06/2/05 19:39:25 Leslie Logs in [63.25.210.132]
06/2/05 19:40:28 Leslie Logs Out
06/2/05 19:45:03 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.133.207.194]
06/2/05 19:46:04 BobJ_MD Logs in [68.49.70.97]
06/2/05 19:46:14 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Bob!
06/2/05 19:46:42 BobJ_MD: Hi Jana,
06/2/05 19:47:33 BobJ_MD: I won't be here long. I had my Arthoscopic should
06/2/05 19:48:27 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that sounds painful!
06/2/05 19:48:49 Jana_in_Indiana: the chat log will be in the files tomorrow, you can read what you miss!
06/2/05 19:49:00 BobJ_MD: May has not been a good month. Shoulder surgery on 5/2 and a minor heart attack on 5/21. 9pm has become my bedtime and I'm getting 10-11 hours sleep every day.
06/2/05 19:49:48 Jana_in_Indiana: oh my!  You have had a rough month!
06/2/05 19:50:13 BobJ_MD: How do I get into the "chat Log"?
06/2/05 19:51:22 Jana_in_Indiana: give me your e-mail & I'll send it to you
06/2/05 19:52:26 BobJ_MD: rcj29@comcast.net. I've lost all the contact info that I had a couple of years ago. Thanks for your help.
06/2/05 19:52:40 del_SK_CANADA Logs in [70.64.126.225]
06/2/05 19:52:42 Jana_in_Indiana: just make sure you do what the Dr says & take good care of yourself!
06/2/05 19:52:46 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Del!
06/2/05 19:52:56 BobJ_MD: Hi Del!
06/2/05 19:53:19 del_SK_CANADA: hI bOB AND jANA
06/2/05 19:53:48 BobJ_MD: How are you doing Del?
06/2/05 19:53:53 del_SK_CANADA: how you doing Bob
06/2/05 19:54:12 del_SK_CANADA: good as long as I listen to the doc LOL
06/2/05 19:54:22 Jana_in_Indiana: De l, Bob said " May has not been a good month. Shoulder surgery on 5/2 and a minor heart attack on 5/21. 9pm has become my bedtime and I'm getting 10-11 hours sleep every day. "
06/2/05 19:54:57 Jana_in_Indiana: he's had a bad month for sure!
06/2/05 19:54:59 Leslie Logs in [63.25.210.132]
06/2/05 19:55:05 del_SK_CANADA: wow I am lucky if I get 5 hours sleep most nights
06/2/05 19:55:06 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Leslie!
06/2/05 19:55:13 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
06/2/05 19:55:16 del_SK_CANADA: Hi Leslie
06/2/05 19:55:18 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tony!
06/2/05 19:55:24 Jana_in_Indiana: wait a minute!
06/2/05 19:55:28 Leslie: Howdy!
06/2/05 19:55:30 del_SK_CANADA: Hi Tony
06/2/05 19:55:36 Jana_in_Indiana: there's more roosters than hens here!
06/2/05 19:55:44 Tony__IL: Hi Bob, Jana, Del and Leslie
06/2/05 19:55:53 BobJ_MD: 6-7 hours was my norm before last month. Hopefully I'l get back there.
06/2/05 19:56:06 Leslie: Hey, there!
06/2/05 19:56:50 del_SK_CANADA: nearly every night got to  get up tsake another pill rub and hope I can get back to sleep Bob
06/2/05 19:57:04 del_SK_CANADA: way it should be Jana
06/2/05 19:57:28 del_SK_CANADA: will not last very long LOL
06/2/05 19:57:43 BobJ_MD: The pills do multiply Del, ---Wait until you get to be my age. LOL
06/2/05 19:57:43 Tony__IL: better get on the phone and round 'em up, Jana
06/2/05 19:57:45 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I don't mind De l, but it is unusual!
06/2/05 19:58:04 del_SK_CANADA: how old are you Bob I am 74 now
06/2/05 19:58:52 BobJ_MD: I turn 74 on 6/18. I thought that you were a year younger than me Del.
06/2/05 19:59:19 del_SK_CANADA: right  mis take only 73 LOL
06/2/05 19:59:34 BobJ_MD: Just a kid Ha Ha.
06/2/05 19:59:44 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
06/2/05 20:00:20 Jana_in_Indiana: & I'm a baby at 50!
06/2/05 20:00:23 del_SK_CANADA: oh how i wish Bob
06/2/05 20:00:41 del_SK_CANADA: same age as my son Jana
06/2/05 20:00:52 Jana_in_Indiana: cool
06/2/05 20:01:20 BobJ_MD: I think that we both have been lucky Del. Life could be a lot worse.
06/2/05 20:01:27 del_SK_CANADA: our baby turned 47 this year Jana
06/2/05 20:01:38 Jana_in_Indiana: 0wow!
06/2/05 20:01:39 Tony__IL: Jana, what fertilizer did she feed the plant your sone was holding in the photo and how old is it?
06/2/05 20:01:55 Jana_in_Indiana: Leslie, are you a gal or guy leslie?
06/2/05 20:01:59 del_SK_CANADA: for sure Bob no regrets for me loved what jobs I had hated to retire
06/2/05 20:02:00 Tony__IL: *son
06/2/05 20:02:46 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, I'll have to ask her Tony, but she follows a grow to show schedule -- all the plants were that huge!  And, my son isn't small!
06/2/05 20:02:53 Leslie: I am a guy. Don't know what mother was thinking when naming me
06/2/05 20:03:27 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, I didn't mean anything by it, I just have known both guys & gals with your name
06/2/05 20:03:28 Peggy_in_Pa Logs in [207.172.119.154]
06/2/05 20:03:36 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Peggy!
06/2/05 20:03:39 Tony__IL: hi Peggy
06/2/05 20:03:45 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Everyone
06/2/05 20:04:00 Leslie: me too, and more gals than guys, haha.
06/2/05 20:04:02 del_SK_CANADA: one of my best friends (GUY) is also named Leslie
06/2/05 20:04:07 del_SK_CANADA: Hi Peggy
06/2/05 20:04:17 BobJ_MD: Time for me to hit the sheets. Glad I got a chance to get in for a few minutes. I'll look for  your e-mail tomorrow Jana, thanks.  Good nite all!!!
06/2/05 20:04:30 Tony__IL: nite Bob
06/2/05 20:04:31 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Bob, stay well!
06/2/05 20:04:35 del_SK_CANADA: night Bob take care
06/2/05 20:04:39 Peggy_in_Pa: nite Bob
06/2/05 20:04:49 BobJ_MD Logs Out
06/2/05 20:05:26 Jana_in_Indiana: De l, someone on the posts asked about starting leaves in the gel crystals, can you give details?  Hers rotted.
06/2/05 20:06:06 del_SK_CANADA: she must of used an old leaf or one not in good shape Jana
06/2/05 20:06:25 del_SK_CANADA: want it on here  tonight Jana
06/2/05 20:06:31 Jana_in_Indiana: exactly how do you do it?  She used several different leaves
06/2/05 20:06:37 Jana_in_Indiana: yes please
06/2/05 20:06:57 del_SK_CANADA: ok hold on I am slow typing ok
06/2/05 20:07:18 Jana_in_Indiana: no problem!
06/2/05 20:07:52 Leslie: sorry to interupt but need to go take allergy capsule. Am feeling sick. Good to see you all. Goodnight!
06/2/05 20:08:01 Leslie Logs Out
06/2/05 20:08:04 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Leslie!
06/2/05 20:08:22 Jana_in_Indiana: time for one of Becky's *poofs*
06/2/05 20:09:09 Peggy_in_Pa: Jana does Del use a different gel then you use?
06/2/05 20:09:42 Jana_in_Indiana: he uses the gel crystals, they come dry in a jar or packet, you hydrate them, some come in colors
06/2/05 20:10:02 Jana_in_Indiana: I think it's also in the miracle Grow Moisture Control soil
06/2/05 20:10:03 Peggy_in_Pa: Yes I have them
06/2/05 20:10:03 del_SK_CANADA: the crystal gel 20 gram make up 2 quarts of gel, take 1 TSP of crytals and put it into 3  cups of water let it sit for at least 8 hours so they expand , I use a 2 0z solo cup the deep ones and a 20z solo cup shallow for a saucer make a hole in the bottom
06/2/05 20:11:11 Charlene_in_OK Logs in [68.12.244.136]
06/2/05 20:11:19 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Charlene!
06/2/05 20:11:23 del_SK_CANADA: I put in about  2 tablespoons of the gel into the deep cup then the leaf into the gel there is really no difference how deep you put the leaf but not up to leaf part
06/2/05 20:11:23 Charlene_in_OK: Hi all
06/2/05 20:11:41 Jana_in_Indiana: De l, it's Charlene that tried the gel crystals I think
06/2/05 20:12:14 Charlene_in_OK: Yes, they haven't worked too well for a pan of leaves
06/2/05 20:12:14 Jana_in_Indiana: Charlene, I asked De l about the crystals, here's what he said before you got here:
06/2/05 20:12:39 del_SK_CANADA: then I take a 5 oz clear plast ic drinking cup and put that over the top as a cover, in the saucer I put water with superthrive in it just enough to cover the bottom of the saucer
06/2/05 20:13:47 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, now I can't paste into the chat!  GRRR!
06/2/05 20:13:55 del_SK_CANADA: if you do not want to  use the drinking cup as a cover then use the small window sill green house with the clear cover and set the cups in there
06/2/05 20:14:24 del_SK_CANADA: I have yet (cross fingers) to lose a leaf
06/2/05 20:14:29 Jana_in_Indiana: ok,thanls De l!
06/2/05 20:14:43 Jana_in_Indiana: will adding fertilizer make them rot?
06/2/05 20:14:57 Charlene_in_OK: So is this the gel2root or the gel crystals?
06/2/05 20:14:58 Jana_in_Indiana: jump in here charlene!
06/2/05 20:15:02 del_SK_CANADA: is that clear explanation for you or is it mud LOL
06/2/05 20:15:06 Jana_in_Indiana: gel crystals
06/2/05 20:15:32 Jana_in_Indiana: I got it!  thanks!  Charlene is here -- she's the one that tried it & had problems
06/2/05 20:15:50 Charlene_in_OK: two tablespoons of what I used made about 5 cups of constituted crystals
06/2/05 20:16:00 del_SK_CANADA: not for me after a week I will give them a light water with fert then about every 2 to 3 weeks another of water/fert
06/2/05 20:16:35 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks for the explanation De l!
06/2/05 20:16:42 del_SK_CANADA: the fert I am using is 15-30-15 at 1/8th TSP per gallon of waer foir the leaves in the gel
06/2/05 20:17:06 Jana_in_Indiana: how deep do you put the petiole into the gel?
06/2/05 20:17:33 Jana_in_Indiana: gel crystals*
06/2/05 20:17:35 del_SK_CANADA: so the stem will stand by itsself  in the gel
06/2/05 20:17:36 Charlene_in_OK: Del, what kind of gel are we talking about exactly?
06/2/05 20:18:42 del_SK_CANADA: the gel crystals you can buy from the dollar store 20 grams for $2.50 cents you can get the crystals in about 4 different colors
06/2/05 20:18:58 Charlene_in_OK: I used fert. water to hydrate my crystals about the same strength, thought that might have been the cause for them to rot
06/2/05 20:19:10 Jana_in_Indiana: I think it's the same thing you used charlene
06/2/05 20:19:18 Tony__IL: Del, what is there original purpose?
06/2/05 20:19:35 Charlene_in_OK: You use 2 tablespoons or a small cup?
06/2/05 20:19:35 Jana_in_Indiana: for vases of cut flowers
06/2/05 20:19:47 Jana_in_Indiana: & growing bamboo
06/2/05 20:19:57 Charlene_in_OK: *for*
06/2/05 20:20:18 del_SK_CANADA: they are used by florist for cut flowers   when you buy mother roses  for the house Tony
06/2/05 20:21:15 del_SK_CANADA: I use the 2 0z deep solo cup and about 2 tespoons of gel
06/2/05 20:21:25 Charlene_in_OK: Del, do the crystal continue to look like seperate pieces of gel when you wet or does it become one piece?
06/2/05 20:21:46 del_SK_CANADA: sorry did I say talespoons I meant  2 TSP of gel
06/2/05 20:22:08 del_SK_CANADA: no they are individual pieces
06/2/05 20:22:34 Charlene_in_OK: do you put the leaf in while the crystals are dry or after wet?
06/2/05 20:22:48 del_SK_CANADA: you will get big and small pieces when they swell up
06/2/05 20:23:34 Jana_in_Indiana: mine have looked like they're all one piece, but as they begin to dry -- you can see they are still pieces
06/2/05 20:23:48 del_SK_CANADA: after they are  expanded oh one other thing leave what you are not using in a closed container in the water so they are ready for next time  you want to use them
06/2/05 20:24:30 Charlene_in_OK: So the cup lip holds the leaf out of the crystals I guess.  That would explain why my leaves are rotting, because they are touching the crystals in the pan
06/2/05 20:24:58 del_SK_CANADA: no the leaf goes into the crystals
06/2/05 20:25:10 Charlene_in_OK: The leaf or the petole?
06/2/05 20:25:27 del_SK_CANADA: the stem is into the crystals  I mean
06/2/05 20:25:52 Charlene_in_OK: I have the petoles in the crystals but it is just one big pan so the leaves actually touch the crystals too>
06/2/05 20:26:02 del_SK_CANADA: wish my camera was working I could then take pictres for you
06/2/05 20:26:57 Charlene_in_OK: I really think this stuff will work great if I can figure out the best way.  Just do not have a good setup yet to put individual cups so just put them in the pan.
06/2/05 20:27:14 Charlene_in_OK: and they lay over onto the crystals
06/2/05 20:27:19 Charlene_in_OK: the leaf does
06/2/05 20:27:34 del_SK_CANADA: it should not matter if the leaf itself touches the crystals when  I use small envelops(clear ones) for  starting the leaf  some do touch the leaf its self
06/2/05 20:28:15 del_SK_CANADA: I  hang the little bags on the end of the light stnd by a plastic toy clothespin  saves room on the shelf this way
06/2/05 20:28:30 Charlene_in_OK: So you have used in like a small plastic bag... how big?
06/2/05 20:28:44 Charlene_in_OK: how big of a bag?
06/2/05 20:29:10 del_SK_CANADA: you could use a  plant label.  piece of vention blind to hold the leaf and stem in a upright postion also
06/2/05 20:29:53 del_SK_CANADA: I use the 4x3 inch clear plastic bags again I buy those at the dollar store
06/2/05 20:29:54 Jana_in_Indiana: Charlene, Walmart has small plastic bags in the craft dept.
06/2/05 20:29:54 Charlene_in_OK: I have not figured out how to upload pictures yet or I would take a pic of all my problem children to se what you guys think.
06/2/05 20:30:16 Jana_in_Indiana: can you e-mail them?
06/2/05 20:30:41 Charlene_in_OK: yes, I will do that Jana.  I will take a picture of my pan and email to you.
06/2/05 20:31:07 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, then I'll upload it for you on VR -- you do want it on VR?
06/2/05 20:31:21 Charlene_in_OK: So it does not hurt the leaf to be touching the bag either?
06/2/05 20:31:22 del_SK_CANADA: oh I sent a package to Sherry this week and the  leaves are started with baby,s in the gel
06/2/05 20:31:28 Jana_in_Indiana: send Del a copy too!
06/2/05 20:31:33 Charlene_in_OK: Yes on VR
06/2/05 20:31:37 Jana_in_Indiana: cool!
06/2/05 20:31:38 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/2/05 20:32:03 del_SK_CANADA: not that i see you may have to open the bag if it mists over for you once in awhile though
06/2/05 20:32:04 Jana_in_Indiana: does that cover everything on the gel crystals Charlene?
06/2/05 20:32:23 Charlene_in_OK: sure, we can move on thanks so much guys
06/2/05 20:32:33 del_SK_CANADA: welcome
06/2/05 20:32:45 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Del!
06/2/05 20:33:04 Jana_in_Indiana: time to get onto the topic?  Texas Style Potting (TSP)?
06/2/05 20:33:12 Charlene_in_OK: Yippee
06/2/05 20:33:22 Charlene_in_OK: my next project
06/2/05 20:33:32 Jana_in_Indiana: anyone with experience with it feel free to jump in & help!
06/2/05 20:33:47 Tony__IL: why use it instead of the regular way?
06/2/05 20:33:51 Jana_in_Indiana: first, BE SURE your soil is VERY light!
06/2/05 20:34:12 del_SK_CANADA: right
06/2/05 20:34:13 Jana_in_Indiana: the AV's do grow really well in it & it requires much less watering
06/2/05 20:34:32 Jana_in_Indiana: if the soil isn't really light the AV's will rot!
06/2/05 20:34:47 del_SK_CANADA: what do you  use in the bottom of the pot Jana
06/2/05 20:34:58 Charlene_in_OK: so what would you do to Pats recipe to lighten it up enough Jana
06/2/05 20:35:08 Jana_in_Indiana: next get some drink cups, pots just aren't tall enough for all the perlite AND still have room for soil too
06/2/05 20:35:27 Jana_in_Indiana: nothing in the bottom but holes & perlite!  LOL!
06/2/05 20:35:47 Jana_in_Indiana: I double the perlite in Pat's recipe for TSP Charlene
06/2/05 20:35:50 del_SK_CANADA: ok may I  say something here Jana ?????
06/2/05 20:35:57 Jana_in_Indiana: sure!
06/2/05 20:36:30 Charlene_in_OK: Did I read it would be okay to use fish gravel in the bottom to keep them from being as top heavy?
06/2/05 20:37:06 Charlene_in_OK: Jana, double my order of perlite on my list okay
06/2/05 20:37:07 del_SK_CANADA: when i tried texas potting I used the  perlite but found it was wet and soggy and I switched to using aquarium gravel and found it worked better  at least for me in my conditions  Jana
06/2/05 20:37:20 Jana_in_Indiana: Walt posted that to the group charlene, I haven't tried it, some rocks do not wick the water, so you should test it on a few first
06/2/05 20:37:28 Charlene_in_OK: there is where I heard that lol
06/2/05 20:37:31 Jana_in_Indiana: ok charlene!  LOL
06/2/05 20:37:58 Charlene_in_OK: thanks jana
06/2/05 20:37:58 Jana_in_Indiana: great De l, it's good to know of someone that has tried it!
06/2/05 20:38:06 del_SK_CANADA: also it was the med aquarium gravel Jana
06/2/05 20:38:27 Jana_in_Indiana: were they smooth & shiny or like broken fragments?
06/2/05 20:38:34 Charlene_in_OK: Del, I just bought aquarium gravel at walmart, it was kind of brown color, was that the right one?
06/2/05 20:38:46 del_SK_CANADA: the smooth ones Jana
06/2/05 20:38:55 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks De l!
06/2/05 20:39:21 del_SK_CANADA: should be ok I used the green ones all I could get here
06/2/05 20:39:33 Charlene_in_OK: thanks
06/2/05 20:39:40 Jana_in_Indiana: next make the holes in the cups, I prefer the soldering iron for this job, the drill made lots of burs I had to trim off
06/2/05 20:40:03 del_SK_CANADA: good thinking there
06/2/05 20:40:05 Jana_in_Indiana: if melting the holes, be sure to open doors & windows!  The fumes are toxic!
06/2/05 20:40:45 Peggy_in_Pa: I use a ice pick heat over a flame
06/2/05 20:40:52 Jana_in_Indiana: I put 2 rows of holes, plus the holes in the bottom of the cup
06/2/05 20:41:10 Peggy_in_Pa: flame on the stove withe exust on
06/2/05 20:41:12 Charlene_in_OK: The holes are how far apart in each row?
06/2/05 20:41:12 Jana_in_Indiana: still makes fumes Peggy,
06/2/05 20:41:21 del_SK_CANADA: another thing you  can use is called a scribe it is a tapered shaft on a handle and just heat the  shaft on the stove and make your holes
06/2/05 20:41:28 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, that might get the fumes Peggy!
06/2/05 20:42:00 Jana_in_Indiana: the first row of holes is about 1/2 " up from the bottom, usually make 4 holes around the pot
06/2/05 20:42:33 Jana_in_Indiana: the next row of holes depends on how big the cups is, just don't make them higher then half way up the side of the cup
06/2/05 20:43:08 Jana_in_Indiana: again, I make at least 4 holes in this row, 6 or 8 if it's big
06/2/05 20:43:24 Charlene_in_OK: How many on bottom
06/2/05 20:43:34 del_SK_CANADA: is there any holes in the bottom of the cup/pot Jana
06/2/05 20:43:34 Jana_in_Indiana: I try to stagger the holes, not line them up with the holes in the row below
06/2/05 20:44:00 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, on the bottom, I make 1 in 3 oz, 3 or 4 holes in the lerger cups
06/2/05 20:44:12 Jana_in_Indiana: larger&
06/2/05 20:44:44 del_SK_CANADA: so  you are using 3 sets of holes on the cup/pot Jana
06/2/05 20:44:46 Jana_in_Indiana: next add coarse perlite up to or just at the top of the upper row of holes
06/2/05 20:45:07 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, De l, I set in the bottom, then 2 rows on the sides
06/2/05 20:45:15 Jana_in_Indiana: any comments?
06/2/05 20:45:23 del_SK_CANADA: ok thanks jana
06/2/05 20:45:33 Charlene_in_OK: sounds pretty easy so far
06/2/05 20:45:47 Charlene_in_OK: No wick though right
06/2/05 20:45:59 del_SK_CANADA: it is charline
06/2/05 20:46:01 Jana_in_Indiana: no wicks, would be a waste of time, LOL
06/2/05 20:46:19 Jana_in_Indiana: then add soil (VERY light soil) and the AV
06/2/05 20:46:37 Jana_in_Indiana: set in tray, reservoir, whatever
06/2/05 20:46:56 del_SK_CANADA: do you cover the pot or put the pots in a tray with a cover ???
06/2/05 20:47:09 Jana_in_Indiana: be sure to top water the first time to start the wicking action throught the perlite & soil
06/2/05 20:47:34 Jana_in_Indiana: no, I've never covered when using TSP, do you De l?
06/2/05 20:47:54 Tony__IL: the perlite acts as a wick??
06/2/05 20:48:06 del_SK_CANADA: I had put mine in a covered tray with water in the bottom of the tray
06/2/05 20:48:08 Jana_in_Indiana: yup, it takes the water to the soil
06/2/05 20:48:16 Charlene_in_OK: Your pictures of this were great Jana
06/2/05 20:48:25 Jana_in_Indiana: they didn't rot De l?
06/2/05 20:48:30 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Charlene
06/2/05 20:48:30 Charlene_in_OK: Very easy to understand
06/2/05 20:48:39 del_SK_CANADA: nope
06/2/05 20:49:15 Jana_in_Indiana: after top watering, add water till it's near, but not toucching the top row of holes -- be sure to check the smaller cups, their holes might be lower!
06/2/05 20:49:38 Jana_in_Indiana: great!  You must have less himidity up there De l!
06/2/05 20:50:02 del_SK_CANADA: in summer humidity is bad here Jana
06/2/05 20:50:10 Jana_in_Indiana: http://community.webshots.com/user/janainindiana
06/2/05 20:50:37 Jana_in_Indiana: that's my album with photos of TSP -- in the album named African violet Care & More
06/2/05 20:50:41 Charlene_in_OK: The thing I am having trouble understanding is, if you have to cover everything all the time, how do you get to enjoy them.  All my new babies are under wraps and I have nothing to look at, boohoo
06/2/05 20:50:43 del_SK_CANADA: BUT my covers have 2 holes in the clear cover I can open or close these as I need to
06/2/05 20:50:59 Jana_in_Indiana: OK, any questions or added info?  Did I forget anything?
06/2/05 20:51:19 Charlene_in_OK: Del where do you get your covers?
06/2/05 20:51:21 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, so you can control the humidity!  Good idea!
06/2/05 20:51:36 del_SK_CANADA: bought them from a nursery here
06/2/05 20:51:52 del_SK_CANADA: yes I can Jana
06/2/05 20:52:21 Jana_in_Indiana: the hardest thing w/ TSP is getting the soil light enough to keep the AV's from rotting
06/2/05 20:52:30 Charlene_in_OK: So do we think they need covered or not here in the States?
06/2/05 20:52:50 Jana_in_Indiana: the AV's will send roots dowon into the perlite & water!  I don't know how they don't rot!  But, they don't!
06/2/05 20:53:17 Peggy_in_Pa: I had one plant with TSP and I didn't cover it
06/2/05 20:53:26 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.155.110.215]
06/2/05 20:53:32 Jana_in_Indiana: none of mine have ever been covered
06/2/05 20:53:35 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi sherry!
06/2/05 20:53:37 Charlene_in_OK: Hi Sherry
06/2/05 20:53:46 del_SK_CANADA: oh if you are looking for the trays I use ask for the propagation trays with clear plastic cover
06/2/05 20:53:52 Charlene_in_OK: Well at least you have something to look at then
06/2/05 20:53:54 del_SK_CANADA: Hi Sherry
06/2/05 20:54:00 sherry__(Mo): Hi!! I didn't know if you all would still be here
06/2/05 20:54:18 Jana_in_Indiana: sure, we were waiting for you sherry!  LOL
06/2/05 20:54:26 sherry__(Mo): LOL Jana
06/2/05 20:54:26 del_SK_CANADA: Sherry your package was mailed today
06/2/05 20:54:35 sherry__(Mo): Thanks Del!!!!
06/2/05 20:54:36 Peggy_in_Pa: It was Chantaspring that is not a great grower. But it lived. Can't say I've used it for many plants
06/2/05 20:54:58 Charlene_in_OK: Jana, I was noticing on your pics that you use what looked like plug trays, is that right?
06/2/05 20:55:48 del_SK_CANADA: make sure to let me know how the rooted leaves in the gel made out in shipping  Sherry please
06/2/05 20:55:48 Jana_in_Indiana: Oh!  You will do better with heavy duty trays!  I wouldn't try moving them when full of water either!
06/2/05 20:55:58 sherry__(Mo): Peggy, I went through several Chanta springs before I figured out how to keep it alive
06/2/05 20:56:08 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, I use the cell pacls for starting leaves charlene
06/2/05 20:56:15 sherry__(Mo): I sure will Del-I'm curious to find out!
06/2/05 20:56:30 Charlene_in_OK: I am trying to put down a lot of my leaves off all my noids for practice
06/2/05 20:56:44 sherry__(Mo): Good idea Charlene!
06/2/05 20:56:50 Peggy_in_Pa: Sherry what did you figure out about Chantsprings
06/2/05 20:56:51 Jana_in_Indiana: and anytime you let the plant soil become dry, you will need to top water again to restart the wicking of the perlite
06/2/05 20:56:53 del_SK_CANADA: got my fingers crossed and your 4 packages of the gel  is in the parcel sherry
06/2/05 20:56:58 Charlene_in_OK: I think I might be able to get plug trays locally
06/2/05 20:57:32 Charlene_in_OK: Could I use gel in them Jana?
06/2/05 20:57:33 sherry__(Mo): It needs a lot more humidity I think anyway, and I keep it farther from the lights
06/2/05 20:57:51 sherry__(Mo): Thanks Del-you're the best!!
06/2/05 20:57:54 Peggy_in_Pa: thanks
06/2/05 20:57:57 Jana_in_Indiana: gel crystals?  probably, but I personally wouldn't
06/2/05 20:58:02 del_SK_CANADA: BLUSH LOL
06/2/05 20:58:06 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/2/05 20:58:36 del_SK_CANADA: ops sorry folks got company gotta go thanks for the great chat
06/2/05 20:58:38 Jana_in_Indiana: De l, would you use the gel crystals in the cell packs/plug trays?
06/2/05 20:58:45 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Del!
06/2/05 20:58:46 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks!
06/2/05 20:58:57 Peggy_in_Pa: Thanks Del
06/2/05 20:59:07 sherry__(Mo): I liked growing in natural light, Peggy, but when the kids moved in, had to put them b ack under lights
06/2/05 20:59:12 sherry__(Mo): Take care Del
06/2/05 20:59:13 del_SK_CANADA: hey there is a good one to try Jana will try it soon
06/2/05 20:59:23 del_SK_CANADA: bfn then everyone
06/2/05 20:59:29 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, let us know how it works please De l?
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06/2/05 20:59:57 Charlene_in_OK: I have a huge container of the gel crystals because I started about 2 tablespoons in a cup and just had to keep putting them into a bigger container they grew to fill a container 4" deep by 8X8
06/2/05 21:00:10 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
06/2/05 21:00:11 sherry__(Mo): Wow!
06/2/05 21:00:37 Charlene_in_OK: I guess i could put them out in some of my outside plants to help keep them watered
06/2/05 21:00:42 Peggy_in_Pa: Sound like a "I LOve Lucy Show"
06/2/05 21:01:01 Jana_in_Indiana: Charlene, I do my leaves different than anyone I know, I put them into Pat's soil, once the babies sprout -- they get huge fast!
06/2/05 21:01:07 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, it does Peggy!
06/2/05 21:01:17 Charlene_in_OK: Yes, that is about what I look like everytime I try something new with these AV's lol
06/2/05 21:01:53 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tony! Why are you so quiet?
06/2/05 21:02:01 Charlene_in_OK: I have put all my new ones from Rob's into the clear shoe boxes upside down
06/2/05 21:02:05 Jana_in_Indiana: and I put the cell pack on the elevate mat watering & put a dome on the tray only, there is space between the cell pack & reservior, you can see it n the photos -- I think
06/2/05 21:02:30 Charlene_in_OK: yes where did you get the cell packs jana?
06/2/05 21:02:33 Tony__IL: just me shy personality
06/2/05 21:02:44 Charlene_in_OK: They look like they went crazy
06/2/05 21:02:50 sherry__(Mo): LOL Tony!
06/2/05 21:02:52 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, you are basically doing TSP already, with your laver of perlite in the bottom of the cups.  You're just doing it on a smaller scale
06/2/05 21:03:17 sherry__(Mo): what is TSP?
06/2/05 21:03:20 Jana_in_Indiana: local greenhouse supply, I got some new ones this week, in sizes I've never seen before!
06/2/05 21:03:27 Jana_in_Indiana: Texas Stype Potting
06/2/05 21:03:30 Charlene_in_OK: Texas style potting
06/2/05 21:03:30 Tony__IL: I just wish the plants would start looking better
06/2/05 21:03:32 Charlene_in_OK: woops
06/2/05 21:03:34 sherry__(Mo): thanks Jana
06/2/05 21:03:36 frankgschlicht Logs in [24.242.201.139]
06/2/05 21:03:47 sherry__(Mo): Hi Frank
06/2/05 21:03:48 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Frank!
06/2/05 21:03:52 Charlene_in_OK: hi frank
06/2/05 21:04:00 Tony__IL: hi Frank
06/2/05 21:04:02 Jana_in_Indiana: they will in a month or so tony!
06/2/05 21:04:17 Charlene_in_OK: Jana, where do you get the gel in the pics
06/2/05 21:04:30 Charlene_in_OK: is that the gel2root?
06/2/05 21:04:44 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, from Charley's Greenhouse
06/2/05 21:05:04 Charlene_in_OK: it comes in the little cells?
06/2/05 21:05:32 Charlene_in_OK: I was amazed at the pics of your tissue culture too, when did you do that?
06/2/05 21:05:52 frankgschlicht: Good evening All.
06/2/05 21:05:53 Jana_in_Indiana: the new cell packs I got are 1 1/4 inch across & 1 1/2 inch deep with 98 holes in the entire thing
06/2/05 21:06:15 Charlene_in_OK: wow for 98 leaves?
06/2/05 21:06:33 Jana_in_Indiana: no, Gel2Root does come in a 6 pack, but they are huge, with about 4 ro 6 ounces of gel in each hole
06/2/05 21:06:51 Jana_in_Indiana: I get the quart bottle of Gel2Root
06/2/05 21:06:57 sherry__(Mo): not for the size leaves Jana has-LOL
06/2/05 21:07:16 Jana_in_Indiana: well, I would only plant every other hole in thsi cell pack to give more room once they sprout
06/2/05 21:07:30 Charlene_in_OK: Ok confused again, what do you get with 98 holes Jana?
06/2/05 21:07:44 Jana_in_Indiana: not all the leaves are that size sherry -- those were from Anne's show plants I brought home
06/2/05 21:07:57 Charlene_in_OK: Man those were huge plants
06/2/05 21:08:04 Jana_in_Indiana: it's a starter cell pack, like for seed starting
06/2/05 21:08:19 Jana_in_Indiana: any questions frank?
06/2/05 21:08:25 Charlene_in_OK: got you, that is what you use with Pats mix right?
06/2/05 21:08:28 frankgschlicht: What type of container do you usse for the Gel2
06/2/05 21:08:42 Jana_in_Indiana: 1 ounce solo cups Frank
06/2/05 21:09:18 frankgschlicht: I presume you do not put holes in them. Am I correct?
06/2/05 21:09:24 Jana_in_Indiana: correct
06/2/05 21:09:40 Charlene_in_OK: Were there more babies on the ones you had in gel than you normally get from leaves, or was that normal for YOU jana?
06/2/05 21:09:45 frankgschlicht: How full do you fill them?
06/2/05 21:09:55 Jana_in_Indiana: Gel2Root is a liquid gel, with hormones, fertilizer, everything the plant needs
06/2/05 21:10:14 Jana_in_Indiana: pretty full, depending on the size of the leaf
06/2/05 21:10:50 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, the Gel2Root does make more babies than I usually get on leaves in soil
06/2/05 21:11:00 Charlene_in_OK: that's just showing off Jana lol
06/2/05 21:11:14 Peggy_in_Pa: Jana How do the root in the gel adapt to soil
06/2/05 21:11:14 Charlene_in_OK: I have to try that, that was so amazing
06/2/05 21:11:16 Jana_in_Indiana: but I don't really need 10 babies of each variety!  OR DO I???? LOL
06/2/05 21:11:32 frankgschlicht: Does this mean that you try to submerge the entire petiole? If so, how long is the petiole, or do you want it to touch the bottom of the cup?
06/2/05 21:12:03 Charlene_in_OK: The way my new ones look I think I am going to need all the help I can get to keep them alive
06/2/05 21:12:06 Jana_in_Indiana: really well Peggy!  You can rinse the gel off or leave it on, place in soil & dome for a couple of weeks to let roots get established well
06/2/05 21:12:57 Jana_in_Indiana: no, I didn't submerge the entire petiole, just try to get it about 1/2 inch into the gel, assuming it will stay up & isn't huge
06/2/05 21:13:18 Charlene_in_OK: Is it harder to grow ones from suppliers than the ones from the store? My new ones are looking a little worse each day?
06/2/05 21:13:22 Jana_in_Indiana: I did notice, if the gel gets onto the leaf, it will rot it!
06/2/05 21:14:00 Tony__IL: Frank, sounds like you have been growing AVs for along time
06/2/05 21:14:20 Jana_in_Indiana: yes & no Charlene, it depends on the amout of time that passes after the leaves have been removed, less time gives better results
06/2/05 21:14:23 Peggy_in_Pa: Jan do you cut the petole on an angle just you do in soil?
06/2/05 21:14:49 Charlene_in_OK: But mine are all plants Jana, not leaves?
06/2/05 21:15:00 Jana_in_Indiana: I cut the petiole on an angle Peggy
06/2/05 21:15:38 Jana_in_Indiana: then plants should be the same I would think, any comments Tony , Peggy, & Sherry?
06/2/05 21:15:40 sherry__(Mo): Are they babies Charlene?
06/2/05 21:16:21 Tony__IL: new have tried the Gel2, but should and send the babies to Sweden.
06/2/05 21:16:23 Charlene_in_OK: well the standards only have about 5 or 6 leaves but they are full size leaves or close to it.
06/2/05 21:16:51 sherry__(Mo): are they domed?
06/2/05 21:17:02 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, did you e-mail her & ask her to write me?  I still don't have a reply from sophie!
06/2/05 21:17:06 Charlene_in_OK: the minis and semis I have no idea they have lots of leaves but are itty bitty leaves, oh so cute Jana
06/2/05 21:17:19 Tony__IL: Also have to get her address, J
06/2/05 21:17:30 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm not good with the little ones
06/2/05 21:17:46 Charlene_in_OK: I have put them all in the plastic shoeboxes we talked about last night.
06/2/05 21:17:50 frankgschlicht: Charlene, are you referring to potted plants? If so, and you are wick watering, the soil they are in is probably too heavy and it is keeping the roots too wet.  Try taking them of the rservoir, and letting them dry out.
06/2/05 21:18:06 Jana_in_Indiana: you need her e0mail address Tony?  I just want her to e-mail me, figure my e-mail to her went in her spam folder, LOL
06/2/05 21:18:43 Charlene_in_OK: I have just been watering them with a dropper since I got them trying to make sure they werent over watered. Have not repotted yet.
06/2/05 21:18:43 Tony__IL: no mailing address. Will ask he again to get in touch w/u
06/2/05 21:18:44 Jana_in_Indiana: Charlene, you placed them on newspapers or paper towels first for a few hours?
06/2/05 21:18:53 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks T
06/2/05 21:19:17 sherry__(Mo): You might want to repot into your soil mix-I repot everything I get
06/2/05 21:19:18 Charlene_in_OK: Before I water Jana?
06/2/05 21:19:30 frankgschlicht: A little over two years now, but have been growing plants for about 60 years. Took care of a teaching greenhouse for 6 years.
06/2/05 21:19:36 Jana_in_Indiana: didn't you say last night take they were really wet?
06/2/05 21:19:48 Charlene_in_OK: No that was someone else
06/2/05 21:19:57 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, sorry!  My mistake
06/2/05 21:20:01 Charlene_in_OK: I have been extremely careful not to overwater
06/2/05 21:20:04 sherry__(Mo): I bet you could teach us a thing or two Frank!!
06/2/05 21:20:39 Charlene_in_OK: They really don't look too bad I guess but some of the minis are getting a brown edge on the leaves
06/2/05 21:20:47 Jana_in_Indiana: Frank, are you a member of Variegated Violet village?  One of the members there has some questions about growing AV's in a greenhouse
06/2/05 21:21:36 Charlene_in_OK: Jana, I will try to send a couple of pictures to get your take on whether they look like they are in trouble, if I can get a good shot.
06/2/05 21:21:39 frankgschlicht: What I know I have learned by consuming everything I can put my hands on and the school of hard knocks
06/2/05 21:21:58 Charlene_in_OK: Ain't that the truth Frank
06/2/05 21:22:18 Charlene_in_OK: My husband says I am a walking library I read everything about something I am interested in.
06/2/05 21:22:47 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I'll let you know about the photos charlene
06/2/05 21:23:13 Charlene_in_OK: I will email them in the a.m. tomorrow Jana
06/2/05 21:23:29 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/2/05 21:23:30 frankgschlicht: I am not a member but feel I can shed some light on the subject. Common sense addresses most of the issues. Have them contact me at aged_sage@hotmail.com
06/2/05 21:23:55 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I will, Thanks Frank!  His name is Floyd
06/2/05 21:24:14 frankgschlicht: I look forward to hearing from him.
06/2/05 21:24:25 Charlene_in_OK: Where are you located Frank?
06/2/05 21:24:35 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll send you his questions & his e-mail so you can reply, OK Frank?
06/2/05 21:25:22 frankgschlicht: I am in a suburb 25 miles west of Houston, Tx.
06/2/05 21:25:45 frankgschlicht: Sounds good to me.
06/2/05 21:26:17 Charlene_in_OK: Oh by the way got my FC2 today, they are much faster than they think on shipping.  It is awesome lol
06/2/05 21:26:44 Jana_in_Indiana: I just sent it Frank, thanks for helping!
06/2/05 21:27:08 sherry__(Mo): That will keep you busy for awhile Charlene! Deciding which ones you want next-LOL
06/2/05 21:27:11 frankgschlicht: Charlene, where in Oklahoma are you located? I am an Okie by birth.
06/2/05 21:27:16 Jana_in_Indiana: I think they tell you that in case it takes a while, so they don't get lots of phone calls complaining
06/2/05 21:27:32 Charlene_in_OK: I'm in Stillwater, OK Frank
06/2/05 21:28:02 sherry__(Mo): Gotta run-sorry-have a good evening!!
06/2/05 21:28:12 Charlene_in_OK: I thought everyone in Houston was a transplant from Oklahoma lol
06/2/05 21:28:12 frankgschlicht: I am familiar with Stillwater. I was born in Burlington. Kkow where it is?
06/2/05 21:28:16 Charlene_in_OK: Buy Sherry
06/2/05 21:28:20 Jana_in_Indiana: Stillwater, makes sense, water is about all you have there for AV's charlene!   :p
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06/2/05 21:28:30 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Sherry!
06/2/05 21:28:41 Charlene_in_OK: Aint that the truth Jana
06/2/05 21:28:57 Jana_in_Indiana: any more questions?
06/2/05 21:29:25 Charlene_in_OK: My husband has actually done a little bit of a/c work in Burlington Frank
06/2/05 21:29:28 Jana_in_Indiana: boy, we covered gel crystals, Texas Style Potting and Gel2Root!  We've been busy!
06/2/05 21:29:47 frankgschlicht: I prefer Scotch. No more questions fr0om here.
06/2/05 21:29:48 Charlene_in_OK: Great chat, I feel like violeting again lol
06/2/05 21:30:15 Charlene_in_OK: So much new info so little time lol
06/2/05 21:30:19 frankgschlicht: I would, but mine have already gone to bed!
06/2/05 21:30:39 Jana_in_Indiana: OMG!  I'm so blind!  I thought you wrote, "I feel like vomiting"  ROTFLMBO!@!!!!
06/2/05 21:31:03 Charlene_in_OK: I think I am hitting the hay too.  Jana I will email in the a.m.  Jana, you are too funny
06/2/05 21:31:12 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Charlene!
06/2/05 21:31:19 Charlene_in_OK: nite all, god bless
06/2/05 21:31:58 frankgschlicht: Good night and happy growing.
06/2/05 21:32:07 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Frank!
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06/2/05 21:32:54 Jana_in_Indiana: well Peggy & Tony, shall we call it a night?  Or are there questions?
06/2/05 21:33:07 Tony__IL: Frank seems like an interesting and knowledgable follow
06/2/05 21:33:15 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, he does!
06/2/05 21:33:17 Tony__IL: fellow
06/2/05 21:34:27 Tony__IL: maybe I could have my son send an order to AZ and then when it comes payment time, just say my Dad says you owe him. LOL
06/2/05 21:34:44 Jana_in_Indiana: VERY GOOD idea!
06/2/05 21:35:05 Jana_in_Indiana: but she might recognize the address, have it sent to a family member not living there!
06/2/05 21:35:14 Tony__IL: still gripes my butt
06/2/05 21:35:14 Jana_in_Indiana: remember the chat is logged!
06/2/05 21:35:28 Jana_in_Indiana: Me too & it happened to YOU!
06/2/05 21:35:29 Tony__IL: but
06/2/05 21:35:46 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, you can say butt, but not scr ape!  LOL!
06/2/05 21:36:21 Tony__IL: well you made it thru another chat and on wards to the week end Jana
06/2/05 21:36:26 Jana_in_Indiana: I hate people that rip you off so they can make money!  Much less all the lies!
06/2/05 21:36:43 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, maybe I'll get more repotting done tomorrow!
06/2/05 21:37:00 Tony__IL: I'll see if I can make a list of what I lost and see if you have any, J
06/2/05 21:37:08 Jana_in_Indiana: I took those photos for TSP at 4 AM this morning!  LOL!
06/2/05 21:37:21 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, send it, I'll send you any I have!
06/2/05 21:38:07 Tony__IL: I did count how many pots I needed for tray. Put the wick and perlite in the pots and then started. Did seem like it went faster
06/2/05 21:38:10 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, you do know you were the FIRST one to give me named AV's?
06/2/05 21:38:29 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, I'm sure that did make it faster
06/2/05 21:38:57 Tony__IL: well great LOL. and the first to deliver in a beer case
06/2/05 21:39:01 Jana_in_Indiana: & you GAVE them to me, drove all that way to the show, asked for nothing in return!  you're a gem!
06/2/05 21:39:14 Jana_in_Indiana: yah, but you forgot the beer!
06/2/05 21:39:30 Tony__IL: sometimes I'm more trying than others
06/2/05 21:39:41 Tony__IL: had no room for the beer
06/2/05 21:39:59 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL!
06/2/05 21:40:42 Jana_in_Indiana: Peggy, where'd you go?
06/2/05 21:40:50 Tony__IL: Peggy, the first time I met Jana was at an IL convention. I took her some plants and put them in a Budweiser case. It was the only box I had in the house. LOL
06/2/05 21:41:26 Jana_in_Indiana: no doubt how that box got in the house, LOL
06/2/05 21:41:52 Tony__IL: I had several in the basement as I was making homemade beer
06/2/05 21:42:36 Tony__IL: who reads these chats?
06/2/05 21:42:43 Jana_in_Indiana: once at a cavy show in Wisc. we won so many trophies, I went looking for sturdy boxes, & ended up at a liquor store!  then we strapped the boxes on top of the car in the luggage rack!  Didn't think about what that looked like till we got home!  LOL
06/2/05 21:42:56 Jana_in_Indiana: I don't know who reads them, LOL!
06/2/05 21:43:45 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll bet it was a sight -- a fat gal, big old wagon full of kids!  LOL!
06/2/05 21:44:10 Tony__IL: well done repotting. Don't know how I came up with empty trys and some of the trays only have 4-5 plants as they are so big.
06/2/05 21:44:29 Jana_in_Indiana: probably from removing some leaves?
06/2/05 21:44:34 Tony__IL: will have to do some re-arranging
06/2/05 21:44:43 Jana_in_Indiana: or maybe just arranging them better?
06/2/05 21:44:47 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
06/2/05 21:44:50 Tony__IL: tossed out a LOT of them
06/2/05 21:44:56 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that's it!
06/2/05 21:45:29 Tony__IL: still would like to have a plant like your son was holding
06/2/05 21:45:50 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, next show I'll get you one -- but how will I ship it?
06/2/05 21:46:03 Jana_in_Indiana: it would cost $100 to drive it to you!
06/2/05 21:46:25 Tony__IL: meet you coming back from Minnesota
06/2/05 21:46:49 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I will most likely fly, Anngela isn't going
06/2/05 21:47:32 Tony__IL: probably be more convenient, but you won't be able to bring home as many plants, just leaves
06/2/05 21:48:01 Jana_in_Indiana: right!  I already kenw that!  but, I sure don't need another huge bunch of them!
06/2/05 21:48:19 Jana_in_Indiana: better start praying for self control NOW!  LOL
06/2/05 21:48:54 Tony__IL: me neither, just like to get the ones I have looking better. Some of the little plants I had leaves of back in '03
06/2/05 21:49:31 Tony__IL: sure are taking their own sweet time
06/2/05 21:49:35 Jana_in_Indiana: wow!  I'll send you plant or leaves of any I have, I do know Elizzabeth croaked!
06/2/05 21:49:50 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL!  Yes, sometimes that are slow
06/2/05 21:50:03 Tony__IL: I do have Elizabeth
06/2/05 21:50:24 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I knew I got it from you, tossed it last night
06/2/05 21:50:50 Tony__IL: well I'll make up the list and send it to you and get to Sophie this weekend too
06/2/05 21:51:03 Jana_in_Indiana: I'd been babying it for months, just doesn't like living in my house I guess!
06/2/05 21:51:11 Jana_in_Indiana: ok!
06/2/05 21:51:21 Jana_in_Indiana: & get her to e-mail me!
06/2/05 21:51:28 Jana_in_Indiana: or find the one I sent to her
06/2/05 21:51:30 Tony__IL: can do
06/2/05 21:51:33 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/2/05 21:51:59 Tony__IL: calling it a night. See ya Sunday. Don't work too hard
06/2/05 21:52:05 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL,!
06/2/05 21:52:07 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite!
06/2/05 21:52:15 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Peggy!
06/2/05 21:52:16 Tony__IL: nite Jana
06/2/05 21:52:20 Tony__IL Logs Out
06/2/05 21:52:22 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out