05/11/05 19:47:12 Cheryl-TX Logs in [68.94.44.71]
05/11/05 19:51:12 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
05/11/05 19:51:19 Clare_KS: Hi Cheryl
05/11/05 19:51:31 Clare_KS: Weren't Jana's pictures amazing??
05/11/05 19:51:33 Cheryl-TX: Hi how are you doing this evening
05/11/05 19:51:50 Clare_KS: Fine here, how about you?
05/11/05 19:52:10 Cheryl-TX: yes I want to do that so much
05/11/05 19:53:01 Clare_KS: I need a whole 'nuther house to put all this stuff in :)
05/11/05 19:53:41 Cheryl-TX: I have now move into a whole room
05/11/05 19:54:08 Clare_KS: I've done that with some of my hobbies, don't want to go there with this one :)
05/11/05 19:54:12 Cheryl-TX: I  can't keep up with it all during the school year
05/11/05 19:54:20 Clare_KS: I'm trying to keep it under control....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaa
05/11/05 19:54:24 Cheryl-TX: will play violets all summer
05/11/05 19:54:30 Clare_KS: What do you teach?
05/11/05 19:55:49 Cheryl-TX: I am teaching personal family development now and parenting, for students that are parents or are expecting, i used to teach biology, but i like this better
05/11/05 19:57:14 Clare_KS: I can't stand teenagers, I would slit my wrists the first day  lol
05/11/05 19:57:37 Clare_KS: My son-in-law teaches 8th grade, he loves it.
05/11/05 19:58:32 Cheryl-TX: it is a calling
05/11/05 19:58:51 Cheryl-TX: when i don't think it is funny any more i will retire
05/11/05 19:58:59 Clare_KS: yeah, I like working with the babies, a lot of people can't stand babies
05/11/05 19:59:22 Cheryl-TX: i think that would be so much fun also
05/11/05 20:00:31 Cheryl-TX: when my grandson was born a few weeks ago i was a new born nurse who was well into her sixties, and i thought that is what i wish i had done
05/11/05 20:01:22 Clare_KS: I should have done that, or been a doula.
05/11/05 20:01:50 Clare_KS: I'm not strong enough now to take on something that energetic, so I've missed my chance.
05/11/05 20:01:59 Clare_KS: Hindsight, you know :)
05/11/05 20:02:21 Cheryl-TX: What is a doula
05/11/05 20:02:47 Carol_SK Logs in [142.165.188.63]
05/11/05 20:02:52 Clare_KS: They work with women in labor and delivery, sort of a birth coach but more.
05/11/05 20:02:57 Clare_KS: Hi Carol
05/11/05 20:03:00 Cheryl-TX: hi carol
05/11/05 20:03:02 Carol_SK: Hi Clare
05/11/05 20:03:11 Carol_SK: Hi Cheryl
05/11/05 20:03:42 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.152.173.188]
05/11/05 20:03:45 Clare_KS: But my real love is the babies, I worked with handicapped kids birth-5 for a long time.
05/11/05 20:03:49 Clare_KS: Hi Sherry
05/11/05 20:04:01 sherry__(Mo): Hi Caro, Cheryl, and Clare
05/11/05 20:04:01 Carol_SK: Hi Sherry
05/11/05 20:04:35 Cheryl-TX: well if jana doesnt show what should we chat about
05/11/05 20:04:59 Carol_SK: African Violets?  lol
05/11/05 20:05:04 sherry__(Mo): Well chat about Jana-LOL!!
05/11/05 20:05:04 Cheryl-TX: lol
05/11/05 20:05:16 Cheryl-TX: lol
05/11/05 20:05:18 Carol_SK: just kidding
05/11/05 20:05:34 sherry__(Mo): Clare, are you going to the Unpredictables show this weekend?
05/11/05 20:05:42 Clare_KS: Yes
05/11/05 20:05:45 Clare_KS: are you?
05/11/05 20:05:58 Clare_KS: I have to find out how to get there.
05/11/05 20:06:10 sherry__(Mo): Good!! I'm not sure-we put my husband in the hospital Monday
05/11/05 20:06:20 Clare_KS: oh no, what's wrong?
05/11/05 20:06:32 sherry__(Mo): Look at Map Quest and it should show how to get there
05/11/05 20:06:58 sherry__(Mo): We aren't sure-should find out more tomorrow.
05/11/05 20:08:04 Carol_SK Logs Out
05/11/05 20:08:08 sherry__(Mo): We had s good meeting on species at my local club last night
05/11/05 20:08:41 Cheryl-TX: do you have many species
05/11/05 20:09:25 Clare_KS Logs Out
05/11/05 20:09:27 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
05/11/05 20:09:57 sherry__(Mo): No, Cheryl, but I'd ordered leaves from Fay last year but had told her to hold up on my order until things settle down. I've got 4 or 5 species and brought home 5 lea ves last night.
05/11/05 20:10:33 sherry__(Mo): I had ordered some from Cape Cod but they never bothered to fill my order or answer my emails
05/11/05 20:10:57 Cheryl-TX: I tried showing a collection of species this year.........daring move.........right?
05/11/05 20:11:45 paula0103 Logs in [12.223.195.199]
05/11/05 20:11:49 sherry__(Mo): Linda Golubski is trying to get the judges to learn more about the species so they can be better at judging them
05/11/05 20:11:53 Cheryl-TX: that was not right, it was a collection of the orginal 10, not species
05/11/05 20:12:06 sherry__(Mo): Hi Paula
05/11/05 20:12:11 paula0103: Hi guys!
05/11/05 20:12:20 sherry__(Mo): How'd that go Cheryl?!
05/11/05 20:12:21 Cheryl-TX: Hi Paula
05/11/05 20:12:30 Cheryl-TX: not well
05/11/05 20:12:40 Tony_C Logs in [207.43.75.34]
05/11/05 20:12:40 Cheryl-TX: got my fist 2nd place ribbon
05/11/05 20:12:50 Cheryl-TX: Hi Tony
05/11/05 20:12:52 Tony_C: Hi ladies
05/11/05 20:12:58 paula0103: Hi Tony
05/11/05 20:12:58 sherry__(Mo): Cheryl, that isn't bad though!!
05/11/05 20:13:04 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tony!!
05/11/05 20:13:25 paula0103: What species were you talking about?
05/11/05 20:13:29 Cheryl-TX: yes, but it was my first 2nd
05/11/05 20:13:34 sherry__(Mo): AV species
05/11/05 20:13:51 sherry__(Mo): But how many first places have you gotten!?!!!
05/11/05 20:14:28 Cheryl-TX: I am not sure, would have to count, around 50
05/11/05 20:14:48 Clare_KS: geez, what's your secret??
05/11/05 20:14:55 paula0103: Cheryl I am so impressed!  That's great!
05/11/05 20:15:01 Dogmom Logs in [12.222.144.10]
05/11/05 20:15:09 sherry__(Mo): Hi Cheryl
05/11/05 20:15:14 paula0103: Hi Cheryl!
05/11/05 20:15:20 Cheryl-TX: the week before i got a several best in class and the best gessie in show, so getting my first second place the following week was a dissapointment
05/11/05 20:15:25 Tony_C: hi Cheryl
05/11/05 20:15:29 sherry__(Mo): I'd say 50 is pretty darn good Cheryl!!
05/11/05 20:15:45 Dogmom: Hi everyone...
05/11/05 20:15:57 sherry__(Mo): Ya have to give someone else a chance-LOL!
05/11/05 20:16:02 Dogmom: Sorry to see Jana missing in action
05/11/05 20:16:12 Cheryl-TX: Hi Tony, Hi Cheryl
05/11/05 20:16:12 Dogmom: Horrible t'storms down in Indianapolis
05/11/05 20:16:19 Tony_C: Could you see why the other plant got 1st and yours 2nd?
05/11/05 20:16:46 Cheryl-TX: me too, i was really looking forward to hearing from some one who had done this
05/11/05 20:16:59 sherry__(Mo): They are here in Mo too Cheryl
05/11/05 20:17:17 Dogmom: Yes, Sherry - I'm wondering if the Cardinals will get the game in LOL!
05/11/05 20:17:47 sherry__(Mo): LOL
05/11/05 20:18:32 sherry__(Mo): Is Jana still sick?
05/11/05 20:18:37 bonnie Logs in [69.87.139.192]
05/11/05 20:18:40 Clare_KS: Storms, Sherry
05/11/05 20:18:47 Dogmom: Hi Bonnie
05/11/05 20:18:54 Tony_C: hi Bonnie
05/11/05 20:19:04 sherry__(Mo): Hi Bonnie.
05/11/05 20:19:05 Cheryl-TX: well i guess we will have something to look forward to
05/11/05 20:19:07 paula0103: Have any of you ordered from Bluebird before?
05/11/05 20:19:22 Dogmom: Yes, Paula... I have and I LOVE Bluebird
05/11/05 20:19:26 bonnie: Hi all.  I finally stayed up late enough to join in.
05/11/05 20:19:31 sherry__(Mo): Thanks Clare-wasn't thinking-as usual!
05/11/05 20:19:31 Dogmom: In fact, I have leaves coming tomorrow
05/11/05 20:19:39 paula0103: How long does it usually take to get an order?
05/11/05 20:19:55 Dogmom: Depends... typically two weeks.
05/11/05 20:20:10 Sarah Logs in [216.45.168.113]
05/11/05 20:20:12 Dogmom: Right now, they're super busy
05/11/05 20:20:18 paula0103: Ok, I have three AV's coming and I am overanxious!
05/11/05 20:20:21 Clare_KS: Took mine three and then a lot of the leaves where broken.
05/11/05 20:20:25 Tony_C: hi Sarah
05/11/05 20:20:26 sherry__(Mo): Hi Sarah
05/11/05 20:20:29 Sarah: Hey
05/11/05 20:20:32 Sarah: How is everyone doing?
05/11/05 20:20:35 Clare_KS: I was not a happy camper.
05/11/05 20:20:37 Dogmom: Hi Sarah
05/11/05 20:20:44 sherry__(Mo): That's too bad Clare
05/11/05 20:20:44 Clare_KS: Hi Sarah
05/11/05 20:20:46 Dogmom: Clare - did you talk to Libbie?
05/11/05 20:20:50 Cheryl-TX: Blue bird is great
05/11/05 20:20:52 Sarah: So whats the topic?
05/11/05 20:20:53 Clare_KS: Who's Libbie?
05/11/05 20:21:03 Dogmom: The owner of Bluebird Greenhouse?
05/11/05 20:21:03 sherry__(Mo): Did you contact the vendor Clare?
05/11/05 20:21:32 Clare_KS: Not yet, Sherry, I wanted to see if they survived.
05/11/05 20:21:39 Tony_C: Jana was going to discuss tissue culture but storms are keeping her off the PC
05/11/05 20:21:47 bonnie: Does anyone know how Jana is doing.  I know she felt lousy after the convention.
05/11/05 20:21:48 Sarah: Yeah, we got storms headed this way
05/11/05 20:21:56 Dogmom: I had a small problem last year - one leaf was showing signs of problems .. . she not only replaced that leaf, but ALL the leaves that came with that order
05/11/05 20:21:58 Sarah: Bonnie, she is getting better, slowly but surely
05/11/05 20:22:13 Tony_C: talked with her today and seems to be improving
05/11/05 20:22:34 bonnie: Thats good news.  Such a nice person.
05/11/05 20:22:46 Sarah: Yes she is
05/11/05 20:22:57 paula0103: Can I ask what is wrong with her?
05/11/05 20:22:57 Dogmom: Libbie is pure and simply a GEM
05/11/05 20:23:16 sherry__(Mo): I found out something last night. Linda Golubski said if you have a complaint about a vendor to contact AVSA. I'll have to ask her again which person she said to contact
05/11/05 20:23:19 Dogmom: Paula - she has gotten a bug, that compounded her other health problems
05/11/05 20:23:38 Cheryl-TX: I ordered from some pots in white and they shipped green, when i told them the order was incorrect they replaced with the right color and told me to keep the greens, we are talking several hundred pots
05/11/05 20:23:39 paula0103: oh
05/11/05 20:23:42 Dogmom: and she's such a sweetie (JANA) that she spreads herself too thin
05/11/05 20:24:06 bonnie: Boy, you can say that again.
05/11/05 20:24:35 Dogmom: If you remember, she's as active with her cavvies as she is with violets
05/11/05 20:24:57 bonnie: What are cavvies?
05/11/05 20:25:12 Clare_KS: Guinea pigs
05/11/05 20:25:15 Dogmom: I think they're what we used to call guinea pigs
05/11/05 20:25:18 paula0103: I was just watching our local weather and they said the storms are still going on and lots of hail.  I live about an hour northwest from Jana
05/11/05 20:25:20 bonnie: Oh, stupid me.
05/11/05 20:25:25 Sarah: We have lighting here
05/11/05 20:25:36 Dogmom: Paula - where are you... I'm in lafayette
05/11/05 20:25:43 paula0103: I'm in Lebanon
05/11/05 20:25:51 bonnie: We have cold.  Brrr in Michigan
05/11/05 20:26:00 Dogmom: Paula - want to come relieve me of some plants?
05/11/05 20:26:09 paula0103: I would love to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
05/11/05 20:26:32 paula0103: Not that I'm that excited or anything
05/11/05 20:26:33 Dogmom: e-mail me privately... cvetter @ insightbb.com
05/11/05 20:26:36 bonnie: I just trimmed my collection.  Gave a bunch to nursing homes.
05/11/05 20:27:03 Shellie_NM Logs in [68.35.120.27]
05/11/05 20:27:06 Dogmom: I'll give you my phone # & we can set something up
05/11/05 20:27:09 Dogmom: Hi Shellie!
05/11/05 20:27:15 sherry__(Mo): Hi Shellie
05/11/05 20:27:17 Cheryl-TX: Hi Shelllie
05/11/05 20:27:19 Tony_C: Hi Shellie
05/11/05 20:27:20 bonnie: Hi shellie
05/11/05 20:27:20 paula0103: that would be wonderful cheryl
05/11/05 20:27:34 Shellie_NM: good evening everyone
05/11/05 20:29:00 Dogmom: So... since we can't talk tissue culture, what have we all discovered lately?
05/11/05 20:29:00 Shellie_NM: Geeeee everyones awfully quiet
05/11/05 20:30:13 Tony_C: did a bunch of repotting and some look better, others look like WalMart rejects. Don't know why
05/11/05 20:30:26 Dogmom: What symptoms, Tony?
05/11/05 20:30:41 Tony_C: droopy and been 3 weeks ago
05/11/05 20:30:45 Dogmom: I hate repotting... seems I always lose the bottom row of leaves
05/11/05 20:30:59 Dogmom: Tony - do you dome or cover yours after repotting?
05/11/05 20:31:17 Dogmom: I've found that helps
05/11/05 20:31:25 Tony_C: did that and some of them had like a mold on the plants
05/11/05 20:31:28 bonnie: Tony, did you trim the root ball when you repotted
05/11/05 20:31:46 Tony_C: some of them were trimmed
05/11/05 20:32:02 Dogmom: If it's powdery mildew, a little spritz with Lysol will kill it
05/11/05 20:32:12 bonnie: I just did that with one of my chimeras.  It repotted fine.
05/11/05 20:32:27 bonnie: I did not put anything over them.  Just left them in the air.
05/11/05 20:33:07 Clare_KS: I've been thinking a lot about repotting...can someone explain the dichotomy of needing to be rootbound vs. repotting and cutting off part of the rootball? It doesn't make sense to me.
05/11/05 20:33:24 Dogmom: For me, time of year seems to make a difference - in summer I can leave them uncovered, but in winter it's so dry I have to cover them.
05/11/05 20:33:36 bonnie: by cutting of the root ball, the plant will shoot up babies.
05/11/05 20:33:50 Tony_C: think cut the root ball if it doesn't fil in the new pot
05/11/05 20:34:19 bonnie: that too tony
05/11/05 20:34:25 Cheryl-TX: "shoot up babies"?
05/11/05 20:34:47 bonnie: grow new babies, suckers......
05/11/05 20:35:02 sherry__(Mo): ???
05/11/05 20:35:21 Cheryl-TX: ok suckers
05/11/05 20:35:58 sherry__(Mo): It will give room for nes roots to grow
05/11/05 20:36:09 sherry__(Mo): "new" can't type
05/11/05 20:36:35 Clare_KS: But then doesn't it stop blooming until rootbound again?
05/11/05 20:36:38 Dogmom: Gotta leave y'all... t'storms are moving north from Jana's neck of the woods...nervous dogs need their momma LOL!
05/11/05 20:36:44 violetbecca Logs in [71.98.76.32]
05/11/05 20:36:49 Dogmom: Nite all...
05/11/05 20:36:56 sherry__(Mo): Night!
05/11/05 20:36:57 Dogmom Logs Out
05/11/05 20:37:01 Tony_C: nite Cheryl
05/11/05 20:37:06 Cheryl-TX: hi violet
05/11/05 20:37:12 bonnie: see ya Cheryl
05/11/05 20:37:13 violetbecca: hi
05/11/05 20:37:13 sherry__(Mo): Hi Becca
05/11/05 20:37:27 bonnie: Hi becca
05/11/05 20:37:34 violetbecca: hello all
05/11/05 20:37:41 Tony_C: hi Becca
05/11/05 20:37:50 violetbecca: hey got a question for ya all
05/11/05 20:37:59 Tony_C: ok
05/11/05 20:38:23 Cheryl-TX: we love questions
05/11/05 20:38:45 violetbecca: i planted 15 ordinary leafs last sat   put them in little pots put them in a large sauser watered them now the soil is moldy?
05/11/05 20:39:19 violetbecca: oh plastic sauser with plastic sauser on top
05/11/05 20:39:36 bonnie: Hows the humidity in your house.  Did you cover them
05/11/05 20:39:52 violetbecca: yeah i covered them
05/11/05 20:40:04 Cheryl-TX: bad mold or good mold
05/11/05 20:40:14 bonnie: Good mold?????
05/11/05 20:40:28 violetbecca: don't know
05/11/05 20:40:57 bonnie: Never heard of good mold
05/11/05 20:41:08 Clare_KS: penicillin?
05/11/05 20:41:19 violetbecca: oh i'm allergic to it
05/11/05 20:41:25 bonnie: Why don't you uncover them just a little to dry the soil a bit.
05/11/05 20:41:29 Cheryl-TX: if the soil is very healthy a white mold like stuff will grow on the soil
05/11/05 20:42:13 violetbecca: it's geish white
05/11/05 20:42:15 Cheryl-TX: uncovering is a good idea
05/11/05 20:42:25 paula0103 Logs Out
05/11/05 20:42:31 violetbecca: grayish white
05/11/05 20:43:01 Cheryl-TX: what did y ou put the leaves in?
05/11/05 20:43:42 violetbecca: shultz moisture plus soil
05/11/05 20:44:02 bonnie: Sounds too wet to me.  Try uncovering for a while.
05/11/05 20:44:13 violetbecca: ok that is what I did
05/11/05 20:44:19 Cheryl-TX: I would remove and put in 1:1 perlite and vermiculite and set in dish of water
05/11/05 20:44:28 violetbecca: so we will see keep oyur fingers crossed
05/11/05 20:44:31 bonnie: Good idea
05/11/05 20:44:38 Sarah: Ok, sorry.. storms were coming and I had to bring in the plants
05/11/05 20:45:01 violetbecca: oops keep your fingers crossed it works
05/11/05 20:45:16 violetbecca: and another question how long does it take them to root
05/11/05 20:45:37 bonnie: Sometimes month.  Other times just a few weeks.
05/11/05 20:45:40 violetbecca: I have plants that have been in soil two weeks with no signs
05/11/05 20:45:42 violetbecca: ok
05/11/05 20:45:52 Tony_C: 2-4 weeks
05/11/05 20:46:03 bonnie: I had one that I kept down for a year.  Still no mouse ears.  Pitched it.
05/11/05 20:46:13 Sarah: Does anyone in here garden organically?
05/11/05 20:46:20 Cheryl-TX: each one has a differnt time, and the enviornment also plays into it
05/11/05 20:46:33 Cheryl-TX: some will take as long as 9 months
05/11/05 20:46:40 violetbecca: wow
05/11/05 20:47:14 Sarah: Alot of the leaves I got at the Convention died... Me and Jana both think that the leaves were crushed with people looking through them
05/11/05 20:47:19 bonnie: I heard that if you put less soil into the container, it will show mouse ears sooner.  Anyone try that?
05/11/05 20:47:22 violetbecca: well next year I want to go to the farmers market with them
05/11/05 20:47:24 Clare_KS: Sarah, I used to, what do you want to know?
05/11/05 20:47:56 Sarah: I need to find a general disease/pesticide that is organic or "soft", to use as preventative maintenence?
05/11/05 20:47:58 Cheryl-TX: well just dont put the stem in as deep
05/11/05 20:47:59 violetbecca: yes because the get root bound and then start to grow babies i have heard that two
05/11/05 20:48:24 Tony_C: the deeper you plant it the more soil the new ones have to push thru to get to the top
05/11/05 20:48:45 bonnie: Tony.  Make sense to me.
05/11/05 20:49:01 Sarah: Tony, that is why I use 3/4 oz souflee cups
05/11/05 20:49:15 violetbecca: what if you jsut have a leaf with now stem can you plant that two
05/11/05 20:49:51 violetbecca: i hate to type
05/11/05 20:50:00 Tony_C: RachelsReflections had a thing about planting a wedge I think
05/11/05 20:50:21 Cheryl-TX: yes this typing stuff it ucky
05/11/05 20:50:37 bonnie: Gotta go.  Good Night.
05/11/05 20:50:43 violetbecca: night bonnie
05/11/05 20:50:50 bonnie Logs Out
05/11/05 20:50:52 Tony_C: nite Bonnie
05/11/05 20:52:31 Cheryl-TX: well i was so excited about Jana 's pics, i would love to try cloning
05/11/05 20:52:37 Cheryl-TX: has anyone here done it
05/11/05 20:53:03 violetbecca: nope
05/11/05 20:53:37 violetbecca: would like to learn though
05/11/05 20:53:55 Cheryl-TX: me too, tha tmay be my summer project
05/11/05 20:54:17 violetbecca: let me know how it works out
05/11/05 20:54:43 Sarah: How is tissue culture different from leaf propogation?
05/11/05 20:54:57 Shellie_NM: I use the souflee cups too.  Baby potting mix that is 1/2 perlite and 1/2 vermiculite with a little bit of charcoal.  I cut drainage slits in the cups, put a wick in, it fill it with mix and wet with plain water.
05/11/05 20:55:05 Cheryl-TX: i would have figured you would have tried it tony
05/11/05 20:55:28 Shellie_NM: I let the excess water drain off while I label the cup and prepare the leaf.
05/11/05 20:55:32 Tony_C: TC, no
05/11/05 20:56:17 Clare_KS: Is TC how the big vendors propagate?
05/11/05 20:56:22 Tony_C: what I do with all those baby plants
05/11/05 20:56:35 Clare_KS: sell 'em on eBay :)
05/11/05 20:57:00 violetbecca: yeah i just bought a viola Rebecca the other day and recived it today
05/11/05 20:57:04 Tony_C: I would think so as you could get several hundred
05/11/05 20:57:06 Sarah: Do you do well on Ebay, Claire?
05/11/05 20:57:12 Sarah: Clare, I mean
05/11/05 20:57:12 Cheryl-TX: if do a tissure culture on a chimera will it be a chimera
05/11/05 20:57:15 Clare_KS: so far
05/11/05 20:57:25 Clare_KS: Sarah, did the leaves arrive ok?
05/11/05 20:57:43 Sarah: I need a way to bring in extra money.. was wondering if I should start a mini greenhouse
05/11/05 20:57:55 Sarah: The 2 Opt. MI, etc?
05/11/05 20:57:56 Tony_C: if you had tissue from the main stem or a bloom stalk
05/11/05 20:58:06 Clare_KS: yes, Sarah
05/11/05 20:58:11 Clare_KS: that we were exchanging
05/11/05 20:58:12 Sarah: Yes, they are great
05/11/05 20:58:20 violetbecca: the green houses are so expensive though
05/11/05 20:58:37 Cheryl-TX: well it is bout time for me to sign off, but want to leave yo with something new i am trying
05/11/05 20:58:44 Sarah: Its kinda funny.. because I found out that I had actually bought an Opt. MI, then mom bought me one, then your leaves came :-D
05/11/05 20:58:57 Clare_KS: oh no!!
05/11/05 20:59:08 Clare_KS: Well, mine is huge and blooms constantly.
05/11/05 20:59:13 Tony_C: better make sure you can get rid of the plants beofre you end up with several hundred, like I did
05/11/05 20:59:22 Sarah: But there are no such thing as too many leaves, etc.
05/11/05 20:59:27 Sarah: They make good gifts
05/11/05 20:59:40 Clare_KS: Tony, do you sell a lot on eBay or is it more trouble than it's worth?
05/11/05 21:00:03 Tony_C: still evaluating it
05/11/05 21:00:07 violetbecca: well i need to get going we have a bad storm comming
05/11/05 21:00:07 Clare_KS: I've tried selling various things but so far haven't made any profit.
05/11/05 21:00:14 Clare_KS: Bye, VB
05/11/05 21:00:17 violetbecca: bye
05/11/05 21:00:18 Sarah: BRB
05/11/05 21:00:27 sherry__(Mo): Night Becca
05/11/05 21:00:27 violetbecca Logs Out
05/11/05 21:00:28 Tony_C: nite Becca
05/11/05 21:01:17 Tony_C: it's a lot of work to get 20 leaves in the box, labelled, etc and to the mail
05/11/05 21:01:37 Clare_KS: yeah, the packing is the worst part of eBay for me.
05/11/05 21:01:45 Cheryl-TX: insead of using eggcrating on this last stand we used plastic lattice, the color white and the slatts close together.  you can get four 22x45 sheetswhen you cut a 4x8 sheet
05/11/05 21:01:49 Clare_KS: Do you sell plants or just leaves?
05/11/05 21:01:56 sherry__(Mo): Sarah, do you belong to a local club? If so, you can sell at your local shows if you enter a certain number of plants for show
05/11/05 21:02:13 sherry__(Mo): I'll have to remeber that Cheryl!
05/11/05 21:02:55 Cheryl-TX: looks great and it is a little cheaper
05/11/05 21:03:11 Tony_C: packing plants takes a lot longer than packing leaves
05/11/05 21:03:25 sherry__(Mo): It sure does Tony!!
05/11/05 21:03:40 Cheryl-TX: ok got to get back to typing my finals, night all, sorry jana couldnt make it
05/11/05 21:03:51 sherry__(Mo): Night Cheryl!!
05/11/05 21:03:53 Tony_C: later, Cheryl
05/11/05 21:04:03 Shellie_NM: nite Cheryl
05/11/05 21:04:31 Clare_KS: However, my boss makes enough at eBay that she is going to retire and do just that.
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05/11/05 21:04:51 Clare_KS: I guess you just have to find your niche.
05/11/05 21:05:11 Sarah: that would be nice, Clare
05/11/05 21:05:25 Tony_C: think it's more of what you sell and how fast you can ship and how much labor is involved
05/11/05 21:05:46 Sarah: I thought about propogating AV's, and Orchids, and making a specialty nursery
05/11/05 21:06:06 sherry__(Mo): It's all I can do to keep up with what I have now
05/11/05 21:06:25 violetbecca Logs in [71.98.76.32]
05/11/05 21:06:32 Clare_KS: My goal is to find something like eBay so I can quit my job.
05/11/05 21:06:35 Sarah: Well with the fibromyalgia I have tons of time on my hands
05/11/05 21:06:42 Shellie_NM: WB becca
05/11/05 21:06:42 Sarah: Although I just found out Sat I have a funeral to go to
05/11/05 21:06:47 Clare_KS: I have that, too, Sarah, it's a bummer.
05/11/05 21:06:47 jim_in_nd Logs in [69.9.219.17]
05/11/05 21:06:52 violetbecca: hey forgot to ask real fast   is african violets toxic to cats
05/11/05 21:06:56 Shellie_NM: hi Jim
05/11/05 21:06:58 Sarah: Clare, you do? Are you able to work?
05/11/05 21:07:00 jim_in_nd: hi
05/11/05 21:07:07 jim_in_nd: did i miss the chat
05/11/05 21:07:08 Shellie_NM: I have fibromyalgia too
05/11/05 21:07:09 Clare_KS: I have to work, Sarah, but hurt all the time.
05/11/05 21:07:16 Tony_C: If you had this speciality shop, what is the market. How many people would come and buy plants?
05/11/05 21:07:17 Sarah: Are you on many meds?
05/11/05 21:07:20 Clare_KS: How long, Shellie?
05/11/05 21:07:32 Sarah: Market.. here, big. Lots and lots of gardeners, etc
05/11/05 21:07:34 sherry__(Mo): My cats aren't dead yet Becca!!
05/11/05 21:07:39 Clare_KS: Sarah, I'm always exhausted and don't have much of a life except for working :)
05/11/05 21:07:55 Sarah: Clare, I had to drop out of college last semester, and I cant work right now.
05/11/05 21:07:57 jim_in_nd: i dont have cats anymore
05/11/05 21:08:03 violetbecca: ok thanks i jut looked at this vet web sit and they said the leavs are
05/11/05 21:08:06 Shellie_NM: I was diagnonsed 17 yrs ago but I probably had it most of my adult life
05/11/05 21:08:22 jim_in_nd: what do you have shelley
05/11/05 21:08:32 Tony_C: hi Jim
05/11/05 21:08:36 jim_in_nd: hi tony
05/11/05 21:08:42 jim_in_nd: how are you doing
05/11/05 21:08:45 Clare_KS: I think I've always had it...I was raised Catholic, and I always thought that everybody hurt and that was one of our "punishments from God"
05/11/05 21:09:06 Sarah: Clare.. Im agnostic, but I can see with this how someone would want to pray
05/11/05 21:09:19 Shellie_NM: celebrex for the aches, zoloft for depression
05/11/05 21:09:24 violetbecca Logs Out
05/11/05 21:09:29 jim_in_nd: bye
05/11/05 21:09:32 jim_in_nd: becca
05/11/05 21:09:37 Shellie_NM: trazadone to get to sleep
05/11/05 21:09:47 Clare_KS: I was on Bextra but that's off the market now. Now I mostly just put up with the pain.
05/11/05 21:09:52 jim_in_nd: you must be in a lot of pain
05/11/05 21:10:01 Clare_KS: Yeah, it's a great life, huh, Shellie?? :)
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05/11/05 21:10:14 Clare_KS: Does the heat bother you?
05/11/05 21:10:22 Clare_KS: I can't take the heat at ALL.
05/11/05 21:10:23 jim_in_nd Logs in [69.9.219.17]
05/11/05 21:10:24 Sarah: Shellie, Im on Darvocet for pain, advil for aches, Skelexan to sleep and for muscle spasms, Flexiral for the bad muscle spasms, and Celexa and Cymbalta
05/11/05 21:10:40 Shellie_NM: wow
05/11/05 21:10:41 Clare_KS: wow, how are you walking around?
05/11/05 21:10:49 jim_in_nd: thats a lot of med too take
05/11/05 21:10:51 Sarah: They said mine was brought on by a ruptured appendix that I had at 16
05/11/05 21:10:59 Sarah: My body was sick and in shock for so long..
05/11/05 21:11:00 Clare_KS: I threw my Flexeril away, I couldn't wake up for days after taking one.
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05/11/05 21:11:13 Sarah: Clare, thats not all the meds Im on, either.. and I turn 22 in June
05/11/05 21:11:14 Clare_KS: my sisters have it, too.
05/11/05 21:11:14 jim_in_nd Logs in [69.9.219.17]
05/11/05 21:11:20 Shellie_NM: wb jim
05/11/05 21:11:30 jim_in_nd: thanks
05/11/05 21:11:31 Shellie_NM: are you going to stay awhile
05/11/05 21:11:37 Sarah: Mornings are hard, but I do ok
05/11/05 21:11:44 jim_in_nd: was thinking  about it
05/11/05 21:11:46 Sarah: Ive been gardening alot, trying to get my endurance back
05/11/05 21:12:08 Clare_KS: Jim, you have violets?
05/11/05 21:12:11 Tony_C: Jim, any violet questions?
05/11/05 21:12:22 jim_in_nd: yes i have violets
05/11/05 21:12:34 jim_in_nd: not really that i can think of
05/11/05 21:12:41 jim_in_nd: just wanted to say hi
05/11/05 21:12:47 Tony_C: how many AV's
05/11/05 21:12:51 Shellie_NM: I am 62 and I take other meds for things like hormone replacement, I am also hypothyroid
05/11/05 21:12:55 jim_in_nd: over 100
05/11/05 21:13:02 Clare_KS: me too, Shellie
05/11/05 21:13:04 jim_in_nd: plus a ton of leaves
05/11/05 21:13:17 jim_in_nd: and tons of streptocarpus
05/11/05 21:13:37 jim_in_nd: how  about you tony
05/11/05 21:13:42 Tony_C: should be shipping weather in ND soon, so maybe start trading, etc.
05/11/05 21:13:44 jim_in_nd: and clare
05/11/05 21:13:53 Sarah: Tony, let me know what your looking for
05/11/05 21:13:54 jim_in_nd: id like that
05/11/05 21:14:01 Shellie_NM: I have three of the green domed trays full of leaves and I am waiting on leaves from Jana
05/11/05 21:14:08 Clare_KS: Jim, I'm just getting started.
05/11/05 21:14:09 jim_in_nd: i am found of mosaics
05/11/05 21:14:31 Tony_C: got over 200 plants
05/11/05 21:14:35 jim_in_nd: wow
05/11/05 21:14:48 Sarah: I ahve around 30 plants, but over 100 leaves down
05/11/05 21:14:54 Clare_KS: Do you guys have greenhouses?
05/11/05 21:15:00 sherry__(Mo): I like the mosaics too Jim
05/11/05 21:15:04 Sarah: My bedroom, Clare *g*
05/11/05 21:15:08 jim_in_nd: does anyone know what genetic carmine looks like
05/11/05 21:15:12 Tony_C: no greenhouse, just4 stands with lights
05/11/05 21:15:23 jim_in_nd: stands and lights here
05/11/05 21:15:26 Clare_KS: how do you get so many plants on just two stands??
05/11/05 21:15:39 Shellie_NM: I have one of the 4'wide x 18' 5 shelf unit
05/11/05 21:15:46 Sarah: Dad sacrificed half the garage for alot of my violet stuff
05/11/05 21:15:52 Sarah: Where do you guys get your light stands at?
05/11/05 21:16:02 jim_in_nd: i got some at walmart
05/11/05 21:16:06 Shellie_NM: excuse the typing 18" deep,
05/11/05 21:16:08 jim_in_nd: and i built one
05/11/05 21:16:14 jim_in_nd: 2 ft wide
05/11/05 21:16:15 Tony_C: mine are the bakery type stands from Menards
05/11/05 21:16:19 jim_in_nd: and 8ft long
05/11/05 21:16:21 Sarah: What type of lights do you uSE?
05/11/05 21:16:26 Shellie_NM: Lowes and Home Depot
05/11/05 21:16:27 jim_in_nd: shop lights
05/11/05 21:16:35 Sarah: Just flourescent?
05/11/05 21:16:39 Shellie_NM: yup shop light
05/11/05 21:16:39 jim_in_nd: yes
05/11/05 21:16:50 Tony_C: shop lights 1 cool and 1 warm bulb in each
05/11/05 21:17:02 jim_in_nd: mine cost 7 or 8 for a double shop light
05/11/05 21:17:07 jim_in_nd: plus the lights
05/11/05 21:17:11 jim_in_nd: mine are cool
05/11/05 21:17:18 jim_in_nd: to the touch
05/11/05 21:17:39 Shellie_NM: I bought the new 1" bulbs for my shelf - they use less electricity and produce more lights
05/11/05 21:18:00 Sarah: 1" bulb? Are they long?
05/11/05 21:18:06 Clare_KS: Shellie, where did you get those fixtures?
05/11/05 21:18:12 Shellie_NM: Lowes
05/11/05 21:18:23 sherry__(Mo): Gotta go-take care everyone!!
05/11/05 21:18:24 Clare_KS: how much are they?
05/11/05 21:18:27 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out
05/11/05 21:18:32 Tony_C: nite Shellie
05/11/05 21:18:34 jim_in_nd: bye sherrie
05/11/05 21:18:36 Sarah: I need to find something that can screw into a brood lamp or something
05/11/05 21:18:37 Shellie_NM: 1 inch wide x 4 ft.
05/11/05 21:18:39 Sarah: Something small
05/11/05 21:19:29 jim_in_nd: well i gotta work tomorrow, so ill be going
05/11/05 21:19:36 jim_in_nd: take care all
05/11/05 21:19:42 Tony_C: nite Jim
05/11/05 21:19:47 Clare_KS: Nite
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05/11/05 21:20:05 Clare_KS: I'm off tomorrow so I get to stay up like an adult :)
05/11/05 21:20:06 Clare_KS: hee hee
05/11/05 21:20:20 Shellie_NM: I don't remember what I paid for the bulbs only that a box of 12 was only about $10 more that a box of 10 of the fat bulbs
05/11/05 21:20:40 Clare_KS: do the bulbs go in the regular fixtures, Shellie?
05/11/05 21:21:10 Shellie_NM: yes they do, but you need the newer fixture with the newer type of balast
05/11/05 21:21:31 Sarah: Why wont regular lightbulbs work?
05/11/05 21:21:39 Clare_KS: too hot, Sarah
05/11/05 21:22:00 Sarah: Is there a type of lightbulb that you can screw into a regular lightbulb socket that would work?
05/11/05 21:22:20 Shellie_NM: with the cooler flouescents you can put the plants 12-18" from the light
05/11/05 21:22:22 Tony_C: not the right light spectrum
05/11/05 21:22:41 Sarah: Im short on space
05/11/05 21:22:54 Sarah: And my window is filling up quickly
05/11/05 21:23:09 Clare_KS: how about an aquarium light, Sarah?
05/11/05 21:23:26 Sarah: Hm, that might work
05/11/05 21:23:26 Clare_KS: Maybe you could find one at a garage sale?
05/11/05 21:23:52 Sarah: I could find just an aquarium hood
05/11/05 21:24:07 Shellie_NM: you could use a two foot square plastic shelf unit.  The flourescents are easy to find in 2 foot leghts
05/11/05 21:24:34 Clare_KS: good idea, Shellie
05/11/05 21:25:00 Clare_KS: I bought a baker's rack from Costco and we're putting florescents on it.
05/11/05 21:25:14 Clare_KS: It's about 7 feet tall with the wheels.
05/11/05 21:25:19 Sarah: How much was the rack, Clare?
05/11/05 21:25:32 Tony_C: sounds like what I have Clare
05/11/05 21:25:34 Clare_KS: I'm using the top, where I can't reach easily, for storage of extra stuff.
05/11/05 21:25:45 Shellie_NM: my first shelf was a 3' wide shelf and I at the time I could not find 3 foot long lights so I used 2 ft lights.  I also did not know to use a twin bulb fixture.  my plants were not getting enough light
05/11/05 21:25:49 Clare_KS: it was $80 and is all chrome, very sturdy.
05/11/05 21:26:27 Clare_KS: Tony, I can't imagine being able to put 100 plants on this thing.
05/11/05 21:26:39 Clare_KS: unless they are all mini's
05/11/05 21:26:56 Tony_C: use 4 trays per shelf
05/11/05 21:27:23 Shellie_NM: It will hold that many Clare
05/11/05 21:27:46 Sarah: I guess Im odd.. I dont like the idea of putting them all on racks where you cant see them
05/11/05 21:27:50 Clare_KS: I have to leave the bottom two empty of plants and full of toddler toys for a couple years :)
05/11/05 21:28:33 Tony_C: that would make a difference. LOL
05/11/05 21:28:56 Clare_KS: right now, Bert and Ernie have taken up residence.
05/11/05 21:28:56 Shellie_NM: I know because I have all my plants on it apprx 40 adult plants 3 trays of leaves and 3 trays of youngsters in 2-3" pots
05/11/05 21:30:38 Clare_KS: How big are your trays? Where do you get them?
05/11/05 21:31:26 Tony_C: trays like at the nursery where you get tomatoes. Black plastic and no holes in the bottom
05/11/05 21:31:52 Tony_C: 11x22 I think
05/11/05 21:32:03 Sarah Logs Out
05/11/05 21:32:11 Clare_KS: Ok, that's what I have. Your rack must be bigger, there's no way I could fit 4 of those on one shelf.
05/11/05 21:32:34 Clare_KS: well, unless I put them sideways and they hang over the shelf?
05/11/05 21:32:40 Tony_C: shelf is 18x48
05/11/05 21:33:08 Tony_C: narrow side facing out
05/11/05 21:33:12 Shellie_NM: thats the size, I have some from the nursery section of lowes or home depot and some of the heavier green ones from the AV supplies
05/11/05 21:33:17 Clare_KS: ohhhhh, ok.
05/11/05 21:33:51 Clare_KS: ok, so ... are all your plants touching each other?
05/11/05 21:34:09 Tony_C: some of them, yes
05/11/05 21:34:20 Shellie_NM: no not touching, I keep arranging so they don't touch
05/11/05 21:34:28 Tony_C: most of them yes, LOL
05/11/05 21:34:45 Clare_KS: don't the leaves grow funny, Tony?
05/11/05 21:35:20 Tony_C: some of them. That's why I need to rid of some
05/11/05 21:35:34 Clare_KS: well, I keep waiting for you to show up on eBay :)
05/11/05 21:35:40 Clare_KS: Do you have a farmer's market there?
05/11/05 21:36:03 Tony_C: just veggies
05/11/05 21:36:07 Shellie_NM: on the adult plants I use reservoirs of different height to help keep them from touching
05/11/05 21:37:11 Clare_KS: I think my brain is overflowing. Thank you SO MUCH!!! for all the help.
05/11/05 21:37:13 Tony_C: with my eye problems for a couple months, I am way behind in stuff
05/11/05 21:37:54 Clare_KS: Night :)
05/11/05 21:38:01 Tony_C: nith Clare
05/11/05 21:38:06 Clare_KS Logs Out
05/11/05 21:38:32 Tony_C: will call it quits also, Shellie
05/11/05 21:38:36 Shellie_NM Logs Out
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