06/8/05 19:25:46 sissy746320023@yahoo.com Logs in [68.91.29.38]
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06/8/05 19:59:40 Tony___IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
06/8/05 20:02:55 Cheryl-TX Logs in [68.94.38.167]
06/8/05 20:03:04 Tony___IL: hi Cheryl
06/8/05 20:03:10 Cheryl-TX: Hi Tony
06/8/05 20:03:35 Tony___IL: how are things down south?
06/8/05 20:03:38 Cheryl-TX: how are you doing this evening
06/8/05 20:03:45 Cheryl-TX: it is hot down here
06/8/05 20:04:04 Tony___IL: was here about 90 until the rain came thru
06/8/05 20:04:29 Cheryl-TX: I ordered some leaves and am worried about them getting here and not being fired
06/8/05 20:05:15 Tony___IL: have them mark the package "hold at Post Office for pickup"
06/8/05 20:05:17 Cheryl-TX: what growing projects do  you have going
06/8/05 20:05:44 Tony___IL: done retotting everything and trying the gel2root
06/8/05 20:06:02 Tony___IL: repotting that is
06/8/05 20:06:05 Cheryl-TX: didnt think about that, there in the mail now, our postmant is pretty good about leaving them in the shade if we are not home
06/8/05 20:06:22 Tony___IL: good thing
06/8/05 20:06:27 Cheryl-TX: it sure looks like a nice clean method
06/8/05 20:07:32 Tony___IL: Jana and I are tryign to figure out if you had a leaf in vermic or perlite could you ship out of country with no soil
06/8/05 20:07:43 Cheryl-TX: del uses it exclusivly right
06/8/05 20:08:00 Tony___IL: not sure
06/8/05 20:08:54 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
06/8/05 20:08:54 Cheryl-TX: what are the advantages
06/8/05 20:09:02 Cheryl-TX: Hi Clare
06/8/05 20:09:03 Tony___IL: not sure if peat is "soil" but they'd probably look at the color
06/8/05 20:09:36 Tony___IL: just to ship something more mature than just a leaf
06/8/05 20:09:41 Tony___IL: Hi Clare
06/8/05 20:09:54 Clare_KS: Hi :)
06/8/05 20:10:05 Cheryl-TX: Tony I am not following  you
06/8/05 20:10:10 Clare_KS: Can only stay a few minutes...storm overhead so I'm on battery.
06/8/05 20:10:48 Clare_KS: and comforting dog.
06/8/05 20:10:49 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.170.114.86]
06/8/05 20:10:50 Cheryl-TX: bad weather huh?
06/8/05 20:11:02 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry I'm late!
06/8/05 20:11:04 Cheryl-TX: I love rain
06/8/05 20:11:09 Tony___IL: you ship out of the US, no soil, but you could ship a leaf with babies growing in just perlite or vermic with no problem
06/8/05 20:11:13 Cheryl-TX: wish i had a tin roof
06/8/05 20:11:16 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Cheryl, Clare & Tony!
06/8/05 20:11:30 Cheryl-TX: Hi Jana
06/8/05 20:11:45 Tony___IL: hi Jana
06/8/05 20:12:37 Clare_KS: I just posted a question on the list...
06/8/05 20:12:38 Walt_in_MD Logs in [24.35.119.251]
06/8/05 20:12:43 Tina Logs in [67.190.123.148]
06/8/05 20:12:47 Tony___IL: hi Walt
06/8/05 20:12:52 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tina & Walt!
06/8/05 20:12:58 Tony___IL: hi Tina
06/8/05 20:13:01 Tina: Hello All
06/8/05 20:13:05 Clare_KS: the website for the M&M Double says propagating prohibited...is that just for sale, or for us, too?
06/8/05 20:13:11 Walt_in_MD: Hi all, just popped in for a couple of minutes
06/8/05 20:13:15 Tina: What is tonights Subject
06/8/05 20:13:16 Clare_KS: Hi Walt
06/8/05 20:13:45 Cheryl-TX: Hi Tina, Hi Walt
06/8/05 20:13:58 Tony___IL: I think the warning is more for commercial growers, Clare
06/8/05 20:14:14 Jana_in_Indiana: I'd think it's for selling Clare, they can't stop you from making babies in your own home, LOL!
06/8/05 20:14:15 Tony___IL: topic is thrips, I think?
06/8/05 20:14:40 Jana_in_Indiana: even the Optimara AV's say that
06/8/05 20:14:44 Tina: oh yuck I hate them little buggers
06/8/05 20:14:55 Jana_in_Indiana: I hate ALL buggers!
06/8/05 20:14:55 Cheryl-TX: yes that is the topic, has any one ever had them?
06/8/05 20:15:00 Jana_in_Indiana: no
06/8/05 20:15:13 Tina: yes they are a pain in the @#$#
06/8/05 20:15:13 Clare_KS: <<< wearing garlic to avoid thrips
06/8/05 20:15:15 Tony___IL: yes, I have had them
06/8/05 20:15:35 Tina: may even be inevitable if you have flowers in your yard
06/8/05 20:15:54 Clare_KS: Let's talk about preventative...?
06/8/05 20:16:19 Walt_in_MD: I do and the yard gets safe soap once a month
06/8/05 20:16:33 Jana_in_Indiana: I have over 200 rose bushes & not one thrip on my AV's -- I think it must be the Marathon
06/8/05 20:16:36 Tina: don't go near your plants if you have been outside working in the yard,  Keep your pets out of the plant area and quarentine everything for at least 6 month
06/8/05 20:16:37 Cheryl-TX: I was reading today that they are not very good flyers, but can be carried on a draft, the easiest way is on people wearing yellow, white, pink , or blue
06/8/05 20:17:30 Jana_in_Indiana: the only ways in & out of my house are going thru roses, LOL
06/8/05 20:17:34 Tina: well you could spray if you don't mind pesticides in your home every so often
06/8/05 20:17:58 Tina: :D
06/8/05 20:18:07 Cheryl-TX: they are every where......... the time i got them was my first show, i didnt disbud when i loaded up my plants for the trip home
06/8/05 20:18:46 Cheryl-TX: I learned the hard way to disbud
06/8/05 20:19:14 Tony___IL: can't believe someone had an infected plant at a show !!
06/8/05 20:19:18 Cheryl-TX: does anyone use the sticky strips
06/8/05 20:19:28 Walt_in_MD: I have sprayed every leaf, and starter plant with safe soap before it enters the house.
06/8/05 20:19:33 Tony___IL: I have the blue ones
06/8/05 20:19:48 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I assume all plants at a show have thrips, then play it safe & disbud everything
06/8/05 20:20:25 Tina: yes you must assume they are all infected.
06/8/05 20:20:41 Jana_in_Indiana: I was told that thrips are so bad in the south (Dixie AV show circut I think) that they have changed the rules so that thrips are no longer a DQ
06/8/05 20:20:42 Tina: I have heard the yellow sticky strips work good but had not heard about blue
06/8/05 20:20:54 Cheryl-TX: well i was new.............young and innocent....... lol
06/8/05 20:21:15 Tony___IL: do you have to disbud all when treating a problem?
06/8/05 20:21:24 Clare_KS: Battery going...talk to you tomorrow :)
06/8/05 20:21:34 Tony___IL: later Clare
06/8/05 20:21:40 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Clare!
06/8/05 20:21:45 Cheryl-TX: yes that is the only way to be sure you will get rid of them
06/8/05 20:21:45 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.150.143.184]
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06/8/05 20:22:00 Jana_in_Indiana: depends Tony, do you want them all gone or just lower numbers?  LOL
06/8/05 20:22:01 Tony___IL: hi Sherry
06/8/05 20:22:08 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sherry!
06/8/05 20:22:17 Tina: night Claire
06/8/05 20:22:18 sherry__(Mo): Hi everyone!!
06/8/05 20:22:19 Cheryl-TX: hi sherry
06/8/05 20:22:24 Walt_in_MD: I would disbud all my av's if I get the little pests
06/8/05 20:22:37 Walt_in_MD: hi Sherry
06/8/05 20:22:47 Tony___IL: usually I just toss the blossom out the front door and haven't had to spray them all
06/8/05 20:22:59 sherry__(Mo): what are you talking about-thrips?
06/8/05 20:23:08 Jana_in_Indiana: and spray the soil, part of the life cycle of thrips is in the soil
06/8/05 20:23:10 Tony___IL: yepper, Sherry
06/8/05 20:23:10 Tina: yes Thrips sherry
06/8/05 20:23:18 sherry__(Mo): Thanks
06/8/05 20:23:46 Tina: My plants are getting a major overhaul here soon.  Going to cut the collections down drastically.
06/8/05 20:24:08 Jana_in_Indiana: making room for more of your own hybrids Tina?
06/8/05 20:24:16 Tina: ok well got to go eat.  Catch you all later.
06/8/05 20:24:23 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Tina!
06/8/05 20:24:25 Cheryl-TX: You need to do three sprayings so you can get all the parts of the cycle
06/8/05 20:24:26 Tony___IL: later Tina
06/8/05 20:24:26 Tina: yes and just cutting way down
06/8/05 20:24:36 sherry__(Mo): Take care Tina
06/8/05 20:24:42 Tina: going to release 5 new ones to the public hopefully in the next week
06/8/05 20:24:54 sherry__(Mo): Great Tina!!
06/8/05 20:24:59 Jana_in_Indiana: great!
06/8/05 20:25:06 Tina: night all
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06/8/05 20:25:28 Tony___IL queries IP of Jana_in_Indiana
06/8/05 20:25:34 Cheryl-TX: that is exciting, introducing a new plant
06/8/05 20:25:39 Jana_in_Indiana: how far apart on the sprayings Cheryl?
06/8/05 20:26:24 Cheryl-TX: about 4 days, they have about a 14-16 day life cycle
06/8/05 20:26:30 Jana_in_Indiana: & what do you use to spray?
06/8/05 20:27:07 Cheryl-TX: when i got full blown thrips it was about two weeks before a show and i didn't want to loose the blooms
06/8/05 20:27:07 Walt_in_MD: Better half calling, good night all
06/8/05 20:27:19 sherry__(Mo): Night Walt!!
06/8/05 20:27:20 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Walt!
06/8/05 20:27:20 Tony___IL: nite Walt
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06/8/05 20:27:40 sherry__(Mo): were you able to get rid of them Cheryl?
06/8/05 20:27:44 Charlene_in_OK Logs in [68.12.244.136]
06/8/05 20:27:49 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Charlene!
06/8/05 20:27:52 sherry__(Mo): Hi Charlene!!
06/8/05 20:27:59 becca_Lafayette,IN Logs in [71.98.85.213]
06/8/05 20:28:03 Tony___IL: hi Charlene
06/8/05 20:28:05 Charlene_in_OK: Hi everyone, how are we doing tonight?
06/8/05 20:28:07 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Becca!
06/8/05 20:28:08 Cheryl-TX: I  called Bill Foster and he told me to come over and get some conserve and use it ever 4-5 days,  it did not harm the bloom
06/8/05 20:28:21 Tony___IL: hi Becca
06/8/05 20:28:24 Cheryl-TX: hi becca hi charlene
06/8/05 20:28:26 becca_Lafayette,IN: hi all
06/8/05 20:28:46 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that's amazing!  It's one of those expensive chemicals isn't it?
06/8/05 20:29:10 becca_Lafayette,IN: jana I tried sending you my list again threw your reply
06/8/05 20:29:19 Jana_in_Indiana: got it Becca
06/8/05 20:29:24 becca_Lafayette,IN: good
06/8/05 20:29:53 Jana_in_Indiana: still trying to wade through all the posts on VR today!  Over 100!!!
06/8/05 20:30:00 becca_Lafayette,IN: i was waiting for it all day today  just excited to see what they will look like I guess     just send the descriptions it would be to much for you to send pics
06/8/05 20:30:12 Cheryl-TX: yes but it doesnt take much, bill gave me a small sample shampoo bottle full and i still have it
06/8/05 20:30:28 Cheryl-TX: it just takes a few drops and a quart of water
06/8/05 20:30:37 Jana_in_Indiana: does it kill cyclamen & broad mites too?
06/8/05 20:31:06 Cheryl-TX: i am not sure jana
06/8/05 20:31:19 Tony___IL: shampoo, Cheryl ??
06/8/05 20:31:36 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, does Neem oil actually kill anything, or just deter them from munching on the plants?
06/8/05 20:31:41 sherry__(Mo): We've got a storm getting real close, so if I disapear, you'll know I had to run!
06/8/05 20:32:05 Jana_in_Indiana: I've been watching it all night sherry!  I know it's coming my way too
06/8/05 20:32:35 becca_Lafayette,IN: i got all of my stuff to wick water today except the yarn
06/8/05 20:32:58 Jana_in_Indiana: good for you Becca!  Yarn is easy to find!
06/8/05 20:33:28 becca_Lafayette,IN: yeah  now one question?    I can't wick established plants with out a lot of work right?
06/8/05 20:33:29 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, the bottle was one that a sample of shampoo came in
06/8/05 20:34:00 sherry__(Mo): Use a crochet hook to put the yarn up in the bottom of your pot
06/8/05 20:34:13 Cheryl-TX: did you read my post becca, i use different colors
06/8/05 20:34:26 Tony___IL: lost me on the shampoo J
06/8/05 20:34:30 Jana_in_Indiana: only try it Becca if your soil is VERY light, otherwise you'll get rot
06/8/05 20:34:51 Jana_in_Indiana: it's just the type of little bottle he put the conserve into for her
06/8/05 20:34:59 Cheryl-TX: just a very very small bottle like  you get shampoo at the motels
06/8/05 20:35:06 becca_Lafayette,IN: yeah thank you  I thought that the colors would kill them but then you posted cheryl
06/8/05 20:35:10 Tony___IL: OK
06/8/05 20:35:34 becca_Lafayette,IN: ok jana i have 1 part perlight one part vermiculight and one part peat moss
06/8/05 20:35:43 Jana_in_Indiana: I used bright pink masons twine one time & turned all the water into pink lemonaide looking liquid!
06/8/05 20:35:45 becca_Lafayette,IN: is that light enough
06/8/05 20:36:04 sherry__(Mo): I use more perlite myself
06/8/05 20:36:04 Cheryl-TX: hortense pittman always uses kelly green, i have always imagined that she got a good deal on it and has never run out
06/8/05 20:36:08 becca_Lafayette,IN: lol  hope noone mistakened it for that
06/8/05 20:36:20 Jana_in_Indiana: but the pink water didn't affect the AV's at all
06/8/05 20:36:28 jim Logs in [69.9.219.17]
06/8/05 20:36:32 becca_Lafayette,IN: hello JIm
06/8/05 20:36:33 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Jim1
06/8/05 20:36:39 sherry__(Mo): Hi Jim
06/8/05 20:36:45 Tony___IL: hi Jim
06/8/05 20:36:56 jim: hi everyone
06/8/05 20:37:02 Jana_in_Indiana: one color I would not use is white -- you can't see mealy bugs on it even if they're there!
06/8/05 20:37:16 becca_Lafayette,IN: ok sherry maybe 2 parts perlight one part every thing else?
06/8/05 20:37:44 Cheryl-TX: when i got mealy bugs i was using white mason's twine and i could see the bugs
06/8/05 20:37:53 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, try that Becca, as a test on pots with no plant, then wait a week & see if it gets too wet
06/8/05 20:38:04 sherry__(Mo): You'll just have to experiment and see what works best for you, Becca, but try several and see what works the best
06/8/05 20:38:23 Tony___IL: mine is 3:2:1   P:Perl:V
06/8/05 20:38:41 becca_Lafayette,IN: ok I will try a couple with out plants and see what happends till I get a slighly damp pot and not flodded
06/8/05 20:38:51 Jana_in_Indiana: really cheryl?  I'll bet your eyes are better than mine -- I've never had them except that one plant in isolation, but read somewhewre not to use white for that reason
06/8/05 20:38:52 Cheryl-TX: that is about what i have to use with my growing conditions
06/8/05 20:39:35 jim: so is tonights topic mealybugs
06/8/05 20:39:41 Cheryl-TX: that is a good idea, i have gotten very good at looking for them
06/8/05 20:39:48 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, no it's thrips
06/8/05 20:40:21 Cheryl-TX: no it is thrips, but we thought we would kick the poor mealy bug around a little too
06/8/05 20:40:28 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/8/05 20:40:30 Jana_in_Indiana: we wandered off topic, as usual!
06/8/05 20:40:38 becca_Lafayette,IN: yeah i want to know what they look like cause I don't want them in or around any were   it's bad enough I let the spiders in
06/8/05 20:40:52 jim: i hate both bugs
06/8/05 20:40:54 Jana_in_Indiana: :< you get 'em Cheryl!
06/8/05 20:41:04 Cheryl-TX: thrips were not a frightening to me as mealy bugs, until all this stuff came out about virus
06/8/05 20:41:35 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, INSV makes thrips now be deadly to AV's!
06/8/05 20:41:56 Cheryl-TX: brb, my coffee is ready
06/8/05 20:42:19 jim: bring me a cup too please
06/8/05 20:42:25 Jana_in_Indiana: I hope it's decaf!  You'll never get to sleep tonight! ;)
06/8/05 20:43:26 Jana_in_Indiana: here's you a cup Jim    C(_)
06/8/05 20:43:37 jim: thanks
06/8/05 20:44:12 Jana_in_Indiana: welcome!
06/8/05 20:44:45 sunshine Logs in [68.104.132.18]
06/8/05 20:44:53 jim: hi sunshine
06/8/05 20:44:57 sherry__(Mo): Hi Amy
06/8/05 20:44:59 Tony___IL: later you all, storm coming thru
06/8/05 20:45:05 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Tony!
06/8/05 20:45:07 Tony___IL Logs Out
06/8/05 20:45:10 Jana_in_Indiana: hi SS
06/8/05 20:45:12 sherry__(Mo): Take care Tony!!
06/8/05 20:45:13 sunshine: hi yourself.
06/8/05 20:45:16 jim: bye
06/8/05 20:45:45 Charlene_in_OK: I have one plant that I think might have had thrips.  It sure is looking like the plants in the AVSA magazine this month with the virus.  I ordered a test kit from John at Cape Cod to check it out.  It is totally closed up in a bag right now.
06/8/05 20:46:20 Jana_in_Indiana: it won't spread by contact, takes mixing of the juices Charlene
06/8/05 20:46:35 jim: i heard you can get rid of them by cutting off the food supply and neem oil
06/8/05 20:46:48 Cheryl-TX: i am back
06/8/05 20:46:51 sunshine: are we talking about thrips?
06/8/05 20:46:54 sunshine: or what
06/8/05 20:46:56 Jana_in_Indiana: that's what the thrips do, suck juice from one plant, & inadvertently deposit some of it on in the next plant
06/8/05 20:46:57 sunshine: sorry
06/8/05 20:47:25 sunshine: biggest thing thrips do is make unwanted crosses,  LOL
06/8/05 20:47:45 jim: now they carrry diseases now
06/8/05 20:47:54 Charlene_in_OK: So if I don't see any problems with my other buds do I not need to be concerned as long as I throw out the bad one?
06/8/05 20:47:58 Jana_in_Indiana: the absolute worst thing thrips do is give your AV's INSV!  It's deadly & no cure
06/8/05 20:48:10 sunshine: when I had thrips, I found a household spray that was good for african violets and sprayed twice with it and have never had thriips again.
06/8/05 20:48:28 sunshine: oh dear,  is that something new?
06/8/05 20:48:40 Charlene_in_OK: How do you see the thrips?
06/8/05 20:48:42 Jana_in_Indiana: Charlene, did you actually have thrips, or just get a plant that had them & isolate it well?
06/8/05 20:48:43 becca_Lafayette,IN: i'm just waitng for the day that i come down here and find them i am going to freak
06/8/05 20:48:59 becca_Lafayette,IN: jana you will here me in INdy for sure
06/8/05 20:49:17 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL!  I'll scream too Becca!
06/8/05 20:49:22 Cheryl-TX: yes, amy but the unwanted crosses are wonderful compared to getting the virus]
06/8/05 20:49:23 becca_Lafayette,IN: :)
06/8/05 20:49:47 Charlene_in_OK: I'm not sure what happened.  It was one of my original NOIDS and it just started looking ill, funny looking center and the flowers looked like they were dropping pollen
06/8/05 20:50:02 sunshine: well,  as I say, I have been out of things for a little while, and had not heard of a virus.
06/8/05 20:50:06 sherry__(Mo): Have you seen any bugs Charlene?
06/8/05 20:50:13 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, was it isolated before & when you noticed this Charlene?
06/8/05 20:50:19 sunshine: I could see the little silvry things.
06/8/05 20:50:20 becca_Lafayette,IN: now thrips are the pollen spillers right?
06/8/05 20:50:30 Jana_in_Indiana: right
06/8/05 20:50:30 Cheryl-TX: a good way to see them is to blow on the bloosm, it is not your breath that makes them quickly move, but some thing with the co2
06/8/05 20:50:35 sherry__(Mo): Flick a bloom with your finger and see if any scamper about
06/8/05 20:51:12 Charlene_in_OK: I didn't actually see any bugs, but I freaked out because I had just joined and learned about all the problems I could have and took it outside ASAP and sprayed and isolated it.
06/8/05 20:51:16 Cheryl-TX: they will hide under petels
06/8/05 20:51:23 becca_Lafayette,IN: I don't have any blooming right now so am I safe?
06/8/05 20:51:39 sherry__(Mo): And a reminder to new people-disbud before you bring any new ones home
06/8/05 20:51:56 Jana_in_Indiana: Charlene, what's your e-mail?
06/8/05 20:51:59 becca_Lafayette,IN: :0 thanks
06/8/05 20:52:11 Cheryl-TX: well temperature plays in the hatching out of thrips
06/8/05 20:52:12 sherry__(Mo): (I know!! It hurts to fdo that when you first get started1!)
06/8/05 20:52:18 sunshine: I will remember that Sherry.  My goodness, thrips used to be one of thelesser evils.
06/8/05 20:52:25 Charlene_in_OK: dougsluv@cox.net
06/8/05 20:52:51 Cheryl-TX: yes, that is right
06/8/05 20:53:12 Cheryl-TX: you cant kill a virus, you can only destroy your plant
06/8/05 20:53:25 sherry__(Mo): Boo hoo!
06/8/05 20:53:40 becca_Lafayette,IN: :-(
06/8/05 20:53:45 becca_Lafayette,IN: sniff sniff
06/8/05 20:53:51 Jana_in_Indiana: & don't compost it!  Bag it & have it hauled away!
06/8/05 20:54:12 Jana_in_Indiana: BRB
06/8/05 20:54:15 sunshine: do they attack streps too, Cheryl?
06/8/05 20:54:21 Charlene_in_OK: I did not just throw the plant away because I wanted to see if that was actually what was wrong with it so I would know the next time.
06/8/05 20:54:25 jim: i heard they do
06/8/05 20:54:30 becca_Lafayette,IN: to bad we couldn't give it an anitboitic or somthing
06/8/05 20:54:33 jim: anything with pollen
06/8/05 20:54:49 sunshine: I know they like gladioli
06/8/05 20:54:58 sunshine: and iris too
06/8/05 20:54:58 jim: and iris
06/8/05 20:55:02 jim: lol
06/8/05 20:55:14 Cheryl-TX: well if it is n a plastic bag, it is not going to hurt anything else
06/8/05 20:55:47 Cheryl-TX: yes, thrips get on all polen plants
06/8/05 20:55:57 jim: how long before they die
06/8/05 20:56:06 jim: if you get rid of the blooms
06/8/05 20:56:09 Charlene_in_OK: The test kit was kind of expensive but I really want to be able to see if I had it and then try to figure out why it didn't get any of my others.
06/8/05 20:56:36 becca_Lafayette,IN: hey sky sent some interesting stuff to the list
06/8/05 20:56:54 Charlene_in_OK: brb
06/8/05 20:56:57 Cheryl-TX: a plant can have a virus and it can lay dormant until conditions are right
06/8/05 20:57:39 Cheryl-TX: and then if one plant has it it cant be spread unless  you have thrips to carry it
06/8/05 20:58:02 Cheryl-TX: what did she send?
06/8/05 20:58:47 becca_Lafayette,IN: whooo whooo i jsut counted all my av's I started on may 5 i have over 60 now
06/8/05 20:59:03 Cheryl-TX: scary isn't it
06/8/05 20:59:07 becca_Lafayette,IN: yeah
06/8/05 20:59:16 sherry__(Mo): LOL-they have a way of multiplying!
06/8/05 20:59:26 Cheryl-TX: that is how we all started out just one plant and then thousands
06/8/05 20:59:27 becca_Lafayette,IN: my husband said you get av's I get lawn mowers
06/8/05 20:59:33 sherry__(Mo): lol
06/8/05 20:59:57 Cheryl-TX: my hubby has gotten very involved in the violet world
06/8/05 21:00:00 jim Logs Out
06/8/05 21:00:14 sherry__(Mo): That's great Cheryl!
06/8/05 21:00:15 Cheryl-TX: he is the new president of the ft worth club
06/8/05 21:00:25 sherry__(Mo): NEAT!!
06/8/05 21:00:37 becca_Lafayette,IN: mine is afraid he will kill them but he has helped me build my light stand and stuff like that
06/8/05 21:01:03 Charlene_in_OK: Should I look at all my plants with a magnifying glass to see if I have them, or can you just see them with the naked eye?
06/8/05 21:01:19 Charlene_in_OK: I'm back on thrips
06/8/05 21:01:28 sherry__(Mo): Good Becca! Mine could care less about anything
06/8/05 21:01:38 Cheryl-TX: yes you can see with naked eyes.........lol
06/8/05 21:01:45 becca_Lafayette,IN: to tell you the truth i would be afrid if he had to take care of them *Bleep*
06/8/05 21:01:58 Jana_in_Indiana: back  sorry!
06/8/05 21:02:33 becca_Lafayette,IN: to him every thing loves water it took me two hours to try and convince him that av's only like it moist not soggy
06/8/05 21:02:55 Charlene_in_OK: My husband is great about all my hobbies, but he put his foot down about the shelving units with lights, said they would be tacky LOL
06/8/05 21:03:26 Cheryl-TX: if all of a sudden you blooms are making see pods, or if you are seeing deformed blooms or gray streaks on underside of leaves or pock marks........... then you may have thrips
06/8/05 21:03:29 Jana_in_Indiana: put them on a back room charlene, where they won't be seen
06/8/05 21:03:53 Jana_in_Indiana: I sent you something Charlene
06/8/05 21:03:55 becca_Lafayette,IN: so is mine, he said that since I was around death all the time I needed an out
06/8/05 21:04:12 Cheryl-TX: yes jana is right they need a room all to themselves............. they perfer a view
06/8/05 21:04:24 Jana_in_Indiana: ;)
06/8/05 21:04:48 Charlene_in_OK: So I saw some pretty baker's racks from JC Penneys for 129.00 and think I will try them.  I want to see my beauties, at least as long as I can,LOL
06/8/05 21:04:48 becca_Lafayette,IN: i think i'm going to adoped that face
06/8/05 21:05:10 becca_Lafayette,IN: ;)
06/8/05 21:05:17 Jana_in_Indiana: the same bakers racks at 65 to 70 at hardware stores
06/8/05 21:05:29 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
06/8/05 21:05:48 Cheryl-TX: I love the costco shelves, amy turned me on to them and i have 6now
06/8/05 21:05:55 sherry__(Mo): We picked up another stand this afternoon. It's used-but we needed more shelves for everything the granddaughter has gotten!!
06/8/05 21:05:56 Jana_in_Indiana: the come in chrome, white & black charlene
06/8/05 21:06:06 becca_Lafayette,IN: I well my mom found a plant stand at doller general for $20 and it was good and sturdy
06/8/05 21:06:19 Jana_in_Indiana: just what you need Sherry -- someone helping you want more!  LOL
06/8/05 21:06:21 Cheryl-TX: yes they have a real nice bakers rack at lowes i thing
06/8/05 21:06:27 Charlene_in_OK: I don't know Jana, these were pretty nice and they appear to be pretty heavy duty, with wooden drawers and such Jana
06/8/05 21:06:46 sherry__(Mo): Sounds nice Charlene
06/8/05 21:06:48 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, no these don't have wood!
06/8/05 21:06:48 becca_Lafayette,IN: this one even had a plastic thing that whent over it
06/8/05 21:07:09 Jana_in_Indiana: is it one of the mini greenhouses Becca?
06/8/05 21:07:23 becca_Lafayette,IN: yes and it was really nice *bleep*
06/8/05 21:07:39 becca_Lafayette,IN: you'd think comming from dollar General it wouln't be
06/8/05 21:07:50 Jana_in_Indiana: I have 2 of them, added lights & filled them up, LOL
06/8/05 21:07:59 Cheryl-TX: did you look at some of the list's stands that are posted in the photos on VR]
06/8/05 21:08:01 Jana_in_Indiana: mine came from Big Lots
06/8/05 21:08:16 becca_Lafayette,IN: how did you add lights to them i looked and it looked like the lights would be to close to the plants
06/8/05 21:08:19 Charlene_in_OK: These look like furniture so I might be able to get away with lights on them, if I can keep them from looking TACKY  ;)
06/8/05 21:08:20 sherry__(Mo): Jana-she "Bought" (with my money!) about 15 plants at the auction the other night-even tried to out bid me on one!
06/8/05 21:08:31 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
06/8/05 21:08:39 Jana_in_Indiana: she's too cute sherry!
06/8/05 21:08:40 Cheryl-TX: lol , sherry
06/8/05 21:08:51 sherry__(Mo): It's hailing here-going to run!!
06/8/05 21:08:57 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll bet you can Charlene!
06/8/05 21:08:58 sherry__(Mo): Take care!!
06/8/05 21:09:00 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out
06/8/05 21:09:04 becca_Lafayette,IN: bye sherry
06/8/05 21:09:13 sunshine: oh oh,  storming all over.
06/8/05 21:09:37 Charlene_in_OK: I will try real hard to get some pictures if I can figure out how to get them uploaded to the site.
06/8/05 21:09:37 Jana_in_Indiana: Becca, I used cable ties (zip strips) and added the 24 inch lights from Wal  mart
06/8/05 21:09:38 becca_Lafayette,IN: yeah i thought we were going to get hammered with some thank godness they are going jana's way lol
06/8/05 21:09:50 Cheryl-TX: is it stormin in AZ
06/8/05 21:10:01 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Becca! :<
06/8/05 21:10:22 sunshine: I use zip ties to install four foot lights on the stands from Lowe's etc.
06/8/05 21:10:40 becca_Lafayette,IN: just kidding jana :?
06/8/05 21:10:42 Jana_in_Indiana: I've been checking the radar, looks like it might miss me, heading more SE now
06/8/05 21:10:47 sunshine: and 24 inch zip ties to install lights into holes made on the plastic stands.
06/8/05 21:11:09 becca_Lafayette,IN: thats good   i hate storms with a passion would be happy if ti jsut rained
06/8/05 21:11:16 Cheryl-TX: Amy carried me step by step installing lights a couple of years ago when i set up my first stand
06/8/05 21:11:26 Cheryl-TX: that is how we got to know one another
06/8/05 21:11:35 Jana_in_Indiana: somehow, we haven't had any tornado warnings at all this spring -- we're due!
06/8/05 21:12:00 sunshine: If If you lived in Arizona you would relish a nice cooling storm ince in a while,  LOL
06/8/05 21:12:10 becca_Lafayette,IN: jana did you put the lights side to side or front to back? and did you put one on each shelf.  It looks like they would be to close to the plants *bleep*
06/8/05 21:12:53 Jana_in_Indiana: they are fairly close, just have them turned on for less time, & put the leaves in there, they sit lots lower
06/8/05 21:13:02 Charlene_in_OK: Doug talked to a storm chaser today at the gas station and he said that some three-day something showed that Friday or Saturday could be the worst weather day here in 9 years, even worse than May 3 1999
06/8/05 21:13:15 sunshine: the stands we used  are fully adjustable, and the four foot lights go end to end.  I use one doublefixture on each shelf.
06/8/05 21:13:35 Jana_in_Indiana: used 2 per shelf, about 10 inches apart & used epozy to attach the oones for the topp shelf
06/8/05 21:13:40 becca_Lafayette,IN: thats what we were going to use it for was starting our leaves.  It makes good humiditiy in them even with the domes on the trays
06/8/05 21:13:43 Jana_in_Indiana: side to side
06/8/05 21:13:58 becca_Lafayette,IN: ok thanks *bleep*
06/8/05 21:14:13 Charlene_in_OK: what does "*bleep*" mean?
06/8/05 21:14:37 becca_Lafayette,IN: so instead of eight hourse how long do you have them on for  *bleep*
06/8/05 21:14:39 Jana_in_Indiana: it's a noise, like :
06/8/05 21:14:45 Jana_in_Indiana: *evil*
06/8/05 21:14:58 Cheryl-TX: i am not  understanding this, side to side and end ot end
06/8/05 21:15:02 becca_Lafayette,IN: when you want some  *harp*
06/8/05 21:15:12 Jana_in_Indiana: 6 to 8, depends on when I turn them on, haven't get them on a timer yet
06/8/05 21:15:15 sunshine: In the little greenhouses, use one 24 inch bulb, would like to use two, but use it for leaves, so is okay.
06/8/05 21:15:26 becca_Lafayette,IN: I asked jana how she put her lights on her shelves in here green house
06/8/05 21:15:54 Jana_in_Indiana: they go side to side Cheryl, not front to back
06/8/05 21:16:15 Cheryl-TX: i know, but am not following what you are talking about,,,,,,,,,,,,, i may need a picture
06/8/05 21:16:32 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, I *can* do pictures, LOL
06/8/05 21:16:55 becca_Lafayette,IN: lol don't feel bad I some times am that way   I think it's cause i'm getting old lol  (waiting for the slap)
06/8/05 21:17:31 Jana_in_Indiana: :? me too!
06/8/05 21:17:41 Charlene_in_OK: Jana, the pictures you sent me don't look anything like my sick AV, I don't see any spots like that.  But one of them reminded me of a strep I got from Rob's.  It has some areas on the leaves that look like a thinning of the leaf.
06/8/05 21:18:34 becca_Lafayette,IN: the reason why i said waiting for the slap you are probibly way older than I
06/8/05 21:18:40 Jana_in_Indiana: none of them will look the same, and some won't even show any symptoms charlene, best thing to do is test it, it's the only way to know for certain
06/8/05 21:18:42 Cheryl-TX: that could be a spill on the leaf it is a strep
06/8/05 21:18:55 Charlene_in_OK: I have got to get some pictures done... I am going to do that this weekend NO MATTER WHAT  :<
06/8/05 21:19:04 Jana_in_Indiana: WAY OLDER????  Who you talkin to gal!!!
06/8/05 21:19:14 Jana_in_Indiana: :D
06/8/05 21:19:22 becca_Lafayette,IN: i am probibly the youngest one on the list
06/8/05 21:19:22 Charlene_in_OK: What kind of spill Cheryl?
06/8/05 21:19:54 Charlene_in_OK: How old Becca?
06/8/05 21:20:10 becca_Lafayette,IN: i'm 27 going on 50 *bleep*
06/8/05 21:20:12 Cheryl-TX: some time if you spill on strep leaves and they have light  on the spill it will make a thin place on the leaf
06/8/05 21:20:25 Jana_in_Indiana: spill water
06/8/05 21:20:35 Charlene_in_OK: Oh cheryl, I hope that is what it is.
06/8/05 21:20:53 Jana_in_Indiana: but, it won't affect the blossoms like you said
06/8/05 21:21:16 Charlene_in_OK: I absolutely love the streps, they have the most awesome flowers, as do my lovely violets  :?
06/8/05 21:21:51 Charlene_in_OK: Hum, becca I'm 47 going on 20  lol
06/8/05 21:21:55 becca_Lafayette,IN: oh thats nice i just looked at one of my av's and a spider has managed to lay a white sack on it how nice *bleep*
06/8/05 21:22:06 becca_Lafayette,IN: lol good for you charlene
06/8/05 21:22:14 Charlene_in_OK: Do spiders kill thrips?
06/8/05 21:22:23 becca_Lafayette,IN: tony said they do
06/8/05 21:22:28 Cheryl-TX: well leave it there, they will eat the bugs  lol
06/8/05 21:22:40 Jana_in_Indiana: spiders will kill almost anything they can catch
06/8/05 21:22:53 Jana_in_Indiana: the white sack is an egg scak
06/8/05 21:22:57 Jana_in_Indiana: sack*
06/8/05 21:23:02 becca_Lafayette,IN: yummy   it doen't matter that I hate them does it ????????
06/8/05 21:23:09 Cheryl-TX: and spiders wont hurt the plant
06/8/05 21:23:12 Charlene_in_OK: That's what I'm afraid of, they run awful fast when I run from them :<
06/8/05 21:23:35 Jana_in_Indiana: I pay my kids to kill spiders for me!
06/8/05 21:23:38 becca_Lafayette,IN: i'll have night mares tonight
06/8/05 21:23:48 Charlene_in_OK: ME TOO :o
06/8/05 21:24:08 becca_Lafayette,IN: i wish i had kids my husband just looks at me and says there not hurting anything
06/8/05 21:24:24 Charlene_in_OK: How do chats always seem to turn to spiders? YUCK :?
06/8/05 21:24:52 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, no more spider talk please???  LOL  We'll all have nightmares tonight!
06/8/05 21:24:55 sunshine: well, when   we moved from the apartment to this house, all my soil that was on the patio was full of black widows, and that scared me plenty.
06/8/05 21:25:02 sunshine: sorry
06/8/05 21:25:34 becca_Lafayette,IN: yeah Yuck
06/8/05 21:25:52 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl, was there anything else you have to add on thrips?
06/8/05 21:26:31 Jana_in_Indiana: (trying to sneek things back on topic ;)  )
06/8/05 21:27:08 becca_Lafayette,IN: maybe i'm not the youngest one on the list.  there is a girl 22
06/8/05 21:27:25 Charlene_in_OK: By the way Cheryl, I loved the pics of your Violet cave, how awesome ;)
06/8/05 21:27:36 Cheryl-TX: sorry i was playing ebay
06/8/05 21:27:49 Cheryl-TX: had to check my auction
06/8/05 21:27:52 Jana_in_Indiana: uh oh!  More AV's for cheryl!
06/8/05 21:28:04 Jana_in_Indiana: you selling or trying to win?
06/8/05 21:28:14 Charlene_in_OK: Who are the good sellers of AV's on Ebay, can we ask that here? :D
06/8/05 21:28:17 Cheryl-TX: thrips?
06/8/05 21:28:35 Charlene_in_OK: Woops, off topic again, sorry
06/8/05 21:28:41 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
06/8/05 21:28:41 Cheryl-TX: well i am not going to be wearing white in the plant room
06/8/05 21:29:00 Cheryl-TX: trying to win
06/8/05 21:29:03 Charlene_in_OK: Why not white, I must have missed something
06/8/05 21:29:19 becca_Lafayette,IN: thrips love white
06/8/05 21:29:27 Jana_in_Indiana: name please Cheryl?  Of the AV?
06/8/05 21:29:43 Cheryl-TX: i read that white , yellow, pink and green are colors that thrips like and they will jump on those clothes
06/8/05 21:29:45 becca_Lafayette,IN: :/
06/8/05 21:29:56 Charlene_in_OK: Well, would that make them jump off the av and onto you?  Maybe a good thing????? :p
06/8/05 21:30:07 Cheryl-TX: lol
06/8/05 21:30:16 Jana_in_Indiana: but the eggs will stay behind!
06/8/05 21:30:17 becca_Lafayette,IN: ok so we have a grage sell and sell of our pink white and green clothes
06/8/05 21:30:30 Cheryl-TX: yes maybe a good idea, put on whitle and run around the plant stand
06/8/05 21:30:32 Jana_in_Indiana: & take the $$$ & get more AV's!!!
06/8/05 21:30:45 becca_Lafayette,IN: yeah then you will get weard looks
06/8/05 21:30:47 Charlene_in_OK: Okay so I have to wear white and let loose a bunch of spiders....LOL
06/8/05 21:30:49 becca_Lafayette,IN: yes
06/8/05 21:31:01 Jana_in_Indiana: wait!  Cheryl, aren't more all of the pots either white or green???  ;)
06/8/05 21:31:12 Cheryl-TX: we are getting silly, like the night we talked about worms
06/8/05 21:31:17 sunshine: not really,  I wouldn't think.
06/8/05 21:31:17 Jana_in_Indiana: I meant 'most all'
06/8/05 21:31:26 Cheryl-TX: yes but dark green
06/8/05 21:31:35 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I'm outta here if we're going back to the worms!
06/8/05 21:31:46 becca_Lafayette,IN: me to
06/8/05 21:31:50 becca_Lafayette,IN: yuck
06/8/05 21:31:53 Cheryl-TX: sorry,
06/8/05 21:32:00 Charlene_in_OK: Worms, oh worms are my favorite  :/
06/8/05 21:32:16 Charlene_in_OK: sorry just being stupid
06/8/05 21:32:19 Cheryl-TX: i am still planning to use worm casting
06/8/05 21:32:26 Jana_in_Indiana: I know you were teasing me that night, but I did nearly barf
06/8/05 21:32:38 becca_Lafayette,IN: charlene when you run around the plant stand don't forget to say here thrips come jump one me
06/8/05 21:32:45 Cheryl-TX: i just cant figure out to do this with out killing the worm
06/8/05 21:32:45 sunshine: I use worm castins all the time.
06/8/05 21:32:49 Jana_in_Indiana: I have worm castings here now, looks alot like grainy soil
06/8/05 21:32:54 Charlene_in_OK: lol
06/8/05 21:33:05 sunshine: will thrips give you the virus too.
06/8/05 21:33:21 Charlene_in_OK: A worm enema?????
06/8/05 21:33:32 Charlene_in_OK: Cheryl
06/8/05 21:33:33 becca_Lafayette,IN: lol
06/8/05 21:33:42 Cheryl-TX: i think it is thrips and only thrips that are the vector
06/8/05 21:33:54 Cheryl-TX: is vector the word i want....?
06/8/05 21:33:59 Jana_in_Indiana: yup
06/8/05 21:34:18 becca_Lafayette,IN: a worm enema now there is some people i'd like to give that to lol
06/8/05 21:34:31 Charlene_in_OK: :?
06/8/05 21:34:35 sunshine: my gosh.
06/8/05 21:34:36 Charlene_in_OK: Not me I hope
06/8/05 21:34:45 becca_Lafayette,IN: no  not any of you
06/8/05 21:34:51 Charlene_in_OK: shew
06/8/05 21:34:55 Jana_in_Indiana: :p please say it isn't me????????????
06/8/05 21:35:06 Charlene_in_OK: *) that what that would feel like LOL
06/8/05 21:35:27 becca_Lafayette,IN: no   jsut this one old man at work    he had hip surgery and he keeps saying he wants to marry me and take me home with him
06/8/05 21:35:45 Charlene_in_OK: Are we having fun yet  lol
06/8/05 21:35:50 becca_Lafayette,IN: always
06/8/05 21:36:10 Charlene_in_OK: Hey are we off subject yet?
06/8/05 21:36:18 Charlene_in_OK: i have a different question
06/8/05 21:36:26 Cheryl-TX: AMY...Two closely related viruses, Impatiens Necrotic Spot (INSV) and Tomato Spotted Wilt Virus (TSWV), once called the I-strain and L-strain of tomato spotted wilt, have been widespread and devastating in the greenhouse industry.
06/8/05 21:36:37 becca_Lafayette,IN: I think it's a full Moom
06/8/05 21:36:49 Jana_in_Indiana: go for it charlene!
06/8/05 21:37:06 Charlene_in_OK: about the microwaving for sterilization
06/8/05 21:37:15 Charlene_in_OK: does it stink?
06/8/05 21:37:23 Jana_in_Indiana: yup
06/8/05 21:37:27 Charlene_in_OK: how bad?
06/8/05 21:37:32 Charlene_in_OK: and for how long?
06/8/05 21:37:41 becca_Lafayette,IN: yes    for about a couple of days
06/8/05 21:37:53 Jana_in_Indiana: bad enough I won't do it
06/8/05 21:37:54 Cheryl-TX: Amy...
06/8/05 21:38:03 Charlene_in_OK: So I do need an old one out in the garage or something right?
06/8/05 21:38:05 sunshine: yes ma'am
06/8/05 21:38:16 Jana_in_Indiana: exactly Charlene
06/8/05 21:38:19 Cheryl-TX: here is a good article http://www.ppath.cas.psu.edu/EXTENSION/PLANT_DISEASE/tswv.html
06/8/05 21:38:33 Charlene_in_OK: well poop :<
06/8/05 21:38:48 Charlene_in_OK: or is it well worm castings l;ol
06/8/05 21:38:54 Charlene_in_OK Logs Out
06/8/05 21:39:04 Charlene_in_OK Logs in [68.12.244.136]
06/8/05 21:39:09 becca_Lafayette,IN: wb charlene
06/8/05 21:39:11 Jana_in_Indiana: they have small cheap microwaves at Walmart, like $35
06/8/05 21:39:20 Charlene_in_OK: boy that was exciting, I hit the wrong button
06/8/05 21:39:42 Charlene_in_OK: Ok, I will get one of those too.
06/8/05 21:39:51 becca_Lafayette,IN: I could see it now wife put in looney been for microwaving dirt
06/8/05 21:40:02 Cheryl-TX: v
06/8/05 21:40:15 Charlene_in_OK: lol
06/8/05 21:40:18 becca_Lafayette,IN: the fist time I did that I thought my husnad was going to drag me off
06/8/05 21:40:33 Jana_in_Indiana: if hubby says something, say it's his dinner!
06/8/05 21:40:55 Charlene_in_OK: mississippi mud pie????
06/8/05 21:41:00 becca_Lafayette,IN: lol oh yeah that will go over well  i might be looking for a place to stay
06/8/05 21:41:03 Charlene_in_OK: lol
06/8/05 21:41:09 becca_Lafayette,IN: me and all my av's
06/8/05 21:41:28 Jana_in_Indiana: then say it's ruined & he should call for a pizza!
06/8/05 21:41:45 becca_Lafayette,IN: that would work
06/8/05 21:41:50 Charlene_in_OK: Got's to go to bed, bad nights sleep last night.  Have a good one all and talk to you again soon.
06/8/05 21:41:58 Jana_in_Indiana: hel'' believe you when he smells it
06/8/05 21:42:05 becca_Lafayette,IN: bye charlene
06/8/05 21:42:05 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite charlene
06/8/05 21:42:08 sunshine: good night Charlene
06/8/05 21:42:15 Charlene_in_OK Logs Out
06/8/05 21:42:33 Jana_in_Indiana: I gotta go & get caught up on messages, g'nite all!
06/8/05 21:42:56 becca_Lafayette,IN: night
06/8/05 21:42:59 sunshine: good night Jana.
06/8/05 21:43:06 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out
06/8/05 21:43:11 becca_Lafayette,IN: i gots to run to night all
06/8/05 21:43:23 becca_Lafayette,IN Logs Out
06/8/05 21:44:37 Cheryl-TX: ok it is just you and me
06/8/05 21:44:53 sunshine: hard to type oln this  is real slow.  see you downstaris.
06/8/05 21:45:03 Cheryl-TX: i have to go for a while becasue i have been sitting too long and my feet will swell
06/8/05 21:45:34 sunshine Logs Out
06/9/05 00:42:55 Cheryl-TX Disconnects