05/5/05 19:42:23 jim_in_nd Logs in [69.9.219.17]
05/5/05 19:42:29 jim_in_nd Logs Out
05/5/05 19:44:47 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.151.196.242]
05/5/05 19:46:52 Jana_in_Indiana Leaves Subroom
05/5/05 19:52:46 Alcedok9 Logs in [63.18.104.219]
05/5/05 19:52:58 Alcedok9: There you are!
05/5/05 19:53:04 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Chris!
05/5/05 19:53:15 Alcedok9: I was hoping to find someone here, I have a question..
05/5/05 19:53:16 Jana_in_Indiana: of course!  LOL!
05/5/05 19:53:33 Jana_in_Indiana: shoot!
05/5/05 19:53:51 Alcedok9: we got these shelves.. and they can be adjusted to  height... how far above your plants do you put the lights?
05/5/05 19:54:21 Jana_in_Indiana: well, this is Thursday & this is Tony's & my chat!
05/5/05 19:54:32 Jana_in_Indiana: oops, meant chat night!  LOL!
05/5/05 19:54:37 Alcedok9: ahhh
05/5/05 19:54:49 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, is it the 'kitchen rack'?
05/5/05 19:54:55 Jana_in_Indiana: how many shelves?
05/5/05 19:55:07 Alcedok9: 5 if you include the top one
05/5/05 19:55:18 TonyC Logs in [207.43.75.34]
05/5/05 19:55:22 Alcedok9: 39 inches wide by about 5 ft tall
05/5/05 19:55:23 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tony!
05/5/05 19:55:27 Alcedok9: hi Tony
05/5/05 19:55:44 Jana_in_Indiana: 39 inches?  It's not 4 foot long?
05/5/05 19:55:48 jim_in_nd Logs in [69.9.219.17]
05/5/05 19:55:52 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Jim!
05/5/05 19:55:58 Alcedok9: oops  36 not 39 .... typo
05/5/05 19:55:58 jim_in_nd: hi
05/5/05 19:56:05 TonyC: hi Ladies. Who the experts in psychosis?
05/5/05 19:56:20 Alcedok9: well.. I dont think I could even spell it.. so its not me!
05/5/05 19:56:20 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, we all are Tony!   *)
05/5/05 19:56:38 jim_in_nd: how is everyone on this fine night
05/5/05 19:56:45 Jana_in_Indiana: we're all psychotic about AV's!
05/5/05 19:56:55 Jana_in_Indiana: fine Jim, & you?
05/5/05 19:56:56 TonyC: hi Jim, doing fine
05/5/05 19:56:57 jim_in_nd: and other things
05/5/05 19:56:59 Alcedok9: Im great , my husband is doing my shelves
05/5/05 19:57:03 jim_in_nd: im good
05/5/05 19:57:27 jim_in_nd: whats tonigts chat about
05/5/05 19:57:28 Alcedok9: Hi Jim
05/5/05 19:57:40 jim_in_nd Logs Out
05/5/05 19:57:45 jim_in_nd Logs in [69.9.219.17]
05/5/05 19:57:52 Alcedok9: Im just trying to figure out how high to tell my hubby to make these shelves LOL
05/5/05 19:57:54 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, 36 " long shelves, I'd just space them evenly, about 16-18 inches apart, whatever fits evenly
05/5/05 19:58:00 Jana_in_Indiana: WB Jim!
05/5/05 19:58:01 jim_in_nd: i booted myself lol
05/5/05 19:58:38 Jana_in_Indiana: then, when you find you have an AV that wants more light, set it on an upside down butter tub, or something similar to elevate that plant
05/5/05 19:58:41 Alcedok9: I dont have enough violets to fill all the shelves. so I can make it whatever it needs to be to make the light the right distance from the plant. Can you get them too close ? too far away?
05/5/05 19:59:09 del Logs in [70.64.104.53]
05/5/05 19:59:13 Alcedok9: oh.. okay I can do that too
05/5/05 19:59:15 Alcedok9: hey Del
05/5/05 19:59:22 Jana_in_Indiana: too close will give you tight centers, been there done that, LOL!
05/5/05 19:59:27 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Del!
05/5/05 19:59:46 del: Hi everyone
05/5/05 20:00:10 Jana_in_Indiana: I put the bottom shelf up high enough that those tubs made for under bed storage fit under & keep my pots & stuff in them
05/5/05 20:00:21 Alcedok9: okay.. cant have tight centers LOL... hey if I sat my butt under a light would I get.. oh never mind
05/5/05 20:00:31 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
05/5/05 20:01:10 jim_in_nd: hi del
05/5/05 20:01:13 Alcedok9: I was going to put this in the bird room, but decided I want them out here by the puter..
05/5/05 20:01:15 del: what are we talking on tonight ???
05/5/05 20:01:26 Jana_in_Indiana: Del, someone was asking why you said to put newly put down leaves in darkenss for 24 hours -- could you explain why?
05/5/05 20:01:32 Walt_in_MD Logs in [24.35.119.251]
05/5/05 20:01:34 Jana_in_Indiana: anything you want Del, LOL!
05/5/05 20:01:34 jim_in_nd: pychois
05/5/05 20:01:36 Alcedok9: hi Walt
05/5/05 20:01:38 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Walt!
05/5/05 20:01:39 jim_in_nd: hi walt
05/5/05 20:01:46 Walt_in_MD: Hi all
05/5/05 20:01:48 del: sure can here goes
05/5/05 20:02:27 jim_in_nd: yes id like to know too
05/5/05 20:02:45 Jana_in_Indiana: we trust & believe you Del, we do it, just wonder why?  LOL
05/5/05 20:03:19 del: after you have  started the leaf in thew container this COULD happen you would get droppy leaves so if you keep them in the dark for 24 hours less chance of the leaf getting stress and droopy leaves
05/5/05 20:03:23 Carol_SK Logs in [142.165.188.63]
05/5/05 20:03:32 jim_in_nd: hi carol
05/5/05 20:03:34 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Carol!
05/5/05 20:03:39 del: Hi Carol
05/5/05 20:03:48 Carol_SK: Hi Jim, Hi Jana, hi Del
05/5/05 20:03:52 Alcedok9: that makes sense.. I just told them today when they asked me... because Del said so .. thats why LOL
05/5/05 20:03:53 Walt_in_MD: hi Carol
05/5/05 20:03:57 jim_in_nd: so the dark calms them?
05/5/05 20:04:14 Carol_SK: Hi Walt, Tony and Chris
05/5/05 20:04:23 Alcedok9: Hi Carol
05/5/05 20:04:27 del: the leaf has a change to condition itself haveing no bright light
05/5/05 20:04:28 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks Del!
05/5/05 20:04:32 TonyC: hi Carol
05/5/05 20:04:39 Alcedok9: psst Jana its looking like a plant stand LOL
05/5/05 20:04:45 del: yes it does jim
05/5/05 20:04:55 jim_in_nd: gotta run dinner tiime
05/5/05 20:04:59 jim_in_nd: see you all later
05/5/05 20:05:00 Alcedok9: night Jim
05/5/05 20:05:10 Carol_SK: have a good dinner Jim
05/5/05 20:05:15 del: come back if you can jim
05/5/05 20:05:15 Walt_in_MD: I just thought you didn't want it to know it had gotten lost :p
05/5/05 20:05:28 jim_in_nd Logs Out
05/5/05 20:05:33 Alcedok9: you guys are going to laugh.. but I put down.. THREE leaves yesterday  LOL..
05/5/05 20:05:47 Jana_in_Indiana: great chris!
05/5/05 20:05:53 Carol_SK: three is good
05/5/05 20:05:58 Walt_in_MD: good for you
05/5/05 20:06:02 del: good for you hope you have great success with them
05/5/05 20:06:02 Jana_in_Indiana: 30 is better, LOL
05/5/05 20:06:23 Carol_SK: lol Jana
05/5/05 20:06:34 Alcedok9: well, its all the leaves I wanted to take off my 2 noids.. I could have taken more if I wanted the bigger outside leaves
05/5/05 20:06:40 del: why stop there jana LOL
05/5/05 20:06:44 Walt_in_MD: No I put down 100 and that still wasn't enough
05/5/05 20:06:59 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
05/5/05 20:07:02 Alcedok9: you probably have more then 2 plants to get leaves from huh?
05/5/05 20:07:11 Carol_SK: I keep putting them down in dribs and drabs
05/5/05 20:07:19 Jana_in_Indiana: right!
05/5/05 20:07:37 del: after the birthday give away plants I started another 20 thats enough till I get more room
05/5/05 20:07:49 Alcedok9: because if I remember right, Millie said not to use the last layer of leaves right?
05/5/05 20:07:53 Walt_in_MD: by the way they they just started popping mouse ears.
05/5/05 20:07:58 Jana_in_Indiana: right Chris
05/5/05 20:08:09 Alcedok9: ahh Walt, babies
05/5/05 20:08:35 Alcedok9: I'm getting 4 new babies next week or so
05/5/05 20:08:40 Carol_SK: lots of babies in a bit Walt
05/5/05 20:08:41 Shellie_NM Logs in [68.35.120.27]
05/5/05 20:08:45 Walt_in_MD: 7 sets out of 100 and in less then 5 weeks
05/5/05 20:08:46 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Shellie!
05/5/05 20:08:46 Carol_SK: Hi Shellie
05/5/05 20:08:55 del: Hi Shellie
05/5/05 20:08:58 Walt_in_MD: Hi Shellie
05/5/05 20:09:08 Carol_SK: that is quick for sure
05/5/05 20:09:11 Shellie_NM: Hi  everyone
05/5/05 20:09:23 Shellie_NM Logs Out
05/5/05 20:09:24 Jana_in_Indiana: wonderful Walt!
05/5/05 20:09:46 del: i made an outside hot bed for the wife today so by saturday I will get back 2 of my shelves LOL
05/5/05 20:09:46 Shellie_NM Logs in [68.35.120.27]
05/5/05 20:10:02 Jana_in_Indiana: WB Shellie!  Stay awhile this time, LOL
05/5/05 20:10:03 TonyC: hi Shellie
05/5/05 20:10:10 Alcedok9: Del.. good for you
05/5/05 20:10:12 Shellie_NM: I'll try
05/5/05 20:10:14 Walt_in_MD: trouble is now I have to make room for them, I put the cart before the house I mean horse
05/5/05 20:10:26 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
05/5/05 20:10:43 del: Tony how are the eyes doing
05/5/05 20:10:47 Alcedok9: I'm getting Buckeye Country Lilacs, Winter Warrior, Apache Victory and Ma's Frog Land..
05/5/05 20:10:59 Alcedok9: Walt LOL
05/5/05 20:11:05 Jana_in_Indiana: from where Chris?
05/5/05 20:11:06 TonyC: pretty good, Del
05/5/05 20:11:12 Alcedok9: Cheryl
05/5/05 20:11:22 Jana_in_Indiana: cool, STJ?
05/5/05 20:11:26 del: good to hear Tony
05/5/05 20:11:44 Alcedok9: no for last months contest
05/5/05 20:11:50 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, ok
05/5/05 20:11:53 Walt_in_MD: that's great Tony
05/5/05 20:12:07 TonyC: Walt, what do you do with so many when you have to divide babies?
05/5/05 20:12:25 Jana_in_Indiana: throw away the sofa!
05/5/05 20:12:34 Alcedok9: get more shelves?
05/5/05 20:12:38 del: how many do you keep walt???
05/5/05 20:13:02 Alcedok9: Did I read somewhere you get bigger blooms if they are cooler?
05/5/05 20:13:46 Walt_in_MD: I haven't desided on keepers yet only mouse ears right now. But I should become a trading fool in a couple of months
05/5/05 20:13:50 del: carol did you get your STJ package yet ????
05/5/05 20:14:02 Shellie_NM: Hey everybody, the repair man is here to replace the non-functioning CD drive on my new computer.  So I have to shut down Be back when he is done.
05/5/05 20:14:13 Alcedok9: good luck Shellie
05/5/05 20:14:15 Shellie_NM Logs Out
05/5/05 20:14:17 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Shellie!
05/5/05 20:14:27 del: night Shellie
05/5/05 20:15:04 Alcedok9: Walt what kind of leaves did you put down? names I mean
05/5/05 20:15:25 Walt_in_MD: By the way I now have a personal website and have all the names on there
05/5/05 20:15:30 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, chris wants details!  *)
05/5/05 20:15:53 Jana_in_Indiana: give us the link please Walt?
05/5/05 20:16:08 Alcedok9: I like to go look at the pictures, so then I know what they look like when you guys talk about them
05/5/05 20:16:30 Jana_in_Indiana: Chris, you need to get FC2!
05/5/05 20:16:47 Walt_in_MD: I will post to the group tonight. It is not finished but it has a good start.
05/5/05 20:16:59 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Walt!
05/5/05 20:17:15 Alcedok9: Ive been getting some off of the web sites for the vendors and off the AVSA web site
05/5/05 20:17:24 Walt_in_MD: that program is a God send to poor typerers
05/5/05 20:17:36 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, it sure is!
05/5/05 20:17:56 Alcedok9: My dad types slow.. but ya know, what he says is worth waiting for.. so take your time.. wisdom isnt fast
05/5/05 20:18:27 Jana_in_Indiana: sometimes stupidity is slow too, LOL
05/5/05 20:18:46 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm am expert at that,  ;)
05/5/05 20:18:53 Alcedok9: I can type pretty fast,, but I make lots of typos
05/5/05 20:18:55 Walt_in_MD: I know and I am full of it at times. At least that is what my wife says
05/5/05 20:19:12 Jana_in_Indiana: wives always say that!  :P
05/5/05 20:20:00 Alcedok9: okay... I just dont tell everyone this... but as a child my parents made me.. and the key word here is MADE me play the accordian.. omg my secret is out.. but it did make me a better typer
05/5/05 20:20:02 Jana_in_Indiana: Carol, don't be so quiet!
05/5/05 20:20:17 Carol_SK: laffin not me!!!
05/5/05 20:20:28 Carol_SK: quiet? never
05/5/05 20:20:30 Walt_in_MD: I don't have it on my site yet but will put a I HAVE IT TO TRADE PAGE on there over the weekend
05/5/05 20:20:55 Jana_in_Indiana: I too played & still have my accordion from childhood, didn't help my typing on bit!
05/5/05 20:21:14 del: did you get your STJ package  carol
05/5/05 20:21:26 Jana_in_Indiana: I wish I was smart enough to put up a web page
05/5/05 20:21:27 Alcedok9: my siblings also played and they are all good typers.. hummmm
05/5/05 20:21:45 Alcedok9: Jana there are web page builders they say are really easy to do
05/5/05 20:22:00 Carol_SK: no, she was only going to send it if it was nice at the beginning of the week, so maybe next week Del\
05/5/05 20:22:00 Jana_in_Indiana: the ket words are  THEY SAY!
05/5/05 20:22:00 del: I just started typeing 5 years ago LOL
05/5/05 20:22:05 Alcedok9: LOL
05/5/05 20:22:10 Alcedok9: Del you are doing fine
05/5/05 20:22:22 Walt_in_MD: It was so easy it is scary. I used MS Publisher 2000
05/5/05 20:22:22 Jana_in_Indiana: me too Del!
05/5/05 20:22:35 del: waiting to hear the good ones you get carol
05/5/05 20:22:39 Alcedok9: Im just getting so I can scan and post pictures and such
05/5/05 20:22:45 Carol_SK: Jana do you have a web page?
05/5/05 20:22:57 Carol_SK: yes, I shall have to let you know
05/5/05 20:22:58 Jana_in_Indiana: ROTFLMBO!!!!
05/5/05 20:23:02 Alcedok9: Carol didnt you get some new plants?
05/5/05 20:23:04 del: long as i look at the key board LOL
05/5/05 20:23:22 Shellie_NM Logs in [68.35.120.27]
05/5/05 20:23:26 Jana_in_Indiana: I can't type & read at the same time either Del, LOL
05/5/05 20:23:34 Jana_in_Indiana: that was quick Shellie!
05/5/05 20:23:34 Carol_SK: me?? no <sigh> ... but I am waiting patiently
05/5/05 20:23:35 Alcedok9: wow Shellie that was FAST!
05/5/05 20:23:53 del: jana can  you darken your words some PLEASE
05/5/05 20:24:01 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.144.7.251]
05/5/05 20:24:09 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sherry
05/5/05 20:24:12 del: hi sweet heart
05/5/05 20:24:19 Walt_in_MD: Hi Sherry
05/5/05 20:24:22 Jana_in_Indiana: are my words dark enought now?
05/5/05 20:24:26 sherry__(Mo): Hi everyone-sorry I'm late!!
05/5/05 20:24:28 TonyC: hi Sherry
05/5/05 20:24:34 del: perfect jana thanks
05/5/05 20:24:52 Jana_in_Indiana: they're only that light color if I type your name, also causes a beep!
05/5/05 20:24:53 Shellie_NM: Replacing a cd drive is as simple as open the side, unplug the 2 plugs on the back of the dirive, remove one screw and slide the unit out.  It took all of 5 minutes.
05/5/05 20:24:55 Carol_SK: I think it might be the name thing Jana
05/5/05 20:25:05 Jana_in_Indiana: see Del?
05/5/05 20:25:27 Jana_in_Indiana: great Shellie, next time you can do it
05/5/05 20:25:33 del: sure is for someone  who knows how I would never try it
05/5/05 20:25:38 Carol_SK: better her than me
05/5/05 20:25:47 Alcedok9: does everyone here leave their lights on for 12 hours?\
05/5/05 20:26:01 Jana_in_Indiana: nope, got tight centers for that!
05/5/05 20:26:03 sherry__(Mo): I don't in the summer
05/5/05 20:26:06 del: 10 hours for me
05/5/05 20:26:15 Alcedok9: ahhh
05/5/05 20:26:18 Shellie_NM: No thanks, thats why I paid for for the better warantee with in home service.
05/5/05 20:26:22 TonyC: 8-10 here
05/5/05 20:26:24 Jana_in_Indiana: 8 to 10 for me now
05/5/05 20:26:34 Walt_in_MD: yes all day right now
05/5/05 20:26:50 del: next month my  time goes down to 8 hours
05/5/05 20:26:54 Alcedok9: oh okay.. someone told me they leave theirs on from 10 at night to 10 in the morning,, so the av would get no down time doing that
05/5/05 20:27:01 Jana_in_Indiana: good idea Shellie!  Don't let it expire -- the next day you'll see smoke!  :P
05/5/05 20:27:28 Jana_in_Indiana: & also said electricity is cheaper at night?  Does anyone know about that?
05/5/05 20:27:48 Alcedok9: It doesnt make a differnce here on price
05/5/05 20:27:52 Carol_SK: I thought AVs needed time to rest
05/5/05 20:27:58 sherry__(Mo): I've heard that Jana
05/5/05 20:27:59 del: yes cause the other lights plus TV  are off then Jana
05/5/05 20:28:04 Alcedok9: but I was thinking.. if the lights were on all night, and there was light in the daytime.. ?
05/5/05 20:28:27 Walt_in_MD: the electric is cheaper at night, but if you don't give your av's a break they break
05/5/05 20:28:35 Jana_in_Indiana: Del, the hormones that cause blossoms to form, aren't they created in darkenss?
05/5/05 20:29:03 del: not sure never thought about that Jana
05/5/05 20:29:28 Alcedok9: Im thinking that they wouldnt have light that long in the "wild"
05/5/05 20:29:35 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm sure I read that in some of the scientific literature, when researching Tissue Culture
05/5/05 20:29:40 Carol_SK: maybe there is no daylight that gets in where the plants are
05/5/05 20:30:03 Alcedok9: Thats one reason I didnt want them in with my canaries.. they would be upset with no sleep
05/5/05 20:30:21 Walt_in_MD: That would almost work for me in the basement
05/5/05 20:30:24 del: yust think back jana a plant when you  look before bed no open blooms then you look at the same plant in the morning  it is blooming at least one flower is
05/5/05 20:30:41 Jana_in_Indiana: right
05/5/05 20:31:05 del: I think it was jeff smith said violets need 8 hours of darkness
05/5/05 20:31:11 Jana_in_Indiana: but this was about the hormones that cause the initiation of the bloom stalk, long before you can see it
05/5/05 20:31:16 Alcedok9: it makes sense to me
05/5/05 20:31:19 sherry__(Mo): True Del. Infact I have a few that the bloom sems to partially close at night-or so it seems
05/5/05 20:31:44 Carol_SK: yes Sherry so do I when they are first forming
05/5/05 20:31:46 del: yes i have seen that happen Sherry
05/5/05 20:31:53 Walt_in_MD: He and several others
05/5/05 20:31:54 Alcedok9: so between 8 to 10 hours of lights being on should be okay..
05/5/05 20:32:12 del: I think so
05/5/05 20:32:33 Alcedok9: and the leaves dont really need to be under lights until they have mouse ears right?
05/5/05 20:32:47 Jana_in_Indiana: you would slowly increase to 12 hours IF you were growing to show
05/5/05 20:33:09 Alcedok9: showing is years off Im afraid LOL
05/5/05 20:33:14 Alcedok9: right now showing dogs is enough
05/5/05 20:33:20 del: want to try somethin  you can leave a starter leaf in the dark and it still will form  roots
05/5/05 20:33:21 Walt_in_MD: If you read the articles by some of the folks that show they can have lights on up to 16 hours a day
05/5/05 20:33:37 Jana_in_Indiana: for me, "showing up" is all I can handle now, LOL
05/5/05 20:33:43 sherry__(Mo): LOL
05/5/05 20:33:50 del: me to jana
05/5/05 20:33:53 Alcedok9: Jana LOL
05/5/05 20:34:43 Alcedok9: I use to have sometime up to 10 dogs in show coat.. I cant do it anymore
05/5/05 20:35:31 Walt_in_MD: Who was in the kenel  *)
05/5/05 20:35:47 Alcedok9: ahhh,, me sometimes
05/5/05 20:36:02 Walt_in_MD: I would think
05/5/05 20:36:02 Alcedok9: oh that was a dog house...
05/5/05 20:36:03 Jana_in_Indiana: I grew my yorkie into show coat 2 times, just to get great photos, but never again
05/5/05 20:36:15 Alcedok9: it takes a lot of work
05/5/05 20:36:37 Alcedok9: the portuguese water dogs are the worest..
05/5/05 20:36:42 Jana_in_Indiana: haven't done it with the new one yet, LOL!  I'll wait till after puppies
05/5/05 20:36:55 Alcedok9: now I only have austrailian shepherds in show coat.. so not so bad
05/5/05 20:36:56 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry for getting off topic!
05/5/05 20:36:59 Shellie_NM: I recently showed my violets for the first time.  And this weekend my dog is in Texas at 4 shows with her handler.  what kind of dogs do you have Alcedok9?
05/5/05 20:37:02 Alcedok9: oops me too
05/5/05 20:37:20 Walt_in_MD: Show coat or not my little bow legged toy poodle still would look a mess
05/5/05 20:37:22 Alcedok9: wow Shellie,, doing both
05/5/05 20:37:54 raz Logs in [66.189.179.126]
05/5/05 20:37:54 Alcedok9: isnt if funny how we all have dogs?
05/5/05 20:37:56 Alcedok9: or most do?
05/5/05 20:37:58 Jana_in_Indiana: D e l, be sure to let me know when it's safe to send you leaves of Vampire's Kiss
05/5/05 20:38:05 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Raz!
05/5/05 20:38:05 Shellie_NM: and cats
05/5/05 20:38:13 raz: hi
05/5/05 20:38:16 Alcedok9: another av to look up...
05/5/05 20:38:17 Jana_in_Indiana: name  & state please?
05/5/05 20:38:18 del: I am counting the days Jana
05/5/05 20:38:21 Shellie_NM: hi Raz
05/5/05 20:38:38 raz: I'm from washington state
05/5/05 20:38:42 Walt_in_MD: Del I ment to ask where abouts is home
05/5/05 20:38:48 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I need to check on the leaves of nymph fly, not sure how they're doing today
05/5/05 20:39:03 del: saskatoon Sask. Canada walt
05/5/05 20:40:13 Shellie_NM: Cavaliers are shown natural and have a trouble free single coat.  A snood is all you need to grow the ears.  I used to have standard poodles, now thats a challenge to get in show coat
05/5/05 20:40:14 Jana_in_Indiana: would you believe I haven't lost a single leaf I brought home from convention?
05/5/05 20:40:22 Walt_in_MD: I'll have to look that one up. My knowledge of Canada is limited
05/5/05 20:40:33 sherry__(Mo): That's great Jana!!
05/5/05 20:40:38 Alcedok9: Jana wow thats good
05/5/05 20:40:46 Alcedok9: how many did you bring home
05/5/05 20:40:46 Jana_in_Indiana: guess my system worked!
05/5/05 20:40:47 Shellie_NM: good for you Jana
05/5/05 20:40:48 del: i got to get my list done so I can send it to you Jana I am sure there is a few you would be interested in
05/5/05 20:41:01 sherry__(Mo): Raz, are you new to AV's?
05/5/05 20:41:05 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I'm sure there is D e l
05/5/05 20:41:18 del: thats what I expected from you Jana ROTFLOL
05/5/05 20:41:21 Jana_in_Indiana: test J a n a
05/5/05 20:41:22 Alcedok9: Jana, how do you set yours.. just briefly.. gel?
05/5/05 20:41:32 Jana_in_Indiana: nope, not this time
05/5/05 20:41:37 sherry__(Mo): Del, I've about given up on getting a list made up!!
05/5/05 20:41:52 raz: sorry i was answering the phone. (teen!)
05/5/05 20:41:58 Walt_in_MD: How much trouble is it to send leaves in the mail between the two countries
05/5/05 20:42:05 Jana_in_Indiana: I took a 72 cell insert & tray w/ dome, & a 2 gallon bag of my soil, set all the leaves the day I got them
05/5/05 20:42:09 raz: I'm very new to avs but not to growing
05/5/05 20:42:09 del: seems i can never find the time to do it yet Sherry
05/5/05 20:42:19 raz: I have a nice collection of hoyas
05/5/05 20:42:20 del: waiting for a rainy day LOL
05/5/05 20:42:35 raz: avs seem to bloom a lot more freely
05/5/05 20:42:42 Alcedok9: is that one of those trays with little square places for plants?
05/5/05 20:42:46 sherry__(Mo): AV's are very addictive Raz-just ask the others here!! LOL
05/5/05 20:43:00 raz: I alo have streps
05/5/05 20:43:10 Jana_in_Indiana: my thinking was that the leaves from vendors HAD to get cut before their trip & adding 3 more days to that could be fatal!
05/5/05 20:43:18 raz: which are addictive
05/5/05 20:43:18 del: any od the mini ones Raz
05/5/05 20:43:19 Walt_in_MD: That sounded like me when all the leaves I ordered arrived. I was cross eyed when I got done
05/5/05 20:43:32 sherry__(Mo): I'm not familiar with hoyas-but do have a few streps
05/5/05 20:43:37 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Chris, 72 places for seedlings
05/5/05 20:43:45 sherry__(Mo): They are all addictive!!
05/5/05 20:44:02 Alcedok9: I bet you are right,, they needed to get started, and waiting to get home would have been added stress
05/5/05 20:44:27 raz: hoyas take up a lot of room and will only grace you with bloom if you seet talk them ;)
05/5/05 20:44:36 Shellie_NM: I have done that Jana in a tray with the 72 attached peat cups. It worked beautifully.  I used popsicle sticks to write the names on.
05/5/05 20:44:40 Jana_in_Indiana: some of the leaves Peggy got looked flat, as in flat as a board
05/5/05 20:44:44 sherry__(Mo): LOL Raz
05/5/05 20:44:55 Shellie_NM: oppps
05/5/05 20:45:25 Walt_in_MD: Raz for me the closest I have ever gotten to a strep is a strep throat :p  :p  :p
05/5/05 20:45:28 Alcedok9: Jana were they dried out to be that flat?
05/5/05 20:45:34 Jana_in_Indiana: I just used my own soil (really Pat's) & am amazed at the last batch I put in it, they are getting huge really fast!
05/5/05 20:45:45 del: did you pot up the shrubs Sherry yet ???
05/5/05 20:45:53 Alcedok9: Jana is her formula posted somewhere?
05/5/05 20:46:00 sherry__(Mo): Del and Walt-I finally remebered to email Fay about the way she does her leaves so am anxious to try it when I send yours!!
05/5/05 20:46:03 Jana_in_Indiana: not dry, just so limp they didn't have any shape
05/5/05 20:46:03 raz: I was wondering what everyone used for tags. Someone just sent me leaves andshe used a piece of solo cup to write on
05/5/05 20:46:27 del: good Sherry
05/5/05 20:46:49 Alcedok9: I hope they make it
05/5/05 20:46:57 Jana_in_Indiana: I got a bag of 500 labels at convention, pretty reasonable, easier than making them at the show
05/5/05 20:47:12 sherry__(Mo): I use tape Raz because tags get pulled out by the grandkids here
05/5/05 20:47:13 del: venition blinds cut into strip are good Raz
05/5/05 20:47:18 Walt_in_MD: I think she does them like I use to. Cut, plop in ziploc tag and off it goes.
05/5/05 20:47:26 Jana_in_Indiana: Pat Hancock's soil recipe is in the files of VR & VVV, let me know if you can't find it
05/5/05 20:47:31 raz: what do you write on them with that will stay on?
05/5/05 20:47:54 Alcedok9: that might be where I saw it... I've been reading at so many different places I cant remember anymore
05/5/05 20:48:02 del: what is her soil mix Jana ???
05/5/05 20:48:06 Shellie_NM: a fine point permanent marker pen, Sharpie makes them
05/5/05 20:48:08 sherry__(Mo): permanent markers Raz
05/5/05 20:48:22 del: periment black pen Raz
05/5/05 20:48:29 Jana_in_Indiana: raz, I use the labels sold & often used for prices on garage sale stuff, & stick them to the bags when shipping leaves
05/5/05 20:48:38 raz: I have used blinds before but the seem to fade
05/5/05 20:49:16 del: i use the white colored blinds no fear of  fading then Raz
05/5/05 20:49:23 Jana_in_Indiana: D e l it has compost, dehydrated cow manure, pro-mix BX, verm & perlite, plus some other stuff, LOL
05/5/05 20:49:46 Alcedok9: the only thing I dont know about is the pro-mix BX???
05/5/05 20:49:47 del: oh ok  I remember that mix then
05/5/05 20:50:04 del: it is the best i say
05/5/05 20:50:17 sherry__(Mo): I finally found a place fairly close that sells promix here
05/5/05 20:50:35 del: ues pro mix inside and out in the patio  flower boxes
05/5/05 20:50:44 Jana_in_Indiana: I did get 2 boxes of AV's last fall w/ blinds for tags, they fell out all over the box, then later I realized they were all faded!  Those AV's will go in the trash I fear
05/5/05 20:50:51 Alcedok9: Pro mix is the brand name
05/5/05 20:50:59 raz: I've just been making my own soil
05/5/05 20:51:16 del: wife and I use 3>< 3.8 size bags a year here
05/5/05 20:51:28 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, Home Depot carries some formulas of Pro-Mix, don't know if they have BX
05/5/05 20:51:32 Walt_in_MD: I have put all the plants and potted the leaves with the mix that violet showcase sells and and so pleased I just ordered another 40 qts.
05/5/05 20:51:34 raz: peat,perlite,verm,
05/5/05 20:51:34 Alcedok9: Jana you will really throw them away?
05/5/05 20:51:57 Alcedok9: Is Violot showcase the one in Denver?
05/5/05 20:52:25 Walt_in_MD: Yes it is
05/5/05 20:52:35 Jana_in_Indiana: I just might, they're still in isolation & looking pretty sad, I'll do the INSV test & see what happens
05/5/05 20:52:45 Alcedok9: Im trying to figure out a weekend we can go up there, Im about 90 min from there
05/5/05 20:53:01 Alcedok9: okay.. what is a INSV?
05/5/05 20:53:16 Jana_in_Indiana: Impatiens Necrotic Spot Virus
05/5/05 20:53:32 Jana_in_Indiana: fatal, nothing to cure it, spread by thrips
05/5/05 20:53:50 del: you keep it down there Jana we do not want any of it up here LOL
05/5/05 20:53:50 Jana_in_Indiana: the best reason I know of to use Marathon
05/5/05 20:54:12 Walt_in_MD: Paul Sorano is going to speak to the Baltimore AVC on Monday about it and I will be there.
05/5/05 20:54:31 Alcedok9: Walt take good notes
05/5/05 20:54:31 Jana_in_Indiana: D E L, at the convention, I was told that in the southern US, thrips are allowed to be in show AV's!!!!
05/5/05 20:54:33 sherry__(Mo): Great Walt!!
05/5/05 20:54:46 sherry__(Mo): WHAT Jana!?
05/5/05 20:54:53 Jana_in_Indiana: please take great notes & share with us all Walt!
05/5/05 20:55:04 del: never should be allowed Jana
05/5/05 20:55:30 Alcedok9: just what you need to bring home from a show
05/5/05 20:55:34 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, thrips are so common & almost impossible to get rid of in the south, they no longer DQ a plant w/ thrips from a show
05/5/05 20:55:39 Jana_in_Indiana: only in the south!
05/5/05 20:55:59 sherry__(Mo): I'd be afraid to even buy plants there!
05/5/05 20:56:01 Alcedok9: glad I live in Colorado
05/5/05 20:56:08 Walt_in_MD: I sure will and I need to call it quits as it is past my bed time. 5am gets here to fast. I will post my email to all on VR as soon as I leave.
05/5/05 20:56:15 del: right sherry
05/5/05 20:56:15 Jana_in_Indiana: makes me afraid to order anything south of the freeze line
05/5/05 20:56:19 Alcedok9: thantks Walt
05/5/05 20:56:23 sherry__(Mo): Take care Walt!
05/5/05 20:56:23 raz: cant a systemic work?
05/5/05 20:56:28 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Walt!
05/5/05 20:56:31 del: night Walt
05/5/05 20:56:33 Alcedok9: Jana that is something to think about
05/5/05 20:56:36 Shellie_NM: nite Walt
05/5/05 20:56:46 Walt_in_MD: By the way don't all of you try and look at the same time. Night all
05/5/05 20:56:53 Walt_in_MD Logs Out
05/5/05 20:57:08 Alcedok9: we will all get jammed up in the door trying to get to his site
05/5/05 20:57:51 Jana_in_Indiana: systemics only 'prevent', they don't kill, & the thrip has to taste the AV to know there's a systemic, one taste from a thrip carrying INSV is all it takes
05/5/05 20:57:58 Jana_in_Indiana: DEATH TO THRIPS!!!
05/5/05 20:58:12 raz Logs Out
05/5/05 20:58:23 Alcedok9: I hope I never get them
05/5/05 20:58:23 raz Logs in [66.189.179.126]
05/5/05 20:58:24 del: well folks gotta go see if anything in the hot bed needs water and put the windows on for the night
05/5/05 20:58:33 del: thanks for the great chat
05/5/05 20:58:33 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite D e l
05/5/05 20:58:35 Alcedok9: night Del.. sweet dreams
05/5/05 20:58:37 sherry__(Mo): Take care Del-hugs!!
05/5/05 20:59:01 del Logs Out
05/5/05 20:59:09 sherry__(Mo): I'm so glad to have Del back!!
05/5/05 20:59:18 Jana_in_Indiana: INSV was my original reason for saying I wouldn't buy any AV's at convention
05/5/05 20:59:24 Jana_in_Indiana: me too Sherry!
05/5/05 20:59:42 Alcedok9: are the plants you are worried about from the Convention?
05/5/05 21:00:10 Jana_in_Indiana: but, then I ordered the test kits & figured as loong as the AV's were from 'northern' growers, the risk was much less, still exists though
05/5/05 21:00:43 Alcedok9: On the Violet Showcase website, they ask that you not bring sick plants in for them to tell you whats wrong.. well duh.. but I be there are people who would do that
05/5/05 21:00:46 Jana_in_Indiana: no, the plants I'm worried about are from an e-bay seller, though I didn't purchase them on e-bay
05/5/05 21:00:52 Alcedok9: so how does the test work
05/5/05 21:00:57 raz: can someone please tell me what INSV is?
05/5/05 21:01:15 Jana_in_Indiana: Impatiens Necrotic Spot Virus
05/5/05 21:01:32 Alcedok9: Jana how does the plant look if it has INSV?
05/5/05 21:01:35 Jana_in_Indiana: raz, what's your e-mail, I'll send you the info
05/5/05 21:01:59 raz: razz98801@yahoo.com
05/5/05 21:02:08 Jana_in_Indiana: that's the bad part, it can look like mites, fertilizer burn, lots of things
05/5/05 21:02:23 Alcedok9: sounds like nasty stuff to me
05/5/05 21:02:23 raz: Impatiens?
05/5/05 21:02:38 Jana_in_Indiana: but the one last symptom to show is spotting, looks like a bulls eye
05/5/05 21:03:09 Alcedok9: Im glad you have them in isolation
05/5/05 21:03:12 Jana_in_Indiana: all plant viruses are named after the origiinal plant it's discovered on, this virus was first found on impatiens
05/5/05 21:03:23 raz: :o
05/5/05 21:03:40 Alcedok9: I've never had great luck with  impatiens.. probably because my yard wasnt that shady
05/5/05 21:03:52 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I always isolate everything, repot, put in a tray, dome & then tape the dome down with wide tape, it's air tight!
05/5/05 21:04:15 raz: how longdo you keep them in isolate
05/5/05 21:04:38 Jana_in_Indiana: just don't grow impatiens, if you want your AV's healthy, that's inviting trouble
05/5/05 21:05:05 Jana_in_Indiana: at least 3 months, this batch has been isolated since last Sept. 28
05/5/05 21:05:20 Jana_in_Indiana: only because they look so scrawney & unhealthy
05/5/05 21:05:29 Alcedok9: scratching impatiens off my list.....
05/5/05 21:05:38 sherry__(Mo): Are there many in the group Jana?
05/5/05 21:05:43 raz: me too
05/5/05 21:06:00 Jana_in_Indiana: it's an eniter perma-next tray packed full!
05/5/05 21:06:03 Alcedok9: are there any other plants to avoid?
05/5/05 21:06:08 sherry__(Mo): Darn!
05/5/05 21:06:13 Jana_in_Indiana: entire*
05/5/05 21:06:13 Alcedok9: double darn
05/5/05 21:06:25 Jana_in_Indiana: no, but one to get is an espicia!
05/5/05 21:06:31 Jana_in_Indiana: hope I spelled that right!
05/5/05 21:06:49 Alcedok9: never heard of it
05/5/05 21:06:50 Jana_in_Indiana: espicias are 'indicator' plants for thrips
05/5/05 21:06:54 Alcedok9: ahhh..
05/5/05 21:06:55 sherry__(Mo): Looks right Jana
05/5/05 21:06:56 TonyC: why is that
05/5/05 21:07:00 Jana_in_Indiana: they are in the AV family
05/5/05 21:07:05 Alcedok9: so the thrips would go there first?
05/5/05 21:07:28 sherry__(Mo): I think they are more delicate than AV's-just an oppinion
05/5/05 21:07:40 Jana_in_Indiana: they will show the damage from thrips long before AV's will & you'll get a jump on killing them -- Paul Sorano told us this at convention
05/5/05 21:07:48 raz: sooooo feed your thrips espicias
05/5/05 21:07:49 Carol_SK: episcia
05/5/05 21:08:07 sherry__(Mo): LOL Raz
05/5/05 21:08:08 Alcedok9: can you get them at some of the av vendors
05/5/05 21:08:11 Jana_in_Indiana: I got 1 espicia for each shelf, LOL!
05/5/05 21:08:23 Jana_in_Indiana: but of course, they are in isolation now too!
05/5/05 21:08:25 raz: I have one little tiny one not more then a mouthful
05/5/05 21:08:54 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, lots of av vendors have them, I got the mini onoes, cause I don't really like them ;(
05/5/05 21:09:04 raz: Can I ask how long you all have known each other?
05/5/05 21:09:05 Alcedok9: oh..
05/5/05 21:09:19 Jana_in_Indiana: not nearly long enough, LOL!
05/5/05 21:09:23 raz: lol
05/5/05 21:09:28 Alcedok9: some would say ... too long
05/5/05 21:09:33 Alcedok9: for me at least LOL
05/5/05 21:09:35 Shellie_NM: I like the episcia that havew the really pink leaves
05/5/05 21:09:54 sherry__(Mo): Same here Shellie
05/5/05 21:10:00 Alcedok9: I have learned so much this hour...
05/5/05 21:10:01 Jana_in_Indiana: now I know why Pat Hancock has that one sitting in the middle of her plant room, LOL
05/5/05 21:10:32 Jana_in_Indiana: epicias are the canary in the mine for AV's, thrips & INSV
05/5/05 21:10:40 Jana_in_Indiana: I think Carol said that
05/5/05 21:10:50 Shellie_NM: unfortunately most of the pink epecsias have a flower that is reed or red-orange and doesn't go well with the pink leaves/
05/5/05 21:11:37 Jana_in_Indiana: as long as mine do their job & stay small, I don't care what they look link, :*
05/5/05 21:11:38 Carol_SK: if Pat has only one, would we need a whole lot or might a few be enough
05/5/05 21:11:41 Shellie_NM: it would really help if I could type
05/5/05 21:11:45 raz: I would like to thank you all for making me feel welcome tonight do you chat every thurs?
05/5/05 21:12:06 Jana_in_Indiana: every Sun, Tues, Wed & Thurs!
05/5/05 21:12:11 sherry__(Mo): Sun, Tues, Wed, Thur
05/5/05 21:12:14 Alcedok9: Raz, there is also a Tuesay begginners that I like
05/5/05 21:12:15 TonyC: Sun., Tues, Wed, And Thurs
05/5/05 21:12:21 Jana_in_Indiana: be sure to come back raz!
05/5/05 21:12:22 sherry__(Mo): LOL
05/5/05 21:12:34 Alcedok9: a friendly bunch of folks
05/5/05 21:12:38 raz: I have to get up at 4:30 in the morn so its off to bed for me
05/5/05 21:12:38 TonyC: how do you guys type so fast?
05/5/05 21:12:48 Jana_in_Indiana: AV people are the BEST kindest people!
05/5/05 21:12:52 Shellie_NM: nite Raz
05/5/05 21:12:55 Alcedok9: Raz... welcome and hope to see you again
05/5/05 21:13:01 Jana_in_Indiana: coffee Tony!  LOL!
05/5/05 21:13:02 Carol_SK: nite Raz
05/5/05 21:13:05 raz: you can count on it
05/5/05 21:13:12 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Raz!
05/5/05 21:13:14 raz: coffie lol lol
05/5/05 21:13:34 raz: opps wheres the spell check when ya need it?
05/5/05 21:13:43 raz: nite folks
05/5/05 21:13:48 sherry__(Mo): Nite Raz!!
05/5/05 21:13:59 raz Logs Out
05/5/05 21:13:59 Jana_in_Indiana: don't think this has spell check, at least I can't find it
05/5/05 21:14:10 Alcedok9: I dont see one
05/5/05 21:14:15 Carol_SK: it would be interesting if it did
05/5/05 21:14:16 Alcedok9: but the spelling cops are off duty
05/5/05 21:14:27 Jana_in_Indiana: I do have Georgene on the list to do a guest speaker chat on INSV
05/5/05 21:14:27 Shellie_NM: that would be nice, but it would stop the fast responses
05/5/05 21:14:47 sherry__(Mo): Tony, I can only type-one finger at atime and still can't get things spelled right!
05/5/05 21:14:49 Carol_SK: then Tony could catch up
05/5/05 21:14:49 Jana_in_Indiana: she wrote the article on INSV that's in AVCM
05/5/05 21:14:51 Jana_in_Indiana: AVM
05/5/05 21:15:09 Carol_SK: has the new AVM come out???
05/5/05 21:15:29 Jana_in_Indiana: I have my May/June
05/5/05 21:15:50 Jana_in_Indiana: but yours comes by hamster wagon trail, remember?
05/5/05 21:15:53 Carol_SK: I have the January/February how many more are there
05/5/05 21:16:12 Carol_SK: so M/J is the next one coming?
05/5/05 21:16:17 Alcedok9: Got Walts website bookmarked
05/5/05 21:16:17 Jana_in_Indiana: May/June is next
05/5/05 21:16:17 sherry__(Mo): Every 2 months Carol
05/5/05 21:16:32 Jana_in_Indiana: heck, I didn't even see the link!
05/5/05 21:16:40 Carol_SK: oh, so it should be here any time now
05/5/05 21:16:47 TonyC: should be March/April in there someplace
05/5/05 21:16:48 Jana_in_Indiana: yup
05/5/05 21:16:59 Carol_SK: LOL J ana
05/5/05 21:16:59 Alcedok9 Logs Out
05/5/05 21:17:03 Jana_in_Indiana: no, skip March/April
05/5/05 21:17:25 Alcedok9 Logs in [63.18.104.219]
05/5/05 21:17:27 Carol_SK: so that makes it every 4 months
05/5/05 21:17:29 Jana_in_Indiana: maybe it's on VR?
05/5/05 21:17:34 Alcedok9: fast trip LOL
05/5/05 21:17:39 Carol_SK: wb Chris
05/5/05 21:17:39 Alcedok9: hang on..
05/5/05 21:18:01 Jana_in_Indiana: it says we get 6 issues per year, so Tony is right!
05/5/05 21:18:16 Carol_SK: I don't remember getting an AVSA card?  did we get one?
05/5/05 21:18:22 Alcedok9: ahhh it wont let me copy and paste in here
05/5/05 21:18:30 Jana_in_Indiana: should have been a March/April in there somewhere!
05/5/05 21:18:40 Jana_in_Indiana: use the keyboard Chris
05/5/05 21:18:52 Jana_in_Indiana: control + v pastes
05/5/05 21:19:00 TonyC: membership card is on the label
05/5/05 21:19:01 Carol_SK: so I wonder where mine is, you say you guys are on to May/June?
05/5/05 21:19:02 Jana_in_Indiana: copy as usual
05/5/05 21:19:30 Jana_in_Indiana: contact AVSA, yours went to the north pole I'll bet!
05/5/05 21:19:32 Storm Logs in [68.158.175.236]
05/5/05 21:19:40 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Storm!
05/5/05 21:19:41 TonyC: call or e-amil them and ask for a copy to be sent
05/5/05 21:19:42 Shellie_NM: hi Storm
05/5/05 21:19:49 Carol_SK: oh, my I wonder if I still have it, I did not think to look on the label
05/5/05 21:19:58 sherry__(Mo): Hi Storm
05/5/05 21:19:58 Jana_in_Indiana: name & state please Storm?
05/5/05 21:20:02 Storm: Hi all...wasn't sure this was still going on
05/5/05 21:20:04 TonyC: hi Storm
05/5/05 21:20:08 Storm: Lynn Bryant, Ball Ground, GA
05/5/05 21:20:14 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks!
05/5/05 21:20:27 Alcedok9: http://pws.cablespeed.com/mrwalt
05/5/05 21:20:41 Alcedok9: must have done something wrong
05/5/05 21:20:45 Jana_in_Indiana: we're running late tonight, guess we got the gift of gab!
05/5/05 21:21:26 Jana_in_Indiana: :p
05/5/05 21:21:42 Jana_in_Indiana: I have a question
05/5/05 21:21:42 Storm: What's the topic for this evening?  Anything?  Everything?
05/5/05 21:21:54 Jana_in_Indiana: that's right Lynn!
05/5/05 21:22:20 Alcedok9: http;//pws.cablespeed.com/~mrwalt
05/5/05 21:22:27 Alcedok9: well I tried LOL
05/5/05 21:22:34 Alcedok9: oh I see the problem... duh
05/5/05 21:23:05 Storm: I took pictures tonight of my NOIDs...three of them are in bloom!
05/5/05 21:23:10 Alcedok9: http://pws.cablespeed.com/~mrwalt
05/5/05 21:23:17 Storm Logs Out
05/5/05 21:23:20 sherry__(Mo): What's the question Jana?
05/5/05 21:23:23 Storm Logs in [68.158.175.236]
05/5/05 21:23:33 Jane_CA Logs in [69.4.139.196]
05/5/05 21:23:37 Jana_in_Indiana: do you think the world will come to an end if I post the bingo picks in the evening?
05/5/05 21:23:41 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Jane!
05/5/05 21:23:46 Storm: Whoops....I guess I know what THAT button does now.  :)
05/5/05 21:23:46 TonyC: hi Jane
05/5/05 21:23:51 Jane_CA: Hi all
05/5/05 21:23:53 Alcedok9: hey the last one works.. quick get it
05/5/05 21:23:55 Shellie_NM: Hi Jane
05/5/05 21:24:00 sherry__(Mo): Hi Jane
05/5/05 21:24:18 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm afraidI'll get 200 'where's the bingo pick' posts
05/5/05 21:24:21 Alcedok9: Jana why would it matter, morning or night same'
05/5/05 21:24:21 sherry__(Mo): Do what works best for you Jana
05/5/05 21:24:22 Storm: Noooo!  Post 'em!!  (Hee)
05/5/05 21:24:24 Jane_CA: Jana, it doesn't matter to me when the bingo picks are posted
05/5/05 21:24:43 Alcedok9: okay.. so tomorrow you post... bingo picks will be done at night
05/5/05 21:24:55 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, if someone complains, I'll tell them to blame y'all!
05/5/05 21:25:02 Storm: I've only got 2 or 6  :(
05/5/05 21:25:02 sherry__(Mo): I'm going to give everyone your phone number Jana-lol just kidding
05/5/05 21:25:03 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks!
05/5/05 21:25:06 Carol_SK: I understood they must be 24 hours apart, but I did not notice any indication of time of day
05/5/05 21:25:22 Jane_CA: Most will just wonder where the picks are in the morning
05/5/05 21:25:25 Jana_in_Indiana: it's already on the internet anyway, so go ahead!
05/5/05 21:25:38 sherry__(Mo): Duh, I don't know if I have your phone number
05/5/05 21:25:44 Alcedok9: Tell them if they complain,, they have to get 16 right
05/5/05 21:25:47 TonyC: is there something in the rules that says how the first winner is picked (time wise)
05/5/05 21:25:56 Jana_in_Indiana: you should have it on caller ID Sherry!
05/5/05 21:26:10 sherry__(Mo): That's right! Thanks
05/5/05 21:26:17 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm not sure Tony
05/5/05 21:26:25 Storm: oh oh oh....tomorrow is the show/sale in Decatur, GA...I've taken the day off!
05/5/05 21:26:36 sherry__(Mo): Great Storm!!!
05/5/05 21:26:39 Storm: Not for that specifically, but hey, if it's there, I've gotta go!
05/5/05 21:26:48 Jana_in_Indiana: look out, Lynn is on a mission!
05/5/05 21:26:58 sherry__(Mo): Take bunches of money!!
05/5/05 21:27:11 Storm: I'm taking my Grammy.  She said, "Now don't go getting all tempted and buying loads of violets tomorrow"
05/5/05 21:27:18 Alcedok9: On the VVV bingo I have 4.. on the VR I hav2
05/5/05 21:27:22 Storm: LOLOL  - Really, now....let's be serious!
05/5/05 21:27:26 Jana_in_Indiana: Lynn, take your camera so you can get photos of any that are in bloom that you buy
05/5/05 21:27:36 Storm: Oh, ok...GREAT idea!
05/5/05 21:27:37 Jana_in_Indiana: then disbud everything in the parking lot
05/5/05 21:27:39 sherry__(Mo): She'll love it-it's sweet of you to take her
05/5/05 21:27:49 Storm: boooo..really?
05/5/05 21:27:55 Alcedok9: yes..
05/5/05 21:28:00 Storm: she should...she's 92 and gets along pretty good
05/5/05 21:28:11 Jana_in_Indiana: then isolate everything you bring home
05/5/05 21:28:13 Alcedok9: you dont want any little free loaders coming home with you
05/5/05 21:28:15 Storm: So I don't bring home any critters?
05/5/05 21:28:19 sherry__(Mo): You don't want to take thrips home with you
05/5/05 21:28:32 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, I'm very serious, or you'll most probably bring home thrips
05/5/05 21:28:40 Storm: No.  I don't.  I've got those tiny little flies on my mini's all of a sudden.
05/5/05 21:28:49 Jane_CA: The show I went to only had plantlets, no blooms
05/5/05 21:28:50 Storm: The ones I repotted :(
05/5/05 21:29:08 sherry__(Mo): Really Jane?!
05/5/05 21:29:12 Jane_CA: Yes
05/5/05 21:29:13 Jana_in_Indiana: get some Knock Out Gnats from Garden's Alive, worked  for me
05/5/05 21:29:18 Storm: Do I need to do anything with the ones that are not blooming?
05/5/05 21:29:27 sherry__(Mo): Isolate
05/5/05 21:29:33 Carol_SK: give 'em a good talking to
05/5/05 21:29:33 Storm: We don't have a Gardens Alive
05/5/05 21:29:45 Storm: Home Depot/
05/5/05 21:29:45 Jane_CA: Storm I isolated mine, they were ok
05/5/05 21:30:06 TonyC: Gardens Alive - mail order
05/5/05 21:30:08 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Lynn, isolate them all after you disbud, till you're sure they don't have mites, soil mealy bugs, etc
05/5/05 21:30:11 Carol_SK: well, if I am going to get any seeds planted tonight, I had best be running
05/5/05 21:30:14 Storm: oh, excellent...thank you.
05/5/05 21:30:27 sherry__(Mo): Take care Carol!
05/5/05 21:30:28 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Carol!
05/5/05 21:30:28 Jane_CA: Bye Carol
05/5/05 21:30:32 Storm: BFN!
05/5/05 21:30:35 TonyC: nite Carol
05/5/05 21:30:40 Carol_SK: good luck on those bugs
05/5/05 21:30:44 Carol_SK: nite all
05/5/05 21:30:45 Jana_in_Indiana: isolate for at least 3 months
05/5/05 21:30:53 Carol_SK Logs Out
05/5/05 21:31:24 Storm: oh noooo...3 months?  Yikes!  Ok, I'll find a room with no AV's in it now and put them in there.  Or maybe I'll bring them to work with me.
05/5/05 21:31:29 Alcedok9: maybe I need to get a shelf for the other room for my isolation booth?
05/5/05 21:31:39 Jana_in_Indiana: that way if you do bring home bugs, they'll only be in the new ones, not everything
05/5/05 21:31:49 Storm: ahhhh...makes sense.
05/5/05 21:31:50 Alcedok9: actually I could put one in the guest room.. upstairs?
05/5/05 21:32:06 Jana_in_Indiana: if at home, cover & dome & tape closed, or bag them in zip loc baggies
05/5/05 21:32:32 Jana_in_Indiana: good idea Chris
05/5/05 21:32:33 Alcedok9: I used a gallon zip lock and it worked good for my larger plant
05/5/05 21:32:38 Storm: I got the now infamous "mini palm tree" from this same show 2 years ago.
05/5/05 21:32:52 Alcedok9: Storm I love the palm tree..
05/5/05 21:32:52 Jana_in_Indiana: also make 2 gallon zip loc freezer bags
05/5/05 21:33:00 Storm: I'm too scared to fix the poor dear, though I have read the instructions.
05/5/05 21:33:10 Alcedok9: wow never have seen the 2 gal ones
05/5/05 21:33:12 Storm: LOL...I have to laugh...It's really pathetic.
05/5/05 21:33:23 Alcedok9: Storm just be brave and repot the poor thing
05/5/05 21:33:30 Storm: I know, I know!!!  LOLOL
05/5/05 21:33:40 Storm: I should but I don't want to lose it
05/5/05 21:33:55 Jana_in_Indiana: Lynn, get a tall plastic dring cup, taller than the pot, set the plant into it & add soil up around the long neck & let it send out roots
05/5/05 21:33:59 Alcedok9: or... get some fake leaves off an artificial  violet ...
05/5/05 21:34:01 Storm: Did it make you laugh when you saw it? :)
05/5/05 21:34:15 Storm: LOL!
05/5/05 21:34:29 Jana_in_Indiana: once it has roots on the long neck, then slice off part of the lower portion
05/5/05 21:34:46 Shellie_NM: Well everyone, my sciatica is really acting up.  I spend 8 hours a day at work at a computer and then I come home and get on the computer for fun and chat.  I think I need to go lay down. Good Nite all
05/5/05 21:35:01 Storm: I really, really do have some good pics of some nice healthy NOIDS.  I'll have to post those now to get myself disassociated with the Mini Palm
05/5/05 21:35:05 Alcedok9: night Shellie.. gentle thoughts
05/5/05 21:35:10 Jane_CA: Nite Shellie
05/5/05 21:35:11 Jana_in_Indiana: be sure to make holes in the tall cup for drainage & cover or bag the cup for a week or 2
05/5/05 21:35:16 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite shellie
05/5/05 21:35:18 Storm: BFN!
05/5/05 21:35:19 TonyC: nite Shellie
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05/5/05 21:35:43 Storm: And Jana, I can do this without snipping it off?
05/5/05 21:35:49 Jana_in_Indiana: right
05/5/05 21:35:50 violetbecca: hello
05/5/05 21:35:52 Storm: That's the part I'm afraid of
05/5/05 21:35:55 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Becca!
05/5/05 21:35:58 Jane_CA: Hi Becca
05/5/05 21:35:59 Alcedok9: so you will have the plants pot inside the glass.. and then fill it will soil?
05/5/05 21:36:05 violetbecca: i'm new here
05/5/05 21:36:21 Jane_CA: First time Becca?
05/5/05 21:36:25 violetbecca: yeah
05/5/05 21:36:34 Alcedok9: HI Becca... I like your name
05/5/05 21:36:34 Jane_CA: Just dive right in
05/5/05 21:36:42 violetbecca: thanks
05/5/05 21:36:51 sherry__(Mo): Glad you've joined us Becca
05/5/05 21:36:58 Jana_in_Indiana: no, remove from the pot, then set rootball ionto the plastic cup
05/5/05 21:37:03 Alcedok9: Becca... how many violets are you slave too?
05/5/05 21:37:07 Storm: Jana, do I take the Mini Palm (MP) out of the pot it's in and sit it down inside the tall cup?
05/5/05 21:37:12 violetbecca: 6  right now
05/5/05 21:37:19 violetbecca: there are my babies
05/5/05 21:37:20 Jana_in_Indiana: yes
05/5/05 21:37:37 Storm: Ok, I'm more comfortable with that.
05/5/05 21:37:37 Jana_in_Indiana: make holes in the cup for drainage
05/5/05 21:37:39 violetbecca: i notice that you are from indiana jana
05/5/05 21:37:46 violetbecca: ?
05/5/05 21:37:48 Storm: And dirt up around the neck?
05/5/05 21:37:49 Jane_CA: Becca, soon enough you will have more
05/5/05 21:37:52 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, NE of Indianapolis
05/5/05 21:38:01 violetbecca: i live in lafayette
05/5/05 21:38:06 violetbecca: :)
05/5/05 21:38:32 Jana_in_Indiana: so does Dogmom cheryl, & I'm in Lafayette many time a month, my daughter is at Purdue!
05/5/05 21:38:36 violetbecca: yes i am worried about lighting
05/5/05 21:38:48 Storm: BRB...gotta go check on Grammy
05/5/05 21:38:50 violetbecca: oh that is so nice
05/5/05 21:39:01 Alcedok9: you are neighbors
05/5/05 21:39:07 violetbecca: yes
05/5/05 21:39:32 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Lynn, place the soil up as high as you can get it without covering the leaves, then water, set on papers to drain for at least an hour & bag it for a week or 2
05/5/05 21:39:33 TonyC: see you all next week
05/5/05 21:39:43 sherry__(Mo): Take care Tony!!
05/5/05 21:39:46 Jane_CA: Bye Tony
05/5/05 21:39:47 violetbecca: so how many times do you meet here?
05/5/05 21:39:52 TonyC Logs Out
05/5/05 21:39:56 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite tony!
05/5/05 21:40:03 sherry__(Mo): Sun, Tues, Wed, Thur
05/5/05 21:40:07 Jana_in_Indiana: every Sun, Tues, Wed, Thurs
05/5/05 21:40:12 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
05/5/05 21:40:15 violetbecca: cool what time
05/5/05 21:40:30 Jana_in_Indiana: 1 hour & 40 minutes ago!  LOL
05/5/05 21:40:37 sherry__(Mo): an hour and 40 minutes ago-LOL
05/5/05 21:40:44 sherry__(Mo): LOL Jana!!
05/5/05 21:40:48 Jana_in_Indiana: beat you Sherry!
05/5/05 21:40:55 Jane_CA: Echos!!!
05/5/05 21:40:57 Storm: Ok, got it.  I can do that!
05/5/05 21:41:01 sherry__(Mo): You type faster than I do!!
05/5/05 21:41:04 Jana_in_Indiana: :P
05/5/05 21:41:10 sherry__(Mo): LOL
05/5/05 21:41:12 Storm: Thanks, Jana.  I'll probably do that this w/e.
05/5/05 21:41:22 Jana_in_Indiana: not really!  the 1 saved me some time, LOL
05/5/05 21:41:33 sherry__(Mo): LOL
05/5/05 21:41:36 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, it'll be simple, you'll see!
05/5/05 21:41:49 Storm: I'll post pics when I'm finished with it.
05/5/05 21:41:52 sherry__(Mo): you think faster yhan I do also!
05/5/05 21:42:04 Storm: I'll have to get the cup tomorrow.
05/5/05 21:42:07 Jana_in_Indiana: then in a month or so, you can remove it, slice off some of the bottom & put it in a pot
05/5/05 21:42:19 Storm: will do!
05/5/05 21:42:31 violetbecca: i have a qustion  i am worried about my av's getting enough light  i hae been told that just a ordianry lamp is fine is that true
05/5/05 21:42:54 Jana_in_Indiana: but when you get a sucker, you'll have to bite the bullet & do the hard part, no easy way around them, LOL
05/5/05 21:43:09 Jana_in_Indiana: how many AV's?
05/5/05 21:43:13 sherry__(Mo): I would think an ordinary light would put out too much heat
05/5/05 21:43:35 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, Sherry is right, too much heat, not enough light
05/5/05 21:43:45 Alcedok9: I had a av on my counter in the kennel that just had a desk light on all day and it acutally did okay
05/5/05 21:44:01 sherry__(Mo): Can you get one of those shop lights Becca?
05/5/05 21:44:07 violetbecca: ok i could put a grow light in the light i have them under will that be ok
05/5/05 21:45:04 Jana_in_Indiana: get one of the flourescent screw in types
05/5/05 21:45:26 Alcedok9: Jana.. thats what I was thinking but didnt know how to spell Flourescent..
05/5/05 21:45:36 Alcedok9: hmmm did we do it right?
05/5/05 21:45:42 Jana_in_Indiana: me neither, just took a stab at it, LOL
05/5/05 21:45:42 violetbecca: lol
05/5/05 21:45:52 violetbecca: thanks i can do that
05/5/05 21:46:00 Alcedok9: okay Becca get one of "THOSE" bulbs
05/5/05 21:46:05 violetbecca: ok
05/5/05 21:46:20 Jana_in_Indiana: they still give off some heat, but not nearly as much
05/5/05 21:46:28 Alcedok9: pssst really wished I would have worked harder on those spelling lists
05/5/05 21:46:36 violetbecca: do u think they will give off the same amount of light
05/5/05 21:46:43 violetbecca: lol
05/5/05 21:46:53 Jana_in_Indiana: probably more
05/5/05 21:47:04 Alcedok9: maybe it would be better if you put the plant a few inches lower away from the bulb
05/5/05 21:47:17 Alcedok9: I was thinking about the extra heat
05/5/05 21:47:33 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, a newer blub will be brighter, don't want to burn the leaves
05/5/05 21:47:37 sherry__(Mo): And check out the Share The Joy program when you've been with VR long enough
05/5/05 21:47:49 Jane_CA: Gotta go, phone.....see ya Sunday
05/5/05 21:47:56 violetbecca: ok kewl  and do u think it would  be ok to leave it.  The lamp that they are under is on for at least 8 hourse or more
05/5/05 21:47:57 Jana_in_Indiana: where in Laf are you Becca?
05/5/05 21:47:59 Alcedok9: night Jane
05/5/05 21:48:02 Jane_CA Logs Out
05/5/05 21:48:02 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Jane
05/5/05 21:49:02 Alcedok9: Handsome has the shelf together and light installed. but it looks too high to me.. but he put it 18 in ... might look different after I get plants on it
05/5/05 21:49:11 violetbecca: over my the columbian park
05/5/05 21:49:16 violetbecca: ooops by
05/5/05 21:49:26 Jana_in_Indiana: near the hospital?
05/5/05 21:49:47 violetbecca: yeah like a 4 blocks
05/5/05 21:49:52 Jana_in_Indiana: Chris, will you wick or matt water?  That'll raise them up
05/5/05 21:50:06 Jana_in_Indiana: go right by there, regularily!
05/5/05 21:50:07 Alcedok9: right now I bottom water them by hand
05/5/05 21:50:24 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
05/5/05 21:50:25 violetbecca: do u know where the park side deli is
05/5/05 21:50:29 Alcedok9: but I only have a handlful.. bet I do something different when I get a few more
05/5/05 21:50:37 Jana_in_Indiana: not really
05/5/05 21:50:46 Jana_in_Indiana: yes you will chris
05/5/05 21:51:07 Jana_in_Indiana: can always set one tray upside down & set the plant tray on it
05/5/05 21:51:23 violetbecca: there are two streets that go by the park from the hospital  the far street is the street it is on it is really good eats you should try it next time
05/5/05 21:51:35 Alcedok9: why am I like this?? cant be happy with a little violet sitting over the sink.. oh no.. I have to get one of each color...
05/5/05 21:52:07 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, it's called addiction to AV's!
05/5/05 21:52:21 violetbecca: i just bought tow more tonight at the plant lady on 38  they just screamed help us
05/5/05 21:52:21 Alcedok9: they dont have a vaccine for it yet do they?
05/5/05 21:52:46 Jana_in_Indiana: plant lady?????  in Lafayette?
05/5/05 21:52:47 sherry__(Mo): LOL
05/5/05 21:52:51 violetbecca: yah
05/5/05 21:52:52 Alcedok9: oh Becca do you do that too? there are these poor little violets at walmart that are driving me nuts
05/5/05 21:52:59 Jana_in_Indiana: is that the greenhoues place?
05/5/05 21:53:09 Storm: Oh, and that poem???  Doesn't it just KILL you?  LOL
05/5/05 21:53:18 violetbecca: no not bennets  the one that is down form them
05/5/05 21:53:20 Storm: I want to "help" them all.
05/5/05 21:53:25 Jana_in_Indiana: BRB
05/5/05 21:53:26 violetbecca: yeah me two
05/5/05 21:53:27 Alcedok9: Storm LOL that is me
05/5/05 21:53:43 Storm: If they only knew they, too, could be a Mini Palm...they'd run for hte hills!  LOL
05/5/05 21:54:02 violetbecca: pardon me for sying this the one that next to the topless bar
05/5/05 21:54:03 Storm: "oh no, ma'am, just leave me HERE!"  Hee hee
05/5/05 21:54:07 Alcedok9: I said REALLY loud in Walmart.. cant someone water these poor things.. My  husband was dragging me away by my shirt
05/5/05 21:54:38 Storm: Ha Ha! I do that too....about the beta fish they have in the cups stacked up 3-4 deep too
05/5/05 21:54:48 Storm: GRRRRR......
05/5/05 21:55:07 Alcedok9: oh he KNOWS better then to take me into a pet store that sells puppies.. I could get arrested in there
05/5/05 21:55:32 Storm: Oh, TELL me about it!  I'm heavily into rescue myself.  www.minpinrescue.org
05/5/05 21:55:55 Alcedok9: I told him I was going to bring in my thermal glass with water and water them,, he rolled his eyes,, he seems to do that alot lately
05/5/05 21:55:57 violetbecca: that is where i bought my first 4 av's at walmart just last weekend that how bad i have this av virus my mom jsut introduced me to them last weekend
05/5/05 21:56:24 Alcedok9: I've done REGAP and breed rescues for years
05/5/05 21:56:24 Storm: Giggle....you've got it bad!
05/5/05 21:56:42 violetbecca: :p
05/5/05 21:56:53 Storm: oh, oh, oh....very cool.  Which breed?  I'm not familiar with REGAP.
05/5/05 21:56:54 violetbecca: yeah but its a good virus
05/5/05 21:57:01 Storm: :)
05/5/05 21:57:17 Alcedok9: Regap is REtired greyhounds as pets
05/5/05 21:57:29 Alcedok9: Becca what kind of virus
05/5/05 21:57:53 Alcedok9: oh wait I get it..
05/5/05 21:57:58 sherry__(Mo): I need to get busy around here-have a nice weekend everyone!!
05/5/05 21:58:07 Alcedok9: your plants are fine,, you are the touched one?
05/5/05 21:58:14 Alcedok9: you too Sherry
05/5/05 21:58:20 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite sherry
05/5/05 21:58:24 sherry__(Mo): :D
05/5/05 21:58:26 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry, on the phone
05/5/05 21:58:28 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out
05/5/05 21:58:30 violetbecca: bye sherry
05/5/05 21:58:40 violetbecca: not fast enough
05/5/05 21:58:53 Storm: that's fantastic!
05/5/05 21:59:07 Storm: MinPins and Greyhounds don't mix too well, but I do love them both
05/5/05 21:59:37 Alcedok9: I also had basenjis,, pwds and I now have aussies
05/5/05 21:59:47 Alcedok9: here I go again.. off topic.. sorry
05/5/05 21:59:48 Storm: Well, ladies....off to dream of all the AV's I'm going to find tomorrow at the show/sale....yippeee!
05/5/05 21:59:57 Storm: Oh, do you do Agility with them too?
05/5/05 21:59:58 Alcedok9: storm.. have a good time
05/5/05 22:00:09 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Storm!
05/5/05 22:00:13 violetbecca: bye
05/5/05 22:00:16 Alcedok9: no.. I hurt my knee.. but we do herding and show
05/5/05 22:00:21 violetbecca: storm
05/5/05 22:00:38 Storm: boo...I teach agility and also compete....www.siriusdogagility.com
05/5/05 22:00:45 Storm: www.siriusdogagility.com
05/5/05 22:00:57 Storm: I'm under "Instructors"...Lynn Bryant
05/5/05 22:01:10 Storm: anyways, ok, I'm off now...good night all, I really enjoyed talking with everyone
05/5/05 22:01:18 Storm Logs Out
05/5/05 22:01:45 Alcedok9: we could have a whole group of av and dog people LOL
05/5/05 22:02:22 Alcedok9: well I am calling it a night.. thanks for all the good info Jana.. take care Becca
05/5/05 22:02:24 Alcedok9: night
05/5/05 22:02:32 violetbecca: the av's i bought today were over populated with leaves and very little bloms
05/5/05 22:02:33 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Chris!
05/5/05 22:02:35 violetbecca: night
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