05/24/05 19:17:27 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
05/24/05 19:17:30 Clare_KS Logs Out
05/24/05 19:40:18 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.146.194.135]
05/24/05 19:41:15 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
05/24/05 19:41:25 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Clare!
05/24/05 19:41:29 Clare_KS: Hi Jana
05/24/05 19:41:38 Jana_in_Indiana: you're early!
05/24/05 19:41:44 Clare_KS: My ac adaptor is giving up the ghost...I have a new one on the way,
05/24/05 19:41:51 Clare_KS: but never know how long I'll be on :)
05/24/05 19:42:37 Jana_in_Indiana: that doesn't sound like fun!   *)
05/24/05 19:46:37 Jana_in_Indiana: Clare, you still here?
05/24/05 19:46:42 Clare_KS: yes
05/24/05 19:46:54 Clare_KS: until my battery leaves me ;)
05/24/05 19:47:34 Jana_in_Indiana: why can't you plug it into a wall outlet?
05/24/05 19:47:49 Clare_KS: the ac adaptor is what is broken
05/24/05 19:47:57 Jana_in_Indiana: is it a lap top?
05/24/05 19:48:02 Clare_KS: the plug part is shorting out.
05/24/05 19:48:04 Clare_KS: yes
05/24/05 19:48:16 Clare_KS: I have a new one ordered, thought it would be here today.
05/24/05 19:48:17 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, now I understand!
05/24/05 19:49:06 Clare_KS: I want to know how you got started with Cavies
05/24/05 19:50:45 Jana_in_Indiana: my kids joined 4-H when in grade school, saw them being shown at the fair & the rest just snowballed!
05/24/05 19:51:02 Clare_KS: What kind do you breed?
05/24/05 19:51:23 Jana_in_Indiana: we met the president of the state cavy club at the state fair & wham!  Within months I was secretary!
05/24/05 19:51:31 Jana_in_Indiana: my fav. were Abys
05/24/05 19:51:38 Jana_in_Indiana: Abyssinians
05/24/05 19:52:41 Jana_in_Indiana: there are currently 13 approved breeds with more pending
05/24/05 19:52:48 Jana_in_Indiana: here's a link tot he breeds:
05/24/05 19:52:59 Jana_in_Indiana: to the*
05/24/05 19:53:16 del Logs in [70.64.126.225]
05/24/05 19:53:18 Jana_in_Indiana: http://www.acbaonline.com/breeds.html
05/24/05 19:53:25 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi De l!
05/24/05 19:54:02 Jana_in_Indiana: we showed all over the Us & Canada for about 15 years
05/24/05 19:54:02 del: Hi Jana and claire
05/24/05 19:54:11 Clare_KS: Hi Del
05/24/05 19:54:24 Clare_KS: We had a few, Jana, over the years, they were so sweet.
05/24/05 19:55:15 del: talking about dogs ???
05/24/05 19:55:18 Jana_in_Indiana: closest thing to a dog that you can keep in a cage, ours would hear us come in & squeal & beg for treats!  Yes, they are sweet!
05/24/05 19:55:31 Jana_in_Indiana: cavies (guinea pigs), LOL
05/24/05 19:55:47 del: know why dogs make more freinds than people ???
05/24/05 19:55:59 Jana_in_Indiana: no, why?
05/24/05 19:56:17 del: dogs wag their tails instead of there mouths
05/24/05 19:56:36 Jana_in_Indiana: So true!!!
05/24/05 19:57:23 del: I liked your chat on T C jana you covered it good
05/24/05 19:57:28 Jana_in_Indiana: how are you feeling De l?
05/24/05 19:57:34 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Del!
05/24/05 19:57:36 Clare_KS Logs Out
05/24/05 19:57:51 del: with this rain  arthur is giving me trouble
05/24/05 19:57:55 Jana_in_Indiana: Clare is having problems with power for her lap top
05/24/05 19:58:26 Jana_in_Indiana: need to smack arthur into shape!  Maybe use some NSAIDS?
05/24/05 19:58:39 Patty_in_MD Logs in [72.9.0.162]
05/24/05 19:58:44 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Patty!
05/24/05 19:59:10 del: doc got me on pills but there is not many i can use because of salt being as the filler in them
05/24/05 19:59:18 del: Hi Patty
05/24/05 19:59:24 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that's right!
05/24/05 19:59:28 Patty_in_MD: Hi.  This is my first chat in a while.  These are usually too late for me but I'll just have an extra cup of coffee in the morning!
05/24/05 19:59:48 del: good for you patty
05/24/05 19:59:48 Jana_in_Indiana: good idea Patty!
05/24/05 20:00:29 del: patty you got anything you want to discuss tonight ???
05/24/05 20:00:42 Patty_in_MD: Jana, I can't tell you how thrilled I am with all my leaves.  I can't stop looking at them and at the pictures you sent.  I'm just so excited!
05/24/05 20:00:45 Jana_in_Indiana: or ask the expert De l?
05/24/05 20:01:01 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm glad you're pleased!
05/24/05 20:01:47 Jana_in_Indiana: maybe next month the plantlets will be ready to send you!
05/24/05 20:02:14 Jana_in_Indiana: do you want me to go ahead & send the superthrive now in a small box?
05/24/05 20:02:18 del: I ordered a few from Rachel
05/24/05 20:02:26 Jana_in_Indiana: oops, BRB!
05/24/05 20:02:37 Peggy_in_Pa Logs in [207.172.119.154]
05/24/05 20:02:38 Patty_in_MD: Yes, please, Jana.   I sent the money for it in a card today.
05/24/05 20:02:44 del: Hi Peggy
05/24/05 20:03:28 Peggy_in_Pa: HI Del, Jana & Patty
05/24/05 20:03:31 del: brb phone
05/24/05 20:03:45 Patty_in_MD: Del,  I took some leaves off my variegated minis and the white parts of the leaves are turning brown.  Pat Hancock suggested cutting off the brown spots (lack of chlorophyll) but I'm afraid because the leaves are so tiny.  Any suggestions?  Oh, Hi Peggy!
05/24/05 20:05:15 Patty_in_MD: Actually, Jana, you may as well wait to send the Superthrive.  All my leaves are tucked into their pots so I don't need it right away.
05/24/05 20:05:33 Patty_in_MD: How are you, Peggy?
05/24/05 20:05:39 Tony_IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
05/24/05 20:05:47 Patty_in_MD: Hi Tony
05/24/05 20:05:47 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Tony
05/24/05 20:05:51 del: you could try brushing on cinimon (SP) on the brown
05/24/05 20:06:00 del: Hi rooster Tony
05/24/05 20:06:13 Tony_IL: hi Del, Jana, Peggy and Patty
05/24/05 20:06:25 Patty_in_MD: I remember now about the cinnamon.  Good idea!
05/24/05 20:07:09 del: on var. leaves allways try to take leaves with green on them then it is easier to root the leaves and they will get the var when they are older
05/24/05 20:07:33 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Peggy!
05/24/05 20:08:05 Patty_in_MD: Del, I'm curious why you didn't put charcoal in your soil recipe?
05/24/05 20:08:38 Jana_in_Indiana: I've had the same browning happen sometimes, so if the leaf is large enough, i remove the variegation before I put them down, it *seems* to have helped
05/24/05 20:08:54 Peggy_in_Pa: Jana I've been busy with my doll house miniatures this weekend, I need a week of nothing to do
05/24/05 20:09:03 Jana_in_Indiana: me too!
05/24/05 20:09:16 Jana_in_Indiana: let me know where I can purchase that Peggy!  LOL
05/24/05 20:09:20 del: I tried it patty and compared the pot to one with no charcoal and never seen any difference so never use it  to me  charcoal only gives the soil a sweet  smell
05/24/05 20:09:27 Peggy_in_Pa: how can we do that Jana
05/24/05 20:09:49 Jana_in_Indiana: I haven't got that one figured out Peggy, wish I could!
05/24/05 20:10:36 Patty_in_MD: I bought charcoal because it was one of the few things I can actually find here in the boonies!  I could never try Pat Hancock's recipe because of all the exotic ingredients.
05/24/05 20:11:00 Jana_in_Indiana: come to think of it, the last time I had a week of nothing to do, I was in the hospital -- it's NOT worth that!
05/24/05 20:11:22 del: must of felt good Jana LOL
05/24/05 20:11:34 Peggy_in_Pa: No I don't want that Jana
05/24/05 20:11:52 Jana_in_Indiana: felt good being in the hospital?  NO!   :(
05/24/05 20:12:17 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tony, I didn't see you come in!
05/24/05 20:12:37 Tony_IL: back door when you weren't looking
05/24/05 20:12:42 del: sorry everyone  I was so busy last week and never got a chance to  answer  questions about my soil mix but seen frank did a relly good job for me
05/24/05 20:12:42 Jana_in_Indiana: your check arrived for postage, thanks!
05/24/05 20:12:58 Tony_IL: thanks for your help.
05/24/05 20:13:00 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, he did
05/24/05 20:13:14 Jana_in_Indiana: still haven't heard from Sophie!
05/24/05 20:13:15 Tony_IL: Source for coarse perlite??
05/24/05 20:13:26 Patty_in_MD: I'm still not sure I bought the right "iron." It's a liquid.
05/24/05 20:13:39 del: up here Tony wal mart or home depot
05/24/05 20:13:47 Jana_in_Indiana: it was closed when I read your e-mail, I'll call tomorrow, but it weighs more than you'd think!
05/24/05 20:14:29 del: you can use the liquid in the same amounts as the flakes
05/24/05 20:14:38 Tony_IL: local greenhouse ordered "coarse" but it that was coarse the fine stuff must be like flour
05/24/05 20:14:56 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, you could 'sift' the perlite oyu have & put the largest ones in the bottom of the pots
05/24/05 20:15:11 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, flour!
05/24/05 20:15:43 del: that would be really fine perlite then Tony
05/24/05 20:15:43 Jana_in_Indiana: or try a piece of paper towel in the bottom, that'll keep the soil in
05/24/05 20:15:45 Tony_IL: think I'll keep looking. Just need it for the bottom of the pots. The other works in     the soil mix
05/24/05 20:16:07 Patty_in_MD: There's been discussion again about the Jack's Classic fertilizer.  I can't remember why you all like it so much.  No urea? Or was it something else?
05/24/05 20:16:37 Jana_in_Indiana: you can order some from Violet Showcase, about 1.50 for a gallon bag & it IS coarse
05/24/05 20:16:56 Tony_IL: OK, thanks
05/24/05 20:17:05 del: when looking to buy a fert try to find out what the filler is and if there is filler in it
05/24/05 20:17:06 Jana_in_Indiana: the Jack's bloom booster doesn't have urea
05/24/05 20:17:31 Jana_in_Indiana: which fillers are good?  Bad?
05/24/05 20:18:05 del: no filler is the best but watch some use even  salt as a filler
05/24/05 20:18:48 del: also seen fine perlite as a filler in fert
05/24/05 20:18:50 Patty_in_MD: I'm also a little confused about the numbers.  Is it best to have all three about the same, or a higher middle number?  Is it different for variegateds?
05/24/05 20:19:00 Jana_in_Indiana: I was checking out Gardens Alive's fert's & was amazed to see they don't even list the NPK numbers, much less anything else, all they say it it's organic!
05/24/05 20:19:20 Jana_in_Indiana: fine perlite?  Wouldn't it float?
05/24/05 20:19:47 del: yes a 20-20 20 or 15-30-15 is a good fert both of these are what is called a balance fert
05/24/05 20:20:01 del: yes it does jana
05/24/05 20:20:07 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
05/24/05 20:20:12 Tony_IL: probably wouldn't notice if using 1/4 tsp / gallon
05/24/05 20:20:44 Patty_in_MD: Do you use fish emulsion?
05/24/05 20:21:04 del: you would think it was nitrigen small particles  Tony
05/24/05 20:21:12 Tony_IL: what does the fish emulsion have in it?
05/24/05 20:21:23 Jana_in_Indiana: I do, switch off to get an assortment of fertilizers
05/24/05 20:21:27 Jana_in_Indiana: FISH!
05/24/05 20:21:36 Shellie_NM Logs in [68.35.120.27]
05/24/05 20:21:42 Patty_in_MD: Hi Shellie!
05/24/05 20:21:43 Tony_IL: hi Shellie
05/24/05 20:21:47 Shellie_NM: Good evening everyone
05/24/05 20:21:54 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Shellie!
05/24/05 20:22:01 del: Hi Sheilie
05/24/05 20:22:01 Tony_IL: Fish, like carp, bass, or what? LOL
05/24/05 20:22:16 Deb_-_Aussie Logs in [203.217.43.62]
05/24/05 20:22:19 Jana_in_Indiana: FE bottle says 5-1-1
05/24/05 20:22:22 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Deb!
05/24/05 20:22:26 Patty_in_MD: I used to use fish emulsion in my outdoor garden and the plants seemed to love it.  I'm not sure what kind of fish, but there's definitely fish in it!
05/24/05 20:22:27 Tony_IL: hi Deb
05/24/05 20:22:28 Shellie_NM: Hi Deb
05/24/05 20:22:34 Patty_in_MD: Hi Deb!
05/24/05 20:22:41 del: Hi Deb
05/24/05 20:22:42 Deb_-_Aussie: Hi everyone!...I have ducked in while I am on my break at work....naughty girl
05/24/05 20:22:48 Jana_in_Indiana: & says primary nutrients derived from seagoing fish
05/24/05 20:23:03 Deb_-_Aussie: but I had a newbie question I wanted to ask the experts
05/24/05 20:23:07 del: some use cut up fine fish heads even in the fert
05/24/05 20:23:37 Tony_IL: go for it Deb
05/24/05 20:23:56 Jana_in_Indiana: I figured it was the pasts of the fish they couldn't sell, guts, fins & heads
05/24/05 20:23:57 Deb_-_Aussie: It is getting very cold here...and I still don't have a light stand ste up for my avs...we are moving house in september, so I will do with what I have until then
05/24/05 20:24:24 Deb_-_Aussie: my question is...I have noticed that the plants have slowed down in growth...not blooming as much...and I know some of them are due for re-potting
05/24/05 20:24:25 Jana_in_Indiana: I meant parts (not pasts)
05/24/05 20:24:49 Deb_-_Aussie: with the plants in a'dormant' phase....is it still ok to repot?
05/24/05 20:25:31 del: yes go ahead and repot
05/24/05 20:25:50 Tony_IL: think the lower temps may be a factor
05/24/05 20:26:12 del: are they on a window sill ????
05/24/05 20:26:20 Deb_-_Aussie: cool...and it is okay to harvest babies and put into their own pot too?...have to lots of babies that need seperating from mum
05/24/05 20:26:24 Deb_-_Aussie: yes...they are
05/24/05 20:26:35 Deb_-_Aussie: on the window sill
05/24/05 20:27:05 del: could be they slowed down form a cool draught coming in the window
05/24/05 20:27:31 Becca,IN Logs in [71.98.85.213]
05/24/05 20:27:36 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Becca!
05/24/05 20:27:38 Shellie_NM: hi Becca
05/24/05 20:27:44 Tony_IL: hi Becca
05/24/05 20:27:47 Becca,IN: hi all
05/24/05 20:27:53 Patty_in_MD: Hi Becca!
05/24/05 20:27:57 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.129.238.2]
05/24/05 20:28:01 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sherry!
05/24/05 20:28:04 Tony_IL: hi Sherry
05/24/05 20:28:05 Deb_-_Aussie: i do have that window open...might have to open the other one a little
05/24/05 20:28:11 Shellie_NM: hi Sherry
05/24/05 20:28:28 sherry__(Mo): Hi!! Sorry I'm so late
05/24/05 20:28:33 del: yopu could take pieces of styfoam and put 1 under the pot and one on its side aggainst the  window  just a little higher than the pots this could help you out
05/24/05 20:28:33 Jana_in_Indiana: Deb, you don't want a cool draft to go on the AV's
05/24/05 20:28:57 paula0103 Logs in [12.223.195.199]
05/24/05 20:29:03 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Paula!
05/24/05 20:29:07 Shellie_NM: hi PAULA
05/24/05 20:29:07 Tony_IL: hi Paula
05/24/05 20:29:07 sherry__(Mo): Hi Paula
05/24/05 20:29:16 paula0103: Hi Everyone!
05/24/05 20:29:30 Deb_-_Aussie: okay...i will give that a go....i ended up having to put shade cloth behind them a while back...now i have to keep em warm!...
05/24/05 20:29:31 del: up here in winter I got to use the styrfoam on the windows because it gets so cold here in winter
05/24/05 20:29:51 Deb_-_Aussie: not quite that cold here in Melbourne....but can get very frosty in the mronings
05/24/05 20:29:59 Jana_in_Indiana: that's because you live next door to Santa De l!
05/24/05 20:30:03 del: feel the pot it will tell you if it is to cold for the plants
05/24/05 20:30:22 del: yes I am so lucky Jana LOL
05/24/05 20:30:33 Deb_-_Aussie: i did do that and they were quite cool
05/24/05 20:30:47 Deb_-_Aussie: can't wait to get my light set up i can tell you!
05/24/05 20:30:52 Becca,IN: hi paula
05/24/05 20:30:56 del: I have  3 windowsills full of violets here winter and summer
05/24/05 20:31:07 paula0103: Hi Becca, how are your babies?
05/24/05 20:31:08 Jana_in_Indiana: it does sound like they're getting chilled
05/24/05 20:31:16 Becca,IN: \doing good your's?
05/24/05 20:31:25 paula0103: Looking pretty good!
05/24/05 20:31:32 Becca,IN: :)
05/24/05 20:31:38 Deb_-_Aussie: hahahaha...just had an image of me knitting pot holders for my chilly avs!...Allyn would truly think me mad then!
05/24/05 20:31:53 Becca,IN: they are all tuked away in there snug little bed
05/24/05 20:32:01 del: LOL Deb
05/24/05 20:32:03 sherry__(Mo): LOL Deb!
05/24/05 20:32:08 paula0103: Mine too
05/24/05 20:32:13 Deb_-_Aussie: :D
05/24/05 20:32:14 Jana_in_Indiana: use the styrofoam as De l said, that should help a lot!
05/24/05 20:32:22 del: Hi sherry missed you coming on board
05/24/05 20:32:27 Deb_-_Aussie: i will
05/24/05 20:32:27 Becca,IN: do you try to re plant them
05/24/05 20:32:40 sherry__(Mo): Sister wouldn't get off the phone Del!!
05/24/05 20:32:43 paula0103: A few of them, not all
05/24/05 20:32:55 del: glad you got here sherry
05/24/05 20:33:04 Jana_in_Indiana: LOl Sherry!
05/24/05 20:33:05 Becca,IN: yeah same here will re pot maybe tommorow i seperated some of the babies
05/24/05 20:33:10 Becca,IN: what a night mare
05/24/05 20:33:13 Becca,IN: lol
05/24/05 20:33:16 Deb_-_Aussie: anyway...it was nice to drop in and catch up with some of you...but have a busy day still ahead of me
05/24/05 20:33:22 paula0103: I haven't gotten that brave yet
05/24/05 20:33:25 Jana_in_Indiana: bye Deb!
05/24/05 20:33:36 del: night deb thanks for coming
05/24/05 20:33:40 Tony_IL: have a good day Deb
05/24/05 20:33:46 Jana_in_Indiana: De l, Paula & Becca met Dogmom cheryl
05/24/05 20:33:50 sherry__(Mo): Bye Deb
05/24/05 20:33:51 Deb_-_Aussie: :)
05/24/05 20:33:53 Deb_-_Aussie Logs Out
05/24/05 20:34:00 sherry__(Mo): Good Jana!!
05/24/05 20:34:07 paula0103: Dogman Cheryl is a wonderful person!
05/24/05 20:34:18 Becca,IN: yes we had a great time
05/24/05 20:34:20 Jana_in_Indiana: & brought home babies!!
05/24/05 20:34:33 Becca,IN: cute little babies
05/24/05 20:34:33 Jana_in_Indiana: did you take any pictures?
05/24/05 20:34:37 paula0103: Very cute!
05/24/05 20:34:47 paula0103: No pics, maybe next time
05/24/05 20:35:01 Jana_in_Indiana: we need photos to share!  ;)
05/24/05 20:35:01 Becca,IN: :( yeah maybe next tme
05/24/05 20:35:02 Patty_in_MD: I separated some babies a couple of weeks ago.  I very impatiently waited for most of them to get dime sized.  I potted the littler ones, too, but they aren't doing well even though their roots were pretty healthy looking.
05/24/05 20:35:33 sherry__(Mo): are they covered?
05/24/05 20:35:40 del: did you cover them for awhile so  they never stressed on you
05/24/05 20:35:44 Jana_in_Indiana: Becca, you have a Gordon's Food Service there!  You can get ANY sized solo cups
05/24/05 20:35:53 paula0103: How long can they be ok without being separated?
05/24/05 20:35:58 Jana_in_Indiana: in the Walmart parking lot by I-65
05/24/05 20:36:00 Becca,IN: I can?
05/24/05 20:36:05 Patty_in_MD: I was afraid to let the bigger ones get too big thinking they'd be tough to untangle.  Next time I'll impatiently wait a little longer.  They are covered and still hanging in.
05/24/05 20:36:19 Jana_in_Indiana: Becca, you're in Lafayette, right?
05/24/05 20:36:33 paula0103: Yes she is
05/24/05 20:36:35 Becca,IN: awsome  i was looking at bennets today and they are going to see if they can order me the 2 inch pots
05/24/05 20:36:37 del: the longer you wait to seperate I found it was easier to do
05/24/05 20:36:47 Patty_in_MD: Wow, thanks, Del!
05/24/05 20:36:48 Becca,IN: yes i like in laugh a lot indiana lol
05/24/05 20:36:55 Tony_IL: take out the big one (s) and leave the little ones sit until later
05/24/05 20:36:59 Becca,IN: oops live in laugh a lot indiana
05/24/05 20:37:00 paula0103: Becca how many different light systems do they have a Bennetts?
05/24/05 20:37:10 Becca,IN: just the one
05/24/05 20:37:28 Jana_in_Indiana: Gordons is on the right hand side as you enter the lot, before oyu get to Walmart!  Go there!  1 oz. solo cups, 250 to a bag, about $3.50 I think
05/24/05 20:37:32 Becca,IN: it's like 78.00
05/24/05 20:37:42 paula0103: ok
05/24/05 20:37:42 Becca,IN: i think it some kine of green grow system
05/24/05 20:38:15 paula0103: You guys are there any kind of growing lights that don't cost a fortune to operate?
05/24/05 20:38:25 Becca,IN: yeah
05/24/05 20:38:27 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, shop lights!
05/24/05 20:38:31 Becca,IN: a bunch
05/24/05 20:38:40 paula0103: Shop lights?
05/24/05 20:38:56 sherry__(Mo): Yep-at Walmart
05/24/05 20:38:57 Becca,IN: like you find in your dad's shop   (well maybe)
05/24/05 20:38:59 Jana_in_Indiana: from hardware stores or Walmart, Lowes, etc
05/24/05 20:39:03 Jana_in_Indiana: yup!
05/24/05 20:39:03 del: flourescent lights
05/24/05 20:39:04 Tony_IL: ask you hubby. 2 bulbs/lite
05/24/05 20:39:31 del: even look in the paper for good used ones they are cheaper that way
05/24/05 20:39:37 Tony_IL: 4 foot long
05/24/05 20:39:39 paula0103: No hubby, no dad with shop  :(
05/24/05 20:39:44 Patty_in_MD: I thought I was clever by having hubby install hard wired lights under my cabinets.  They look great but have to be manually turned on and off. No timers because they're hard wired. :(
05/24/05 20:39:55 Becca,IN: ok here is what i would do
05/24/05 20:40:05 Jana_in_Indiana: go to the hardware & ask them to show you the shop lights, cost about $10
05/24/05 20:40:17 Becca,IN: sice you live with you parents and i know how that goes
05/24/05 20:40:29 del: hard wired ????? please explain
05/24/05 20:40:43 Becca,IN: wired into the wall del
05/24/05 20:40:46 Jana_in_Indiana: no plug in, wired to the outlet
05/24/05 20:40:47 Becca,IN: not a plug in
05/24/05 20:40:52 Patty_in_MD: Paula, I also bought some lights from Lowe's that had a plug in cord.  They take 2 screws to install under a cabinet or can be tied to whatever you want to hang them from. And you can put them on a timer because they have a cord.
05/24/05 20:41:03 del: ok got you
05/24/05 20:41:06 Tony_IL: wired to a wall switch, DEl. Not a type you plug into the wall
05/24/05 20:41:14 paula0103: Oh thanks!
05/24/05 20:41:25 Becca,IN: paula if you want the next time you are up I wil take you to wal mart and help you get the stuff you need
05/24/05 20:41:28 Jana_in_Indiana: how long Patty?
05/24/05 20:41:42 paula0103: That would be good Becca :)
05/24/05 20:41:45 Patty_in_MD: How long for what, Jana?
05/24/05 20:41:49 Becca,IN: :)
05/24/05 20:41:57 Jana_in_Indiana: the lights from Lowes, how long are they?
05/24/05 20:42:06 Becca,IN: i belive that i could even get my husband to make a stand like mine for you
05/24/05 20:42:18 paula0103: REALLY?????????
05/24/05 20:42:25 Patty_in_MD: Let me run and measure real quick.
05/24/05 20:42:42 Jana_in_Indiana: Paula & Becca, please e-mail your phone #'s to me so i can call next time I'm in town?
05/24/05 20:42:48 Jana_in_Indiana: CrazyCavy@aol.com
05/24/05 20:42:51 Peggy_in_Pa: I got to go, Phone call from Fla.
05/24/05 20:42:56 Peggy_in_Pa Logs Out
05/24/05 20:43:00 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Peggy!
05/24/05 20:43:03 del: night peggy
05/24/05 20:43:33 paula0103: Ok Jana, will do.
05/24/05 20:43:37 Patty_in_MD: They're 24 inches and fit under a regular sized kitchen cabinet.
05/24/05 20:43:40 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks!
05/24/05 20:43:49 sherry__(Mo): Nite Peggy
05/24/05 20:43:58 Patty_in_MD: The plug in ones were cheaper than the hard wire ones, too.
05/24/05 20:44:14 Becca,IN: just sent you mine jana
05/24/05 20:44:16 Jana_in_Indiana: I used that kind in my mini greenhouse, 2 per shelf
05/24/05 20:44:24 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks!
05/24/05 20:45:08 Becca,IN: paula you could also go and get untility shelves they work really good and jsut attach the lights under the shelves the screws with pop out of the upper shelves but it will be ok
05/24/05 20:45:22 Patty_in_MD: Do you fertilize variegated violets any differently than regular ones?  Is the light requirements any different for them?
05/24/05 20:45:28 paula0103: ok
05/24/05 20:45:44 del: check at wal mart they  sometimes have shelves for sale
05/24/05 20:45:57 Becca,IN: I would love to go and get the kind like cheryel has but don't have the money:(
05/24/05 20:46:08 paula0103: I know what you mean
05/24/05 20:46:34 Patty_in_MD: This violet thing is pretty darned pricey.  Don't be fooled by your first $4 noid from Walmart!
05/24/05 20:46:35 sherry__(Mo): what kind does Cheryl have?
05/24/05 20:46:44 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL Patty!
05/24/05 20:46:49 Becca,IN: have you ever seen the heat lamps that they use for litle chicks?
05/24/05 20:47:01 del: on var violets mine are watered same as others but are on the lower shelf or on the window  sill
05/24/05 20:47:18 sherry__(Mo): I haven't Becca
05/24/05 20:47:21 Jana_in_Indiana: lower shelves are a bit cooler
05/24/05 20:47:27 Patty_in_MD: So variegated like less light?
05/24/05 20:47:46 Becca,IN: well they make grow lights that  will fit in lamps like that
05/24/05 20:47:49 del: they like cooler conditions
05/24/05 20:47:52 sherry__(Mo): Cooler te,perature
05/24/05 20:48:01 Patty_in_MD: Oh!
05/24/05 20:48:02 Jana_in_Indiana: one difference Patty is, when growing babies, don't remove from momma till babies are at least 50% green or they'll just die
05/24/05 20:48:24 Patty_in_MD: Thanks.  I've got a couple very pale ones right now.
05/24/05 20:48:29 Becca,IN: does noid stand for no name?
05/24/05 20:48:35 Jana_in_Indiana: No ID
05/24/05 20:48:38 del: I leave them alone till they green up before seperating
05/24/05 20:48:47 Becca,IN: awww thanks lol
05/24/05 20:48:57 Jana_in_Indiana: pale ones are babies on momma or plantlets?
05/24/05 20:49:08 Patty_in_MD: Babies on momma.
05/24/05 20:49:25 Jana_in_Indiana: leaves how big?
05/24/05 20:49:31 Becca,IN: how much light do the babies need same as leafs?  or more
05/24/05 20:49:45 Patty_in_MD: Too small to separate.  Good question, Becca!
05/24/05 20:50:15 del: could give them a couple of waterings with epsom salts just go a little lighter on the epsom salts say 1 TSP per gallon of water
05/24/05 20:50:16 Jana_in_Indiana: mine get the same if they're lucky & there's room on the shelf!  ;)
05/24/05 20:50:30 sherry__(Mo): LOL-same here Jan
05/24/05 20:50:35 sherry__(Mo): "Jana"
05/24/05 20:50:46 Patty_in_MD: Does the epsom salts help green them up?
05/24/05 20:50:51 Becca,IN: ok  just wondering  ;)
05/24/05 20:51:00 Jana_in_Indiana: it's OK sherry, I understood!   :p
05/24/05 20:51:03 del: yes it does patty
05/24/05 20:51:11 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Patty, so does FE
05/24/05 20:51:16 sherry__(Mo): thanks Jana!!
05/24/05 20:51:28 Jana_in_Indiana: Fish Emulsion
05/24/05 20:52:06 Patty_in_MD: So I probably wouldn't use epsom or FE on grown up variegateds?
05/24/05 20:52:23 Jana_in_Indiana: Patty, remind me & I'll put a small bottle of FE in your box too!
05/24/05 20:52:24 del: sure you can  Patty
05/24/05 20:52:37 Jana_in_Indiana: I do
05/24/05 20:53:00 Patty_in_MD: Thanks, Jana, but I was actually able to find FE here.  If I use it on variegateds, wouldn't they lose their variegation?
05/24/05 20:53:24 Jana_in_Indiana: this FE says it deodorized, but in my opinion, the deodorizer all evaporated the first time it was opened!
05/24/05 20:53:37 sherry__(Mo): ;)
05/24/05 20:53:56 Patty_in_MD: I'm afraid my kitty will be VERY attracted to my avs if I used the FE!
05/24/05 20:54:10 Becca,IN: eekkk don't want that
05/24/05 20:54:19 Becca,IN: no kitty bad kitty
05/24/05 20:54:37 Jana_in_Indiana: no Patty, it's just a weak fertilizer, 5-1-1, safe for babies & plants
05/24/05 20:54:38 Patty_in_MD: He's sweet and tries to "help!"
05/24/05 20:54:55 Becca,IN: i hear every one having problems with there cats eating there av;s mine don't bother them
05/24/05 20:55:10 paula0103: you are lucky
05/24/05 20:55:37 Becca,IN: now they had riddled my spider plants
05/24/05 20:55:48 Jana_in_Indiana: my yorkies do notice the Fe & want to sniff it, but don't bother the plants, but everything on the bottom shelf is domed
05/24/05 20:55:53 Patty_in_MD: I have 2 Rob's minis that were variegated pink and white and pale green leaves.  Now they're just kind of pale everything.  I moved them to a window that gets great light and they seem to be looking better.  Any advice?
05/24/05 20:56:16 Jana_in_Indiana: keep them there
05/24/05 20:56:33 del: you did the right thing patty
05/24/05 20:56:50 Jana_in_Indiana: if you do something & the AV improves, keep doing it! ;)
05/24/05 20:56:51 del: also trailers seem to do a lot better on the window sill
05/24/05 20:57:03 sherry__(Mo): I agree Del
05/24/05 20:57:14 del: right sherry
05/24/05 20:57:15 Patty_in_MD: I'm hoping they'll start blooming.  The others I got in that same order that aren't variegated bloom but those don't.
05/24/05 20:58:07 del: are they all the same kind like all standards or semi ???
05/24/05 20:58:30 Jana_in_Indiana: oh Patty!  Send me a list in a few weeks, (once you know the leaves have rooted) of the ones I sent you so I don't send duplicates
05/24/05 20:58:38 del: smi are a little slower to come into bloom
05/24/05 20:59:16 Patty_in_MD: They're all minis.  I thought they were sweet and cute.  But they seem to be a lot fussier, and you should have seen me cutting the suckers off!
05/24/05 20:59:23 del: sorry meant semi are a little slower to bloom
05/24/05 20:59:26 Becca,IN: paula i'm going to send u a pick of my set up to give you ideas
05/24/05 20:59:45 Jana_in_Indiana: semi & mini sucker worse too
05/24/05 20:59:46 paula0103: That would be good.  Do you have my email?
05/24/05 20:59:54 paula0103: medrep50@hotmail.com
05/24/05 21:00:34 del: brb phone
05/24/05 21:00:39 Tony_IL: do you sell medical devices, Paula?
05/24/05 21:00:40 Patty_in_MD: Thanks, Jana, I'll do that and include the ones I just got from Pat, too.  Do you guys all know about Pat's special offer for new AVSA members?  She just sent me a whole box of Buckeye leaves.  How sweet!
05/24/05 21:00:42 Jana_in_Indiana: Paula, your e-mail arrived  Becca, yours has not
05/24/05 21:00:52 Becca,IN: ok
05/24/05 21:01:09 paula0103: No Tony, I used to work in medical accounts but I don't anymore
05/24/05 21:01:27 Tony_IL: I'm an old lab tech
05/24/05 21:01:36 Jana_in_Indiana: Yes, Pat is very kind & caring!  New AVSA members get free leaves from Pat for a small shipping cost
05/24/05 21:01:49 paula0103: Really?  I've worked in the medical field all my adult life
05/24/05 21:02:09 paula0103: Jana, I didn't know that about Pat
05/24/05 21:02:19 Patty_in_MD: Actually, she only asked for $6 but when the box arrived I noticed that it cost her more than that for postage, so please keep that in mind!
05/24/05 21:02:20 Tony_IL: hematology, coag and blood bank
05/24/05 21:02:22 Jana_in_Indiana: what was the cost Patty, I forgot
05/24/05 21:02:45 Jana_in_Indiana: oops, I see your message now!  LOL
05/24/05 21:02:59 Jana_in_Indiana: & how many leaves did you get?
05/24/05 21:03:05 paula0103: Jana, do we have to ask?
05/24/05 21:03:29 Tony_IL: one leaf short of being too many
05/24/05 21:03:43 paula0103: lol
05/24/05 21:03:59 Jana_in_Indiana: no, send her a copy of your AVSa membership, must be a new member since May 1 I think, plus a check or money order for shipping, Patty said that was $6
05/24/05 21:04:01 Patty_in_MD: The box cost $8 to mail and she sent 12 leaves!  I felt a little bad, actually, because I'd hate for her to lose a lot of money on this.  LOL Tony!
05/24/05 21:04:33 Jana_in_Indiana: Patty, send her a check for the $2?
05/24/05 21:04:38 paula0103: Do we send it to her in the mail?
05/24/05 21:04:53 Tony_IL: Right, just send her the difference and you'll feel better
05/24/05 21:04:58 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, I'll call her & get the details again & post it to the groups
05/24/05 21:05:02 sherry__(Mo): Or add a little extra when you order leaves from her-LOL
05/24/05 21:05:13 Patty_in_MD: I sent some extra money and ordered a catalog, too!
05/24/05 21:05:15 Jana_in_Indiana: that'll work too sherry!
05/24/05 21:05:19 paula0103: Thanks Jana, I just got my AVSA membership in the mail Saturday
05/24/05 21:05:49 del: I came back LOL
05/24/05 21:05:53 paula0103: OK now I'm lost.  Where is Pat from?
05/24/05 21:05:59 Patty_in_MD: Jana, I'll forward the e-mail that Millie sent out with all the info to you.  You'll have to add the zip code (I found it on line).
05/24/05 21:06:02 Jana_in_Indiana: Ohio, Middletoen
05/24/05 21:06:19 paula0103: No, I mean, does she own a greenhouse or something?
05/24/05 21:06:40 del: does pat ship up here to Canada ?????
05/24/05 21:06:44 Jana_in_Indiana: I have her address, the zip code is45042
05/24/05 21:07:17 Jana_in_Indiana: she ships all over the world, leaves only, I would think the $6 cost would be more if sent to Canada
05/24/05 21:07:39 del: that is no problem for me Jana
05/24/05 21:07:40 Jana_in_Indiana: she has all her plants indoors in a large room, built for them
05/24/05 21:07:51 Jana_in_Indiana: are you an AVSA member Del?
05/24/05 21:07:58 Patty_in_MD: She owns Pat's Patch and I can't seem to find her on line.  She was even nice enough to call ahead of time to let me know she was sending the box and to watch for it.  She was very nice and gave lots of good advice, too.
05/24/05 21:08:03 del: sure am Jana
05/24/05 21:08:07 Jana_in_Indiana: this offer is only for NEW AVSA members
05/24/05 21:08:39 Jana_in_Indiana: there isn't a website, she doesn't own a computer
05/24/05 21:08:48 Jana_in_Indiana: just a web page w/ her address
05/24/05 21:08:54 del: I know that but wanted to know if she shipped here and does she sell leaves
05/24/05 21:09:00 Jana_in_Indiana: & Joyce has posted some photos
05/24/05 21:09:07 Becca,IN > paula0103: ok i sent you a pic
05/24/05 21:09:12 paula0103 > Becca,IN: ok
05/24/05 21:09:19 Jana_in_Indiana: yes she shhips to Canada & sells leaves
05/24/05 21:09:27 Becca,IN: jana did u get my number
05/24/05 21:09:46 Jana_in_Indiana: nope, LOL
05/24/05 21:09:58 Jana_in_Indiana: even check the spam folder
05/24/05 21:10:37 Jana_in_Indiana: De l, my daughter is scaning & formatting pat catalog so I can send it out on-line as a file
05/24/05 21:10:57 Becca,IN: ok i sent it again
05/24/05 21:10:57 Jana_in_Indiana: the new catalog!  I'll post when she has it for me to send everyone
05/24/05 21:11:02 del: good jana let us know when it is ready
05/24/05 21:11:04 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks becca!
05/24/05 21:11:18 Becca,IN: welcome
05/24/05 21:11:24 Becca,IN queries IP of Jana_in_Indiana
05/24/05 21:11:36 Becca,IN queries IP of Becca,IN
05/24/05 21:11:51 Jana_in_Indiana: I will de l!
05/24/05 21:12:00 del: thanks jana
05/24/05 21:12:07 Patty_in_MD: Yikes, I let the dog out in the pouring rain an hour ago and forgot about her!  BRB
05/24/05 21:12:14 sherry__(Mo): LOL
05/24/05 21:12:22 Becca,IN: lol
05/24/05 21:12:32 paula0103: Jana do you belong to an AV group in Indy?
05/24/05 21:12:34 del: one soggy pup coming in
05/24/05 21:12:35 Jana_in_Indiana: lol  :p
05/24/05 21:13:02 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, but it's so small, they just have a sale 2 X a year, no shows no judging
05/24/05 21:13:21 paula0103: Are the sales worth going to?
05/24/05 21:13:36 sherry__(Mo): bummer Jana-maybe you can change that!!
05/24/05 21:13:57 Jana_in_Indiana: umm, not really, but the mealy bugs were free!   :<
05/24/05 21:14:09 paula0103: :o
05/24/05 21:14:12 sherry__(Mo): oh real bummer!
05/24/05 21:14:26 Becca,IN: :o
05/24/05 21:14:37 Becca,IN: i don't think i will by from there
05/24/05 21:14:38 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm so grateful for Pat telling & preaching to me about isolating & sealing it air tight!  Otherwise, those buggers would have gone everywhere!
05/24/05 21:15:20 Jana_in_Indiana: you run the same risk when getting AV from anyone or anywhere!
05/24/05 21:15:24 paula0103: Did someone bring them to the party or did they just crash it?
05/24/05 21:15:29 Jana_in_Indiana: LOl
05/24/05 21:15:45 Jana_in_Indiana: they were in an AV I bought at the sale
05/24/05 21:15:52 Jana_in_Indiana: Mindi Morn
05/24/05 21:16:12 paula0103: I hope I never see them
05/24/05 21:16:46 Jana_in_Indiana: I didn't actually see them, saw the webbing all over the inside of the pot & on the soil & knew it was them!
05/24/05 21:16:56 paula0103: yuck
05/24/05 21:16:58 Becca,IN: :<  go away mealy bug don't be eating my poor av's
05/24/05 21:17:24 Jana_in_Indiana: seriously, you DO run the risk of bringing in bugs any & EVERY time you bring home a new plant!
05/24/05 21:18:04 Jana_in_Indiana: that's where isolation comes in!
05/24/05 21:18:14 sherry__(Mo): You can even bring them in on your clothes from outside
05/24/05 21:18:20 Jana_in_Indiana: right!
05/24/05 21:18:25 del: thats why we wash and isolate all new plants/leaves when we get them
05/24/05 21:18:32 paula0103: I'm running out of places to isolate them!
05/24/05 21:18:34 Jana_in_Indiana: or your pets can have them on their hair/fur
05/24/05 21:18:55 Becca,IN: cheryl told u about being carfull about where we by our av's
05/24/05 21:19:35 Patty_in_MD: You should see all my leaves in their baggies.  They look like some weird science experiment.  I ran out of room at home and took some to work and someone there called me a geek!
05/24/05 21:19:44 Jana_in_Indiana: careful won't do it!  Most people try to be careful!  Bugs don't care how careful you are!  LOL!
05/24/05 21:19:46 Becca,IN: oops i ment us
05/24/05 21:20:08 Becca,IN: please for give me i get into a hurry and miss type
05/24/05 21:20:10 paula0103: I tell you the ones I bought on Ebay are the pretties ones I have
05/24/05 21:20:20 Jana_in_Indiana: we all do Becca!  lol
05/24/05 21:20:38 Becca,IN: i saw pics of them paula they are pretty
05/24/05 21:21:01 del: well folks chance of frost so gotta go  water then close up the greenhouse
05/24/05 21:21:12 Tony_IL: nite Del
05/24/05 21:21:14 del: night all and thanks for the great chat time
05/24/05 21:21:14 sherry__(Mo): I loke to repot as soon as I bring new ones home-to check them out and so they can get used to my soil mix (with a systemic in it) and I still isolate
05/24/05 21:21:16 paula0103: I must go too.  Thanks for all the info
05/24/05 21:21:21 Jana_in_Indiana: all youhave to do is get some trays & domes, water the AV's, place on newspapers for an hour or 2 to get out excess moisture, then
05/24/05 21:21:22 Patty_in_MD: Thanks for all your help tonight, Del!  Nice chatting with you!
05/24/05 21:21:25 sherry__(Mo): Take care Del!!!
05/24/05 21:21:31 Jana_in_Indiana: place the dome on & tape it to seal it
05/24/05 21:21:37 Tony_IL: night Paula
05/24/05 21:21:37 Becca,IN: not a problem  night paula
05/24/05 21:21:38 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite De l!
05/24/05 21:21:43 paula0103 Logs Out
05/24/05 21:21:45 del Logs Out
05/24/05 21:21:46 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite paula!
05/24/05 21:21:48 sherry__(Mo): Nite Paul
05/24/05 21:22:08 Becca,IN: well i need to go before hubby kicks me off here
05/24/05 21:22:17 sherry__(Mo): Nite Becca
05/24/05 21:22:20 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite becca!
05/24/05 21:22:21 Becca,IN: night
05/24/05 21:22:23 Patty_in_MD: Well, I'm up way past my bedtime.  Thanks everyone.  I'm going to try to do this again at least once a week!  Good night!
05/24/05 21:22:30 Becca,IN Logs Out
05/24/05 21:22:31 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Patty!
05/24/05 21:22:35 sherry__(Mo): Guess I'll leave the party too!!
05/24/05 21:22:42 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Sherry!
05/24/05 21:22:45 Patty_in_MD: Good night, Jana. Again, many thanks!
05/24/05 21:22:48 Patty_in_MD Logs Out
05/24/05 21:22:50 Jana_in_Indiana: Shellie, you here?
05/24/05 21:23:02 sherry__(Mo): Take care Tony, Jana, and Shellie!!
05/24/05 21:23:06 Shellie_NM: yes I am here
05/24/05 21:23:10 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out
05/24/05 21:23:21 Jana_in_Indiana: start spraying/diping yet?
05/24/05 21:23:53 Shellie_NM: I made a decision today.  I don't have enough time or energy to do the Avid now before I move.
05/24/05 21:24:31 Shellie_NM: I will dip them as I unpack my AVs.
05/24/05 21:24:33 Tony_IL: how many plants, Shellie?
05/24/05 21:24:36 Jana_in_Indiana: I would spray at least once before moving, so you don't take any adults home to spread out
05/24/05 21:24:49 Jana_in_Indiana: if at all possible & spray the stand
05/24/05 21:24:54 Shellie_NM: 100+
05/24/05 21:25:02 Tony_IL: oops
05/24/05 21:25:23 Jana_in_Indiana: it must make you feel overwhelmed!
05/24/05 21:25:31 Shellie_NM: it does.
05/24/05 21:25:41 Jana_in_Indiana: how long till you leave?
05/24/05 21:25:44 Shellie_NM: thats why I will do it at home
05/24/05 21:25:46 Tony_IL: I can associate with that
05/24/05 21:25:50 Shellie_NM: I leave monday
05/24/05 21:26:08 Jana_in_Indiana: wow, that is soon!
05/24/05 21:26:16 Denise Logs in [204.50.10.26]
05/24/05 21:26:21 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Denise!
05/24/05 21:26:22 Shellie_NM: Hi Denise
05/24/05 21:26:24 Tony_IL: hi Denise
05/24/05 21:26:40 Denise: Hi everyone.  Am I ever late!
05/24/05 21:26:45 Shellie_NM: I will dip my AVs before they go into the house
05/24/05 21:27:19 Jana_in_Indiana: don't take any of the packing inside
05/24/05 21:27:35 Jana_in_Indiana: do you have a dishwasher at home?
05/24/05 21:27:41 Shellie_NM: yes
05/24/05 21:28:06 Jana_in_Indiana: I'd run all the unused or new pots thru it just to be sure none are hiding there!
05/24/05 21:28:17 Shellie_NM: good idea
05/24/05 21:28:21 Denise: Are you talking about soil mealies?
05/24/05 21:28:24 Jana_in_Indiana: we're still here Denise, so it doesn't matter, ;)
05/24/05 21:28:31 Jana_in_Indiana: mites
05/24/05 21:29:37 Jana_in_Indiana: any questions Denise?
05/24/05 21:30:01 Denise: No, do you have access to Neem Oil, Shellie?
05/24/05 21:30:04 Shellie_NM: the packing and the sytrofoam boxes that I pack them in will all get bagged and trashed
05/24/05 21:30:14 Jana_in_Indiana: good!
05/24/05 21:30:55 Denise: I was at the national convention of the Canadian AV society in Edmonton, Alberta last weekend.  It was wonderful.
05/24/05 21:30:57 Shellie_NM: Neem Oil won't touch broad mites, Denise  I bought Avid
05/24/05 21:31:17 Jana_in_Indiana: I've been told over & over to be leery about 'club' sales, & look what happened to the only one I've ever got at a club sales table!
05/24/05 21:31:48 Jana_in_Indiana: wow, sounds like a great shhow Denise!  Did you take photos?  have an album?
05/24/05 21:32:36 Denise: I didn't take many photos - I was too busy staring at the plants that I forgot!
05/24/05 21:32:42 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL!
05/24/05 21:32:57 Denise: I bought leaves from Russia, and lots of chimeras.
05/24/05 21:33:13 Shellie_NM: sounds like you had a ball
05/24/05 21:33:20 Jana_in_Indiana: I was so interested in the variegated AV's at convention, I didn't take hardly any photos of the others, LOL
05/24/05 21:33:44 Denise: The guest speakers were wonderful and I learned alot.
05/24/05 21:34:07 Jana_in_Indiana: I only got 1 Russian, it's The Bride, still no description, but it's variegated!  The only Russian that is varieg.
05/24/05 21:34:10 Tony_IL: wonder if the Russians go as crazy over our stuff as we do over theirs?
05/24/05 21:34:16 Jana_in_Indiana: wow were they?
05/24/05 21:34:42 Jana_in_Indiana: probably go crazy over anything that's new, like we do!
05/24/05 21:34:51 Denise: Dr. Bill price, Dale Martens and Vladimir  Kalgin (president of the Russian National AV Society)
05/24/05 21:34:51 Jana_in_Indiana: I mean who were they
05/24/05 21:35:09 Denise: Paul Kroll gave a presenation on design and Carlos Becas gave a presentation on hybridizing AV's
05/24/05 21:35:13 Jana_in_Indiana: good line up!  Learn anything new you can share with us?
05/24/05 21:35:33 Denise: I guess the best thing I learned was how much more I have to learn!
05/24/05 21:35:58 Jana_in_Indiana: yup!  conventions do teach us that!
05/24/05 21:36:28 Denise: There was also quite a stir over plants offered for sale by a Canadian hybridizer, Carol Eros.  She has alot of different semi-mini's under the Alpha name of Morgan's.
05/24/05 21:36:47 Denise: I bought Morgan's Cottage Rose and Morgan's Haywire, but there were alot of different ones.
05/24/05 21:37:03 Denise: I'm hoping she will register them - they are really quite lovely.
05/24/05 21:37:13 Jana_in_Indiana: I don't think I've ever heard of Morgan's
05/24/05 21:37:29 Jana_in_Indiana: BRB
05/24/05 21:38:00 Denise: I don't think she has ever registered any yet.
05/24/05 21:38:37 Tony_IL: buy leaves of the non-chimeras?
05/24/05 21:38:53 Jana_in_Indiana: back
05/24/05 21:39:21 Denise: I only bought leaves of the Russian varieties.
05/24/05 21:39:43 Jana_in_Indiana: Shellie, is there anything you can think of that I might be able to send you that could help you & moving & all?
05/24/05 21:40:00 Jana_in_Indiana: did you happen to be Bride?
05/24/05 21:40:09 Jana_in_Indiana: get*
05/24/05 21:40:53 Shellie_NM: not a thing - I have to have everything packed by Monday morning. thats when the guys are coming to load the uhal trailer
05/24/05 21:40:55 Denise: I have "Just Married", which might be the same one as the Bride, as it is variegated.  I noticed that Vladimir used different terms at different times when he was translating from Russian.  He called one variety Yan-Marietta, and then later called the same
05/24/05 21:40:59 Denise: one Yan-Marietta
05/24/05 21:41:04 Denise: I mean, Yan-Mariann
05/24/05 21:41:33 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, do you have a description?
05/24/05 21:42:13 Jana_in_Indiana: my leaf came from Brownlie at convention
05/24/05 21:42:52 Jana_in_Indiana: only Brownlie & Bluebird greenhouse had the Russian AV leaves, no one had plants yet
05/24/05 21:43:55 Denise: I am sure that is where mine came from, too, and I didn't get all the ones they were offering for sale, so yours might be different.  The blossom is pink, white edged,
05/24/05 21:45:38 Denise: How much were the leaves selling for at the AVSA convention, Jana?
05/24/05 21:45:39 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks!  This was the only variegated Russian either of them had
05/24/05 21:46:03 Jana_in_Indiana: I think $5 or $6?  Something like that!
05/24/05 21:46:39 Denise: I paid $2 Canadian, so I guess I got a pretty good deal.
05/24/05 21:46:58 Jana_in_Indiana: dang!  You sure did!
05/24/05 21:47:45 Jana_in_Indiana: most leaves were $2, some were a bit more if it was 2 per package
05/24/05 21:47:57 Tony_IL: good night ladies. See you later in the week.
05/24/05 21:48:05 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Tony!
05/24/05 21:48:05 Denise: Night, Tony!
05/24/05 21:48:12 Tony_IL Logs Out
05/24/05 21:48:38 Denise: All the leaves were $2 at the Canadian convention, too.
05/24/05 21:48:54 Jana_in_Indiana: how much were your chimeras?
05/24/05 21:49:18 Denise: I paid between $8 and $13 for each of them. But I bought 15!
05/24/05 21:49:34 Jana_in_Indiana: but with the exchange rate, $2 is lots cheaper in Canada, LOL
05/24/05 21:49:47 Jana_in_Indiana: most of the chimera's were $12 at AVSA
05/24/05 21:50:36 Denise: $2 Canadian is about $1.60 US dollars.
05/24/05 21:50:55 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, better deal!  Good for you! ;)
05/24/05 21:51:17 Denise: Are you going to the convention in MInneapollis next year?
05/24/05 21:51:25 Jana_in_Indiana: oh yes!
05/24/05 21:51:32 Jana_in_Indiana: but I'll probably fly
05/24/05 21:51:42 Jana_in_Indiana: you?
05/24/05 21:51:57 Jana_in_Indiana: how about you Shellie?
05/24/05 21:52:17 Shellie_NM: i'd love to
05/24/05 21:52:28 Shellie_NM: time will tell
05/24/05 21:52:29 Denise: I don't think I will attend,but I might make a donation for the awards or silent auctions to support the conventions.
05/24/05 21:52:31 Jana_in_Indiana: then do it!  ;)
05/24/05 21:52:51 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that would be so nice of you Denise!
05/24/05 21:53:26 Denise: I might just be tired of travelling and hotels and could change my mind by next year, though.
05/24/05 21:53:33 Jana_in_Indiana: this year, all my donations went to the sales room, LOL
05/24/05 21:54:10 Denise: I think the sales do help pay for the convention expenses, so you were probably helping more than you know.
05/24/05 21:54:25 Jana_in_Indiana: right!  I'm just now begining to get back to normal (whatever that is) after the ACSA conv -- well, having a friend die right after did mess things up more!
05/24/05 21:54:40 Jana_in_Indiana: I know they have to purchase booth space
05/24/05 21:55:02 Jana_in_Indiana: & in that case, I helped A LOT!  LOL
05/24/05 21:55:03 Denise: And the sponsoring club usually sells plants to raise funds, too.
05/24/05 21:55:21 Jana_in_Indiana: no local club sales this year, all commercial
05/24/05 21:55:26 Denise: I couldn't stay long enough to buy any show plants.
05/24/05 21:55:56 Denise: Otherwise, I would be poorer!
05/24/05 21:55:58 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, it's a pain waiting till the plants are released after the show, but worth it if you can!
05/24/05 21:56:39 Denise: I couldn't believe I was buying as many plants as I did, so that was enough.
05/24/05 21:57:05 Jana_in_Indiana: at AVSA, show AV weren't released till 9 pm Sat evening, cost me another night in the hotel, but still was worth it
05/24/05 21:57:46 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, no one has thrown it up to me, but at first I wasn't going to buy ANY plants or leaves as convention, LOL
05/24/05 21:58:04 Jana_in_Indiana: how many did you bring home total leaves & plants?
05/24/05 21:58:09 Shellie_NM: Best Buy just told me that they are going to exchange out my notebook for a new one since between the 1st and 2nd trip to the repair shop it has been 63 days
05/24/05 21:58:25 Jana_in_Indiana: I brought home 60 leaves, haven't counted the plants yet, LOL
05/24/05 21:58:51 Jana_in_Indiana: Great shellie, copy & save all your stuff first -- to Cd's
05/24/05 21:58:52 Shellie_NM: thats a lot to go into isolation
05/24/05 21:58:57 Denise: I guess I brought home about thirty plants, but I also collect streps and there were quite a few of them there.
05/24/05 21:59:44 Shellie_NM: thats the computer that croaked on me, not my new Dell
05/24/05 21:59:58 Jana_in_Indiana: yes it was Shellie, I ordered a dozen of the perma-nest trays & took them with me (with domes) & soil & everything so they were all set to be placed on shelves when I got home, all sealed tight!
05/24/05 22:00:12 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, ok
05/24/05 22:00:28 Shellie_NM: good thinking
05/24/05 22:00:40 Denise: Yesterday, my order from Belisle's came in - so more strep leaves to set down.  I'm overloaded with them now and have enough.
05/24/05 22:01:07 Jana_in_Indiana: it worked great, but only because we were driving!  It's impossible when flying, unless I hire a private jet!  LOL
05/24/05 22:01:14 Jana_in_Indiana: lol
05/24/05 22:01:16 Denise: Do you grow any of the other gesneriads?
05/24/05 22:01:45 Jana_in_Indiana: I do have 2 espicias, Paul Sorano said they were good indicator plants for thrips/INSV
05/24/05 22:02:11 Jana_in_Indiana: couldn't tell you the names of them, they're still in isolation too!
05/24/05 22:02:11 Shellie_NM: I have 1 streph, 1 charita and 1 xcodenanthus
05/24/05 22:02:43 Denise: I wish I could like them.  But, I just likes violets and streps and nothing else!
05/24/05 22:03:08 Jana_in_Indiana: but personally, I just don't like them that much, too many variegated AV's & not enough room for them all!
05/24/05 22:03:10 Shellie_NM: thats enough
05/24/05 22:04:02 Denise: I think that is enough, and when I hear people talking about the others, I just can't figure out what they see in them.
05/24/05 22:04:14 Jana_in_Indiana: well ladies, I'd better go, got lots to do as usual!
05/24/05 22:04:20 Jana_in_Indiana: me either Denise!
05/24/05 22:04:29 Shellie_NM: good nite Jana and Denise
05/24/05 22:04:33 Denise: I have to run, too.  I still have some strep leaves to set down!
05/24/05 22:04:37 Denise: Night
05/24/05 22:04:37 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Shellie & Denise!
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