May 4, 200505/3/05 19:17:27 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
05/3/05 19:17:44 Clare_KS Logs Out
05/3/05 19:42:28 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.165.137.205]
05/3/05 19:42:43 Jana_in_Indiana: oops
05/3/05 19:42:59 Jana_in_Indiana: lol
05/3/05 19:43:09 Jana_in_Indiana: lo
05/3/05 19:52:18 Alcedok9 Logs in [63.18.37.210]
05/3/05 19:52:25 Alcedok9: Hi
05/3/05 19:52:29 paula0103 Logs in [12.223.195.199]
05/3/05 19:52:36 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Chris & Paula
05/3/05 19:52:47 paula0103: Hi!
05/3/05 19:52:49 Alcedok9: How are you tonight?
05/3/05 19:53:08 paula0103: This is my first chat so I'm excited
05/3/05 19:53:28 Jana_in_Indiana: Paula, welcome to your first chat!  We're glad you came!
05/3/05 19:53:39 paula0103: Thanks!!
05/3/05 19:53:46 Alcedok9: hmm..
05/3/05 19:54:02 Jana_in_Indiana: how long have you been a member of VR ?
05/3/05 19:54:15 Jana_in_Indiana: what's wrong Chris?
05/3/05 19:54:17 paula0103: About a week
05/3/05 19:54:32 Jana_in_Indiana: how many AV's do you have?
05/3/05 19:54:50 Alcedok9: most of what I type isnt showing up
05/3/05 19:55:02 Jana_in_Indiana: don't tell me I've messed up your name too Alc?
05/3/05 19:55:09 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that's not good!
05/3/05 19:55:33 paula0103: I only have 7 AVs but that's a long story
05/3/05 19:55:37 Jana_in_Indiana: try X'ing off the window & returning
05/3/05 19:55:38 Alcedok9 Disconnects
05/3/05 19:55:48 Alcedok9 Logs in [63.18.37.210]
05/3/05 19:55:50 Jana_in_Indiana: named or noids?
05/3/05 19:56:02 Jana_in_Indiana: I hope it's better now Chris
05/3/05 19:56:11 paula0103: I don't know, I have alot to learn
05/3/05 19:56:15 Jana_in_Indiana: noid = No ID
05/3/05 19:56:28 Alcedok9: darn
05/3/05 19:56:31 paula0103: Oh, that's probably what I have
05/3/05 19:56:50 paula0103: Jana, where in Indiana do you live?
05/3/05 19:56:58 Jana_in_Indiana: if it is named, it's on a tag or the pot, usually we all start with store AV, which are mostly noids, but still beautiful as can be!
05/3/05 19:57:07 Alcedok9: well  that showed up LOL
05/3/05 19:57:22 Jana_in_Indiana: NE side of Indy, actually Lawrence/ Castleton, you from Lebanon, right?
05/3/05 19:57:32 paula0103: Yes
05/3/05 19:57:49 Jana_in_Indiana: I remembered reading that in your post
05/3/05 19:58:15 Jana_in_Indiana: and it RARE that my memory serves me this well!   *)
05/3/05 19:58:30 Alcedok9: I have two noids that are really pretty, I dont tell them they have no family
05/3/05 19:58:39 paula0103: LOL
05/3/05 19:59:09 Alcedok9: It is taking 2 or 3 min for what ever I type to show up.. makes me keep my mouth shut which  can be a good thing
05/3/05 19:59:13 Jana_in_Indiana: they DO have a name, it's just missing, costs too much for growers to keep them named when selling them at discount stores
05/3/05 19:59:18 paula0103: Mine all came from Kroger
05/3/05 19:59:49 Alcedok9: Paula,, thats what I call mine.. King Sooper's Pretty Purple,, and King Soopers Pretty Pink
05/3/05 19:59:52 Jana_in_Indiana: Chris, sign off AOL, X off all screens & sign on again
05/3/05 20:00:02 Alcedok9: its working better Jana.. but thanks
05/3/05 20:00:04 Jana_in_Indiana: this has happened to me too, signing off fixed it
05/3/05 20:00:09 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
05/3/05 20:00:17 paula0103: I have ordered 2 off of Ebay and they are named but I haven't gotten them yet
05/3/05 20:00:25 Alcedok9: its been like this today.. everything I touch?
05/3/05 20:00:32 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry!
05/3/05 20:00:37 Alcedok9: LOL..
05/3/05 20:00:47 Jana_in_Indiana: be VERY careful with AV's on ebay
05/3/05 20:01:02 paula0103: oh?
05/3/05 20:01:26 Jana_in_Indiana: mosty every AV sold on e-bay can be ordered from legit vendors, at much less cost, less shipping & usually better quality!
05/3/05 20:01:34 Alcedok9: I just got through looking at Bluebird they have some nice plants
05/3/05 20:01:48 paula0103: Are they online?
05/3/05 20:01:50 Alcedok9: I cant believe the shipping they want on ebay
05/3/05 20:02:06 Jana_in_Indiana: usually charge double for shipping on ebay
05/3/05 20:02:08 Alcedok9: Bluebird shipping is actual cost, no handling, just postage
05/3/05 20:02:31 Alcedok9: and Violet Barn is like $12 for a med sized box..
05/3/05 20:02:33 Jana_in_Indiana: what's your e-mail Paula, I'll send a list of AV vendors & suppliers to keep you very busy looking
05/3/05 20:02:49 paula0103: medrep50@hotmail.com
05/3/05 20:02:53 Alcedok9: Ebay wants $6 for ONE plant
05/3/05 20:02:59 paula0103: Thanks!
05/3/05 20:03:57 Alcedok9: I can spend hours looking at web sites...
05/3/05 20:04:05 paula0103: Me too
05/3/05 20:04:21 millie_ca Logs in [66.214.118.130]
05/3/05 20:04:24 Jana_in_Indiana: I just sent it
05/3/05 20:04:28 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Millie!
05/3/05 20:04:31 paula0103: Thanks Jana
05/3/05 20:04:38 Walt_in_MD Logs in [24.35.119.251]
05/3/05 20:04:39 millie_ca: Good Evening all
05/3/05 20:04:40 Alcedok9: but I've decided that what I need to do is to set some leaves off my noid and practice before I spend alot on leaves
05/3/05 20:04:45 Alcedok9: HEY MILLIE!!!
05/3/05 20:04:50 Jana_in_Indiana: the link for Jeremy's doesn't work, but I haven't found a new one yet
05/3/05 20:04:55 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Walt!
05/3/05 20:05:03 Alcedok9: Hi Walt
05/3/05 20:05:04 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.166.159.186]
05/3/05 20:05:08 Jana_in_Indiana: good idea Alc!
05/3/05 20:05:11 Walt_in_MD: Greetings all
05/3/05 20:05:13 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sherry!
05/3/05 20:05:22 sherry__(Mo): Howdy!!
05/3/05 20:05:25 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
05/3/05 20:05:29 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Clare!
05/3/05 20:05:36 millie_ca: Howdy Sherry LOL
05/3/05 20:05:38 Alcedok9: Clare... good to see you again
05/3/05 20:05:41 Alcedok9: Hi Sherry
05/3/05 20:05:51 Clare_KS: Hellody :)
05/3/05 20:05:54 sherry__(Mo): Hi Clare
05/3/05 20:06:26 Clare_KS: I just got the most beautiful plants in the mail!
05/3/05 20:06:38 Alcedok9: Clare... good for you.. tell us
05/3/05 20:06:45 Clare_KS: I thought I was buying little starters, these are big, blooming plants.
05/3/05 20:06:48 millie_ca: from who Claire
05/3/05 20:06:48 sherry__(Mo): Tell us about them Clare!
05/3/05 20:06:49 Jana_in_Indiana: wonderful Clare!
05/3/05 20:06:58 Alcedok9: Clare where did you get them? and what did you get?
05/3/05 20:07:15 Clare_KS Logs Out
05/3/05 20:07:28 paula0103: Maybe it was a secret...
05/3/05 20:07:32 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
05/3/05 20:07:35 Alcedok9: she will be back
05/3/05 20:07:35 Clare_KS: ratz
05/3/05 20:07:35 millie_ca: Lost Clare I hope she makes it back
05/3/05 20:07:39 Jana_in_Indiana: WB Clare!
05/3/05 20:07:45 millie_ca: there she is
05/3/05 20:07:46 Alcedok9: okay spill it Clare
05/3/05 20:08:03 Clare_KS: well, first of all I will confess to doing a BAD THING :)
05/3/05 20:08:18 Alcedok9: tapping foot... okay...
05/3/05 20:08:26 Clare_KS: I bid on some AVs on eBay, the shipping is a lot less if you get a few...
05/3/05 20:08:27 sherry__(Mo): LOL-get the bad over with first huh?!
05/3/05 20:08:37 millie_ca: A bad thing never happens when ordering violets LOL
05/3/05 20:08:49 Clare_KS: but I only won one, so I wrote, could you hold it over so I can try again next week?
05/3/05 20:08:50 paula0103: They all just told me not to buy off Ebay!!
05/3/05 20:09:08 Clare_KS: well...the next week, I bid on everything, thinking, I'll get one or two more to add to my shipping.
05/3/05 20:09:09 sherry__(Mo): How true Millie-unless they arrive almost croaked!
05/3/05 20:09:15 Clare_KS: and of course, I got them ALL.
05/3/05 20:09:22 sherry__(Mo): How mant Clare??LOL
05/3/05 20:09:25 Alcedok9: oh no LOL
05/3/05 20:09:41 Clare_KS: Paula, I think if you're careful to only bid what they would cost other places, you're ok.
05/3/05 20:09:46 Alcedok9: shipping is terrible high for one plant
05/3/05 20:09:48 millie_ca: Yes Sherry but I have had good luck frome vendors
05/3/05 20:10:06 Clare_KS: do I really have to say how many???
05/3/05 20:10:10 Jana_in_Indiana: & please do tell us the final price, including shipping?
05/3/05 20:10:14 Alcedok9: Clare.. yes LOL
05/3/05 20:10:19 Clare_KS: oh lordy.
05/3/05 20:10:20 millie_ca: LOL
05/3/05 20:10:22 paula0103: Please!!
05/3/05 20:10:29 Alcedok9: its okay, you are among friends
05/3/05 20:10:29 Clare_KS: Ok, I got 8 and the total bill was $55.
05/3/05 20:10:31 Jana_in_Indiana: will be good to compare with on line vendors
05/3/05 20:10:36 paula0103: lol
05/3/05 20:10:40 sherry__(Mo): But sometimes people bid high on something they can get for 4 or 5 else where Paula
05/3/05 20:10:43 millie_ca: hey that is good
05/3/05 20:10:48 Clare_KS: it came with INSULATION, you know, like in the attic.
05/3/05 20:10:57 paula0103: That sounds wonderful
05/3/05 20:10:58 Walt_in_MD: I got 4 off ebay last week and should get them in a day or two. Have gotten two previous orders from the same vender and they were great.
05/3/05 20:11:05 Jana_in_Indiana: not too bad, $6.88 each incl. shipping
05/3/05 20:11:05 sherry__(Mo): Whaich ones did you get?!
05/3/05 20:11:12 Jana_in_Indiana: was it for plants or leaves?
05/3/05 20:11:13 Alcedok9: I think if you know the vendor its safer
05/3/05 20:11:14 Clare_KS: from blufford@msn.com
05/3/05 20:11:26 paula0103: Thats where I got mine
05/3/05 20:11:40 paula0103: I have 2 coming any day
05/3/05 20:11:59 Clare_KS: Jana, plants, all in full bloom
05/3/05 20:12:06 sherry__(Mo): which ones Paula?!
05/3/05 20:12:13 Alcedok9: so what did you get.. we want names LOL
05/3/05 20:12:17 millie_ca: IT'S SPRING WE ARE ALL GOING CRAZY AFTER THE LONG WINTER
05/3/05 20:12:18 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, then it does sound like you got a fair deal
05/3/05 20:12:18 sherry__(Mo): Great Clare!!
05/3/05 20:12:23 Clare_KS: Paula, maybe you got the ones I wanted first time around :)
05/3/05 20:12:45 paula0103: I was afraid you would ask.  I wanted 2 more but I lost the bids.  did you get Blackie bryant or Ozio
05/3/05 20:12:55 Jana_in_Indiana: you got that right Millie!  It was 29 this morning!
05/3/05 20:13:16 Clare_KS: Paula, no
05/3/05 20:13:23 millie_ca: STILL COLD THERE jANA? *0 HERE TODAY
05/3/05 20:13:33 paula0103: Good cause I would be mad at you!!!!!  lol
05/3/05 20:13:39 Clare_KS: I wanted Pretty Poison, but it went over my max.
05/3/05 20:13:47 Jana_in_Indiana: YES it's cold!  You just have to brag don't you, LOL!
05/3/05 20:13:58 millie_ca: tOLD THEM TO GET THE NEW AIR, hEAT SYSTEM IN IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OR FORGET IT TILL FALL
05/3/05 20:14:01 Clare_KS: I look first at Bluebird Greenhouse or Rob's to see what they sell for.
05/3/05 20:14:20 sherry__(Mo): Good thinking Clare
05/3/05 20:14:27 millie_ca: 80 TODAY
05/3/05 20:14:36 Jana_in_Indiana: remember there's a search engine that searches lots of vendors all at once
05/3/05 20:14:44 Clare_KS: I'm pretty good at eBay, don't get carried away too often :)
05/3/05 20:14:58 Clare_KS: Where is Del?
05/3/05 20:14:59 Jana_in_Indiana: http://home.earthlink.net/~sestes1373/avsearch.html
05/3/05 20:15:07 paula0103: I got Sonoma Witches Cauldron and Summer Carnival
05/3/05 20:15:09 Jana_in_Indiana: he's on, saw that he signed in
05/3/05 20:15:09 Clare_KS: Isn't that tonight?
05/3/05 20:15:40 millie_ca: he sometimes has troble getting in
05/3/05 20:15:41 Clare_KS: Thanks, Jana
05/3/05 20:15:54 Clare_KS: I get the days mixed up sometimes.
05/3/05 20:15:59 Carol_SK Logs in [142.165.188.63]
05/3/05 20:16:07 millie_ca: Hi Carol
05/3/05 20:16:12 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Carol!
05/3/05 20:16:12 sherry__(Mo): Hi Carol
05/3/05 20:16:17 Carol_SK: Hi Millie
05/3/05 20:16:20 Alcedok9: hi Carol
05/3/05 20:16:21 Carol_SK: Hi Jand
05/3/05 20:16:42 Carol_SK: oops
05/3/05 20:16:46 Walt_in_MD: I'll have to post a couple of tricks I have learned when bidding on ebay to the vr group
05/3/05 20:16:46 Carol_SK: Hi all
05/3/05 20:16:48 sherry__(Mo): The names are even neat Paula!
05/3/05 20:16:58 sherry__(Mo): Good Walt!
05/3/05 20:17:01 Clare_KS: Tell us, Walt
05/3/05 20:17:17 Walt_in_MD: I'll post it tomorrow
05/3/05 20:17:18 Jana_in_Indiana: Del can't get in!
05/3/05 20:17:26 paula0103: They are really pretty
05/3/05 20:17:43 paula0103: of course
05/3/05 20:17:47 millie_ca: why Jana?
05/3/05 20:17:59 sherry__(Mo): Darn Jana
05/3/05 20:17:59 Clare_KS: I got Cinnamon Ruffles, it's so dark it's almost black.
05/3/05 20:18:03 Jana_in_Indiana: don't know
05/3/05 20:18:14 sherry__(Mo): Neat Clare!!
05/3/05 20:18:16 millie_ca: I love the dark red's
05/3/05 20:18:18 paula0103: I saw that one Clare.  It is beautiful
05/3/05 20:18:21 Alcedok9: Clare... oh it sounds beautiful.. you lucky duck
05/3/05 20:19:02 Clare_KS: How big should the plant be before you cut leaves to share?
05/3/05 20:19:14 Clare_KS: Do you wait until it has a certain number of rows?
05/3/05 20:19:48 Alcedok9: I hope Del makes it in, I had problems tonight for awhile
05/3/05 20:19:55 millie_ca: It should be an adult plant and they are usually adulr in a year
05/3/05 20:20:07 Alcedok9: no teenagers having kids
05/3/05 20:20:14 Walt_in_MD: I know that Del was going to talk about the mix for potting leaves so I'll add my two cents  :p
05/3/05 20:20:16 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): Sherry are you going to the show/sale on the 14th?
05/3/05 20:20:26 Jana_in_Indiana: go for it Walt!
05/3/05 20:20:30 millie_ca: Go ahead Walt
05/3/05 20:20:36 Alcedok9: Walt please share with us novice nellies
05/3/05 20:20:43 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: I'm not sure-hoping I can!! Are you?
05/3/05 20:20:49 paula0103: yes, please
05/3/05 20:20:53 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): I'm planning on it.
05/3/05 20:21:11 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): Would love to meet you :) 
05/3/05 20:21:28 Alcedok9: can you start from the very beginning.. like.. you have a plant in front of you with leaves?
05/3/05 20:21:31 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: Great! Sue Hill was saying that one of the Kansas Clubs is having a sale this coming weekend-I can ask her where if you wanr.
05/3/05 20:21:41 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: I'd love to meet you too!!
05/3/05 20:22:00 Walt_in_MD: I like to do things the eash way, so I use the same mix for leaves as I do my plants. Potted up two trays of leaves on March 23 and the first mouse ears popped up yesterday.
05/3/05 20:22:01 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): I can't do anything this weekend, will have my grandson.
05/3/05 20:22:33 Carol_SK: wow that is quick
05/3/05 20:22:35 becky_co Logs in [209.142.190.14]
05/3/05 20:22:38 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: I joined the gessnarian club and their meeting is Saturday-darn it!!
05/3/05 20:22:48 Alcedok9: Hi Becky
05/3/05 20:22:49 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: How old is your grandson?
05/3/05 20:23:00 Walt_in_MD: Hi Becky
05/3/05 20:23:02 millie_ca: I think one of the problems with the new people is they do not realize how long it takes to produce baby's
05/3/05 20:23:04 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Becky!
05/3/05 20:23:07 sherry__(Mo): Hi Becky
05/3/05 20:23:14 millie_ca: Hi Becky
05/3/05 20:23:19 Walt_in_MD: yes but now I have to wait for the other 99
05/3/05 20:23:25 Jana_in_Indiana: I use the same mix for plants & leaves too Walt
05/3/05 20:23:31 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): almost 10 months
05/3/05 20:23:31 sherry__(Mo): LOL Walt
05/3/05 20:23:36 becky_co: Hi Alcedok9, walt, millie, jana, sherry, carol, clare & paula
05/3/05 20:23:46 paula0103: Hi Becky
05/3/05 20:23:46 Carol_SK: Hi Becky
05/3/05 20:23:46 Jana_in_Indiana: & babies seem to come quicker & get big faster!
05/3/05 20:23:47 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): He and his mom have been gone for 10 days, 
05/3/05 20:23:52 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): I'm dying to see him!!
05/3/05 20:24:07 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: I bet!! They are adorable at that age!!
05/3/05 20:24:23 paula0103: Walt I have a stupid question
05/3/05 20:24:25 becky_co: I've had babies anywhere from 8 to 14 weeks so far, and still waiting on a few others lol
05/3/05 20:24:29 millie_ca: Have any of you noticed that mini and trailer leaves produce faster?
05/3/05 20:24:44 TonyC Logs in [207.43.75.34]
05/3/05 20:24:44 paula0103: What are you going to do with 100 starts?
05/3/05 20:24:49 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tony!
05/3/05 20:24:55 becky_co: Hi Tony
05/3/05 20:25:16 TonyC: Hi to a full house
05/3/05 20:25:19 Jana_in_Indiana: I *think* so Millie, but I never kept records, this time & know exactly where everything was put down, I'll let you know
05/3/05 20:25:28 becky_co: I've noticed with mini's, but just set my first trailers about 6 weeks ago, so can't say on those
05/3/05 20:25:30 Walt_in_MD: As I have been away from av's for a while I bought a mix for Denver, but found I had to add a little more perlite to it as it was not light enough for me.
05/3/05 20:25:31 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: I told them at Unpredictables that I didn't know if I'd be able to help out and they already have plenty of volunteers for everything. I dlon't know if I could find it by mysdelf!
05/3/05 20:25:58 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tony!
05/3/05 20:26:01 Carol_SK: millie some of mine are faster
05/3/05 20:26:13 Alcedok9: So you use a commerial av potting soil? like Miracle grow and "doctor" it up?
05/3/05 20:26:19 sherry__(Mo): I have to add more to mine too Walt
05/3/05 20:26:25 Carol_SK: and my trailer is a semi I think and it was faster too
05/3/05 20:26:27 becky_co: I would venture to guess that none of us have the same mix and most of ours wouldn't work at somebody elses house
05/3/05 20:26:49 Clare_KS: I'm intrigued by the paper towel method discussed on the list today.
05/3/05 20:26:53 becky_co: alcedok9, I forgot who you really are... do you mind sharing again
05/3/05 20:26:54 Jana_in_Indiana: good guess Becky!
05/3/05 20:27:05 Clare_KS: I'm going to start some at work like that. (try, that is)
05/3/05 20:27:07 Alcedok9: Im Chris From Colorado.. Im sorry..
05/3/05 20:27:12 millie_ca: I have noticed my mini and trailers are a lot faster and standards are the slowest
05/3/05 20:27:19 becky_co: that's right, from Colorado Springs!
05/3/05 20:27:24 Clare_KS: But we call her Alice.
05/3/05 20:27:27 Jana_in_Indiana: I use Pat Hancocks soil recipe, with compost & dehydrated manure
05/3/05 20:27:37 millie_ca: but If I plant standard leaves very shallow they are faster
05/3/05 20:27:44 Walt_in_MD: It is their own mix and for the life of me I can't remember the name of the vendor  ;)
05/3/05 20:27:57 Carol_SK: Millie, are the large ones even slower?
05/3/05 20:28:30 millie_ca: Yes Carol
05/3/05 20:28:35 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): are you a member?
05/3/05 20:28:43 becky_co: Is it Violet Showcase?
05/3/05 20:28:49 Dougieducksluv Logs in [68.12.244.136]
05/3/05 20:28:50 Carol_SK: makes sense if the little ones are quicker
05/3/05 20:28:54 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: Yes-so if Brittney, my granddaughter
05/3/05 20:29:00 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Dougie!
05/3/05 20:29:00 Walt_in_MD: their mix is soiless and has the nutriants( :/ ) in it already. Very pleased with it
05/3/05 20:29:03 becky_co: Hi Dougie
05/3/05 20:29:21 millie_ca: Dougie introduce yourself
05/3/05 20:29:38 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): Isn't it at Loose Park?
05/3/05 20:29:48 becky_co: I found a "commercial" mix at the grocery store for avs... it's organic with baat guano and other stuff, I plan on trying it on a few avs
05/3/05 20:29:50 Alcedok9: so you have decided what soil you are going to use. you want it light and for it to remain moist? right?
05/3/05 20:29:57 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: I belong to Unpredictables and The Greater Kansas City club-their are two other local clubs besides those two!
05/3/05 20:30:02 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: Yep
05/3/05 20:30:11 becky_co: *bat*
05/3/05 20:30:30 del Logs in [70.64.104.53]
05/3/05 20:30:31 Walt_in_MD: yes you have to make sure that it stays just moist
05/3/05 20:30:32 Jana_in_Indiana: bat guano at the grocery store??? lol
05/3/05 20:30:32 becky_co: I've found I don't like vermiculite, keeps it too moist for me...
05/3/05 20:30:34 Dougieducksluv: Sorry, I am not real sure about how to do a chat, so I thought I would just sit here and take notes.
05/3/05 20:30:34 becky_co: Hi Del
05/3/05 20:30:38 Jana_in_Indiana: There he is!!!!!!!!!!!
05/3/05 20:30:46 becky_co: YEP, bat guano in the mix... let me grab it
05/3/05 20:30:55 Alcedok9: I cant find vermiculite here in Colorado Springs
05/3/05 20:30:59 millie_ca: Hi Del
05/3/05 20:31:11 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: I drive to the Blue SSprings group but get a ride to the KC group-fortunatly there is an older lady that doesn't mind driving but won't go by herself
05/3/05 20:31:11 Jana_in_Indiana: Dougie, would you please tell us your name & where you're from?
05/3/05 20:31:15 del: finally after trying fro 3/4 hour
05/3/05 20:31:25 del: how is everyone tonight
05/3/05 20:31:27 Walt_in_MD: Good to see you made it in Del
05/3/05 20:31:31 millie_ca: Ok Dougie Is this your first chat in here?
05/3/05 20:31:36 becky_co: I found some at Lowe's (I think) in Denver (wadsworth & I70 store)
05/3/05 20:31:38 Alcedok9: Del we opened the door and yelled for you
05/3/05 20:31:45 becky_co: lol chris
05/3/05 20:31:52 Dougieducksluv: Charlene from Oklahoma
05/3/05 20:32:02 sherry__(Mo): Hi Chatlene!
05/3/05 20:32:03 becky_co: Hi Charlene... :)
05/3/05 20:32:06 del: thanks i NEEDED IT
05/3/05 20:32:07 millie_ca: Hi Cjarlene
05/3/05 20:32:07 Jana_in_Indiana: welcome to your first chat Charlene!
05/3/05 20:32:12 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): I get lost in my own house :) so don't go many places at night.
05/3/05 20:32:20 paula0103: Hi Charlene, it's my first chat too
05/3/05 20:32:23 Dougieducksluv: It is only the second time I have chatted at all, the only other time is with customer service on QVC
05/3/05 20:32:34 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: LOLI know what you mean!!
05/3/05 20:32:45 Clare_KS: Doug, you'll be an old hand soon.
05/3/05 20:32:46 sherry__(Mo): Del, are you feeling better?
05/3/05 20:32:49 Alcedok9: most of the time if Im talking to Customer Service its not a friendly chat... :(
05/3/05 20:32:49 del: WHERE ARE WE JANA
05/3/05 20:32:54 Jana_in_Indiana: don't worry Charlene!  Most of us type VERY slow & make lots of mistakes!
05/3/05 20:33:11 millie_ca: Well Charlene you will find us very friendly and very interested in violets
05/3/05 20:33:13 Jana_in_Indiana: just waiting for you Del, go ahead & start where ever you want!
05/3/05 20:33:17 Alcedok9: its the spelling cops night off
05/3/05 20:33:21 del: TIRED BUT OTHERWISE FINE SHERRY
05/3/05 20:33:58 millie_ca: Del so nice to have you here
05/3/05 20:34:03 sherry__(Mo): Glad you're feeling better!!
05/3/05 20:34:07 becky_co: ok, the mix I found is "Black Gold" - it's peat moss (canadian), volcanic pumice, earthworm castings & fine screened bark.. ok, no bats :)
05/3/05 20:34:10 del: OK WHO IS HAVEING TROUBLE  WITH STARTING LEAVES AND SOIL MIXES ????
05/3/05 20:34:23 sherry__(Mo): Yep, we really miss you when you aren't here Del!
05/3/05 20:34:28 millie_ca: LOL Becky
05/3/05 20:34:41 paula0103: I've never started leaves so I need to know anything
05/3/05 20:34:42 Alcedok9: I dont know if I am having problems.. I havent tried it well not for years. and then I started them in water...
05/3/05 20:34:51 Jana_in_Indiana: I've heard of black gold Becky, the pot growers love it!
05/3/05 20:34:59 del: MILLIE GAVE OUT 15 LEAVES AND 5 STARTERS  YESTERDAY FOIR THE vr BIRTHDAY
05/3/05 20:35:04 becky_co: lol :?
05/3/05 20:35:22 Alcedok9: Millie you are so sweet
05/3/05 20:35:22 Carol_SK: phone call
05/3/05 20:35:23 millie_ca: How would u know Jana LOL LOL LOL
05/3/05 20:35:24 Jana_in_Indiana: good for you Del!  I took 3 with me to the ER yesterday, LOL
05/3/05 20:35:27 becky_co: hmmm, guess I better watch what starts growing
05/3/05 20:35:58 Jana_in_Indiana: ok Millie, that's not funny!  Well, yes it is!  It's on the hydroponics sites
05/3/05 20:35:58 Dougieducksluv: I was hoping someone would have a great idea for getting rid of gnats, but this is going way too quick for me to catch up with.
05/3/05 20:36:26 Alcedok9: Doug,, you can make the type larger if you like
05/3/05 20:36:26 becky_co: good question Charlene
05/3/05 20:36:39 del: IF YOU ARE USING SOIL MIX WHEN YOU FILL THE POT UP ABOUT 3.4 OF THE WAY AND IN THE MIDDLE MAKE A DEPRESSION AND BUT IN  PERLITE PUT THE LEAF INTO THE PERLITE REAL SHALLOW NO MORE THAN 3/4 IN AND JUST COVER THE VERY END OI F THE STEM
05/3/05 20:36:43 Dougieducksluv: I think I will just try to read your stuff tonight but nice to meet everyone
05/3/05 20:36:46 Jana_in_Indiana: Charlene, I just posted a link today to Gardens Alive, there's a liquid that get's rid of them quick, non toxic
05/3/05 20:37:02 millie_ca: Del I am dropping off 10 plants at the sterling inn tomorrow. Its a retirement center. Our club meets there for free once a month
05/3/05 20:37:23 del: MAKE SURE YOUR SOIL MIX IS DAMP AND DO NOT WATER FOR A DAY OR SO AND THE STARTED LEAVE DOES NOT HAVE TO GO ON THE LIGHT STAND RIGHT AWAY
05/3/05 20:37:24 Dougieducksluv: I have used that but still have big problem
05/3/05 20:37:51 paula0103: light stand?
05/3/05 20:37:58 becky_co: so, you put in the soil (regular mix) and then perlite in a depression?... hmmmm
05/3/05 20:38:10 Jana_in_Indiana: perhaps they're not fungus gnats?
05/3/05 20:38:16 del: i GOT PERMISSION AT WAL MART TO GIVE OUT LEAVES/STARTERS MILLIE THEY WENT IN UNDER AN HOUR
05/3/05 20:38:23 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, did Knock Out Gnats work for you?
05/3/05 20:38:23 Alcedok9: when you remove the leaf from the parent plant. you use a razor blade, and I heard somewhere to let the leaf set for 15 min before planting.. ????
05/3/05 20:38:24 millie_ca: Del I use the big tooth picks to secure the leaf. It does not hurt the process and it helps keep the leaf shallow in the soil
05/3/05 20:38:47 Dougieducksluv: I have also tried using insecticidal soap drench with sand on top, it seems to work the best to get rid of the bugs, but my violets are looking squeemish
05/3/05 20:39:28 Alcedok9: Millie you put the toothpick right thru the leaf to hold it?
05/3/05 20:39:40 Dougieducksluv: It seems like the soil comes with them in it for some reason
05/3/05 20:39:46 TonyC: Knock Out worked 1st time
05/3/05 20:39:55 Jana_in_Indiana: have you tried using Marathon granules in your soil Charlene?
05/3/05 20:39:55 del: YES A RAZOR BLDE BE GENTLY WHEN YOU CUT THE STEM TO  45 DEGREES SO AS NOT TO CRUSH IT  IT IS GOOD TO PUT THE LEAF IN WATER FOR 15 MINUTES TO LET IT GET SOME WATER THEN LET IT SIT FOR 1/2 HOUR THEN PUT INTO POT
05/3/05 20:40:13 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Tony, smae here!
05/3/05 20:40:20 becky_co: i've done that with a toothpick (the plastic ones work great)to help hold up a big leaf
05/3/05 20:40:23 Dougieducksluv: I wonder if I do something wrong or if it is because I keep buying new plants which need new soil and the bugs are in it.
05/3/05 20:40:28 millie_ca: Yes put the tooth pick right through the leaf into the soil I get the big tooth picks at the super market
05/3/05 20:40:45 becky_co: why let it sit for 1/2 hr?
05/3/05 20:40:45 del: I USE CUT UP VENITON BLIND TO SUPPOERRT THE LEAF
05/3/05 20:40:59 Alcedok9: that makes sense.. that way you dont have to put so much of the stem in the soil to give it support
05/3/05 20:41:28 Alcedok9: okay.. whats your take on root hormone ?
05/3/05 20:41:31 Dougieducksluv: Haven't heard of the Marathon crystals
05/3/05 20:41:36 becky_co: I've also cut down solo cups so one side is higher and leaned the leaf against the top
05/3/05 20:41:43 del: SO THE END WILL SO IT SOAKS UP A BIT OF WATER AND ALSO SO THE END WILL DRY THEN NO ROTTING TAKEING PLACE
05/3/05 20:42:05 millie_ca: Right the deeper you plant the leaf the longer to see mouse ears
05/3/05 20:42:11 Jana_in_Indiana: if you have 3 oz solo cups, make 1/2 inch wide cuts from the top to the bottom all the way around the cup, then cut the free from the bottom -- this makes wonderful little props to support the leaf & it already has a rolled top edge
05/3/05 20:42:15 Clare_KS: Wait, a toothpick? I missed something.
05/3/05 20:42:24 Alcedok9: never in my life thought Id be hoping and praying to see "mouse" ears LOL
05/3/05 20:43:01 Jana_in_Indiana: LOLOLOL
05/3/05 20:43:03 del: MOST ROOTING HORMONES ARE TO STRONG FOR VIOLETS IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE HORMONES THEN CUT IT  SAY 1 PART HORMONE TO 3 PARTS WATER  AND JUST DIP IT IN THE SOLUTION COUNT TO 5 THEN OUT
05/3/05 20:43:42 Walt_in_MD: It is awful when a watched pot boils faster then seeing mouse ears lol  lol
05/3/05 20:43:48 del: IT WILL TAKE 4 TO 6 WEEKS OR LONGER TO GET MOUSE EARS
05/3/05 20:43:51 Jana_in_Indiana: Del, the most common rooting hormones sold around here are powders
05/3/05 20:44:05 Alcedok9: Jana the one I have is powder
05/3/05 20:44:12 becky_co: me too!
05/3/05 20:44:15 del: WAL MART HAS THE LIGUID  JANE
05/3/05 20:44:17 Alcedok9: I have used it for starting other plants
05/3/05 20:44:21 millie_ca: I experiemented with rooting hormones several year's ago and found I do better without them
05/3/05 20:44:22 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
05/3/05 20:44:40 Alcedok9: guess I will try it without
05/3/05 20:44:43 becky_co: I've found I get babies in about the same time with or with out RH... I do get more roots though lol
05/3/05 20:44:50 Jana_in_Indiana: me too Millie, I think the powder clog up the pores on the petiole
05/3/05 20:44:51 Clare_KS: The toothpick doesn't damage the leaf? Or cause rot?
05/3/05 20:44:52 Alcedok9: OR I could do one with and one without?
05/3/05 20:45:19 Alcedok9: Clare, you dont care if the leave has a hole it in.. its not going to be part of the baby plant
05/3/05 20:45:24 becky_co: I think I looked every day the first couple of times I started leaves
05/3/05 20:45:26 millie_ca: No the tooth pick does no harm
05/3/05 20:45:27 Jana_in_Indiana: just dom't poke the toothpick thru the main vein in the leaf
05/3/05 20:45:32 del: jANA LOOK FOR liquid root stimulator IN WAL MART COST  4.95 FOR 50 ml
05/3/05 20:45:56 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Del!
05/3/05 20:46:00 Walt_in_MD: I use the powder with a small paint brush, you just want to give it a light dusting
05/3/05 20:46:01 millie_ca: I use the tooth pick on the side of the leaf
05/3/05 20:46:04 becky_co: I found the wood toothpicks start disintegrating before I am done with it
05/3/05 20:46:25 Alcedok9: okay so I have removed the leaf, with a sharp razor blade, soaked the leaf. let it rest for 30 min. potted it and propped it up... then what?
05/3/05 20:46:38 Jana_in_Indiana: & they get moldy quickly\
05/3/05 20:46:46 millie_ca: I usually get done befor they rot but they do rot
05/3/05 20:47:02 becky_co: wait  ;)
05/3/05 20:47:06 Alcedok9: Plastic toothpicks sound like a good idea
05/3/05 20:47:08 del: with the powder rooting hormone you can warter young plants using  1/2 TSP to a gallon of water
05/3/05 20:47:29 becky_co: hmmm... never thought of that
05/3/05 20:47:29 Jana_in_Indiana: to stimulate more roots Del?
05/3/05 20:47:31 Alcedok9: when do you cover them? put them under lights? start doing the prayers?
05/3/05 20:47:44 millie_ca: BE righ back puppy is over active tonight LOL
05/3/05 20:47:54 del: yes jana it will give you a stronger root system
05/3/05 20:47:57 Jana_in_Indiana: prayers are always good! ;)
05/3/05 20:48:03 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks!
05/3/05 20:48:22 Jana_in_Indiana: gotta love that puppy!
05/3/05 20:48:36 becky_co: how many of you cover your leaves?
05/3/05 20:48:43 del: when i start a leaf and have put it in the pot I leave it in total darkness for 24 hours never get any leaf stress this way
05/3/05 20:48:44 Jana_in_Indiana: I always do
05/3/05 20:48:58 Alcedok9: my puppies have been naughty today.. full of themselves. been too rainy the past few days for them to be out much I guess
05/3/05 20:49:16 becky_co: especially aussies!
05/3/05 20:49:23 del: I use a clear 5 oz  plastic clear drinking glass over the solo  cup
05/3/05 20:49:26 sherry__(Mo): I always do too
05/3/05 20:49:43 Walt_in_MD: I have had mine potted up for over a month and have only a little algee from using fert water instead of plan a couple of nights
05/3/05 20:49:47 Alcedok9: "Becky nothing like a muddy aussie
05/3/05 20:49:53 becky_co: good idea del, never thought of that for a "mini greenhouse"
05/3/05 20:49:55 Jana_in_Indiana: if my leaves arent too large, I use the cell packs & get LOTS of leaves in one tray
05/3/05 20:50:14 del: thats a good way jana
05/3/05 20:50:23 becky_co: I have trouble labeling them that way Jana...
05/3/05 20:50:57 Jana_in_Indiana: I write the name on little labels, then fold the label around a plastic toothpick & poke it in the hole
05/3/05 20:51:08 Alcedok9: right now I would have little problem labeling them.. pink or purple
05/3/05 20:51:09 sherry__(Mo): you can put the tape on the back of the leaf Becky
05/3/05 20:51:21 Jana_in_Indiana: the labels are about 1/2 " X 1 1/2 "
05/3/05 20:51:30 becky_co: lol chris, we'll have to help you with that
05/3/05 20:51:32 Dougieducksluv: I feel like a fool, I have been growing AV ever since my neighbor gave me one 5 years ago. the 1st one took off then I started buying more and sticking 3 leaves in a pot with hormone and getting more av's until I had all these babies I had to give away.
05/3/05 20:51:36 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL Chris!
05/3/05 20:51:42 becky_co: Charlene, how many av's do you have?
05/3/05 20:51:43 del: use a piece of veniton blind cut to lenght you want then cut that piece is 2 it is narrow does not take up much room and easy to write on the name
05/3/05 20:51:49 Dougieducksluv: I did not know there was really so much to this hobby.  i am excited nto s
05/3/05 20:52:09 Dougieducksluv: to start doing it right and see what happens
05/3/05 20:52:29 Jana_in_Indiana: you'll get the hang of it in no time Charlene!
05/3/05 20:52:29 Clare_KS: Doug, whatever works for you is the "right" way :)
05/3/05 20:52:38 sherry__(Mo): It's VERY addictive!!
05/3/05 20:52:48 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, if what you're doing is working, DON'T change it!
05/3/05 20:53:03 Alcedok9: I am telling you. I think we need a 12 step program for this hobby
05/3/05 20:53:10 Dougieducksluv: I do love seeing the little babies come, but I seem to grow a lot of mushrooms too, anyone else
05/3/05 20:53:13 del: if you do not have a soil mix that works for you try 2 perlite and 1 peat and use that for starting leaves
05/3/05 20:53:18 Walt_in_MD: I use the clear 2.5 ounch solo cups and black maker on the side of each cup
05/3/05 20:53:19 Clare_KS: Boy, you can say THAT twice!!
05/3/05 20:53:19 Jana_in_Indiana: we already have it chris, Share the Joy!!!!!
05/3/05 20:53:35 Jana_in_Indiana: mushrooms????????????????
05/3/05 20:53:36 Clare_KS: where do you get condiment cups?
05/3/05 20:53:42 Alcedok9: My name is Chris.. I raise African Violets......
05/3/05 20:53:49 sherry__(Mo): LOL
05/3/05 20:54:01 Dougieducksluv: I get little mushrooms growing out of my soil
05/3/05 20:54:02 becky_co: I found out this weekend that for some reason I have WAY more roots (for babies or mommies)if I have perlite in the bottom 1/3 of the cup
05/3/05 20:54:39 Jana_in_Indiana: I've never had mushrooms ever, is there mushroom compost in your soil?
05/3/05 20:54:40 sherry__(Mo): I think I'd try a different brand Charlene
05/3/05 20:54:40 becky_co: I had that Charlene when I used the cheaper potting soil from the store (my first try)... they didn't do any harm
05/3/05 20:54:44 Alcedok9: I wonder if its because they send roots to get to the moisture?
05/3/05 20:54:53 del: yes becky the perlite lets the roots go into it easier than the soil so they do actually grow faster
05/3/05 20:54:54 Dougieducksluv: I also did not know you should keep your violets in 6" or less pots
05/3/05 20:54:58 Jana_in_Indiana: Becky, Tony's been telling us that for a long time!
05/3/05 20:55:13 Dougieducksluv: I have some in 10 and 12 inch pots because they got so big
05/3/05 20:55:43 Walt_in_MD: Night all, WORK tomorrow
05/3/05 20:55:46 becky_co: It was odd though.... lots of leaves in the soil, very few in the perlite...
05/3/05 20:55:49 Jana_in_Indiana: are they blooming?
05/3/05 20:55:53 Alcedok9: Walt thanks for all the good information..
05/3/05 20:55:58 millie_ca: Jana  sent me a demon LOL
05/3/05 20:55:58 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Walt!
05/3/05 20:56:09 sherry__(Mo): Your pot should be 1/3 the size of your leaf span-but I usually go by the size of my rootball
05/3/05 20:56:12 Alcedok9: ahh Poor little puppy
05/3/05 20:56:12 Jana_in_Indiana: send her back Millie, I'll keep her!
05/3/05 20:56:24 sherry__(Mo): Night Walt!!
05/3/05 20:56:25 del: if i get a big leaf say from a standard then I cut 1/4 in off the top and same amount from each side do not take off more than  that of a leaf
05/3/05 20:56:27 Dougieducksluv: They are about 12 to 16 inches across with all kinds of blooms all the time.
05/3/05 20:56:28 becky_co: night Walt
05/3/05 20:56:47 del: night walt
05/3/05 20:56:49 Walt_in_MD: Before I forget I'll post about ebay tomorrow. Dats all folks
05/3/05 20:56:54 Clare_KS: Doug, where do you keep them?
05/3/05 20:56:54 becky_co: How can something named Molly be a demon :?
05/3/05 20:56:58 sherry__(Mo): You must be doing something right Charlene!!
05/3/05 20:57:00 Walt_in_MD Logs Out
05/3/05 20:57:05 Jana_in_Indiana: then don't change it Charlene!  It's obvioulsy working for you!
05/3/05 20:57:06 Alcedok9: Molly?? Molly is a sweet name
05/3/05 20:57:22 millie_ca: No way I will not send her back She has so much energy. She has the other dogs under control LOL
05/3/05 20:57:37 becky_co: LOL, that's cuz she wears them out
05/3/05 20:57:38 Jana_in_Indiana: I already knew that, LOL
05/3/05 20:57:48 becky_co: LOL Jana, didn't see your comment
05/3/05 20:57:54 Dougieducksluv: But I read where you should only have 5 layers of leaves, one of mine has got to have 12 layers of leavews ormore
05/3/05 20:57:58 Alcedok9: My dogs knocked me down last night, I hit hard, havent fallen in years. and I will admit I dont bounce as well as I use to
05/3/05 20:58:10 becky_co: uh oh, are you sore today
05/3/05 20:58:13 sherry__(Mo): That's too bad!
05/3/05 20:58:22 del: becky thanks for putting the crystal gel info from our chat into the files
05/3/05 20:58:32 Jana_in_Indiana: Charlene, a row is only 3 leaves
05/3/05 20:58:32 Alcedok9: Very sore.. I about had to stop vacuuming today
05/3/05 20:58:50 millie_ca: She   sure does were them down. She even took over Mitzie's bed and Mitzie is 18 and the boss, Not no more LOL
05/3/05 20:58:55 Dougieducksluv: Should I remove all the extra leaves and try to make babies?
05/3/05 20:58:56 becky_co: no problem... I forgot about it until everybody started chatting about the crystals on VR this weekend :)
05/3/05 20:59:20 sherry__(Mo): People shouldn't have to vacuum anyway-LOL
05/3/05 20:59:23 Jana_in_Indiana: olders leaves sometimes won't produce at all, or take forever if they do
05/3/05 20:59:23 del: well thanks then for remembering beckyLOL
05/3/05 20:59:24 Dougieducksluv: Oh my gosh if a row is only three leaves I must have 40 leaves on this av
05/3/05 20:59:28 Alcedok9: Sherry LOL
05/3/05 20:59:29 becky_co: the lower (i.e. older) leaves seem to take a lot longer to produce
05/3/05 20:59:44 becky_co: I agree Sherry
05/3/05 21:00:10 Clare_KS: what do you mean, a row is only 3 leaves? That doesn't make sense.
05/3/05 21:00:24 becky_co: I keep telling my kitties to vacuum, clean the house, etc. when I leave for work... they haven't done it yet, but I keep hoping :)
05/3/05 21:00:26 del: most times any leaf lower than the third row will take long to even root and a lot of times never will
05/3/05 21:00:27 Jana_in_Indiana: the crown only sprouts 3 leaves at a time
05/3/05 21:00:31 Dougieducksluv: How should I go about reducing the size of this plant or should I
05/3/05 21:00:42 sherry__(Mo): Look at your crown at the new leaves coming in
05/3/05 21:00:46 millie_ca: I like second and third row leaves I discard anything older then that
05/3/05 21:00:54 Clare_KS: oh, Thanks, Jana, I see what you mean.
05/3/05 21:00:59 becky_co: slowly so you don't send it into shock if you hae that many layers
05/3/05 21:01:00 del: same here millie
05/3/05 21:01:39 Dougieducksluv: What will I do with all the stem that is leftn if I take off all the lower leaves?
05/3/05 21:01:57 Alcedok9: another palm tree?
05/3/05 21:02:05 becky_co: don't the big champion ones have more layers than that?
05/3/05 21:02:17 millie_ca: I have to take down a pink obsessions and she is at least 20 inches across
05/3/05 21:02:23 Jana_in_Indiana: repot it, slicing enough off the bottom of the root ball to pot it lower in the new pot
05/3/05 21:02:52 del: I take off 1 row a day till I get it to where i want it then wait for a week to let it  revive some then repot by cutting off the root ball enough to have the leaves left on about 1/2 above the pot rim
05/3/05 21:02:56 Jana_in_Indiana: placing soil over the 'long neck' stem
05/3/05 21:03:03 millie_ca: if u slice off the bottom cover with a baggie for  a hile
05/3/05 21:03:03 Dougieducksluv: Should I pot it back into a smaller pot? It is in a 10" I think maybe 12"
05/3/05 21:03:11 del: yes jana it does work
05/3/05 21:03:25 Jane_CA Logs in [69.4.137.79]
05/3/05 21:03:31 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Jane!
05/3/05 21:03:34 millie_ca: Hi Jane
05/3/05 21:03:38 sherry__(Mo): Hi Jane
05/3/05 21:03:40 Jane_CA: Hi All......
05/3/05 21:03:43 Dougieducksluv: Hi Jane
05/3/05 21:03:57 del: pot it up into apot that is about 1/2 in or so larger than the root ball is
05/3/05 21:04:05 del: Hi Jane
05/3/05 21:04:11 Clare_KS: ugh, I have to get to bed. Have to get up at 6 again tomorrow.
05/3/05 21:04:21 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Clare!
05/3/05 21:04:23 becky_co: a good rule I've heard is the plant should be about 3x wht width of the pot
05/3/05 21:04:26 Clare_KS: See you tomorrow night :)
05/3/05 21:04:28 becky_co: night clare
05/3/05 21:04:30 sherry__(Mo): Take care Clare!!
05/3/05 21:04:33 Alcedok9: that just made me think?? ( dangerous sometimes) when you are taking leaves for potting, how many can you safely take on the average plant?
05/3/05 21:04:35 Jane_CA: Del, I replanted my babies. I think I lost one, the others are hanging in there...
05/3/05 21:04:36 millie_ca: Night clare and thanks for joining in
05/3/05 21:04:36 del: nite clare
05/3/05 21:04:47 Clare_KS Logs Out
05/3/05 21:04:59 Dougieducksluv: Is there a placce to post pics where I could show you what it nlooks nlike?  It really is pretty just HUGH
05/3/05 21:05:20 Jana_in_Indiana: put the photo in the photo section on VR
05/3/05 21:05:23 millie_ca: Yes doug in the files
05/3/05 21:05:29 Alcedok9: does it harm a plant to be that large?
05/3/05 21:05:38 del: great jane put them on the lower shelf or a window sill east so they do not get to might strong light the lower shelf will be a little cooler than the top one is
05/3/05 21:05:51 becky_co: is it Tiger that they always show so HUGE
05/3/05 21:06:20 becky_co: doesn't that have more than 3 layers?
05/3/05 21:06:30 Dougieducksluv: I don't know what variety this is.  It has purple white flowers and dk greeen  wavy leaves
05/3/05 21:06:35 Alcedok9: so after 24 hrs in the dark, you put it under lights or in a window?
05/3/05 21:06:36 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, lots more than 3 layers/rows
05/3/05 21:06:39 del: black magic is really big for me it is in a 5 in pot and has 72 blooms on it
05/3/05 21:06:51 becky_co: WOW!!!
05/3/05 21:06:53 Jane_CA: Del, they are on top of the refrig where they get artifical lite. It may be a little warm up there tho
05/3/05 21:06:54 millie_ca: No Doug and if it is classified as a large they get huge but I take them down every three years. Sone can keep leaves for a long time but some can't
05/3/05 21:06:59 sherry__(Mo): Wow Del!!
05/3/05 21:07:09 del: yes by keeping it in the dark the leaf will not  stress on you
05/3/05 21:07:35 Alcedok9: So if you have your leaves covered. how should you check if the leaf has enough water?
05/3/05 21:07:43 Dougieducksluv: Maybe that is what this is because it is big, but it still performs beautifully.
05/3/05 21:07:47 becky_co: I have an av that is about 12 yrs old that is blooming like crazy right now!  It's about 18" across
05/3/05 21:07:53 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm just wondering, if Charlene's AV is huge, blooming & continuing to grow, does hse HAVE to remove leaves & Why?
05/3/05 21:07:58 del: top of fridge is a good place to put them  after repotting as you are getting bottom  heat which violets love
05/3/05 21:08:17 Dougieducksluv: becky what size pot?
05/3/05 21:08:20 Jane_CA: Thanks Del for the help...
05/3/05 21:08:29 becky_co: I would think not Jana...
05/3/05 21:08:30 del: welcome jane
05/3/05 21:08:46 becky_co: Charlene, I think it's in a 6" pot
05/3/05 21:09:29 Jane_CA: Becky, that is a huge plant!!!
05/3/05 21:09:39 Alcedok9: I think tomorrow  I will try setting a couple leaves from my  noid...
05/3/05 21:09:47 Dougieducksluv: Well, I think the best thing for me to do is to start taking some leaves and trying to get me a few new babies off this and just leave it in the pot it is in. what do you think
05/3/05 21:09:59 becky_co: It is very happy.. even though I did everything "wrong" for about 10 years LOL
05/3/05 21:10:07 Jana_in_Indiana: noids make wonderful guinea pigs, LOL.  Use them to practice everything!
05/3/05 21:10:11 del: yes noid violets are good to experiment on
05/3/05 21:10:20 Dougieducksluv: what are noids?
05/3/05 21:10:34 Jana_in_Indiana: NO ID
05/3/05 21:10:43 Alcedok9: But I still love my two little noids.. we dont mention in front of them that they come from the wrong side of the watering can
05/3/05 21:10:46 Dougieducksluv: OK, DAAAAA
05/3/05 21:10:46 Jana_in_Indiana: NO identification
05/3/05 21:10:47 del: no named violets
05/3/05 21:11:05 becky_co: Av's that came with no name... like those ones you get at the grocery store, etc.
05/3/05 21:11:09 millie_ca: have to go Molly is demanding my attencion
05/3/05 21:11:16 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Millie!
05/3/05 21:11:16 Dougieducksluv: buy
05/3/05 21:11:19 millie_ca: night all
05/3/05 21:11:23 Jane_CA: Bye Millie
05/3/05 21:11:24 Alcedok9: night Millie,, hugs and kisses to Mollie
05/3/05 21:11:25 millie_ca Logs Out
05/3/05 21:11:28 Dougieducksluv: bye millie
05/3/05 21:11:28 del: night millie  take care of her
05/3/05 21:11:37 sherry__(Mo): Night Millie
05/3/05 21:11:43 becky_co: lol chris
05/3/05 21:12:02 becky_co: I got a chimera yesterday - Carnation Sprinkles!
05/3/05 21:12:13 Dougieducksluv: Gotta go too, thanks for all your help
05/3/05 21:12:17 del: has anyone got  any subjects they would like us to cover in future  tues chats ??????
05/3/05 21:12:19 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite charlene!
05/3/05 21:12:29 becky_co: night Charlene
05/3/05 21:12:41 del: night charlene
05/3/05 21:12:47 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, Del, I need to create many more hours in my day!  Please explain how!
05/3/05 21:12:53 Jane_CA: Nite Charlene
05/3/05 21:12:54 becky_co: lol Jana
05/3/05 21:13:06 becky_co: I don't think that can be covered in this chat
05/3/05 21:13:07 sherry__(Mo): Night Charlene!
05/3/05 21:13:19 del: I sure need that also jana LOL
05/3/05 21:13:30 Jane_CA: Jana, my hubby says for me to get up earlier for a longer day....
05/3/05 21:13:49 Jana_in_Indiana: earlier?  I only sleep 3 to 4 hours as it is!
05/3/05 21:14:01 Alcedok9: LOL..
05/3/05 21:14:09 Jane_CA: And your day isn't long enough??? Oh my
05/3/05 21:14:14 del: how about for next week we do long necks and what to do with them ????
05/3/05 21:14:21 Alcedok9: I took notes, but this chat will be posted?
05/3/05 21:14:22 Jana_in_Indiana: great Del!
05/3/05 21:14:23 sherry__(Mo): Jana is just toooo busy!
05/3/05 21:14:30 becky_co: sounds like a great idea!
05/3/05 21:14:33 del: how come so much jana LOL
05/3/05 21:14:36 Jana_in_Indiana: & lately not home much!
05/3/05 21:14:43 Alcedok9: and how about how to train your leaves to be correct?
05/3/05 21:14:51 becky_co: another good topic
05/3/05 21:14:52 Jana_in_Indiana: stuff just keeps happening Del
05/3/05 21:15:01 sherry__(Mo): Slow down Jana-we want to keep you around!!
05/3/05 21:15:48 Jana_in_Indiana: I plan to stay around Sherry!  Hopefully life will calm doown after the wedding this weekeknd
05/3/05 21:16:02 Jana_in_Indiana: you have no idea what last weekeknd was like!
05/3/05 21:16:05 del: another good subject i think is what size to repot up into what you think Jana
05/3/05 21:16:24 Jana_in_Indiana: repotting sound like a great topic for newbies
05/3/05 21:16:29 Jane_CA: And taking care of new babies!!!???
05/3/05 21:16:35 Alcedok9: I'm going to run.. thanks again for all the wonderful help and friendship.. you are all great
05/3/05 21:16:36 Jana_in_Indiana: cover the when, why & how?
05/3/05 21:16:41 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite chris
05/3/05 21:16:47 Alcedok9: night sleep well
05/3/05 21:16:50 sherry__(Mo): Night Chris
05/3/05 21:16:51 Alcedok9 Logs Out
05/3/05 21:16:53 del: ok I am writting down these subjects  for future chats
05/3/05 21:16:54 becky_co: night Chris
05/3/05 21:16:58 paula0103: Those topics sound good to me
05/3/05 21:17:05 del: night chris
05/3/05 21:17:28 becky_co: Paula, how many av's do you have?
05/3/05 21:17:35 Jana_in_Indiana: Charlene & Paula, I hope you enjoyed your first chat & will return often!
05/3/05 21:17:42 paula0103: Just 7 with 2 more in the mail
05/3/05 21:18:05 becky_co: what are you getting!
05/3/05 21:18:25 del: I double that jana
05/3/05 21:18:29 paula0103: 2 from Ebay,
05/3/05 21:18:55 del: sherry how about a chat on trailers ????
05/3/05 21:19:10 paula0103: This was interesting.  What are trailers?
05/3/05 21:19:25 Jana_in_Indiana: Del, can you tell everyone the details of grooming trailers?
05/3/05 21:19:29 sherry__(Mo): Sounds great Del!!
05/3/05 21:19:34 Jana_in_Indiana: trailing AV's
05/3/05 21:19:46 Jana_in_Indiana: lots of 'branches'
05/3/05 21:20:05 paula0103: I guess I have never seen those before
05/3/05 21:20:14 del: violets that trail downthe side of the pot (the large trailers or the semi trailers you grow into a nice sort of ball like a outdoor shurb
05/3/05 21:20:31 Jana_in_Indiana: Paula, go to www.avsa.org, click on photographs & prepare to drool!
05/3/05 21:20:39 sherry__(Mo): Mine and Del's favorites!! LOL
05/3/05 21:20:59 paula0103: I have looked there but not at everything.
05/3/05 21:21:07 del: ok maked down trailers right sherry I need some badly only got 2 left
05/3/05 21:21:27 becky_co: Many of the trailers have "trail" in their name
05/3/05 21:21:37 Jana_in_Indiana: want Sweet Amy Sue Del, I seperated her & have about 15!
05/3/05 21:21:42 sherry__(Mo): Del, I went to help one of our older members today. She had a trailer she hadn't removed buds from and one she had-the one she hadn't removed buds from looked a lot better
05/3/05 21:21:55 becky_co: wow, very fertile mommy
05/3/05 21:22:07 del: to see a picture of a trailer go to AVSA photos look up Rob,s Sticky wicket  (its one of the best and easy to grow)
05/3/05 21:22:12 sherry__(Mo): Will send you some if your weather ever warms up-LOL
05/3/05 21:22:26 Jana_in_Indiana: no Becky, I tore the trailer into single starts, the plant, not babies from a leaf
05/3/05 21:22:40 becky_co: wow
05/3/05 21:22:52 del: HOPE IN 3 WEEKS SHERRY
05/3/05 21:23:03 del: sorry for the caps
05/3/05 21:23:05 Jana_in_Indiana: gonna send them to newbies if it will just warm up!  29 degrees this AM!
05/3/05 21:23:13 sherry__(Mo): Great!! Del!!
05/3/05 21:23:17 paula0103: Maybe me???
05/3/05 21:23:32 del: hey jana we got up to 50F today WOW
05/3/05 21:23:41 Jana_in_Indiana: as soon as you've been a member for 3 months, or is it 2?  For Share the Joy?
05/3/05 21:23:54 Jana_in_Indiana: you're warmer than here Del!
05/3/05 21:23:58 Jane_CA: Hey gang we made it to 79 with rain and cooler tomorrow
05/3/05 21:23:58 sherry__(Mo): 3-I think
05/3/05 21:24:00 becky_co: I think it's 3...
05/3/05 21:24:00 del: thought it was 2 Jana
05/3/05 21:24:30 del: but still freezes at night here
05/3/05 21:24:30 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, it's definite!  WE don't know how many months!  LOL!
05/3/05 21:24:41 sherry__(Mo): Guess we'll have to read-LOL
05/3/05 21:24:42 Jane_CA: I think it is 3 Jana
05/3/05 21:25:02 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I just wait for Millie to assign me someone, LOL
05/3/05 21:25:12 del: never heard it had changed Jana but i was off for a month remember
05/3/05 21:25:30 sherry__(Mo): We've got a show coming up in two weeks!
05/3/05 21:25:34 Jana_in_Indiana: I do know the rules were revised & the shipping & handling fee was changed
05/3/05 21:25:55 Jana_in_Indiana: Del, what is the lowest low temp that you will still ship?
05/3/05 21:26:02 del: what is handleing and shipping charges now Jana
05/3/05 21:26:07 Jana_in_Indiana: $15
05/3/05 21:26:15 sherry__(Mo): Tony-why are you so quiet?
05/3/05 21:26:41 del: when it does not freeze at night jana LOL
05/3/05 21:26:41 TonyC: playing little mouse
05/3/05 21:26:55 sherry__(Mo): LOL
05/3/05 21:27:03 paula0103: I must go.  Thanks alot for all the info
05/3/05 21:27:06 del: LOL Tony
05/3/05 21:27:15 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Paula!
05/3/05 21:27:17 Jane_CA: What is Little mouse, if I might ask!!
05/3/05 21:27:20 sherry__(Mo): Hope you join us again Paula!
05/3/05 21:27:24 paula0103 Logs Out
05/3/05 21:27:24 del: night paula
05/3/05 21:27:46 sherry__(Mo): The little mouse that ROARED-LOL
05/3/05 21:27:47 Jana_in_Indiana: Charlene, next time you come to chat, just sign in with your first name & state, then everyone will know who you are
05/3/05 21:27:50 TonyC: little mouse in the corner not making a lot of noise
05/3/05 21:28:03 sherry__(Mo): But that's no fun Tony!
05/3/05 21:28:18 becky_co: I think it's time for me to go too!  Great chat
05/3/05 21:28:20 Jane_CA: Oh, that little mouse...
05/3/05 21:28:26 sherry__(Mo): Night Becky
05/3/05 21:28:27 del: I got 2 mice in my shed I am trying to catch
05/3/05 21:28:31 Jana_in_Indiana: Del, you're not concerned about the chilling when below 50 degrees?
05/3/05 21:28:37 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Becky!
05/3/05 21:28:39 del: night becky
05/3/05 21:28:40 Jane_CA: Night Becky
05/3/05 21:28:42 sherry__(Mo): Get a cat Del
05/3/05 21:28:57 del: hey 50 is great weather
05/3/05 21:29:06 sherry__(Mo): A warm, snuggly kitten!
05/3/05 21:29:15 del: sure sherry
05/3/05 21:29:20 Jane_CA: Hot 50 or cold 50?
05/3/05 21:29:22 sherry__(Mo): LOL
05/3/05 21:29:26 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, I got one of the show plants chilled, it's going limp, & it wasn't near freezing!
05/3/05 21:29:35 del: hot 50 F jana
05/3/05 21:29:38 sherry__(Mo): Oh no Jana!
05/3/05 21:29:40 becky_co Logs Out
05/3/05 21:29:59 Jane_CA: Here in CA, 50 is cold!!!
05/3/05 21:30:27 Jana_in_Indiana: the pilot light in the furnace went out, blower stayed on, blew cool/cold air it way  :(
05/3/05 21:30:29 del: worse thing for shipping here or from me is if its fby air it is still to cold up there for violets
05/3/05 21:30:45 TonyC: see you all tomorrow. Have a good night
05/3/05 21:30:47 Jana_in_Indiana: it's Wranglers Dixie Celebration
05/3/05 21:30:51 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Tony!
05/3/05 21:30:55 TonyC Logs Out
05/3/05 21:30:56 del: 50 siuntanning waether for us eskimo,s LOL
05/3/05 21:30:58 sherry__(Mo): Take care Tony!
05/3/05 21:31:05 del: night Tony
05/3/05 21:31:15 Dougieducksluv Logs Out
05/3/05 21:31:21 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL Del!
05/3/05 21:31:36 Jana_in_Indiana: Del, are you an Eskimo?
05/3/05 21:31:38 del: bikini weather Jana LOL
05/3/05 21:31:39 sherry__(Mo): Del, did you get my email about the redbud seedlings?
05/3/05 21:31:50 del: not yet
05/3/05 21:31:53 sherry__(Mo): LOL Del
05/3/05 21:32:30 Jana_in_Indiana: obviously Del hasn't seen my photo or he wouldn't put 'bikini' & Jana in the same sentence!
05/3/05 21:32:32 del: yes sherry how about if we get together on IM when you can and we will talk on it then
05/3/05 21:32:45 del: you name the day and time sherry
05/3/05 21:32:47 sherry__(Mo): Just say when Del!
05/3/05 21:33:10 sherry__(Mo): LOL-usually any time for me...if it isn't too early!
05/3/05 21:33:14 del: oh come on jana we know you are cute
05/3/05 21:33:32 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, he DEFINITELY hasn't seen my photo!
05/3/05 21:33:34 sherry__(Mo): You're beautiful to us Jana!
05/3/05 21:33:49 del: you pick it sherry as you have the builders and that to work around
05/3/05 21:33:51 Jana_in_Indiana: *)
05/3/05 21:34:20 sherry__(Mo): Ok-they are supposed to call me in the morning-so maybe I'll find out then what's going on Del
05/3/05 21:34:23 del: all my gals on VR are the  best
05/3/05 21:34:56 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Del, you are the best too!
05/3/05 21:35:00 sherry__(Mo): Jana-I asked Fay about the punchline-and she didn't know either! LOL
05/3/05 21:35:02 del: ok I will be on at noon my time tomorrow hows that its now 8.34 here
05/3/05 21:35:43 del: you are 1hour a head of me right sherry
05/3/05 21:35:48 sherry__(Mo): I usually don't get to bed until 4 or 5 in the morning Del. I may be up by then tomorrow-if so, I'll give you a shout!
05/3/05 21:36:02 sherry__(Mo): It's 9:36 here now
05/3/05 21:36:11 Jana_in_Indiana: figures Sherry, did do anything for me either
05/3/05 21:36:16 sherry__(Mo): Yep an hour then!
05/3/05 21:36:17 del: ok or even tomorrow night is good for me sherry
05/3/05 21:36:35 Jana_in_Indiana: didn't*
05/3/05 21:36:44 del: ok sherry 1 hour difference then
05/3/05 21:36:54 Jana_in_Indiana: Del, I also need advice from you!
05/3/05 21:37:04 sherry__(Mo): I'll give you a shout tomorrow Del!!
05/3/05 21:37:24 del: anytime jana  I will help you if i can
05/3/05 21:37:26 Jana_in_Indiana: on removing TC from sterile medium, any tricks or tips?
05/3/05 21:37:30 sherry__(Mo): What would we do without out Del!?!!
05/3/05 21:37:42 Jana_in_Indiana: we'd make LOTS more mistakes!
05/3/05 21:38:09 sherry__(Mo): That's for sure!! And I wouldn't be growuing AV's-they'd all be dead!
05/3/05 21:38:15 del: you mean when there is a good root and top growth in the  culture Jana
05/3/05 21:38:18 Jane_CA Disconnects
05/3/05 21:38:23 Jana_in_Indiana: already subcultured & have roots, about 1 1/2 inch tall
05/3/05 21:38:43 Jana_in_Indiana: or are they too small?
05/3/05 21:39:36 del: I used the same as  rooting violets when the top growth is big enough that I am ok with removing it make sure you sterilize the interments you use  when doing it
05/3/05 21:39:55 Shellie_NM Logs in [68.35.120.27]
05/3/05 21:40:05 del: Hi Shellie
05/3/05 21:40:12 sherry__(Mo): Hi Shellie!
05/3/05 21:40:22 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, but if it's going into room air, it will beexposed to lots of fungus, bacteria, molds, etc
05/3/05 21:40:32 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Shellie!
05/3/05 21:40:57 Shellie_NM: Hi everyone, sorry to be late but I had to give my puppy a bath and dry her and then take her to her handler.  Four show this weekend in Big Springs Texas.
05/3/05 21:41:23 del: then I would make sure the pot or container you use is disinfected and also cover them for a few weeks till they adjust to the new climate jana
05/3/05 21:41:44 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, so bascically like removing babies from leaf?
05/3/05 21:42:27 del: yes that is the way I allways did it and it seemed to work the best I did lose some by not sterilizing everything
05/3/05 21:43:15 del: I used the rubbing alchol for sterilizing Jana
05/3/05 21:43:18 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, sterile procedure is old hat for me, all those years working in hosp!  No contamination at all in any of the original cultures or subcultures
05/3/05 21:43:44 Jana_in_Indiana: I've used alcohol one time, bleach water 10% sol. the other time'
05/3/05 21:44:05 del: and if you do get a little fungus or mold give the mold a shot of vinigar it will help get rid of it Jana
05/3/05 21:44:15 Jane_CA Logs in [69.4.137.79]
05/3/05 21:44:16 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks Del!
05/3/05 21:44:21 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Jane!
05/3/05 21:44:23 del: Hi Jane
05/3/05 21:44:27 Shellie_NM: Hi Jane
05/3/05 21:44:30 sherry__(Mo): Hi Jane!
05/3/05 21:44:38 Jana_in_Indiana: Jane, weren't you here already?
05/3/05 21:44:41 Jane_CA: My power went out is why I left so suddenly
05/3/05 21:44:52 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, ok, everything ok now?
05/3/05 21:44:59 del: I am in the process of doing TC on roses Jana now
05/3/05 21:45:08 Jane_CA: I sure hope so!!
05/3/05 21:45:24 Jana_in_Indiana: wonderful Del, using bud shoots?  Root tips or what?
05/3/05 21:45:26 Jane_CA: Gee you didn't even miss me!!!
05/3/05 21:45:32 del: glad you came back jane
05/3/05 21:45:47 Jane_CA: Thanks Del!!
05/3/05 21:45:49 del: using bud shoots
05/3/05 21:46:00 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, your own hybrids?
05/3/05 21:46:05 Jane_CA: Bud Shoots?
05/3/05 21:46:10 Jana_in_Indiana: roses Jane
05/3/05 21:46:10 del: root tips are easy do not need TC for roses
05/3/05 21:46:24 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, right!
05/3/05 21:46:38 Jane_CA: Oh, I would like to know how to grow roses from cuttings
05/3/05 21:46:41 del: yes these are ones I  did from croses Jana
05/3/05 21:46:46 Jana_in_Indiana: have you tried using a colne machine with AV leaves Del?
05/3/05 21:46:50 Jana_in_Indiana: clone*
05/3/05 21:47:09 Jana_in_Indiana: thought they would be Del, best way to get lots quickly
05/3/05 21:47:10 sherry__(Mo): Neat Del!!
05/3/05 21:47:54 del: right about now is one of the best times to start roses from cuttings when the buds are fully swollon and leaves just starting to open or are open  about 3/4 way
05/3/05 21:48:08 Jana_in_Indiana: a friend sent me a clone machine several months ago, haven't even set it up yet
05/3/05 21:48:17 Jane_CA: They are now blooming her in CA
05/3/05 21:48:21 del: nope never tried it jana
05/3/05 21:48:31 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks
05/3/05 21:48:34 sherry__(Mo): How does a clone machine work Jana?
05/3/05 21:49:10 del: I love to get buds from the   flower shops of cut roses  they  are good to use
05/3/05 21:49:34 Jana_in_Indiana: has a pump & misting valves that continuously spray a fine mist of nutrients & hormones onto the cutting, don't know if it'll work with AV's or would be worth the bother, I know it'll work w/ roses
05/3/05 21:49:36 sherry__(Mo): Duh-guess that was a dumb question-just can't visualize!
05/3/05 21:49:44 del: long as they are not woody (hard) then you can take cuttings
05/3/05 21:49:49 sherry__(Mo): Neat!
05/3/05 21:49:49 Jane_CA: We want to get cuttings from my mother in laws yard. she passed away and had some beautiful roses
05/3/05 21:50:20 sherry__(Mo): That would be nice Jane!
05/3/05 21:50:32 Jana_in_Indiana: Jane, shove a spade thru the center of the rosebush & take half, it'll have roots & grow for you
05/3/05 21:50:33 del: yes it will jana that is what we used in the hort department for starting cuttings
05/3/05 21:50:34 Jane_CA: We are even considering digging up the bushes
05/3/05 21:50:55 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks Del
05/3/05 21:51:06 Jane_CA: Some are quite large established bushes
05/3/05 21:51:09 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll bet we're keeping you up too late aren't we Del?
05/3/05 21:51:16 del: hey thats the lazy smart way to do it jana ROTFLOL
05/3/05 21:51:20 sherry__(Mo): Darn-thought of something I need to do so I'd better go
05/3/05 21:51:31 Jana_in_Indiana: lazy & smart?  Sounds good to me!
05/3/05 21:51:32 Jane_CA: Bye sherry
05/3/05 21:51:40 sherry__(Mo): I'll try to catch you tomorrow Del!!
05/3/05 21:51:40 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite sherry!
05/3/05 21:51:43 del: yes but I am haveing fun Jana
05/3/05 21:51:48 sherry__(Mo): Taje care everyone!!
05/3/05 21:51:53 Jana_in_Indiana: that's all that matters Del!
05/3/05 21:51:55 del: night sherry
05/3/05 21:51:56 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out
05/3/05 21:52:13 del: good sherry
05/3/05 21:52:35 Jane_CA: Are roses easy to move? should they be cut back? she had mini roses too
05/3/05 21:52:40 Jana_in_Indiana: Carol, you've been awfully quiet tonight!
05/3/05 21:53:29 Jana_in_Indiana: mini's are simple, just divide & take half, getting half the roots, same for bushes, then cut back about 1/2 the canes, it'll bounce back
05/3/05 21:54:00 Jana_in_Indiana: remove any that look like they have woody 'bark' on them
05/3/05 21:54:26 del: try to move them before they leaf out if leafed out you have to dig about out to the size of the branches (the width ) and you should cut at least half the top down and should mound soil at least half way up the trunk and make sure you water good
05/3/05 21:54:40 Jane_CA: She also has an antique York rose that has been in the family for over 100 years, well, not that same bush...
05/3/05 21:55:22 Jane_CA: Del, they have already leafed and blooming. We havne't got too much time before they dry up
05/3/05 21:55:50 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry folks, but I'm going to have to leave.  I'm catching another 'bug' & plan to rest more (yah, right!)
05/3/05 21:55:53 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite!
05/3/05 21:56:01 Jane_CA: Nite Jane
05/3/05 21:56:09 Jane_CA: That should be Jana
05/3/05 21:56:15 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
05/3/05 21:56:20 Shellie_NM: nite Jana
05/3/05 21:56:23 del: good idea when planting roses take abunch of peat moss wet it till it is swimming in water and after you difg the hole puta good 3 to 5 inches of sopping wet peat moss in the hole and set the root ball on that then put the rest of the soil in up to leavel
05/3/05 21:56:47 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out
05/3/05 21:57:16 del: Hi carol never seen you come on
05/3/05 21:57:31 Jane_CA: Didn't she leave a while ago?
05/3/05 21:58:40 Jane_CA: I'm going to have to leave also....
05/3/05 21:58:52 Shellie_NM: nite Jane
05/3/05 21:58:54 Jane_CA: Take care all
05/3/05 21:59:05 del: it is time for me to go night everyone
05/3/05 21:59:10 Jane_CA Logs Out
05/3/05 21:59:29 Shellie_NM: Godd nite to all then it is time to put this chat to bed
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