com/instructions.htm.
07/21/05 20:23:23 joe_bruns: No, just those two sizes now. Do you want another size added? If so, what size?
07/21/05 20:23:24 Tina: No Okie just those 2 sizes
07/21/05 20:23:44 Okie: I would like to be able to print very small return address label sizes to put on the plastic labels
07/21/05 20:23:48 joe_bruns: Had a suggestion to add for single-label printers, such as the Dymo.
07/21/05 20:23:58 joe_bruns: Good idea. I'll add it.
07/21/05 20:24:15 joe_bruns: Of course, you won't be able to fit the whole description on there.
07/21/05 20:24:29 Okie: Right, but would be nice to have the name and date maybe
07/21/05 20:24:33 joe_bruns: How about just the name, hybridizer, and registration info.
07/21/05 20:24:48 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.138.20]
07/21/05 20:24:57 Tina: Even just to print names on small labels would be great
07/21/05 20:25:00 Okie: that was a quick trip Clare
07/21/05 20:25:01 Clare_KS: Was that a tornado?
07/21/05 20:25:07 Millie: WOW that would save me the bad handwritting RIGHT SHELLIE
07/21/05 20:25:26 joe_bruns: It will be in the next version (probably next week).
07/21/05 20:25:29 Shellie_in_CA: you bet
07/21/05 20:25:31 Okie: Yes, that is my problem too, I can't read my handwriting LOL
07/21/05 20:25:44 joe_bruns: Name and hybridizer.
07/21/05 20:25:45 Tina: That or Name and Hybridizer since many have the same name
07/21/05 20:25:48 Okie: Great Joe that would be totally wonderful.
07/21/05 20:25:56 Millie: You are Not alone Okie
07/21/05 20:25:57 Tina: GMTA
07/21/05 20:26:06 Tony__IL: hi Shellie. Guess aunt and uncle got hoem OK
07/21/05 20:26:17 Shellie_in_CA: thats good Tony
07/21/05 20:26:19 Okie: GMTA?????
07/21/05 20:26:20 Tina: Yes Joe that would be great
07/21/05 20:26:35 Tina: Great Minds Think  Alike
07/21/05 20:26:43 Okie: ;)
07/21/05 20:26:52 Millie: Sorry you did not go with Tony Shellie and I could have met you
07/21/05 20:27:07 ladythel: I would like to know how the photo's are chosen because some of them are not very good.
07/21/05 20:27:21 joe_bruns: Many of them are not very good!
07/21/05 20:27:24 Clare_KS > Tina: Tina, would you mind a lot if I ask you to use a dark font? I'm going blind in my right eye and have a lot of trouble seeing the light font on that dark background. 
07/21/05 20:27:34 Shellie_in_CA: how true about the photos
07/21/05 20:27:46 Tina > Clare_KS: sure I will change it back to black for you
07/21/05 20:27:46 Victoria: i have to go. Storm ahead..Initendiana weather.thanks for the chat..nite all.
07/21/05 20:27:46 Carolyn_in_CA Logs in [172.197.22.111]
07/21/05 20:27:51 KYK_MD: But I'd rather have a not so good photo than none at all.
07/21/05 20:28:02 Clare_KS > Tina: Thank you so much!!
07/21/05 20:28:03 Shellie_in_CA: nite Victoria\
07/21/05 20:28:03 Carolyn_in_CA: Hi, everyone
07/21/05 20:28:08 Tina > Clare_KS: Is that better
07/21/05 20:28:11 Millie: sorry victoria
07/21/05 20:28:12 Okie: Another question Joe, I make up lists for AV's as I receive them, is there a way to add them all together to make one printout of what I have?
07/21/05 20:28:12 Shellie_in_CA: hi Carolyn
07/21/05 20:28:15 Tina > Clare_KS: Your Very Welcom
07/21/05 20:28:24 Victoria Logs Out
07/21/05 20:28:24 joe_bruns: Sure.
07/21/05 20:28:25 Clare_KS > Tina: yes, now I can see without putting my nose on the screen :) 
07/21/05 20:28:49 Tony__IL: hi Caroly
07/21/05 20:28:52 Millie: Joe I seem to have a problem deleting old lists?
07/21/05 20:28:52 Tony__IL: n
07/21/05 20:28:52 Okie: Can we replace a bad photo with a good one we find?  Or can you add more than two to one paticular AV?
07/21/05 20:28:58 ladythel: I would rather have none if the photo is to far off.
07/21/05 20:29:01 Rachel Logs Out
07/21/05 20:29:26 joe_bruns: Open one list, then choose Load List... It will ask you if you want to add a list or clear the current list. Choose to add to the list.
07/21/05 20:29:30 Tina: Okie if you have a better one submitt it to joe for the program
07/21/05 20:29:41 joe_bruns: Then keep adding the lists until you have them all on there.
07/21/05 20:29:54 Millie: OK How did I miss that DAH
07/21/05 20:29:54 joe_bruns: Yes, I would like better photos.
07/21/05 20:29:55 Tina: I do that a lot Joe
07/21/05 20:29:58 Okie: Great thanks
07/21/05 20:30:01 joe_bruns: You can add your own, too.
07/21/05 20:30:10 Tina: Yes I have done that also
07/21/05 20:30:12 Carolyn_in_CA: Tony, got zapped again on Ebay by "she who we dare not speak her name"
07/21/05 20:30:34 Tina: who is it Carolyn
07/21/05 20:30:35 joe_bruns: Click on the name, then choose Edit > Add Photo...
07/21/05 20:30:58 Tina > Clare_KS: Great Have a good night
07/21/05 20:31:09 joe_bruns: If you add it to the 'a' position, it will show up as the primary photo. If you add it to the 'd' position, it will be one of the alternate photos.
07/21/05 20:31:25 Clare_KS > Tina: Thanks :) I just went to the eye doc again today, and got bad news.
07/21/05 20:31:35 Carolyn_in_CA: Hope it's not anyone here, Tina.  It's Elmiecat.  She got me two times in two days in the lst minute.  That's how it works, so you can live with it.  There's always another auction!
07/21/05 20:31:45 Tina > Clare_KS: sorry to hear that clare
07/21/05 20:31:46 Okie: Does anyone know how is the best way to light something for acurate color on photos?
07/21/05 20:32:03 joe_bruns: Natural light is the best for most cameras.
07/21/05 20:32:08 Millie: Joe can we still sent photos in that we think are better to AVSA and they Will decide?
07/21/05 20:32:10 joe_bruns: Not direct sunlight.
07/21/05 20:32:11 Okie: Joe how many positions are their for each AV photo?
07/21/05 20:32:13 Tina: Oh she got me too the little rat
07/21/05 20:32:20 joe_bruns: Yes, send them to me.
07/21/05 20:32:22 Clare_KS > Tina: Sorry, I missed what you said..?
07/21/05 20:32:36 Carolyn_in_CA: That's an important question for me too.  I notice that some colors in the blue-violet range are very hard to photograph accurately
07/21/05 20:32:44 joe_bruns: Sometimes I won't add a "better" photo for a number of reasons.
07/21/05 20:32:48 Millie: OK Thanks
07/21/05 20:32:55 Carolyn_in_CA: I will send her poison catnip
07/21/05 20:33:02 Tina: Why is that Joe
07/21/05 20:33:34 joe_bruns: If it's just slightly better, I'll hold on to it until I have a smaller update, because each photo adds to the bandwidth.
07/21/05 20:33:35 Tina: she has to be using auction sniper
07/21/05 20:33:42 Clare_KS: ROTF, Caro...who are you talking about??
07/21/05 20:33:43 KYK_MD: Who decides what photos are chosen?
07/21/05 20:33:51 Tony__IL: I out bid her tonight
07/21/05 20:33:54 Clare_KS: oooo, I HATE auction snipers!!
07/21/05 20:34:04 Tina: it is a program
07/21/05 20:34:11 KYK_MD: What is an auctrion sniper
07/21/05 20:34:19 Tina: Joe what other things are you thinking of adding
07/21/05 20:34:21 joe_bruns: Also, some people have donated hundreds of photos, and I can only use a few of them, so I hate to delete them when they have gone through so much trouble.
07/21/05 20:34:41 Okie: How many positions are available for photos of each AV Joe?
07/21/05 20:34:42 joe_bruns: Sometimes I like to show a whole plant and a close-up of a blossom.
07/21/05 20:34:55 Luana_BC_Canada > Carolyn_in_CA: How are you doing Carol?
07/21/05 20:35:00 Tony__IL: what light brings out the true colors?
07/21/05 20:35:10 Carolyn_in_CA > Luana_BC_Canada: KDoing fine.  How about you?
07/21/05 20:35:10 joe_bruns: Sometimes I like to show differences due to different growing conditions, or maybe one with the variable edge and one without.
07/21/05 20:35:23 Okie: What exactly is natural light if not sunlight?
07/21/05 20:35:25 KYK_MD: Maybe a vote should be set up for which new photos would be added that way there's not one person to blame
07/21/05 20:35:26 Millie: I like to see the blossom and a few leaves
07/21/05 20:35:33 Luana_BC_Canada > Carolyn_in_CA: Okay, busy with the kids
07/21/05 20:35:44 Luana_BC_Canada > Carolyn_in_CA: How are your av's
07/21/05 20:35:49 Carolyn_in_CA: Elmiecat.  She zapped Tony on an Ajohns (I think) a couple of days ago, then she got me twice and we were talking about auction sniper when she got Tony.  Wht did you get Tony.  She must have been busy with me on Kris
07/21/05 20:35:49 Shellie_in_CA: Hard core ebay buyers have software that allows them to get a bid in so close to the end of the auction that you can't outbid them
07/21/05 20:35:59 joe_bruns: You can blame me.
07/21/05 20:36:02 KYK_MD: Thanks Shellie!
07/21/05 20:36:05 joe_bruns: I'm the one who decides.
07/21/05 20:36:14 KYK_MD: Gotcha!
07/21/05 20:36:16 joe_bruns: If you want to know my reasoning, just ask.
07/21/05 20:36:28 Clare_KS: I lost a very valuable (to me) set of genealogy papers to a sniper.
07/21/05 20:36:46 Clare_KS: I offered them $1,000 just to let me SEE them, and they refused.
07/21/05 20:36:59 Okie: I don't think we should blame anyone, it is extremely hard to come up with an accurate picture of color, I have been trying and driving myself crazy :)
07/21/05 20:37:09 Carolyn_in_CA: OMG.  I'm a gen. too, but stay off Ebay for that.  Must have been some interesting stuff.  Email me privately and let's talk.
07/21/05 20:37:10 KYK_MD: Clare, That's cold!
07/21/05 20:37:25 KYK_MD: I'm into gen too!
07/21/05 20:37:29 ladythel: And if you think a picture is wrong, you can always prove it to Joe and he can fix it.  I did this once.
07/21/05 20:37:34 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.168.80.30]
07/21/05 20:37:38 joe_bruns: As someone just said, a not-so-good photo is better than none at all.
07/21/05 20:37:46 Tony__IL: Hi Sherry
07/21/05 20:37:48 Shellie_in_CA: hi Sherry
07/21/05 20:37:50 Carolyn_in_CA: I'm researching MD and So. Central PA families KYK
07/21/05 20:37:51 Tina: yes it is
07/21/05 20:37:58 Carolyn_in_CA: Hi, Sherry
07/21/05 20:37:58 Millie: I agree Okie no one should be blamed its us violet lovers that want better pictures so sent more to Joe
07/21/05 20:38:03 sherry__(Mo): Hi!! Sorry I'm so late
07/21/05 20:38:12 Tina: I will have to start sending you waps photos as they bloom Joe
07/21/05 20:38:20 joe_bruns: Great
07/21/05 20:38:21 KYK_MD: Carolyn,  Delaware mostly, but some Pa and MD
07/21/05 20:38:44 Millie: Good Tina
07/21/05 20:38:57 Okie: Ok Joe
07/21/05 20:38:58 KYK_MD: Joe, what do you look for in a photo?
07/21/05 20:39:00 Okie: One more time
07/21/05 20:39:04 Millie: We have few pictures of wasps
07/21/05 20:39:18 Okie: How many places are their for pictures of each AV?
07/21/05 20:39:48 Tina: yes we do but not many
07/21/05 20:40:02 Carolyn_in_CA: Joe, you are most familiar with the total database collection, so maybe you are in the best position to judge whether a photo adds or not.  Is most representative of the AV, etc, shows it's color, plant form, leaves, flowering habit etc.  Not just color,
07/21/05 20:40:06 Millie: Two I think  the one u see and an alternat
07/21/05 20:40:17 joe_bruns: I look for (1) a photo for a cultivar that I don't yet have, (2) One that's sharp, good colors, etc.
07/21/05 20:40:42 joe_bruns: I don't grow any plants, so I don't know the "correct" color.
07/21/05 20:40:52 KYK_MD: So how
07/21/05 20:40:56 Carolyn_in_CA: Must be tough too because you have to know what the color looks like.  How do you?
07/21/05 20:41:05 Clare_KS > Carolyn_in_CA: what's your email? 
07/21/05 20:41:05 KYK_MD: so how did you get into creating FC?
07/21/05 20:41:09 joe_bruns: But if the description says "pink" and the blossom in the photo is blue, I think it's wrong.
07/21/05 20:41:10 Clare_KS > Carolyn_in_CA: I'm Clare@kc.rr.com
07/21/05 20:41:42 joe_bruns: There are four photos allowed for each cultivar -- two in the database, and two of your own.
07/21/05 20:42:13 Carolyn_in_CA > Clare_KS: cmiyashiita@aol.com
07/21/05 20:42:16 joe_bruns: I created First Class originally to help with classification of plants at shows.
07/21/05 20:42:21 Okie: Joe you said we could add a pic in the "d" position and it would show as an alternate... how many alternate pictures can you have for one AV?
07/21/05 20:42:24 Millie: OH Learned something else I did not know that
07/21/05 20:42:28 joe_bruns: The method being used was wrong.
07/21/05 20:42:29 ladythel: You have done an outstanding job and it is great to have the photo's.  I love to go to my computer and look up a plant and see what it looks like.
07/21/05 20:42:31 Cathy_In_Ohio Logs in [172.151.244.183]
07/21/05 20:42:32 Clare_KS: Joe, is there anyway to enlarge the photos? Like click on it and it will enlarge?
07/21/05 20:42:34 Okie: Sorry I missed that
07/21/05 20:42:50 joe_bruns: People looked up the name in the MVL, and if it wasn't there, they started looking in the supplements.
07/21/05 20:42:53 Shellie_in_CA: hi Cathy
07/21/05 20:43:05 Cathy_In_Ohio: hi shellie
07/21/05 20:43:13 joe_bruns: However, it could have been changed in one of the supplements, and they would have the wrong description.
07/21/05 20:43:14 Tony__IL: hi Cathy
07/21/05 20:43:29 joe_bruns: You can't enlarge the photos without pixellation.
07/21/05 20:43:36 Cathy_In_Ohio: hi tony
07/21/05 20:43:51 Okie: What size do my pics need to be to add to the program?
07/21/05 20:44:09 Millie: True it has helped in judging a lot
07/21/05 20:44:14 joe_bruns: The beta testing team chose the size of 220 x 165 pixels as a compromise between physical size and download size.
07/21/05 20:44:28 Okie: Great thanks
07/21/05 20:44:29 joe_bruns: The larger the photo, the more time it takes to download.
07/21/05 20:44:41 joe_bruns: You can add any size photo.
07/21/05 20:44:52 joe_bruns: What's more important is the proportions.
07/21/05 20:45:11 joe_bruns: If it's square, it will get stretched from side to side and will be distorted.
07/21/05 20:45:18 KYK_MD: Is there a way to add a photo without it being distorted.  Mine seem to always stretch out.
07/21/05 20:45:36 joe_bruns: There'a a good tutorial on the First Class web site.
07/21/05 20:45:45 joe_bruns: http://firstclass2.com
07/21/05 20:45:48 KYK_MD: Thanks!
07/21/05 20:46:09 joe_bruns: That's a good reference site for anything regarding First Class.
07/21/05 20:46:12 Carolyn_in_CA > Luana_BC_Canada: I'm confused about all these windows!  They're doing fine.  I just have lots of orchids crying "water me"  I only have about 45 AV's all noids, but getting some nice stuff from Ebay as soon as I pay for it!
07/21/05 20:46:29 Tina: yes it is I have it saved in my favorites file
07/21/05 20:46:40 Clare_KS: But Joe....that means we have to stop playing with violets and go READ.
07/21/05 20:46:41 Carolyn_in_CA > Luana_BC_Canada: What kind of AV's do you like?  I like lt. blue and lavender ones
07/21/05 20:46:53 KYK_MD: lol
07/21/05 20:46:55 Tina: LOL
07/21/05 20:46:56 KYK_MD: lol
07/21/05 20:46:59 Okie: I quess I didn't get that far in the instructions, I didn't know there was a web site for FC ;)
07/21/05 20:47:07 joe_bruns: Also, on the main page, you can sign up for a reminder list, where you will be sent a reminder whenever a database update is posted.
07/21/05 20:47:17 Luana_BC_Canada > Carolyn_in_CA: I luck pretty much any thing. I have never met a violet I didn't like
07/21/05 20:47:28 joe_bruns: You should also download the latest version of First Class (free).
07/21/05 20:47:35 Tony__IL: do we pay AVSA for the updates?
07/21/05 20:47:41 joe_bruns: Right now it's version 2.3.9
07/21/05 20:47:58 Luana_BC_Canada > Carolyn_in_CA: I am sorry I thought I had send the message to Carol in Sk. 
07/21/05 20:47:59 Tina: hey just had 2.3.7 like a week or so ago
07/21/05 20:48:03 joe_bruns: Yes, you contact the AVSA office to arrange for on-line database update subscription.
07/21/05 20:48:16 Luana_BC_Canada > Carolyn_in_CA: But it is nice to meet you
07/21/05 20:48:25 Carol_SK: are there updates to the actual program?  or just added pictures?
07/21/05 20:48:36 Tony__IL: ok got it
07/21/05 20:48:44 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: Hi Carol
07/21/05 20:48:45 joe_bruns: Once you have version 2.3.5 or higher, you can upgrade to the latest version just by clicking on File > Upgrade Version.
07/21/05 20:48:47 Tina: Both Carol
07/21/05 20:48:56 Carol_SK > Luana_BC_Canada: Hi Luana
07/21/05 20:48:56 Carolyn_in_CA > Luana_BC_Canada: Ha, Ha.  I'm in Oakland, CA.  Nice to meet  you too.
07/21/05 20:48:59 joe_bruns: These are program upgrades, not database updates.
07/21/05 20:49:09 joe_bruns: Those are separate.
07/21/05 20:49:13 Clare_KS: How often do you do program updates?
07/21/05 20:49:15 Cathy_In_Ohio Leaves Subroom
07/21/05 20:49:25 Carolyn_in_CA > Luana_BC_Canada: Some of your fonts at the extreme left of page are a very light blue and can't read them
07/21/05 20:49:33 joe_bruns: I upgrade the program whenever I add a new feature or correct a bug.
07/21/05 20:49:34 Carolyn_in_CA > Luana_BC_Canada: Going back to the chat,  Bye
07/21/05 20:49:53 joe_bruns: I will be adding your suggested features for the next version (2.3.10).
07/21/05 20:50:00 Luana_BC_Canada > Carolyn_in_CA: Bye
07/21/05 20:50:04 Okie: That is good to know, I did not know there were two different updates to get. Thanks
07/21/05 20:50:19 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: How are you doing?
07/21/05 20:50:24 Carol_SK > Luana_BC_Canada: This color scheme is brutal
07/21/05 20:50:29 Millie: This was great and Thanks so much Joe but today was Hospital day and It drains me, So my eyes are going thanks so much NIGHT ALL
07/21/05 20:50:31 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: It is terrible
07/21/05 20:50:32 KYK_MD: What can we do if we lost our password?  I think my 2 yr old got a hold of it.
07/21/05 20:50:32 joe_bruns: You don't need the new program, but if you want to take advantage of the features, you should get it.
07/21/05 20:50:34 Carol_SK > Luana_BC_Canada: must be my age
07/21/05 20:50:39 Carol_SK > Luana_BC_Canada: laffin
07/21/05 20:50:47 Tina: Night Millie
07/21/05 20:50:48 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: lol
07/21/05 20:50:51 Millie Logs Out
07/21/05 20:50:57 Carol_SK > Luana_BC_Canada: are you swamped with kids?
07/21/05 20:50:59 joe_bruns: If you lose your password, contact the AVSA office. They keep track of the passwords.
07/21/05 20:51:18 KYK_MD: Thank goodness
07/21/05 20:51:33 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: Oh ya! can't wait til school starts
07/21/05 20:51:45 Okie: Ok Joe, so if I want to upgrade the program do I need to go through AVSA to pay for it?
07/21/05 20:51:55 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: HOw are your av's
07/21/05 20:51:58 joe_bruns: If you upgrade to the latest version, you add your password, and the program keeps it in a file.
07/21/05 20:52:08 Carol_SK > Luana_BC_Canada: laffin, I can call you now are you free or are you at chat?
07/21/05 20:52:09 joe_bruns: If you want to upgrade the program, it's free.
07/21/05 20:52:23 joe_bruns: The database updates are $10 per year.
07/21/05 20:52:24 Okie: I just go to file and upgrade correct?
07/21/05 20:52:47 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: I have to go in  minute as I promised to take my boys out so they could skate board
07/21/05 20:52:58 Cathy_In_Ohio Logs Out
07/21/05 20:52:59 joe_bruns: If you have version 2.3.5, yes. If you have an earlier version, go to http://firstclass2.com/version2.htm
07/21/05 20:53:02 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: How about tomorrow morning
07/21/05 20:53:10 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: before the kids get up
07/21/05 20:53:27 Carol_SK > Luana_BC_Canada: what time is that???
07/21/05 20:53:27 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: they have been sleeping in these days
07/21/05 20:53:38 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: about 9 my time
07/21/05 20:53:38 Okie: The 10.00 is due after 6 months with the program correct?
07/21/05 20:53:41 Carol_SK > Luana_BC_Canada: tell me the time and I will call
07/21/05 20:53:44 Carol_SK > Luana_BC_Canada: sounds good\
07/21/05 20:53:48 Okie: How do I find my version Joe?
07/21/05 20:53:55 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: so that would be 11 your time?
07/21/05 20:53:58 joe_bruns: You get 6 months of free updates, then it's $10 per year.
07/21/05 20:54:08 Carol_SK > Luana_BC_Canada: 10 my time
07/21/05 20:54:08 joe_bruns: The version number is listed under the stamp.
07/21/05 20:54:19 joe_bruns: Want to try something fun?
07/21/05 20:54:25 KYK_MD: sure
07/21/05 20:54:26 joe_bruns: Right-click on the stamp.
07/21/05 20:54:30 joe_bruns: Then do a search.
07/21/05 20:54:38 Okie: Duh, I see it a hundred times a day, sorry
07/21/05 20:54:40 Carol_SK Logs Out
07/21/05 20:54:43 Luana_BC_Canada > Carol_SK: Okay  I will talk to you tomorrw at 10 your time.
07/21/05 20:55:38 Tina: what is it supposed to do
07/21/05 20:55:45 KYK_MD: I didn't see anything.
07/21/05 20:55:52 joe_bruns: You'll find out if you start searching.
07/21/05 20:56:00 KYK_MD: I did.
07/21/05 20:56:09 joe_bruns: (Make sure your volume is turned up.)
07/21/05 20:56:09 Clare_KS: Fun :)
07/21/05 20:56:11 Tina: I did but it did nothing
07/21/05 20:56:20 joe_bruns: Try right-clicking again.
07/21/05 20:56:50 joe_bruns: Just a little "Easter egg" as they call it in the programming world.
07/21/05 20:57:14 Tina: nothing still and volume all the way up
07/21/05 20:57:20 KYK_MD: same here
07/21/05 20:57:27 Clare_KS: It doesn't work every time.
07/21/05 20:57:34 Clare_KS: But when it does, it's fun :)
07/21/05 20:57:34 joe_bruns: Type in "DEF"
07/21/05 20:57:57 Clare_KS: ROTF!
07/21/05 20:58:02 Luana_BC_Canada: Thanks Joe for all the great info but I gotta go. Nite everyone. Thanks Joe for all the great info, I love FC2, but I gotta go. nite everyone.
07/21/05 20:58:04 Okie: NOT????
07/21/05 20:58:09 Okie: Is that right
07/21/05 20:58:12 joe_bruns: Right
07/21/05 20:58:12 Luana_BC_Canada: oops
07/21/05 20:58:23 KYK_MD: still nothing I have version 2.3.5
07/21/05 20:58:26 Clare_KS: Night, Luana
07/21/05 20:58:28 Tina: nothing still
07/21/05 20:58:34 Okie: That's like my teenaged daughter talking back LOL
07/21/05 20:58:37 Luana_BC_Canada Logs Out
07/21/05 20:58:40 Tina: night luana
07/21/05 20:58:56 joe_bruns: Instead of the "bleep" you get "Hallelujah," and instead of the "buzz" you get "Not!"
07/21/05 20:59:22 Clare_KS: Do you have to click each time before a search? Or one click turns it on?
07/21/05 20:59:27 joe_bruns: Do you have the sounds muted?
07/21/05 20:59:28 Tina: ok figured it out
07/21/05 20:59:38 Tina: not in the search tab though LOL
07/21/05 20:59:40 joe_bruns: One click turns it on, another turns it off.
07/21/05 20:59:45 Tina: ok my ears hurts now
07/21/05 20:59:47 KYK_MD: I was under the search tab.  It finally worked when I was on the AVML tab
07/21/05 20:59:55 joe_bruns: No-- on the main AVML tab.
07/21/05 21:00:02 Tina: me too Kim LOL
07/21/05 21:00:13 Clare_KS: Type "ABC"
07/21/05 21:00:26 joe_bruns: However, when you close the program and re-open it, it will be back to "normal."
07/21/05 21:00:27 Tina: I love it
07/21/05 21:00:29 KYK_MD: Tina, I usually take things too literally lol
07/21/05 21:00:36 KYK_MD: That's cool
07/21/05 21:00:47 Tina: well I certainly did went right for the search tak
07/21/05 21:01:05 Okie: Me too
07/21/05 21:01:08 Tony__IL: Joe, what's the other program you have for shows?
07/21/05 21:01:20 Tina: Oh that is cute Joe
07/21/05 21:01:27 joe_bruns: AVSA Show Entries is for AVSA judged shows.
07/21/05 21:01:42 joe_bruns: It works with First Class to look up plants.
07/21/05 21:01:44 Tony__IL: can you tell us about it
07/21/05 21:01:52 Tina: Yes please do tell
07/21/05 21:02:04 joe_bruns: There's a lot to the program. Let me find a link to an explanation.
07/21/05 21:02:39 goj62: got to go folks nite
07/21/05 21:02:44 Tina: nite
07/21/05 21:02:58 Tony__IL: later
07/21/05 21:03:17 Carolyn_in_CA: Bye Judi
07/21/05 21:03:35 joe_bruns: I can't find it right now, but if you go to http://update-central.com you can get some info.
07/21/05 21:03:38 Brenda__Al: later folks
07/21/05 21:03:39 Okie: I hate to leave but the eyes are getting heavy here too.  Thank you Joe for coming tonight.  I will be busy with my program this weekend. :)
07/21/05 21:03:39 goj62 Logs Out
07/21/05 21:03:42 Brenda__Al Logs Out
07/21/05 21:03:49 Tony__IL: later Okie
07/21/05 21:03:56 Carolyn_in_CA: Bye Okie
07/21/05 21:04:03 joe_bruns: I'll post a notice to the group when version 2.3.10 is available.
07/21/05 21:04:15 joe_bruns: Thanks for inviting me to chat.
07/21/05 21:04:18 Tina: That would be great Joe Thank you
07/21/05 21:04:20 Tony__IL: thanks Joe
07/21/05 21:04:20 Carolyn_in_CA: Thanks Joe
07/21/05 21:04:29 Shellie_in_CA: Thanks Joe
07/21/05 21:04:32 Clare_KS: Thanks, Joe
07/21/05 21:04:33 Tina: It was our pleasure we sure have enjoyed the chat
07/21/05 21:04:34 Okie Logs Out
07/21/05 21:04:47 KYK_MD: Thanks Joe
07/21/05 21:04:53 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): How are you? How's your husband?
07/21/05 21:05:13 joe_bruns Logs Out
07/21/05 21:05:20 Shellie_in_CA: Is someone going to make a copy of this chat for posting
07/21/05 21:05:29 Tina: well I have to go each night all
07/21/05 21:05:30 Clare_KS: I have a violet question...is anyone stayng?
07/21/05 21:05:33 Tony__IL: think Jana will
07/21/05 21:05:36 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: brought him home from the hospital but have to have more testv done on out patient as there is blood in his urine
07/21/05 21:05:50 Tony__IL: yepper, ask away Clare
07/21/05 21:05:50 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): oh no :( 
07/21/05 21:05:52 Shellie_in_CA: she can't she left the group
07/21/05 21:06:03 KYK_MD: I don't know if I can answer any questions but I can stay for a few min.
07/21/05 21:06:06 Tina: I will copy up til now
07/21/05 21:06:17 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: But they can't do any test til the barium or what ever is out of his system
07/21/05 21:06:18 Tony__IL: think it's recorded and she just posts it
07/21/05 21:06:19 Clare_KS: I have a rather large starter plant of Opera's Juliet which is reaching for the sky.
07/21/05 21:06:20 Tina: be back in about 10 minutes or so
07/21/05 21:06:27 Shellie_in_CA: I would copy but I got in to the chat 10 minutes late
07/21/05 21:06:32 Clare_KS: Is there a way to encourage it to flatten out?
07/21/05 21:06:58 Tony__IL: either more or less light. Experiment time
07/21/05 21:07:14 Clare_KS: I've done that...it doesn't budge
07/21/05 21:07:31 Clare_KS: maybe it's mixed with Celery :)
07/21/05 21:07:34 Tony__IL: a week or so in a diffent light should tell you
07/21/05 21:07:44 Carolyn_in_CA: Good question Clare.  I have noticed that some of my AVs that were in lower light flattened out after I moved them closer to the window.  Some varieties seem to take longer or don't respond, but I think that under lights the results are faster.
07/21/05 21:07:45 KYK_MD: I've weighted mine down before and it sometimes works
07/21/05 21:07:50 sherry__(Mo): put quarters on the leaves-but that's just a temporary fix
07/21/05 21:08:09 Carolyn_in_CA: Weighted with what KYK?
07/21/05 21:08:11 ladythel: It takes a long time for the leaves to flatten out and sometimes they just have to grow out.
07/21/05 21:08:13 Clare_KS: think I'll move it to a different set of shelves.
07/21/05 21:08:48 KYK_MD: anything I can find. dimes, paper clips for mini's, plant tags
07/21/05 21:08:52 Tony__IL: have you got 2 plants of the same variety?
07/21/05 21:09:00 Clare_KS: No, just the one.
07/21/05 21:09:09 Clare_KS: It looks very healthy, just sticking up :)
07/21/05 21:09:12 sherry__(Mo) > Tony__IL: hate to bother you-where is Jana?
07/21/05 21:09:29 Tony__IL > sherry__(Mo): gested I grow a new plant and see if acts the same. 
07/21/05 21:09:52 sherry__(Mo) > Tony__IL: wrong screen-sorry Tony!!
07/21/05 21:09:56 Tony__IL > sherry__(Mo): think thunderboomers got to her tonite
07/21/05 21:10:08 sherry__(Mo) > Tony__IL: darn! Thanks!!
07/21/05 21:10:18 Tony__IL > sherry__(Mo): she was here earlier
07/21/05 21:10:42 sherry__(Mo) > Tony__IL: I was worried when I didn't see her
07/21/05 21:11:01 Tony__IL > sherry__(Mo): will try to call her tomorrow
07/21/05 21:11:02 Carolyn_in_CA: I had a multicrown palm tree type that I finally hacked up.  All the plantlets leaves pointing skyward.  I never thought they'd flatten, but they all did pretty quickly, including the one left with the roots in the pot.  I was surprised.
07/21/05 21:11:09 sherry__(Mo) > Tony__IL: ok-thanks!
07/21/05 21:11:47 Tony__IL > sherry__(Mo): later
07/21/05 21:11:54 sherry__(Mo) > Tony__IL: ok!
07/21/05 21:12:07 Clare_KS: I've wobndered how your palm tree was doing.
07/21/05 21:12:16 Carolyn_in_CA: Another older plant of another variety had the trunk chopped off and reset and it isn't flattening.  I thought maybe it was the fact that it was an older plant and like Tony said, have to wait for it to grow out.
07/21/05 21:12:30 Shellie_in_CA: Thelma, when are you coming to CA
07/21/05 21:12:33 Tony__IL: someone suggested growing another and see if it does the same
07/21/05 21:12:39 Carolyn_in_CA: I have lots of palm trees Clare.  Too much time on Ancestry.com last year
07/21/05 21:12:45 Clare_KS: hee hee
07/21/05 21:12:59 Clare_KS: We'll have to correspond...I worked for Ancestry :)
07/21/05 21:13:12 Carolyn_in_CA: They own me
07/21/05 21:13:16 Clare_KS: hee hee
07/21/05 21:13:17 ladythel: Just got home, leaving again Sat., coming home Tue. and leaving again the 1st.  Softball time.
07/21/05 21:13:33 Carolyn_in_CA: Thelma where are you going in CA?
07/21/05 21:14:02 KYK_MD: Clare, what did you do for Ancestry?
07/21/05 21:14:55 Clare_KS: I was one of the web designers. This http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ is the last one of my pages that they left intact.
07/21/05 21:14:57 ladythel: Orange county, Clovis and Salanis
07/21/05 21:15:10 Shellie_in_CA: are going to be in Orange county?
07/21/05 21:15:13 Clare_KS: I'm tickled every time I see it.
07/21/05 21:15:18 Carolyn_in_CA: Salinas?
07/21/05 21:15:34 Clare_KS: We lived in Coarsegold..what are you going to Clovis for?
07/21/05 21:15:35 ladythel: Westminster and Anaheim.
07/21/05 21:15:48 Shellie_in_CA: this weekend?
07/21/05 21:15:58 ladythel: I have grand daughters that play travel softball.
07/21/05 21:15:58 KYK_MD: That must be a neat feeling.  Can I ask why you left, Clare?
07/21/05 21:16:04 Carolyn_in_CA: OMG, I used to work in Clovis area
07/21/05 21:16:37 Shellie_in_CA: maybe we can get together for a visit
07/21/05 21:16:44 Clare_KS: They "downsized" most of the RootsWeb people one year after they bought us...there was a clause in the contract that said they had to keep us for that long.
07/21/05 21:16:48 ladythel: I also do the Ancestry and rootsweb thing quite a bit.
07/21/05 21:17:15 Clare_KS: There are now only 3 RootsWeb people left.
07/21/05 21:17:24 KYK_MD: That's a shame.
07/21/05 21:17:26 Tony__IL: later ladies. See you next week
07/21/05 21:17:40 KYK_MD: I thought I heard that Rootsweb started something new.
07/21/05 21:17:48 Clare_KS: They don't want the telecommuting. They want everyone in one building.
07/21/05 21:17:49 Carolyn_in_CA: Bye Tony,  What's your email?
07/21/05 21:17:52 KYK_MD: night tony
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07/21/05 21:17:58 sherry__(Mo): Night Tony!
07/21/05 21:17:59 Clare_KS: Hi Tom
07/21/05 21:18:06 Carolyn_in_CA: Hi, Tom
07/21/05 21:18:09 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tom
07/21/05 21:18:10 Tony__IL: tclayt2001@yahoo.com
07/21/05 21:18:13 Clare_KS: I haven't heard, K, what do you think it was?
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07/21/05 21:18:30 ladythel: Shellie, we are so busy we have to go straight to the ball field Sat.
07/21/05 21:18:45 Shellie_in_CA: OK some other time
07/21/05 21:18:53 KYK_MD: I thought they started another program.  I will have to look into it more and let you know.  Can I email you?
07/21/05 21:19:09 Clare_KS: Yes, Clare@kc.rr.com
07/21/05 21:19:22 ladythel: After the tournament Sun. we meet friends for dinner then meet our kids from Tracy at the hotel in Anaheim.
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07/21/05 21:19:46 Carolyn_in_CA: Bye Tom
07/21/05 21:20:15 Shellie_in_CA: how about Monday
07/21/05 21:20:17 KYK_MD: Clare, I will email you as soon as I can.  I hardly have time to go the bathroom when my 2 year old is awake.  Then I have only about an hour to myself before going to bed.
07/21/05 21:21:10 Clare_KS: Hey, I remember those days!!
07/21/05 21:21:19 KYK_MD: This is my first.
07/21/05 21:21:21 Tina: Ok I am back
07/21/05 21:21:29 KYK_MD: Hi Tina!
07/21/05 21:21:31 ladythel: Going to the beach with the twins, back home Tue. and get ready to leave for Clovis.
07/21/05 21:21:33 Clare_KS: I used to tell my kids if I was in the "reading room" not to bother me unless there was blood or fire involved.
07/21/05 21:21:44 KYK_MD: lol
07/21/05 21:21:48 Shellie_in_CA: Well maybe on another visit then
07/21/05 21:22:12 Clare_KS: I better get to bed...have to work tomorrow.
07/21/05 21:22:14 Clare_KS: ugh
07/21/05 21:22:20 Clare_KS: night all :)
07/21/05 21:22:22 KYK_MD: I wish I could but we are potty training and I want her to feel free to be interested.
07/21/05 21:22:23 ladythel: I have barely had time to water before going again.
07/21/05 21:22:27 KYK_MD: Night Clare
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07/21/05 21:22:59 Shellie_in_CA: well I am going to say good nite myself
07/21/05 21:23:01 KYK_MD: I better go myself.  I should have been in bed an hour ago.  Good night all!!!!
07/21/05 21:23:02 ladythel: My hubby is calling me to dinner.
07/21/05 21:23:14 Shellie_in_CA: nite all
07/21/05 21:23:23 ladythel: nite all
07/21/05 21:23:24 Carolyn_in_CA: Bye Clare
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07/21/05 21:23:45 Carolyn_in_CA: Bye Shellie and KYK
07/21/05 21:23:46 sherry__(Mo): I need to go too-Night all!!
07/21/05 21:23:52 Tina: Nite Shelly
07/21/05 21:24:01 Tina: sherry that is
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07/21/05 21:24:12 Carolyn_in_CA: Well Tina, I'll say bye too
07/21/05 21:24:16 Tina: well I suppose I ought to go too
07/21/05 21:24:18 Tina: night
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