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06/30/05 20:05:16 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.138.116.5]
06/30/05 20:05:32 Tony__IL: hi Sherry
06/30/05 20:05:46 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tony!! How's it going?
06/30/05 20:06:07 Tony__IL: finally got some rain, so better
06/30/05 20:06:31 Tony__IL: we'll see how the leaves I got down do
06/30/05 20:06:43 sherry__(Mo): It really stormed here too-I'm glad because we really needed it
06/30/05 20:07:06 Tony__IL: think we got about 6/10th last night
06/30/05 20:07:06 sherry__(Mo): The ones you got last week?!
06/30/05 20:07:36 Tony__IL: Some from Cheryl, Sweden and some of mone I only had 1 of
06/30/05 20:07:54 Tony__IL: of mine
06/30/05 20:08:41 sherry__(Mo): It's getting too hot here-we have to get a bigger central air unit, so I won't be putting down much until fall-if I can find the room
06/30/05 20:09:15 Tony__IL: it's been in the upper 90's here with heat index 100+
06/30/05 20:09:27 sherry__(Mo): I don't know what is what around here right now!
06/30/05 20:09:32 Brenda_Al Logs in [12.217.40.181]
06/30/05 20:09:35 sherry__(Mo): Too hot for me
06/30/05 20:09:42 sherry__(Mo): Hi Brenda
06/30/05 20:09:42 Tony__IL: Hi Brenda
06/30/05 20:09:50 Brenda_Al: hi
06/30/05 20:10:30 sherry__(Mo): Did you get the info on the trays yet Tony? I saw where Charlene actually got her order
06/30/05 20:10:40 Tony__IL: what's up down south?
06/30/05 20:10:56 Tony__IL: Haven't got the info from the company yet
06/30/05 20:10:59 Brenda_Al: hot and humid
06/30/05 20:11:10 Okie Logs in [68.12.244.136]
06/30/05 20:11:13 sherry__(Mo): Brenda, did you get any of this rain?
06/30/05 20:11:19 Okie: Hi all
06/30/05 20:11:21 sherry__(Mo): Hi Charlene
06/30/05 20:11:25 Tony__IL: would also like to find a source for pot and shipping materials
06/30/05 20:11:28 Brenda_Al: just a little
06/30/05 20:11:48 Tony__IL: Do you all speak with a southern accent. LOL
06/30/05 20:11:50 sherry__(Mo): We got it big time here but we really needed it
06/30/05 20:12:08 sherry__(Mo): Can your friend give you any sources to contact Tony?
06/30/05 20:12:17 sherry__(Mo): LOL Tony!
06/30/05 20:12:21 Brenda_Al: is there any other way to talk
06/30/05 20:12:31 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/30/05 20:12:33 Tony__IL: called the local greenhouse for the pots and waiting for an answer
06/30/05 20:13:05 sherry__(Mo): You retire so now we're going to put you back to work!
06/30/05 20:13:34 Tony__IL: at least I am my own boss on this one
06/30/05 20:13:37 sherry__(Mo): Ok Charlene, tell us how many plants you have!!
06/30/05 20:13:46 sherry__(Mo): That makes a difference Tony!
06/30/05 20:14:47 sherry__(Mo): You can be the boss man Tony, and have the son do the work!
06/30/05 20:15:15 Tony__IL: if I can get him out of bed before noon LOL
06/30/05 20:15:20 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/30/05 20:16:31 sherry__(Mo): How are your AV's doing Brenda?
06/30/05 20:16:50 Tony__IL: any of you use the fish emusion or the kelp/seaweed extract?
06/30/05 20:17:14 sherry__(Mo): I haven't---yet anyway
06/30/05 20:17:14 Brenda_Al: trying to get rid of thrips
06/30/05 20:17:31 sherry__(Mo): Darn Brenda! what are you using?
06/30/05 20:17:34 Tony__IL: have you tried the safer soap, Brenda
06/30/05 20:18:08 Brenda_Al: I'm new to all of this. Yes on the safe soap
06/30/05 20:18:43 Okie Logs in [68.12.244.136]
06/30/05 20:19:34 Okie: My stupid modem is going out so if I get knocked off I'll be back.
06/30/05 20:19:40 Brenda_Al: had avs off and on. started to get serios and got the thrips
06/30/05 20:19:47 Tony__IL: Brenda, since the critters are probably at different stages in their life cycle, you'll probably have to use the spray over a few weeks
06/30/05 20:19:57 sherry__(Mo): I've never had thrips-knock on wood! But one of the guys at the local club last year had some on his sales plants
06/30/05 20:20:22 sherry__(Mo): Have you disbudded everything  Brenda?
06/30/05 20:20:44 Brenda_Al: yes and that was a heart breaker
06/30/05 20:21:25 Brenda_Al: had to put down my cat this week, do the blooms went on his grave
06/30/05 20:21:47 Brenda_Al: so not do
06/30/05 20:22:04 sherry__(Mo): So sorry to hear about your  cat-they are definitly family members
06/30/05 20:22:53 Brenda_Al: just been a sad week. but will get going if my avs make it
06/30/05 20:23:12 sherry__(Mo): I used to hate disbudding plants before I brought them home-I wanted the family to see the blooms-but it does get easier with time
06/30/05 20:23:27 Tony__IL: they teach you patience
06/30/05 20:23:27 sherry__(Mo): AV's are a great antidepressant!
06/30/05 20:23:41 Brenda_Al: I didn't know to do that
06/30/05 20:23:58 Okie: Ok, I can't tell you exactly how many plants and leaves I ended up with, but it started out as 35 plants or plantlets
06/30/05 20:24:07 sherry__(Mo): Yes, I disbud anything before it comes in the house
06/30/05 20:24:26 sherry__(Mo): That will keep you busy for sawhile Charlene!!
06/30/05 20:24:39 Okie: I still have more to put up tomorrow, been working on them for two days now... what a thrill... boy, I have the sickness LOL
06/30/05 20:24:40 Brenda_Al: love learning from you guys
06/30/05 20:24:44 Tony__IL: someone mentioned to do that with plants from a show. Would think they'd know better that to bring an infected plant
06/30/05 20:25:29 Okie: Am I suppose to debud all my new plants...?  :(
06/30/05 20:25:40 sherry__(Mo): I couldn't believe it Tony! He was a newbie that thought he'd get rich selling-he hasn't been to any meetings this year so I guess he didn't get rich LOL
06/30/05 20:25:50 Tony__IL: think I would just as a precaution
06/30/05 20:25:58 sherry__(Mo): I agree
06/30/05 20:25:59 Okie: Shoot I didn't do that, I forgot
06/30/05 20:26:07 Okie: I have them all in isolation
06/30/05 20:26:24 Okie: I put all the one's from one place together, on community mat, will that work
06/30/05 20:26:33 sherry__(Mo): I've aboout ran out of places to use for isolation LOL
06/30/05 20:26:36 Brenda_Al: how long for isolation
06/30/05 20:26:56 Tony__IL: depends on how much of a problem a bad plant would create for you.
06/30/05 20:26:59 Okie: and the bigger ones I got from pjviolets I put each in it's own bag.
06/30/05 20:27:07 Okie: LOL Tony
06/30/05 20:27:21 Okie: wouldn't be to big a problem three days ago, now omg
06/30/05 20:27:36 Brenda_Al: whats the bag for
06/30/05 20:27:41 Tony__IL: if you have 4 plants, no big deal, if you have 100+ not a BIG deal
06/30/05 20:27:42 Okie: isolation
06/30/05 20:27:57 Tony__IL: now a big deal
06/30/05 20:28:07 sherry__(Mo): Right Tony!
06/30/05 20:28:26 Okie: Ok would it be alright to tell you guys how I handled these to see if I did it right?
06/30/05 20:28:43 Tony__IL: Isolate by whatever, bags, domes, etc.
06/30/05 20:28:57 Tony__IL: sure Okie
06/30/05 20:29:04 Okie: I unwrapped them all, took off any broken leaves and soaked the leaves in bleach water
06/30/05 20:29:24 Okie: then rinsed and put them in a superthrive soak while I worked the plants
06/30/05 20:30:06 Okie: With the plants, I knocked off as much dirt as I could, then rinsed the roots, rinsed the plant leafs in the bleach bath, then rinsed
06/30/05 20:30:39 Okie: and potted up into small cups with drainage holes cut into them :), in Pats mix
06/30/05 20:31:02 Okie: and put them on the community mat in the new PERMANEST trays I got today
06/30/05 20:31:10 Okie: Sound alright so far
06/30/05 20:31:29 sherry__(Mo): :p Lucky!
06/30/05 20:31:39 Okie: I know :)
06/30/05 20:32:06 Okie: Do you see anything I did wrong, except for debudding?
06/30/05 20:32:13 sherry__(Mo): See how much nicer the permanest trays are instead of the black or gray trays?
06/30/05 20:32:25 Okie: They are awesome
06/30/05 20:32:39 Okie: Tony I will need lots when you get them LOL
06/30/05 20:32:57 sherry__(Mo): I've only got 2 that's why I want more
06/30/05 20:33:18 Okie: I made the mistake of buying little ones 8X12 or such, so I am trying to figure out what to do with those, but I did get three big ones with domes.
06/30/05 20:33:53 sherry__(Mo): You'll find a use for the small ones!
06/30/05 20:34:11 Okie: Was I runnin off at the mouth :o  Sorry about that
06/30/05 20:34:23 Okie: I am just so excited :D
06/30/05 20:34:45 Brenda_Al: boy do I fell really dumb. a whole lot to learn.. tell me more about this tray, please
06/30/05 20:35:01 sherry__(Mo): You rinsd the plant leaves in a bleach bath? Did you dry the crown good?
06/30/05 20:35:27 Brenda_Al: and really cant spell either
06/30/05 20:35:50 sherry__(Mo): They are a heavier tray and really worth the extra money because they don't develop leaks and cracks like the other trays do
06/30/05 20:36:26 sherry__(Mo): Brenda-don't worry about spelling-LOL-they ignore my spelling and typing!
06/30/05 20:36:33 Brenda_Al: who did you order from
06/30/05 20:36:40 Okie: Yes I did, I actually let them sit on paper towels
06/30/05 20:36:40 Brenda_Al: thanks
06/30/05 20:36:52 Okie: and then checked the crowns when I potted them
06/30/05 20:36:55 sherry__(Mo): LOL-we're hoping to order from Tony soon!
06/30/05 20:37:12 Brenda_Al: sounds good
06/30/05 20:37:31 Okie: Yes, because where we were getting them takes FOREVER
06/30/05 20:37:32 sherry__(Mo): Cape Cod carries them-if they bother to send your order-LOL
06/30/05 20:37:38 Okie: LOL
06/30/05 20:37:45 Okie: I feel bad sherry
06/30/05 20:37:54 Okie: *)
06/30/05 20:37:58 sherry__(Mo): Don't feel bad Charlene!
06/30/05 20:38:07 Okie: Actually feel blessed that I actually got them
06/30/05 20:38:26 sherry__(Mo): and the timing was perfect!
06/30/05 20:38:34 Okie: No doubt
06/30/05 20:38:59 Okie: If I had gotten them earlier they would have been full of leaves and I would not of had any for the plants :?
06/30/05 20:39:21 sherry__(Mo): Sue (local member) has some that are ancient and they still do a fine job-no cracks or leaks
06/30/05 20:39:34 Okie: They really are awesome.
06/30/05 20:39:46 Okie: And in case you havent figured out something
06/30/05 20:39:53 Brenda_Al: brb
06/30/05 20:39:59 sherry__(Mo): The cheap ones, I've been having to double because they develop leaks
06/30/05 20:40:00 Okie: You know the lids don't fit tight like I thought they would
06/30/05 20:40:23 sherry__(Mo): I think Jana said she tapes hers to isolate
06/30/05 20:40:44 Okie: I used these little black metal notebook clip on each end and they are tight now
06/30/05 20:40:58 Okie: It is an easy way to be able to get in and out of them too
06/30/05 20:40:58 sherry__(Mo): what ever works!
06/30/05 20:41:11 Okie: What do you use Sherry?
06/30/05 20:41:36 Tony__IL: be right back, Mom on the phone
06/30/05 20:41:54 sherry__(Mo): For isolation? I have them in a different room-right now I just have 2 in isolation-here in the computer room
06/30/05 20:41:54 Okie: brb
06/30/05 20:42:35 sherry__(Mo): Help!! I'm all by myself LOL
06/30/05 20:42:55 sherry__(Mo): :o  :o  *)
06/30/05 20:43:19 Okie: :<
06/30/05 20:43:23 Okie: I'm back
06/30/05 20:43:48 Okie: Sherry, did you see anything else I should do
06/30/05 20:44:29 Okie: When you say debud, does that mean all bloom stalks or just actual flowers?
06/30/05 20:44:46 sherry__(Mo): Some people don't repot when they first get theirs-I do so I can check them out and so they can get used to my soil mix
06/30/05 20:45:02 sherry__(Mo): I take off all the stalks
06/30/05 20:45:28 sherry__(Mo): I use a preventative in my mix-so far so good
06/30/05 20:46:27 sherry__(Mo): I've just been using that Bonide (that I got from Cape Cod last year) and so far I haven't seen any evidence of bugs
06/30/05 20:47:03 Tony__IL: back now. Will let you know when I get the trays and shipping figured out.
06/30/05 20:47:19 sherry__(Mo): Good Ya gonna do it Tony?!
06/30/05 20:47:47 sherry__(Mo): Don't do it because we're pushing you into it though!!
06/30/05 20:48:03 Tony__IL: like where do you get a box 23x12x6 ?
06/30/05 20:48:24 sherry__(Mo): I bet Jana would know
06/30/05 20:48:29 Okie: Is Bonide like marathon?  I got some of that from Jana and put it in all of mine except the leaf pots
06/30/05 20:48:48 sherry__(Mo): I think Marathon is supposed to be better
06/30/05 20:49:00 Brenda_Al: I'm back
06/30/05 20:49:05 Okie: Good, would you have put it in the leaf cups too
06/30/05 20:49:05 sherry__(Mo): good!
06/30/05 20:49:16 Tony__IL: Bonide is a systemic?
06/30/05 20:49:45 sherry__(Mo): yes, I got it from Cape Cod last year but I think they sell it here
06/30/05 20:49:48 Okie: I was just looking at my new tray that I was using the dome on and I am mat watering with it, is that a no no?
06/30/05 20:50:00 Okie: There is a lot of moisture on the lid already
06/30/05 20:50:39 Tony__IL: tip the lid and let some air in or wipe the lid off
06/30/05 20:50:45 sherry__(Mo): Were the plants on the wet side or the dry side when you got hem Charlene?
06/30/05 20:50:52 sherry__(Mo): I agree with Tony
06/30/05 20:51:06 Okie: OBTW  today really was like Christmas, I got my new AV magazine in the mail too
06/30/05 20:51:15 Okie: They were real wet
06/30/05 20:51:26 sherry__(Mo): Del suggest not putting under lights for a day when you transplant so I've been doing that too
06/30/05 20:51:27 Okie: But I repoted them and just put them on the mat
06/30/05 20:51:38 Tony__IL: my mag too, but can't find the last one LOL
06/30/05 20:52:00 sherry__(Mo): I got mine the other day but haven't had time to read it yet
06/30/05 20:52:14 Okie: Ok, they will come out from under the lights,only were under them for about three hours today
06/30/05 20:52:18 Tony__IL: just watch for over-watering, then, Okie
06/30/05 20:52:39 Okie: But I don't understand how you control overwatering when you are mat watering
06/30/05 20:52:46 sherry__(Mo): Yep-you don't want to drown them
06/30/05 20:53:00 Okie: I'm so confused *)
06/30/05 20:53:10 Tony__IL: pull them out of the matting as they would be too wet in the soil
06/30/05 20:53:10 sherry__(Mo): Alot depends on your soil mix-it can get overwatered if your mix is too heavy
06/30/05 20:53:33 Okie: I used the pats mix
06/30/05 20:54:02 Tony__IL: put them on some newspapers and let the excess water drain off if needed.
06/30/05 20:54:07 sherry__(Mo): did you get it from Jana already made up?
06/30/05 20:54:29 Okie: No, I bought all the stuff from her and mixed it myself :?
06/30/05 20:54:41 Okie: She wasn't offering premixed at the time LOL
06/30/05 20:54:46 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/30/05 20:55:02 Tony__IL: 5 gallon bucket or a cement mixer? LOL
06/30/05 20:55:09 Okie: LOL
06/30/05 20:55:14 sherry__(Mo): I don't remeber her ratio for the perlite-I use more perlite than alot of people I think
06/30/05 20:55:15 Okie: 5 gallon
06/30/05 20:55:26 sherry__(Mo): BRB
06/30/05 20:55:50 Tony__IL: Oh, a small batch of it?
06/30/05 20:56:02 Okie: that is what I am worried about, what should I be using with the mat watering, I thought Pats mix was what Jana said
06/30/05 20:56:21 sherry__(Mo): That's what Jana uses
06/30/05 20:56:25 Okie: Yes, a small batch and it is almost gone
06/30/05 20:56:28 sherry__(Mo): and she mats
06/30/05 20:56:56 Okie: Ok, so how do you tell if they are getting to much, should the tops be dry?
06/30/05 20:57:11 Tony__IL: put a pot filled with the mix in the matting NO PLANT. See what it looks like after 7-10 days. Should know if you need to change the mix a little.
06/30/05 20:57:30 sherry__(Mo): -you want them evenly MOIST
06/30/05 20:57:32 Okie: Will do, Tony thanks
06/30/05 20:57:39 Tony__IL: tops just moist or wet to the touch
06/30/05 20:58:01 sherry__(Mo): Are we confusing you Brenda?
06/30/05 20:58:02 Okie: My pats mix was pretty dry, so I misted them after I potted them and set them on the mat
06/30/05 20:58:06 Tony__IL: damp not wet I guess
06/30/05 20:58:33 Brenda_Al: not even gonna say a word lol
06/30/05 20:58:53 sherry__(Mo): If you've got any questions, we'll try to answer them
06/30/05 20:58:56 Okie: I'm sorry Brenda, I am running off at the mouth again.
06/30/05 20:58:58 Brenda_Al: duh
06/30/05 20:59:01 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/30/05 20:59:06 Okie: lol
06/30/05 20:59:16 Brenda_Al: but I'm learning
06/30/05 20:59:39 sherry__(Mo): We're all learning too! All the time-right Tony?!
06/30/05 20:59:43 Okie: I have taped my fingers Brenda, hurry and ask your questions before they get loose again :/
06/30/05 20:59:51 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/30/05 21:00:10 Brenda_Al: cute!
06/30/05 21:00:23 Okie: :(
06/30/05 21:00:27 sherry__(Mo): what do you use when you pot up your AV's Brenda?
06/30/05 21:00:28 Tony__IL: right Sherry. If I knew everything all my leaves would be growing fine
06/30/05 21:00:41 sherry__(Mo): LOL-I know what you mean Tony!
06/30/05 21:01:14 Brenda_Al: peat moss perlite and vic
06/30/05 21:01:16 Tony__IL: and all the plants would be blue ribbon ones LOL
06/30/05 21:01:36 sherry__(Mo): What works for one person may ot work for someone else, we just have to figure out what works for us in our own environment
06/30/05 21:02:18 sherry__(Mo): I still can't get a leaf to root in water!
06/30/05 21:02:43 Tony__IL: start with a small bowl, Brenda and mix it up 1:1:1 or 2:2:1 and see what it looks like. Also try the pot with no plant I suggested
06/30/05 21:03:02 Okie: I have 10 jars with rooted leafs in sugar water Sherry
06/30/05 21:03:06 Brenda_Al: I can but don't always transplant well
06/30/05 21:03:19 Okie: Rooted only, no mouse ears, an experiment
06/30/05 21:03:23 sherry__(Mo): :p
06/30/05 21:03:43 Brenda_Al: thanks for infro
06/30/05 21:03:45 sherry__(Mo): I've tried and tried but mine always rot
06/30/05 21:03:46 Okie: :) After all what good are rooted leafs?
06/30/05 21:03:52 Tony__IL: vermic holds the water, a little more than peat. Perlite gives it a little air, does not absorb water
06/30/05 21:04:48 Okie: Why does all the perlite come to the top of the pot when you water Tony?
06/30/05 21:04:59 sherry__(Mo): It's lighter
06/30/05 21:05:08 Tony__IL: If you can grab a handful of the mix when damp and it stays in a ball, it's too wet. You need it to crumble
06/30/05 21:05:12 Okie: But what good is it there :<
06/30/05 21:05:30 sherry__(Mo): It isn't all at the top is it?!
06/30/05 21:05:39 Tony__IL: perlite floats, doesn't soak up the water
06/30/05 21:06:02 Okie: I don't know, it just looks like it is  :D
06/30/05 21:06:26 Brenda_Al: what do you use and the ratio
06/30/05 21:06:51 Tony__IL: 3:2:1 peat:perl:vermic
06/30/05 21:07:26 Okie: Really, is this for plants, leafs, mat watering, what Tony?
06/30/05 21:07:36 Tony__IL: everything
06/30/05 21:07:43 sherry__(Mo): 1 vermiculite, 1 peat, 1 1/2 perlite is what I use
06/30/05 21:07:49 Tony__IL: all mat watered, Okie
06/30/05 21:07:52 Okie: I thought that would be too heavy
06/30/05 21:08:05 Okie: I'm confused again :/
06/30/05 21:08:26 Brenda_Al: you should be me
06/30/05 21:08:31 sherry__(Mo): LOL-just teasing-are you a blond Charlene?!
06/30/05 21:08:37 Brenda_Al: duh
06/30/05 21:08:41 Tony__IL: depends on your growing conditions, may be a lott more or less humid, eyc.
06/30/05 21:08:42 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/30/05 21:09:03 Tony__IL: etc
06/30/05 21:10:13 Tony__IL: Pat's mix may work in Ohio, but not in OK, CA or Az
06/30/05 21:10:16 sherry__(Mo): If your mix is too heavy, add peelite to make it lighter
06/30/05 21:10:30 sherry__(Mo): sorry-supposed to be perlite
06/30/05 21:10:31 Tony__IL: see what works for you
06/30/05 21:10:46 Tony__IL: and when you find it STICK WITH IT
06/30/05 21:11:00 sherry__(Mo): "peelite" might kill it-LOL
06/30/05 21:11:21 Okie: Sorry just got dinner
06/30/05 21:11:31 Okie: Yes I am a blonde actually
06/30/05 21:11:37 sherry__(Mo): Do you wick yours Brenda?
06/30/05 21:11:53 sherry__(Mo): LOL_justteasing Charlene!!
06/30/05 21:12:13 Brenda_Al: and I may not live long enough to get my mix right
06/30/05 21:12:17 Okie: I don't know if peelite would chicken poop doesn't LOL
06/30/05 21:12:52 sherry__(Mo): My hair is naturally frosted (with grey-LOL-but I've earned those grey streaks!)
06/30/05 21:13:00 Brenda_Al: no, but figure that is next
06/30/05 21:13:25 sherry__(Mo): Just have to experiment Brenda, so many AV's grown comercially are in too heavy of a mix
06/30/05 21:14:15 Tony__IL: espically the ones at the Wally Marts/grocery stores are WAY too heavy
06/30/05 21:14:26 sherry__(Mo): Are there any local clubs in your area Brenda?
06/30/05 21:14:57 sherry__(Mo): I agree Tony! But when they don't get watered, I guess it doesn't make much difference!
06/30/05 21:15:07 Brenda_Al Logs in [12.217.40.181]
06/30/05 21:15:19 Brenda_Al: guess I need to stick with the noid until I get this down pat
06/30/05 21:15:33 sherry__(Mo): whew-thought we scared you off Brenda!
06/30/05 21:15:38 Okie: LOL
06/30/05 21:15:39 Brenda_Al: got knock off
06/30/05 21:16:04 sherry__(Mo): And sign up for The Share The Joy program (info is in files)
06/30/05 21:16:05 Tony__IL: you don't get it down, you just learn a little more, Brenda.  LOL
06/30/05 21:16:27 Okie: All you can do is jump in and have fun
06/30/05 21:16:34 Brenda_Al: you may be tryng, but I don't take hints  lol
06/30/05 21:16:56 Okie: It's all about hurry up and wait :p
06/30/05 21:17:06 sherry__(Mo): It is definitly a learning experience-I don't know how many I drowned before I finally figured out how to make it work for me
06/30/05 21:17:44 Brenda_Al: aready losing sleep over avs
06/30/05 21:17:51 sherry__(Mo): And most of us started out with NOIDS
06/30/05 21:18:04 Okie: And I still love my noids
06/30/05 21:18:08 Okie: is that wrong
06/30/05 21:18:18 Okie: :(
06/30/05 21:18:21 Tony__IL: heck, when I started I didn't know there were named plants
06/30/05 21:18:22 Brenda_Al: lol
06/30/05 21:18:26 sherry__(Mo): one of these days you'll be losing sleep-trying to figure out where to put them all!
06/30/05 21:18:27 Okie: Me either
06/30/05 21:18:37 Okie: LOL Sherry
06/30/05 21:18:40 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.159.85.131]
06/30/05 21:18:42 Okie: That is my problem now
06/30/05 21:18:45 sherry__(Mo): I was amased when I saw a varigated one!!
06/30/05 21:18:46 Okie: Hi Jana
06/30/05 21:18:53 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry I'm late!
06/30/05 21:18:55 sherry__(Mo): There's Jana!!
06/30/05 21:19:05 Tony__IL: Hi Jana, just talking about you. LOL
06/30/05 21:19:06 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Brenda, Charlene, Sherry & Tony!
06/30/05 21:19:14 sherry__(Mo): Guess we'll stop talking about you-just teasing!
06/30/05 21:19:21 Okie: Are you doing okay tonite Jana?
06/30/05 21:19:36 Jana_in_Indiana: if you have nothing better to do that that, go ahead!  :P
06/30/05 21:19:42 Brenda_Al: why don't the wally world have names. whats up with that
06/30/05 21:19:48 Jana_in_Indiana: I guess, Okie
06/30/05 21:19:53 sherry__(Mo): It was ALL BAD-LOL!!
06/30/05 21:20:16 Tony__IL: cheaper to produce and most people don't know Brenda
06/30/05 21:20:18 Jana_in_Indiana: good!
06/30/05 21:20:21 Okie: I wonder the same thing Brenda
06/30/05 21:20:42 Jana_in_Indiana: it's all about money, & them getting more bang for the buck!
06/30/05 21:20:56 Brenda_Al: I assume they aren't listed
06/30/05 21:21:16 Jana_in_Indiana: T - we just did get home, my mom went too -- gawd!  had to hit every aisle!
06/30/05 21:21:28 sherry__(Mo): where'd ya go Jana?
06/30/05 21:21:32 Okie: LOL Jana
06/30/05 21:21:36 Okie: sounds like me
06/30/05 21:21:37 Tony__IL: Wally Mart ?
06/30/05 21:21:39 Jana_in_Indiana: Meijer & Walmart
06/30/05 21:21:44 sherry__(Mo): Oh no!
06/30/05 21:21:50 Okie: Whats Meijer?
06/30/05 21:21:55 Tony__IL: knew Wally was in there someplace LOL
06/30/05 21:21:57 Okie: Haven't heard of that store
06/30/05 21:22:15 Jana_in_Indiana: going to Debbie's Sat, going to plant LOTS of flowers so she at least has some blooms to look at her last days
06/30/05 21:22:28 sherry__(Mo): That's sweet Jana
06/30/05 21:22:36 Okie: Sorry Jana, can you explain?
06/30/05 21:22:40 Jana_in_Indiana: Meijer is as big as Walmart Supercenter, but a bit higher priced
06/30/05 21:22:59 Okie: Isn't everything higher priced than wm?
06/30/05 21:23:00 sherry__(Mo): We don't have one of those in my area
06/30/05 21:23:14 Jana_in_Indiana: she's dying of cancer, it's my sister in law, but we're closer than my real sister, she's 48
06/30/05 21:23:32 sherry__(Mo): Think positive-Jana, maybe the chemo will help
06/30/05 21:23:36 Brenda_Al: so sad
06/30/05 21:23:42 Okie: Jana I am so sorry
06/30/05 21:24:04 Jana_in_Indiana: just diagnosed 1 week ago, & it's so bad can't do surgery - said chemo *might* give her 4 to 18 months, if it works REALLY well
06/30/05 21:24:27 Jana_in_Indiana: so what did I rudely interrupt?
06/30/05 21:24:51 sherry__(Mo): trays, Charlene's new additions, soil mix
06/30/05 21:24:57 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/30/05 21:24:58 Brenda_Al: educating me
06/30/05 21:25:09 sherry__(Mo): Charlene is a blond  lol
06/30/05 21:25:13 Jana_in_Indiana: we ALL need to be educated!
06/30/05 21:25:14 Okie: Trying to give Brenda courage to carry on with her AV addiction
06/30/05 21:25:17 Tony__IL: ask the questions Brenda
06/30/05 21:25:41 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, we'll help her with the addiction, how many of my greenies do you want Brenda?
06/30/05 21:25:49 Brenda_Al: I'm better at listening
06/30/05 21:25:49 Tony__IL: I could tell she was blond by her accent. LOL
06/30/05 21:25:54 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/30/05 21:25:55 Jana_in_Indiana: greenies = non-variegated
06/30/05 21:25:57 Okie: If anyone has an answer it would be one of these three Brenda ;)
06/30/05 21:26:10 Jana_in_Indiana: Charlene, are you really blonde?
06/30/05 21:26:11 sherry__(Mo): No-Brenda is the one with the accent!
06/30/05 21:26:21 Tony__IL: oh, OK
06/30/05 21:26:24 Brenda_Al: lol
06/30/05 21:26:25 Okie: are ya talkin bout me Tony?
06/30/05 21:26:28 Okie: LOL
06/30/05 21:26:50 sherry__(Mo): Or maybe there is a southern accent and a blond accent!
06/30/05 21:26:55 Jana_in_Indiana: slow down & give Brenda a chance to type, LOL
06/30/05 21:26:57 Okie: lol
06/30/05 21:27:03 Tony__IL: ??? Could be
06/30/05 21:27:15 Okie: BRB
06/30/05 21:27:18 Brenda_Al: I'm just a dixie darlin
06/30/05 21:27:23 sherry__(Mo): Brenda fits in just great Jana!
06/30/05 21:27:33 Brenda_Al: no blond here
06/30/05 21:27:34 Jana_in_Indiana: great!  Then you have manners !!!
06/30/05 21:27:57 sherry__(Mo): More than you can say about the rest of us, right, Jana? Ok-I'll be nice
06/30/05 21:28:00 Brenda_Al: manner no brains about avs
06/30/05 21:28:20 sherry__(Mo): Brenda, we've all been there!
06/30/05 21:28:22 Jana_in_Indiana: you'll learn, take it slow, we all were where you are now, once
06/30/05 21:28:42 Jana_in_Indiana: just learn what you need for today, the rest will come later
06/30/05 21:29:02 Tony__IL: If you haven't figured it out yet, Brenda, this is a pretty let 'er rip type group
06/30/05 21:29:08 Brenda_Al: are you surelol
06/30/05 21:29:18 sherry__(Mo): How long have you had your AV's Brenda?
06/30/05 21:29:25 Jana_in_Indiana: YES!  I'm very sure!
06/30/05 21:29:31 Brenda_Al: its a good group
06/30/05 21:30:07 Jana_in_Indiana: these chats are very informal, except if we have a guest speaker then we do try to keep order
06/30/05 21:30:12 Brenda_Al Logs in [12.217.40.181]
06/30/05 21:30:19 Jana_in_Indiana: quick trip!
06/30/05 21:30:25 Brenda_Al: long enoug to get thrips this week
06/30/05 21:30:36 Brenda_Al: getting knocked off
06/30/05 21:30:38 Jana_in_Indiana: oh,you have thrips?
06/30/05 21:31:05 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm sure Tony & Sherry covered what you should do for them, right?
06/30/05 21:31:06 Brenda_Al: as I hang my head...yes
06/30/05 21:31:26 Brenda_Al: fell like a bad mother
06/30/05 21:31:49 Jana_in_Indiana: no, don't feel bad!  The fit through the spaces in screen, it's not your fault!
06/30/05 21:32:11 Jana_in_Indiana: if we don't have them & haven't ever had them, we know we will someday!
06/30/05 21:32:27 Tony__IL: every time you see another blossom with them, take it to the porch and step on it really hard. Doesn't really help but you'll feel better LOL
06/30/05 21:32:28 Okie: Is there something to look for to know you have thrips, are there signs?
06/30/05 21:32:39 sherry__(Mo): Sue is a master judge (25 years) and she has had them!
06/30/05 21:32:42 Jana_in_Indiana: spilled pollen
06/30/05 21:32:48 Brenda_Al: lol
06/30/05 21:33:05 Jana_in_Indiana: yellowish powder on the petals of the blooms
06/30/05 21:33:10 Okie: I know but any other?
06/30/05 21:33:21 Jana_in_Indiana: or streaks on the leaves, like silver lines, small
06/30/05 21:33:22 Brenda_Al: thats it
06/30/05 21:33:30 Tony__IL: pollen on the petals. Looks like someone spread  it on the blossom
06/30/05 21:34:02 Jana_in_Indiana: you already cover what she should do S & T?
06/30/05 21:34:10 sherry__(Mo): But Brenda, you already knew enough to identify your problem-I'd say that's good
06/30/05 21:34:30 Brenda_Al: all i have is wm avs, but they were so pretty
06/30/05 21:34:39 Jana_in_Indiana: yes!  Lots of people either don't know or are in denial about having bugs
06/30/05 21:34:52 Brenda_Al: thanks to reading on this site
06/30/05 21:34:59 sherry__(Mo): I've been really lucky
06/30/05 21:35:09 Brenda_Al: this is a great place
06/30/05 21:35:13 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, that's what I had to start, but I did get some Ultra Violets there, with names!
06/30/05 21:35:50 Tony__IL: yes we covered it J
06/30/05 21:35:58 Brenda_Al: some have names and some don't
06/30/05 21:35:58 Jana_in_Indiana: now I always check to see if any AV at Walmart are double potted, 2 pots together, remove the outer pot & find the name on the inner one
06/30/05 21:36:14 Brenda_Al: right
06/30/05 21:36:47 Jana_in_Indiana: are the groups quiet tonight or did more $#!& break loose?  LOL!  Seems to always happen if I'm away!
06/30/05 21:37:17 Tony__IL: try to get it named, but if you show it with the wrong name, they will disqualify the plant
06/30/05 21:37:25 Brenda_Al: I was ready to order real avs this week. glad i didn't get to it
06/30/05 21:38:09 Jana_in_Indiana: how many do you have Brenda?
06/30/05 21:38:12 Tony__IL: Brenda, would suggest a swap of a named vendor and not eBay. Would be a lot cheaper.
06/30/05 21:38:18 Brenda_Al: can you show a wm violet
06/30/05 21:38:25 sherry__(Mo): Have you tried putting down leaves yet?
06/30/05 21:38:39 Tony__IL: probably not a wm violet
06/30/05 21:38:58 Okie: Brenda, don't order, it is a waste of money right now
06/30/05 21:39:01 sherry__(Mo): if it's a named one-I have gotten nsmed Optimara
06/30/05 21:39:11 Okie: these people will bless you with all the violets you can use
06/30/05 21:39:16 sherry__(Mo): -darn-I can't type!
06/30/05 21:39:18 Okie: believe me, I am living proof
06/30/05 21:39:45 Okie: I started out with 5 NOIDs the middle of April and now look at me
06/30/05 21:40:00 Jana_in_Indiana: you can show any violet from anywhere IF it is correctly named
06/30/05 21:40:10 Tony__IL: Can do a flood Brenda program when the heat lets up LOL
06/30/05 21:40:19 sherry__(Mo): that's for sure!
06/30/05 21:40:27 Jana_in_Indiana: are you wanting to show sometime Brenda?
06/30/05 21:40:48 Brenda_Al Disconnects
06/30/05 21:40:55 Tony__IL: look at the rules of the show as they may be different
06/30/05 21:41:08 Jana_in_Indiana: is the chat booting her or something else?
06/30/05 21:41:25 Tony__IL: I haven't had any problems
06/30/05 21:41:34 sherry__(Mo): I'm wondering if she's hitting the wrong keys
06/30/05 21:42:18 Jana_in_Indiana: that or weather?  Her pc?  haven't heard of anyone ever having problems with this chat -- yet!   :?
06/30/05 21:42:24 Jana_in_Indiana: might be
06/30/05 21:42:26 sherry__(Mo): I've had a good time at chat tonight!
06/30/05 21:42:29 Okie: She usually comes right back
06/30/05 21:42:46 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I see how you are Sherry, you like it when I'm gone! :P
06/30/05 21:42:50 Okie: Me too Sherry
06/30/05 21:42:58 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
06/30/05 21:43:03 Okie: Woops, not that Jana
06/30/05 21:43:05 sherry__(Mo): No-I've been harrassing Charlene!
06/30/05 21:43:09 Okie: :D
06/30/05 21:43:22 Jana_in_Indiana: uh huh, sure.....  :(
06/30/05 21:43:30 sherry__(Mo): Oh! Where can Tony get boxes for shipping us our trays!!
06/30/05 21:43:35 Okie: Yea she was doing it for you Jana LOL
06/30/05 21:43:40 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/30/05 21:43:47 Tony__IL: mstill working on all of it
06/30/05 21:44:02 Jana_in_Indiana: staples?  kinkos?  UPS?
06/30/05 21:44:13 Jana_in_Indiana: how much are the trays T?
06/30/05 21:44:13 sherry__(Mo): I told him you might know where to get boxes
06/30/05 21:44:15 Tony__IL: trays, boxes, shipping, etc.
06/30/05 21:44:37 Tony__IL: no price list yet, snail mail
06/30/05 21:44:51 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/30/05 21:44:52 sherry__(Mo): Some people get big ones and form to the siize they need-I'd think that would be work though
06/30/05 21:45:04 Okie: Hey Jana, should I be mat watering with a dome?
06/30/05 21:45:14 Jana_in_Indiana: also U-Haul has lots of big boxes
06/30/05 21:45:16 Tony__IL: got enough tape here to do it
06/30/05 21:45:29 Jana_in_Indiana: depends on how it's set up Okie
06/30/05 21:45:40 Okie: Like you showed on your pics
06/30/05 21:45:55 Okie: I did get the matting from Cape Cod
06/30/05 21:46:08 Okie: One layer, and used pats mix
06/30/05 21:46:42 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, in the pics, the cell pack/seedling tray is above the permanest tray, with space between the egg crate, the dome only sits on the cell pacl, not on the permanest tray, understand?
06/30/05 21:47:00 Okie: Tony, Sams Club sells boxes that might work, you can check online at samsclub.com
06/30/05 21:47:23 Tony__IL: can do Okie
06/30/05 21:47:27 sherry__(Mo): I hadn't thought about that!
06/30/05 21:47:35 Okie: Ok, so I can't use it sealed with
06/30/05 21:47:51 Jana_in_Indiana: or find someone at an appliance store to save you washer, dryer, frig, etc boxes, cut & make whatever you need
06/30/05 21:47:52 Okie: the plants down inside but above the water?
06/30/05 21:47:58 sherry__(Mo): Just get a U Haul Tony and bring them by
06/30/05 21:48:21 Okie: Yea, that's a good idea Tony LOL
06/30/05 21:48:23 Jana_in_Indiana: no, if sealed, with the mat being wet & the water below, they'd just rot
06/30/05 21:48:27 Tony__IL: right, Then I can just deliver them LOL
06/30/05 21:48:48 sherry__(Mo): Good-we'll go to lunch when you're here!
06/30/05 21:48:58 Tony__IL: youbuy
06/30/05 21:49:04 sherry__(Mo): Sure will!
06/30/05 21:49:09 Okie: Pick Jana up on the way, and she can deliver her goods.  You guys surely don't have better things to do LOL
06/30/05 21:49:17 sherry__(Mo): But you have to drive-I'm drinkin'!
06/30/05 21:49:41 Tony__IL: me too, John's driving
06/30/05 21:49:47 Okie: LOL
06/30/05 21:49:53 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/30/05 21:50:07 sherry__(Mo): I wss hoping Brenda would make it back
06/30/05 21:50:09 Jana_in_Indiana: you have NO idea Okie, I'm so busy, I forget to eat sometimes & am too tired when I do think of it
06/30/05 21:50:13 Tony__IL: he ain't got anything better to do
06/30/05 21:50:23 sherry__(Mo): Is that your son?
06/30/05 21:50:36 Okie: I WISH I would be too tired to eat ;)
06/30/05 21:50:37 Tony__IL: yes, a son
06/30/05 21:50:58 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, don't get the wrong idea, I'm way too fat!
06/30/05 21:51:01 sherry__(Mo): I've got a son in law that isn't very bust right now either Tony
06/30/05 21:51:25 Okie: Shoosh, we won't talk about that anymore :p
06/30/05 21:51:30 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/30/05 21:51:38 Tony__IL: 1 eat of the Miss. and one west then
06/30/05 21:51:51 Tony__IL: east
06/30/05 21:52:13 Okie: You almost had me there Tony, the two conversations seemed to merge LOL
06/30/05 21:52:17 Okie: 1 eat of the miss
06/30/05 21:52:54 Okie: Sorry, I'm getting tired, and I get nutty when I get tired :?
06/30/05 21:53:03 sherry__(Mo): I'm just setting here laughing-Nina wondrs what's going on
06/30/05 21:53:03 Tony__IL: kind of like a small version of Fed Ex
06/30/05 21:53:22 Jana_in_Indiana: Okie, what's your e-amil
06/30/05 21:53:31 Okie: dougsluv@cox.net
06/30/05 21:53:55 Tony__IL: if they merged Fed Ex with UPS would the name be Fed Up?
06/30/05 21:53:55 Jana_in_Indiana: I saw something being sold, like how I do my leaves, the photos show it really well, when I find the link I'll send it
06/30/05 21:54:25 Okie: Thanks, Jana
06/30/05 21:54:26 sherry__(Mo): Tony-good one!
06/30/05 21:54:39 Okie: I guess I have to rethink this setup AGAIN
06/30/05 21:55:03 sherry__(Mo): See you already have your company name Tony-LOL
06/30/05 21:55:16 Okie: Since I totally took my plants down to the roots and repotted in new pots, do they have to be undercover (isolation)
06/30/05 21:55:29 Okie: Or can they be left open on the matting?
06/30/05 21:55:35 sherry__(Mo): Yes, you still want to isolate
06/30/05 21:55:43 Tony__IL: no maybe thevioletroosteer like eBay
06/30/05 21:55:48 Okie: Tony's FEDUP LOL
06/30/05 21:56:17 sherry__(Mo): FedUp Violet Rooster
06/30/05 21:56:25 Okie: LOL
06/30/05 21:56:30 Okie: I like that Tony
06/30/05 21:56:52 sherry__(Mo): Violetrooster would be easy for people to remember
06/30/05 21:57:00 Okie: Ok, so isolation, does that mean in a covered way, or can they just be in their own room?
06/30/05 21:57:19 Jana_in_Indiana: air tight!
06/30/05 21:57:39 Jana_in_Indiana: and keep them that way for at least 3 months
06/30/05 21:57:50 Tony__IL: isolation can be different rooms, sealed up would be better if anything can fly
06/30/05 21:58:03 Jana_in_Indiana: mites are almost microscopic & the tinsiest crack can let them spread
06/30/05 21:58:09 Okie: Darnit how do can I do that with these permanest trays or can't I?
06/30/05 21:58:27 Jana_in_Indiana: seal them with wide tape, I do
06/30/05 21:58:35 Tony__IL: they have a lid on the trays
06/30/05 21:58:38 sherry__(Mo): Jana, didn't you say you tape your trays?
06/30/05 21:58:52 sherry__(Mo): Ya beat me!
06/30/05 21:59:01 Jana_in_Indiana: http://www.burpee.com/shopping/product/viewMorePhotos.jsp?iProductID=4057&itemNum=93184&count=1
06/30/05 21:59:09 Jana_in_Indiana: see if that link works
06/30/05 21:59:19 Okie: But without the matting Jana, then how is the best way to water
06/30/05 21:59:28 Tony__IL: J, how did you do that so dang fast?
06/30/05 21:59:40 Okie: Whats that for Jana
06/30/05 21:59:43 Jana_in_Indiana: ain't easy!
06/30/05 21:59:45 sherry__(Mo): If they are covered, they won't need to be watered as often
06/30/05 21:59:53 Jana_in_Indiana: doing leaves the way I do
06/30/05 22:00:08 Okie: the site
06/30/05 22:00:14 Okie: okay
06/30/05 22:00:41 Jana_in_Indiana: someone, never found out who, sent me 2 of those for Christmas, that's what got me doing it this way!
06/30/05 22:01:33 sherry__(Mo): That was nice of someone
06/30/05 22:02:28 sherry__(Mo): I'd better get off here. Hope you all have a nice weekend! And a happy 4th!
06/30/05 22:03:01 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out
06/30/05 22:03:24 Jana_in_Indiana: am I still here?
06/30/05 22:03:34 Okie: You are if I am
06/30/05 22:03:45 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, it locked up for a while
06/30/05 22:03:46 Okie: I can't get that darn link to copy
06/30/05 22:03:53 Jana_in_Indiana: did you look at the link?
06/30/05 22:04:01 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll e-mail it
06/30/05 22:04:06 Okie: thanks
06/30/05 22:04:27 Tony__IL: see you two next week
06/30/05 22:05:01 Okie: I will check that out, I am running out of room with all the darn stuff I have bought to try to do this right GRRR
06/30/05 22:05:02 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Tony!
06/30/05 22:05:07 Jana_in_Indiana: have a great 4th!
06/30/05 22:05:08 Okie: Nite tony
06/30/05 22:05:16 Tony__IL Logs Out
06/30/05 22:05:31 Jana_in_Indiana: I sent the links
06/30/05 22:05:48 Okie: Jana, I'm sure you are exhausted, thanks for all you do and have a great holiday weekend. Stay safe ;)
06/30/05 22:05:51 Jana_in_Indiana: it's called the Ultimate Growing system, from Burpee.com
06/30/05 22:06:01 Jana_in_Indiana: you too!  G'nite!
06/30/05 22:06:02 Okie: I will be buying that too I'm sure LOL
06/30/05 22:06:11 Jana_in_Indiana: no, it's 20 bucks!
06/30/05 22:06:21 Jana_in_Indiana: you can DIY for about $5!
06/30/05 22:06:28 Okie: well, you know me whatever it takes
06/30/05 22:06:29 Okie: LOL
06/30/05 22:06:36 Jana_in_Indiana: Do It Yourself
06/30/05 22:06:50 Okie: I will do that, bless you ;)
06/30/05 22:06:58 Okie: talk to you next week
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06/30/05 22:07:09 Jana_in_Indiana: have a great holiday!  g'nite!
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