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05/29/05 19:58:42 Tony_IL: hi Tom
05/29/05 19:58:42 Tom_in_WI: Hi Tony!
05/29/05 19:59:06 Tom_in_WI: Look's like you were the first one tonight.
05/29/05 19:59:09 Tony_IL: this is a first. 2 Roosters and no hens
05/29/05 19:59:36 Tony_IL: I got your list, but only have 1 of the Silverglades
05/29/05 20:00:25 Tony_IL: how long have you been at this?
05/29/05 20:00:37 Tom_in_WI: I posted a more complete list in the file section but  I think the ones I list aren't "easy" to find.
05/29/05 20:01:06 Denise Logs in [204.50.10.8]
05/29/05 20:01:08 Tony_IL: will take a look tomorrow
05/29/05 20:01:13 Tony_IL: hi Denise
05/29/05 20:01:30 Denise: Hi Tom  & Tony
05/29/05 20:01:32 Tom_in_WI: I've be in and out of this for a long time.  I much to show for it at this time
05/29/05 20:01:50 Tom_in_WI: Hi Denise
05/29/05 20:02:31 Tony_IL: are you the same Denise as in the Swap Buddies group
05/29/05 20:02:36 Tom_in_WI: Tony, what silerglade do you have?
05/29/05 20:02:51 Denise: No, that is another Denise.  I'm in BC Canada
05/29/05 20:02:58 Tony_IL: I'll send you a list later Tom
05/29/05 20:03:42 Denise: I just seen one of the Silverglades, Silverglades Oyster, I believe, sell for over $40 on ebay.
05/29/05 20:04:06 Tom_in_WI: That's outragious!
05/29/05 20:04:27 Tony_IL: why would anyone spend that much when they could buy a plant or leaves for much less????
05/29/05 20:04:46 Denise: I don't grow any Silverglades, but perhaps it is a variety that is hard to find.
05/29/05 20:04:55 Tom_in_WI: I think people just get carried away at auctions.
05/29/05 20:05:24 Tony_IL: my thoughts also, Tom
05/29/05 20:05:39 Denise: I guess that is good if you are the one selling.  Not if you want to buy the same plant, though!
05/29/05 20:06:09 Tony_IL: it's your money, you make the choice
05/29/05 20:06:36 Peggy_in_Pa Logs in [207.172.119.154]
05/29/05 20:06:43 Tony_IL: hi Peggy
05/29/05 20:06:56 Tom_in_WI: Have either of you two any experience with hybernizing?
05/29/05 20:06:58 Denise: Hi Peggy.
05/29/05 20:07:05 Tony_IL: no, Tom
05/29/05 20:07:07 Denise: I'm hyridizing streptocarpus, Tom.
05/29/05 20:07:14 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Everyone
05/29/05 20:07:21 Tom_in_WI: Hi Peggy!
05/29/05 20:07:41 Denise: I used to play around with hybridizing violets.
05/29/05 20:08:08 Tom_in_WI: I was wondering if there is someway you could annticipate what would be produced from the crossing.
05/29/05 20:08:53 Denise: There are dominant characteristics in violets, so you can map the dominant and recessive characteristics to anticipate percentages.
05/29/05 20:08:55 Peggy_in_Pa: My first try in hybrizing. I put Cool Mint on Apache Brave
05/29/05 20:08:59 Tony_IL: I'm sure there are dominants and recessive traits. Think there is some info in the files section, Tom
05/29/05 20:09:22 Peggy_in_Pa: I tried tgwo different vagiegated
05/29/05 20:09:39 Tom_in_WI: Sounds like that could take up alot of room!
05/29/05 20:09:40 Peggy_in_Pa: to*
05/29/05 20:09:47 Tony_IL: how did it come out, Peggy
05/29/05 20:10:10 Peggy_in_Pa: just did it two day ago
05/29/05 20:10:26 Tom_in_WI: What, and not results yet!
05/29/05 20:10:30 Tony_IL: let us know what happens
05/29/05 20:10:35 Peggy_in_Pa: LOL
05/29/05 20:10:54 Denise: Are you hybridizing, Tom?
05/29/05 20:11:14 Tom_in_WI: No but I could seem myself getting into that
05/29/05 20:12:40 Denise: If you want variegated plants, you have to use a variegated leaf variety as the SEED-BEARING plant.  The pollen would have to come from the plain leaf variety if you are crossing a plain leaf and variegated leaf & want a percentage of variegated seedlings.
05/29/05 20:13:11 Denise: I like fantasy blossoms and it is a dominant trait - thank goodness!
05/29/05 20:13:29 Peggy_in_Pa: I'm trying for solid color blossom and variegated leaf
05/29/05 20:13:29 Tom_in_WI: Guess that makes sense.  Does the same hold true for colors and blossom types?
05/29/05 20:14:26 Denise: There are dominant colors and recessive colors.  Dr. Jeff Smith produced a chart showing the dominant and recessive blossom characteristics.
05/29/05 20:14:43 Denise: It was in AV magazine - do you get the AV magazine?
05/29/05 20:14:52 Tom_in_WI: Is the chart on the internet?
05/29/05 20:15:16 Tom_in_WI: I just took out membership this month
05/29/05 20:15:23 Peggy_in_Pa: I'm judging from our club show, there are not many solid color blossoms. that's why I'm trying for solid color blossoms
05/29/05 20:16:11 Denise: Here is a link to an article on the subject: http://www.laeom.com/guestjeff.htm
05/29/05 20:16:22 Tom_in_WI: Thanks
05/29/05 20:16:24 Peggy_in_Pa: That info is in the files of vr
05/29/05 20:17:14 Tony_IL: Tom, look under files in the AV group and hybridizing.
05/29/05 20:17:39 Tom_in_WI: I'll do that!
05/29/05 20:18:12 Denise: Peggy, Cool Mint - is that a white with green blossom by Lyons?
05/29/05 20:18:22 Tony_IL: Tom, also check out leaves from Pat who does the Buckeyes for new members.
05/29/05 20:18:50 Tony_IL: like 5-10 leaves for shipping charges
05/29/05 20:19:25 Tom_in_WI: Yes, I did that already.  I seem Jana's message.
05/29/05 20:19:49 Tony_IL: price is right
05/29/05 20:19:52 Denise: Peggy, you could end up with a green edged variety with the cross you made, if you are using the Cool Mint that I am thinking of.
05/29/05 20:20:24 Tom_in_WI: Got company, gotta.  Bye
05/29/05 20:20:29 Denise: NIght, Tom
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05/29/05 20:20:34 Tony_IL: later Tom
05/29/05 20:20:48 Peggy_in_Pa: I hope so on the variegation of apache Brave which is Green and pink
05/29/05 20:21:21 Denise: Well, it might not be a solid color, but it sure would be pretty!
05/29/05 20:21:51 Denise: And if it were a double, that would be even better!
05/29/05 20:22:00 Peggy_in_Pa: Both plant were solid colors so I'm hoping for that
05/29/05 20:22:03 Tony_IL: what would happen if you crossed a green/white/pink and a crown variegated?
05/29/05 20:22:09 Judith Logs in [69.9.105.165]
05/29/05 20:22:16 Denise: Well, Cool Mint is edged green, so it is not really a solid.
05/29/05 20:22:17 Tony_IL: hi Judith
05/29/05 20:23:01 Denise: It would depend on which plant was the seed bearing variety, Tony.
05/29/05 20:23:27 Tony_IL: would be a good experiment to do it both ways
05/29/05 20:23:30 Denise: The variegation doesn't go along with the pollen - do you know what I mean?
05/29/05 20:23:52 Judith: Hi Tony,  I've been foolowing the e-mail trail since I joined a few weeks ago but I've never had a chance to get to a chat.  I'm a fifth grade teacher and never seemed to get to the room on time.
05/29/05 20:24:17 Denise: Welcome, Judith
05/29/05 20:24:40 Tony_IL: well Judith, listen to the bells and get on the move LOL
05/29/05 20:24:43 Denise: Judith are you a violet grower already?
05/29/05 20:25:22 Judith: Hi,  I have "kind of" gotten back to Violets after about 30 years back.  sorry Denise I can't see your color too well.
05/29/05 20:26:14 Denise: I didn't know I was colored!
05/29/05 20:26:35 Denise: Oh dear.  I meant my text.
05/29/05 20:27:08 Judith: I don't have any named violets and I'm trying to get the watering down to the perfect way my violets like it before I try to buy a named one.  But I have been learning a lot watcyhing all your e-mails.
05/29/05 20:27:41 Denise: YOu might as well get some named ones now.  Nobody ever gets their watering down to perfection.
05/29/05 20:27:47 Judith: I'm talking about your text too.  Sorry
05/29/05 20:28:34 Dogmom Logs in [12.222.144.10]
05/29/05 20:28:38 Judith: Actually, tony I want to forget bells for a while.
05/29/05 20:29:32 Judith: I just finished planting some New Guinean Impatiens and came back in to see if I could catch this for once.
05/29/05 20:29:35 Denise: Speaking of bells, there are were some interesting semi-miniatures introduced at the Canadian national convention, including some with bell blossoms and variegated foliage.
05/29/05 20:29:54 Tony_IL: well, the chats are Sun., Tues., Wed., and Thurs.  all the same times
05/29/05 20:30:41 Judith: I know but I always seem to come to my computer about an hour too late.  I need to be in a different time zone.
05/29/05 20:30:44 Denise: Watch for the "Morgan's" violets from Canada.  They are really quite lovely.
05/29/05 20:31:07 Judith: Are they a new variety?
05/29/05 20:31:29 Denise: I think the hybridizer will be registering them soon.  Some of them have been around for quite some time but she hasn't registered them yet.
05/29/05 20:31:31 Peggy_in_Pa: Judith where are you
05/29/05 20:31:39 Tony_IL: we can do a leaf swap Denise
05/29/05 20:32:02 Denise: my email is fleurtation@hotmail.com if you want to swap leaves, Tony
05/29/05 20:32:12 Tony_IL: hi Cheryl
05/29/05 20:32:16 Judith: OK, I live in Oklahoma near Tulsa. I've lived here for about 28 years now but I'm originally from Kansas.
05/29/05 20:32:27 Dogmom: Hi Tony :-)
05/29/05 20:32:35 Dogmom: ... and all
05/29/05 20:32:52 Peggy_in_Pa: HI Cheryl
05/29/05 20:32:54 Judith: Dogmom, I love your little ending signature thing.
05/29/05 20:33:18 Denise: I'm curious - what breed of dogs?
05/29/05 20:33:27 Dogmom: Goldens, Denise
05/29/05 20:34:03 Denise: My daughter dreams of owning one of those!
05/29/05 20:34:04 Dogmom: Blaze is 11, Torch is going on 8
05/29/05 20:34:09 Judith: Do you have more than one?
05/29/05 20:34:32 Judith: Whoops the answer came in just as I sent my question.
05/29/05 20:34:54 Denise: It seems dogs and violets go together!
05/29/05 20:35:14 Denise: There should be a survey.  I bet more dog people have violets than cat people.
05/29/05 20:35:26 Dogmom: Judith... at one point we had 6... mostly rescues... when we had an acreage, Now we're in a covenanted subdivision so can only have 2
05/29/05 20:36:03 Judith: Cats too.  At least at my house.  I have one Brittany Mix and several cats.  Does everyone have different colors for a reason?
05/29/05 20:36:05 Dogmom: Denise - I'd have cats too, if I weren't violently allergic to them
05/29/05 20:36:31 Denise: Maybe allergies are the reason it seems more people have dogs.
05/29/05 20:37:02 Judith: I've lived in OK long enough that I have developed allergies but they will just have to shoot me if I ever become allergic to my animals.
05/29/05 20:37:13 Dogmom: Mild allergies to dogs, but I couldn't live without them - rather suffer the allergies LOL!
05/29/05 20:37:27 Judith: They are what get me through my school years anymore.
05/29/05 20:38:22 Denise: Then, you will have to collect violets with puppy names, Judith.  Ness' Puppy Prints, Ness' Puppy Charms, etc.
05/29/05 20:38:38 Dogmom: Tony  - as the resident expert, I have a question for you.
05/29/05 20:38:54 Tony_IL: I'll give it a try
05/29/05 20:38:55 Judith: I've taught for 19 years and the last five have been in private but even that is becoming more stressy than I care for sometimes.
05/29/05 20:39:20 Dogmom: Is it normal for what's supposed to be a fantasy to not show its fantasy markings on the first blooming?
05/29/05 20:39:46 Dogmom: I have a Quiet Riot that's blooming pure blue.
05/29/05 20:40:10 Tony_IL: I think so. I also had one that had a solid color and the fantasy bloom on the same stem. LOL
05/29/05 20:40:24 Dogmom: Denise... I've thought about collecting the puppy names LOL!
05/29/05 20:40:48 Dogmom: Makes me feel better, Tony, Thanks
05/29/05 20:40:56 Judith: You mean there are violets out there with puppy names?
05/29/05 20:41:44 Dogmom: Nose Prints, Puppy Prints, Puppy Charms and more
05/29/05 20:41:45 Tony_IL: Wit until the 2nd time around and see if the spots appear
05/29/05 20:42:01 Tony_IL: *Wait
05/29/05 20:42:20 Peggy_in_Pa: I must go phone call from Fla. Will chat on Tue
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05/29/05 20:42:51 Judith: So, a fantasy plant show splashes of color, or is nto solid?
05/29/05 20:43:13 Judith: My thoughts are ahead of my fingers tonight, sorry
05/29/05 20:43:18 Dogmom: I've gotta go too... mostly just dropped in to say "hi" and wish everyone a good long weekend
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05/29/05 20:43:53 Tony_IL: fantasy looks like you took a toothbrush dipped in a different color and splatter the blossom
05/29/05 20:44:27 Denise: I just got called away, so will have to try and catch you later.
05/29/05 20:44:30 Judith: Oh, I bought one like that from Lowe's becasue I like the dark purple splashed onto the pink petals.
05/29/05 20:44:31 Denise: Night
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05/29/05 20:44:55 Tony_IL: diffenent fantasy blooms also. Some with distinct makrings and some look blurred
05/29/05 20:45:22 Tony_IL: was it labelled?
05/29/05 20:45:40 Judith: I think I've been reall lucky or jsut very fortunate because I haven't had  , No  not labeled
05/29/05 20:46:05 Tony_IL: bummer
05/29/05 20:46:10 Judith: But I keep reading about everyone havein trouble with bugs, Is that common?
05/29/05 20:46:48 Judith: I've never had a labeled one although several of mine had the Optimara label but no name.
05/29/05 20:47:14 Tony_IL: Bugs come and go. Depends on where you live I think. I have thrips, mealies
05/29/05 20:47:31 Judith: What is a "Wasp" and a "Bustle?"
05/29/05 20:47:55 Tony_IL: Best to get some kind of systemic and be preventive
05/29/05 20:48:10 Judith: I'd be in touble with either of those creatures because of time.
05/29/05 20:48:45 Tony_IL: wasp is a bloom type and bustle is a leaf type.
05/29/05 20:49:52 Judith: Oops, now I just got a call.  I'll try to get back again.  This hads been nice.  Thanks for visiting.
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