06/28/05 19:44:28 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.157.102.64]
06/28/05 19:45:33 TSViolets Logs in [24.236.76.134]
06/28/05 19:45:42 TSViolets: hi jana
06/28/05 19:45:53 TSViolets: kind of quiet in here
06/28/05 19:47:03 TSViolets Logs Out
06/28/05 19:51:35 Judith Logs in [69.9.104.137]
06/28/05 19:51:50 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Judith!
06/28/05 19:52:13 Jana_in_Indiana: at the bottom there is a long pink box, click in it & you type there
06/28/05 19:52:22 Judith: There I think I have this figured out!!
06/28/05 19:52:30 Jana_in_Indiana: YYEEEAAAA!!!!
06/28/05 19:52:38 Judith: No kidding!
06/28/05 19:52:57 Judith: I have been trying to catch a chat since March
06/28/05 19:52:59 Jana_in_Indiana: whatever you do, DO NOT click the last button on the lower right, in the row of buttons, it kicks you out!
06/28/05 19:53:19 Jana_in_Indiana: well, this time you made it!  :D
06/28/05 19:53:21 Judith: OK I'm onlygoing to type and hit send
06/28/05 19:53:34 Jana_in_Indiana: that's all you need to do
06/28/05 19:53:57 Judith: Is tonight supposed to be the chat for "beginners?"
06/28/05 19:54:14 Jana_in_Indiana: it's open chat, so you can ask anything you would like
06/28/05 19:54:33 Jana_in_Indiana: usually it's Del's beginners chat, but he's gone on a trip -- fishing I think
06/28/05 19:54:48 Judith: OK, Now are you called the Moderator for this meaning its your turn to be here for whomever chats?
06/28/05 19:55:21 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, Tony will be here too, everyone usually tried to help answer any questions they can
06/28/05 19:55:26 Jana_in_Indiana: it's very informal
06/28/05 19:55:47 Jana_in_Indiana: and sometimes we get down right silly!
06/28/05 19:55:48 Judith: Great!!
06/28/05 19:56:27 Judith: Are all the little buttons just bells & whistles?
06/28/05 19:56:39 Jana_in_Indiana: we only get serious when we have guest speakers -- we don't want to scare them off, LOL
06/28/05 19:57:01 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, you can choose a different color text, post smileys
06/28/05 19:57:14 Jana_in_Indiana: set it so you know the time a message is posted
06/28/05 19:57:34 Jana_in_Indiana: copy from the note pad by clicking the lined paper button
06/28/05 19:57:48 Jana_in_Indiana: + and - changes font size
06/28/05 19:58:05 Jana_in_Indiana: funny long thing erases the text already here, but only for you
06/28/05 19:58:49 Jana_in_Indiana: the 2 pages without lines make the window fload, but I have NO idea how to make it stop floating so I don't do that!
06/28/05 19:58:58 Judith: Well here's my problem but I think I may know maybe what is wrong.  My plants are all doing the wilt dance.  It's either too much water but I'm leaning more toward the fact that I've had to move them for the summer to a North window and the air from vent i
06/28/05 19:59:57 Jana_in_Indiana: first thing I'd do is check the stem of the plant, feel down into the soil, if it's soft, it's rotting
06/28/05 20:00:07 Judith: Wow, got cut off I guess.  The vent air is too chill for them.  I'm going to repot and then try the east window again.
06/28/05 20:00:31 Nik_MI Logs in [69.216.99.110]
06/28/05 20:00:38 Nik_MI: Hi
06/28/05 20:00:38 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi nik!
06/28/05 20:00:42 Judith: The one I'm checking isn't soft just droopy.
06/28/05 20:00:53 Nik_MI: oh good you found out how to get on judith
06/28/05 20:00:59 Nik_MI: :D
06/28/05 20:01:06 Judith: Yes thanks!
06/28/05 20:01:24 Jana_in_Indiana: I had 1 get chilled by the A/C vent & it did start to rot, had to unpot, cut off lots of the stem & roots & repot
06/28/05 20:01:33 Judith: Maybe its good the stem is not soft just droopy?
06/28/05 20:01:46 Jana_in_Indiana: the stem is droopy?
06/28/05 20:01:55 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
06/28/05 20:02:06 Jana_in_Indiana: I am talking about the stem, also called the neck
06/28/05 20:02:08 Nik_MI: the first leaf I put in got droopy the first few days then it firmed up again... so if you just potted it you're probably alright
06/28/05 20:02:09 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tony,
06/28/05 20:02:13 Nik_MI: hi tony
06/28/05 20:02:20 Tony__IL: Guess I'm a couple minutes late. Hi everyone
06/28/05 20:02:26 Judith: Yes several of the leaves just start to droop and preety soon the whole thing gets droopy.
06/28/05 20:02:39 Judith: Hi Tony
06/28/05 20:02:39 Jana_in_Indiana: I don't know how long the storms will let me be here tony
06/28/05 20:03:06 Jana_in_Indiana: how many plants in all are droopy Judith?
06/28/05 20:03:12 Judith: You are having storms?  we are just dying of heat.  102 degrees today.
06/28/05 20:03:36 Jana_in_Indiana: we had so much rain it filled the wheel barrow 3/4 full!
06/28/05 20:03:36 Okie Logs in [68.12.244.136]
06/28/05 20:03:39 Judith: Lets see about six interspersed with one or two that seem fine.
06/28/05 20:03:46 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Okie!  (Charlene)
06/28/05 20:03:52 Nik_MI: hi!
06/28/05 20:04:03 Tony__IL: Sent to you the mail J. Will cover things if needed. Send me some rain
06/28/05 20:04:12 Judith: Hi Charlene,  where inOK are you?  I'm in Claremore.
06/28/05 20:04:23 Okie: Hello everyone, can someone tell me what float means when you sign in?
06/28/05 20:04:24 Jana_in_Indiana: I'd unpot each one & make sure the stems/necks are firm, you'll have to remove any that is soft
06/28/05 20:04:30 Jana_in_Indiana: lol
06/28/05 20:04:48 Judith: Do I rinse off the roots with water to check?
06/28/05 20:04:49 Nik_MI: it makes the chat into a separate window
06/28/05 20:04:50 Tony__IL: oh gee, 2 Okie's. LOL
06/28/05 20:04:52 Okie: I'm in Stillwater Judith
06/28/05 20:04:57 Jana_in_Indiana: it makes the chat room float free from the box, but I don't know how to put it back Okie
06/28/05 20:04:59 Nik_MI Logs Out
06/28/05 20:05:16 Nik_MI Logs in [69.216.99.110]
06/28/05 20:05:29 Tony__IL Logs Out
06/28/05 20:05:30 Nik_MI: but beware... evidently if the chat's floating you can't close the window
06/28/05 20:05:31 Jana_in_Indiana: you should be able to tell by feeling & looking, healthy roots are cream or white
06/28/05 20:05:35 Okie: Yea now you're in trouble LOL
06/28/05 20:05:42 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
06/28/05 20:05:49 Jana_in_Indiana: WB Nik & Tony!
06/28/05 20:05:52 Nik_MI: lol
06/28/05 20:05:53 Okie: Hi Tony
06/28/05 20:06:12 Tony__IL: Seems like float is if there are several chats and you can float between them
06/28/05 20:06:17 Nik_MI: yeah
06/28/05 20:06:25 Nik_MI: did you try closing the original window too? lol
06/28/05 20:06:38 Jana_in_Indiana: you might end up having to cut the neck & not have any roots left, but they'll form when you repot it
06/28/05 20:06:48 Tony__IL: no I just exited and hit the float button
06/28/05 20:06:52 Nik_MI: ah
06/28/05 20:06:59 Jana_in_Indiana: have you ever had to pot down a long neck ?
06/28/05 20:07:06 Judith: You know what the funniest thing is about reading allthe e-mails is the shorthand language everyone uses.  Most I dont' know.  LOL i've got but it's funny reading and wondering sometimes.  I'm a teacher and you all seem very, very good at this much better
06/28/05 20:07:13 Nik_MI: there's a float button during chat too... it's two to the left of the exit button
06/28/05 20:07:50 Okie: thats the truth Judith, by the way everyone what does DH stand for?
06/28/05 20:07:58 Judith: I've never done a longneck and I just learned the last couple of months what one was.
06/28/05 20:08:08 Jana_in_Indiana: darling husband I think, maybe dear?
06/28/05 20:08:14 Okie: I thought perhaps, dead husband, dear husband, damp husband, LOL
06/28/05 20:08:16 Nik_MI: that's what i guessed when i saw it
06/28/05 20:08:21 Nik_MI: lol damp
06/28/05 20:08:24 Tony__IL: Dear Hubby
06/28/05 20:08:25 Nik_MI: i like that one
06/28/05 20:08:31 Okie: Me too
06/28/05 20:08:40 Okie: thats what I have
06/28/05 20:08:44 Judith: By the way why did a smiley pop up on my line back there aways?
06/28/05 20:08:52 Nik_MI: l o l
06/28/05 20:08:57 Nik_MI: turns into lol
06/28/05 20:08:57 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, you just need to s c r ape the neck with your fingernail to remove the brown dead outer covering
06/28/05 20:08:58 Tony__IL: how about DXW
06/28/05 20:08:59 Okie: or LOL
06/28/05 20:09:08 Tony__IL: Dear X Wife
06/28/05 20:09:11 Jana_in_Indiana: roots have a harder time growing through all that
06/28/05 20:09:27 Jana_in_Indiana: smiley came cause you typed L O L
06/28/05 20:09:45 Nik_MI: oh wow
06/28/05 20:09:52 Okie: I had to decapatate a NOID longneck I had
06/28/05 20:09:58 Nik_MI: i was wondering if it was censoring you :P
06/28/05 20:10:00 Nik_MI: and it was
06/28/05 20:10:10 Jana_in_Indiana: do you have any rooting hormone powder Judith?
06/28/05 20:10:13 Tony__IL: you needed the practice Okie
06/28/05 20:10:24 Judith: No
06/28/05 20:10:24 Okie: I just put it above (just barely) the soil and held it there with bent paperclips, and it rooted  in the air down to the soil
06/28/05 20:10:47 Judith: Come again!
06/28/05 20:10:54 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, rooting the neck is probably the only time you'll ever use rooting hormone anyway
06/28/05 20:11:11 Judith: It being the longneck?  How many leaves do you leave on?
06/28/05 20:11:11 Nik_MI: that's a fun way of doing it
06/28/05 20:12:06 Okie: I did place it in a bag
06/28/05 20:12:07 Tony__IL: think only about 3 rows of leaves would be OK, Judith
06/28/05 20:12:08 Jana_in_Indiana: I try to leave on about 6 normal sized leaves
06/28/05 20:12:18 Okie: and I did use rooting hormone
06/28/05 20:13:01 Judith: I placed one pot and plant in a bag and it seemed stable but when I took it out it went soft.  Shook me up because I thought I'd murdered it.
06/28/05 20:13:04 Okie: It only had 4 leafs and the few very small crown leafs on this piece, I actually cut it into three different pieces and they all are rooting great
06/28/05 20:13:24 Judith: Wow!!
06/28/05 20:13:24 Tony__IL: got a couple of the suckers that have been in for a few weeks. Gonna have to pull them up and see what the roots look like
06/28/05 20:13:36 Jana_in_Indiana: you need to slowly acclimate them when removing from bags, open for a few hours
06/28/05 20:13:49 Judith: Wow!!!   What a green thumb and brave person.  I'm chicken I've decided.
06/28/05 20:13:51 Jana_in_Indiana: then more hours, finally remove bag, doing this over several days
06/28/05 20:14:22 goj62 Logs in [172.162.228.45]
06/28/05 20:14:23 Okie: I only would do it with NOIDs to start
06/28/05 20:14:23 Judith: OK Jana Ill try that bag thing that way next time.
06/28/05 20:14:30 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi goj62!
06/28/05 20:14:31 Okie: hi goj
06/28/05 20:14:38 Nik_MI: hi
06/28/05 20:14:47 Jana_in_Indiana: name please goj?
06/28/05 20:15:08 Okie: Plus that is all I have near big enough to do anything with
06/28/05 20:15:19 Okie: but like Niki said it is really good practice
06/28/05 20:15:27 Jana_in_Indiana: noids are great to practice on!
06/28/05 20:15:36 Judith: NOIDs are all I'm ever going to have if I don't get a lot better about doing this.  Heck I did better thirty years ago and didnt' know anything like I've learned from you all now.  Then with that knowledge I seem to be blowing it.
06/28/05 20:16:02 Jana_in_Indiana: how long have you been a member of VR Judith?
06/28/05 20:16:16 Nik_MI: haha I do exactly the same thing judith
06/28/05 20:16:18 Judith: Since March 13th or so.
06/28/05 20:16:21 Tony__IL: Any particular problem area Judith
06/28/05 20:16:27 goj62 Logs in [172.162.228.45]
06/28/05 20:16:38 Jana_in_Indiana: it's time for you to join Share the Joy!
06/28/05 20:17:02 goj62: hi enery one  as you can tell I am new
06/28/05 20:17:13 Nik_MI: welcome :)
06/28/05 20:17:15 Jana_in_Indiana: name please goj62?
06/28/05 20:17:27 Judith: That is what I was telling Jana.  I think I'm becomeing a black thumb.  But so far I havent' tried anything but NOIDs, I'm beginng to feel sorry for them though.
06/28/05 20:17:57 goj62: judi welbourne   warrior alabama
06/28/05 20:18:14 Jana_in_Indiana: hello Judi!!
06/28/05 20:18:14 Tony__IL: Hi Judi
06/28/05 20:18:16 Judith: I've never rooted a leaf.  I used to get roots using water but then they died when I'd plant them.
06/28/05 20:18:17 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
06/28/05 20:18:22 Nik_MI: hey clare
06/28/05 20:18:23 Jana_in_Indiana: glad you came to chat!
06/28/05 20:18:27 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Clare!
06/28/05 20:18:32 Clare_KS: Hi all :)
06/28/05 20:18:38 Jana_in_Indiana: do you have any questions Judi?
06/28/05 20:18:41 Tony__IL: hi ya Clare
06/28/05 20:18:45 Clare_KS: I'm eating my dinner, will read until I finish :)
06/28/05 20:18:51 Judith: Sorry guys I'm having a terrible time reading th eyellow.
06/28/05 20:19:05 Nik_MI: yellow?
06/28/05 20:19:08 Jana_in_Indiana: mine all rot in water for me, can't get anything to live here in water only
06/28/05 20:19:30 Judith: Yes the yellow words that some of the chat is in.  LOL
06/28/05 20:19:33 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry J udith, it's because we typed your name, only you see it yellow
06/28/05 20:19:55 Nik_MI: oh that's odd
06/28/05 20:19:57 goj62: yea how long does it take for leafs to show sign of growing babies?
06/28/05 20:20:10 Nik_MI: i've heard 5 weeks averageish
06/28/05 20:20:17 Judith: OK so some are red, green , black, you just choose a color?
06/28/05 20:20:18 Jana_in_Indiana: anywhere from 6 weeks to a year or more
06/28/05 20:20:24 Nik_MI: yup
06/28/05 20:20:34 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, you can
06/28/05 20:20:36 Tony__IL: 4-8 weeks for babies. Even hear of some taking a year
06/28/05 20:20:46 goj62: no wonder guess I'll just have a long wait
06/28/05 20:21:01 Jana_in_Indiana: but anytime any of us type your name as you signed in with, it will become yellow
06/28/05 20:21:06 Jana_in_Indiana: see Judith?
06/28/05 20:21:24 Jana_in_Indiana: but if we break it apart, no yellow, LOL -- J udith
06/28/05 20:21:35 Judith: I think so, you don't choose it just chose that color for me?
06/28/05 20:21:41 Okie: This addiction is evil, it really works on your PATIENCE*)
06/28/05 20:21:47 Jana_in_Indiana: sometimes they are slow Judi, but mini & semi are quicker
06/28/05 20:21:49 Nik_MI: haha no kidding
06/28/05 20:22:20 goj62: also what can use besides marathon that is so expensive
06/28/05 20:22:27 Nik_MI: i think the chat program does the color thing automatically... that's what it sounds like
06/28/05 20:22:36 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, the chat room is set up that way, it does it, not us!  Also, you'll hear a beep, it's to draw your attention to it when someone speaks to you
06/28/05 20:22:48 Nik_MI: that's fun :D
06/28/05 20:22:50 Tony__IL: some of the miticides are really $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
06/28/05 20:22:54 Judith: OK Nik thanks
06/28/05 20:23:20 Judith: You too, Jana
06/28/05 20:23:29 Jana_in_Indiana: you can get Marathon from me , I'll be ordering again soon & 1/2 pound is pretty reasonable
06/28/05 20:23:35 Jana_in_Indiana: welcome!
06/28/05 20:23:50 Tony__IL: J, did say they would send me the catalog for the Perna-Nest trays
06/28/05 20:23:55 Okie: Yes Jana is a sweet heart she makes this addiction much more affordable
06/28/05 20:23:58 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, isn't Avid about $300 for 8 ounces?
06/28/05 20:23:59 Okie: LOL
06/28/05 20:24:05 Nik_MI: haha
06/28/05 20:24:19 Jana_in_Indiana: wonderful T, let us know what you find out
06/28/05 20:24:28 Nik_MI: oh yeah... Jana, do you have a list somewhere of the things you have for sale?
06/28/05 20:24:32 Tony__IL: ain't sure what the price is but it is expensive
06/28/05 20:24:50 Tony__IL: Avid that is
06/28/05 20:24:52 Judith: I'm just trying to get all the ingredients together to make a small batch of Pat Hancock's recipe.
06/28/05 20:25:01 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, but I only charge what I pay for it, plus 10% to help support www.violetreflections.com
06/28/05 20:25:04 Nik_MI: and where is that recipe? I've heard so much about it
06/28/05 20:25:19 Nik_MI: oh that's nice :D
06/28/05 20:25:21 Jana_in_Indiana: in the files
06/28/05 20:25:23 Nik_MI: ok
06/28/05 20:25:26 Nik_MI: i'll have a look
06/28/05 20:25:32 Judith: I've picked it up from peoples e-mails but I think it is also on the list.
06/28/05 20:25:35 Jana_in_Indiana: e-mail me I'll send you my supplies list
06/28/05 20:25:40 Judith: Yeah, files
06/28/05 20:25:46 Nik_MI: alright
06/28/05 20:25:59 Jana_in_Indiana: look for soil recipes, I think that's the folder name
06/28/05 20:26:00 goj62: new but from he way every one talks would be safer to have it  no signs of any bugs etc . yet
06/28/05 20:26:11 Judith: I'm also cheecking out something called "Aussie Gold" that Trish talks about.
06/28/05 20:26:21 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, Marathon is wonderful!
06/28/05 20:26:30 Tony__IL: Jan a did you say you could get the pots as I asked my local guy for pricing
06/28/05 20:26:39 Jana_in_Indiana: yes!
06/28/05 20:26:46 Nik_MI: ah found it
06/28/05 20:26:47 goj62: only have about 25 plants so far but just won on ebay too
06/28/05 20:27:07 Jana_in_Indiana: well, I was talking about the small square black ones, 2 1/2 inch I think
06/28/05 20:27:47 Okie: Yes, that where I heard of you, you saved me some money goj
06/28/05 20:27:57 Jana_in_Indiana: going to go & get 2,000 of them Thurd. then will do the math & see how much each one is
06/28/05 20:28:06 Judith: Has anyone heard of  "Aussie Gold?"  Trish ( maybe short for Pauline) told me about it.
06/28/05 20:28:58 Jana_in_Indiana: I've heard of it, but most ready to use soils are still too heavy, you'll probably have to add perlite
06/28/05 20:29:07 Tony__IL: saw in the AVM ad
06/28/05 20:29:55 Judith: That's where the company told me to look and then I told them I haven't a copy nor sub to this magazine.  I need to go to our Library and check one out.
06/28/05 20:29:56 Tony__IL: where are you Judith?
06/28/05 20:29:59 Jana_in_Indiana: my magazine came Friday, still haven't had time to open it
06/28/05 20:30:04 Okie: When making Pats recipe Jana, will it totally ruin it if I didn't use compost, and bone meal, but used everything else? Including chicken poop  *bird*
06/28/05 20:30:14 Okie: woops, wrong bird LOL
06/28/05 20:30:25 Judith: I live in Claremore, OKlahoma
06/28/05 20:30:57 Jana_in_Indiana: is the a reason you don't want to use the bone meal & compost Charlene?
06/28/05 20:31:07 Okie: It is so nice to have a fellow Okie Judith
06/28/05 20:31:14 Okie: I don't have it
06/28/05 20:31:15 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.146.202.191]
06/28/05 20:31:19 Okie: Hi Sherry
06/28/05 20:31:20 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sherry!
06/28/05 20:31:26 Tony__IL: hi Sherry
06/28/05 20:31:29 Clare_KS: Sherry...did you get my email?
06/28/05 20:31:32 sherry__(Mo): Hi Everyone!
06/28/05 20:31:36 Nik_MI: hi!
06/28/05 20:31:42 sherry__(Mo): Yep Clare-just answered it
06/28/05 20:31:44 Okie: I thought I had all I needed but had blood meal instead of bonemeal, and no compost
06/28/05 20:32:10 Jana_in_Indiana: any place that sells bulbs will sell bone meal, it's easy to get
06/28/05 20:32:32 Jana_in_Indiana: compost can be bought anywhere, Walmart, Lowes, garden stores
06/28/05 20:32:40 Okie: yea I got some this weekend, but didn't have it when I made up the mix after getting my shipment from you Jana
06/28/05 20:32:49 Jana_in_Indiana: Mr T, don't use mushroom compost
06/28/05 20:32:52 Tony__IL: guess I'll have to mix a couple bushels of TC Gold and do a road trip selling it OLO
06/28/05 20:33:00 Okie: I thought that kind of compost was too "hot"
06/28/05 20:33:27 Okie: What's OLO Tony?
06/28/05 20:33:28 Tony__IL: the guy at the greenhouse thought the cow stuff was hot
06/28/05 20:33:28 Rachel_ Logs in [216.26.203.91]
06/28/05 20:33:34 Okie: Hello Rachel
06/28/05 20:33:36 Tony__IL: Hi Rachel
06/28/05 20:33:38 sherry__(Mo): Clare-Charlene (Okie) is originally from our area and will hopefully look kus up this fall
06/28/05 20:33:44 sherry__(Mo): Hi Rachel
06/28/05 20:33:46 Rachel_: Hello everyone.
06/28/05 20:33:49 tee7202 Logs in [67.184.133.223]
06/28/05 20:33:51 Clare_KS: Oh, that will be nice, Charlene!
06/28/05 20:33:53 Tony__IL: What's up witht ehmushroom stuff, J?
06/28/05 20:33:56 Okie: Hi Tee
06/28/05 20:33:56 Jana_in_Indiana: I asked Pat Hancock about the mushroom compost & she said the mushrooms take nearly all the nutrients out of the soil & it's of little use to AV's
06/28/05 20:33:56 Nik_MI: hi
06/28/05 20:33:57 Clare_KS: Hi Rachel!!
06/28/05 20:34:03 Dogmom Logs in [12.208.121.22]
06/28/05 20:34:05 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Rachel & Tee
06/28/05 20:34:06 tee7202: Hello
06/28/05 20:34:08 Okie: Hey Cheryl
06/28/05 20:34:09 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi DM
06/28/05 20:34:11 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tee
06/28/05 20:34:14 Rachel_: I am wondering how much of this chat  have I missed?
06/28/05 20:34:14 Nik_MI: hi
06/28/05 20:34:23 Dogmom: Hi everyone!
06/28/05 20:34:31 Tony__IL: Hi Cheryl
06/28/05 20:34:33 Nik_MI: I think you've missed about half an hour
06/28/05 20:34:40 sherry__(Mo): LOL-right now just greeting everyone! I was late too Rachel
06/28/05 20:34:42 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, you only missed about 30 minutes Rachel!
06/28/05 20:34:56 Okie: Ok another question
06/28/05 20:34:58 Nik_MI: and most of the people here weren't here for the whole time either
06/28/05 20:35:13 Jana_in_Indiana: usually start late, never on time, LOL
06/28/05 20:35:16 Okie: How does everyone keep track of their AV's and wants and haves, etc.
06/28/05 20:35:30 tee7202: Well I was wondering what should be involved in a routine.
06/28/05 20:35:31 Rachel_: thanks Nik_Mi
06/28/05 20:35:42 Nik_MI: ah there's the yellow! lol
06/28/05 20:35:42 Jana_in_Indiana: note & lists, I'm not good w/ computers
06/28/05 20:35:52 Okie: I got a couple of ideas emailed to me today, but really want to get all the ideas I can
06/28/05 20:36:19 Nik_MI: Yeah... so far my haves list is easy... one noid lol
06/28/05 20:36:26 Nik_MI: but my wants list is just written on paper
06/28/05 20:36:36 sherry__(Mo): That's a start Nik!
06/28/05 20:36:48 Nik_MI: i won a leaf auction on ebay yesterday
06/28/05 20:36:49 Jana_in_Indiana: I just don't have time for all the record keeping, the AV's keep me busy enough & I write anything I want to remember on the pot/label
06/28/05 20:36:50 Dogmom: Okie - Cheryl in TX posted her routine, which I thought was really good... but everyone is going to have/do things differently depending on conditions
06/28/05 20:36:51 Nik_MI: and they shipped today
06/28/05 20:36:56 Nik_MI: so i'm happy for now :D
06/28/05 20:37:09 tee7202: I make list then loose them.
06/28/05 20:37:11 Judith: My list consists of keep my poor NOIDs alive, then my reward is someday a Named one.
06/28/05 20:37:18 Jana_in_Indiana: got your 'fix' for the week eh Nik?
06/28/05 20:37:21 Nik_MI: haha yup
06/28/05 20:37:36 Jana_in_Indiana: J udith, you should join Share the Joy!
06/28/05 20:37:40 Nik_MI: although i bid on three thinking i'd only win one... and i'm kind of scared i'm going to win all three :p
06/28/05 20:37:49 tee7202: Does everyone have a plant stand setup with lights?
06/28/05 20:37:55 Jana_in_Indiana: I do
06/28/05 20:37:59 goj62: guess I had better get me another notebook started. would be easier in the long run
06/28/05 20:38:00 sherry__(Mo): me too
06/28/05 20:38:01 Dogmom: I do
06/28/05 20:38:04 Nik_MI: I have... a crate
06/28/05 20:38:06 Tony__IL: light, yes
06/28/05 20:38:08 Clare_KS: Hee hee...I read the rules for Share the Joy, and wondered WHO could be on this list for 3 whole months and NOT have 20 AVs???
06/28/05 20:38:12 Judith: I don't have enough no how (even with all your info) on growing the leaves.
06/28/05 20:38:22 Nik_MI: but i have lights
06/28/05 20:38:33 Dogmom: Judith... how many leaves have you tried?
06/28/05 20:38:38 Tony__IL: need some photos, tee
06/28/05 20:38:47 sherry__(Mo): Nik, I even have a door on saw horses in the basement
06/28/05 20:38:48 Judith: None in a lot of years.
06/28/05 20:39:01 Judith: I used to try them years ago.
06/28/05 20:39:05 Nik_MI: haha sounds good sherry
06/28/05 20:39:07 goj62: bought a nice shelf at junkie store but need to buy more lights for it
06/28/05 20:39:25 Judith: I also don't have lights and not a place to put them that I have come up with.
06/28/05 20:39:29 sherry__(Mo): Just get the shop lights from Walmart or K mart Go
06/28/05 20:39:33 Dogmom: Give it a try, Judith, armed with the info from the list... if you e-mail me with your address I'd ve happy to send you some leaves to practice with
06/28/05 20:39:45 tee7202: Well I have looked at a few stands on line.  I was thinking of doing a pvc.
06/28/05 20:39:53 sherry__(Mo): Judith, most trailers do good in natural light
06/28/05 20:39:55 Judith: Thanks, I'll try.
06/28/05 20:40:03 Nik_MI: jana, did the email I send you get through?
06/28/05 20:40:26 Jana_in_Indiana: no, try again: CrazyCavy@aol.com
06/28/05 20:40:27 tee7202: I thought it would be cheaper and easier but today I read that they can be a little unstable.
06/28/05 20:40:31 Nik_MI: alright
06/28/05 20:40:40 Okie: Can someone tell me if their light stands add a lot of heat to there house?
06/28/05 20:40:59 Judith: I dohave a plant that I set out in the summer int he shade that I just found out is called a Strep something.  It's supposed to be from the Violet family.  Is that the strep you all talk about?
06/28/05 20:41:01 Okie: Using shop lights
06/28/05 20:41:07 Jana_in_Indiana: Rachel, when the 10% reaches $25, I'll send you a check for VR.com, we're getting closer too!
06/28/05 20:41:24 Okie: I think so judith, I love streps
06/28/05 20:41:26 Tony__IL: I have 4 stands and 4-2light fixtures each and haven't seen a big jump in heat or electric costs
06/28/05 20:41:27 Dogmom: My stands (four of them currently) don't heat the house, particularly, but in the hot weather heat builds up pretty quickly AT the stand
06/28/05 20:41:32 Jana_in_Indiana: my lights don't add much heat, flourescent lights aren't that hot
06/28/05 20:41:42 goj62: mine doesn't add heatbut its just 25 or 40 watts
06/28/05 20:41:48 Nik_MI: fluorescent add basically nothing
06/28/05 20:42:01 Nik_MI: heat-wise i mean
06/28/05 20:42:02 Rachel_ Logs Out
06/28/05 20:42:04 Judith: It has pale blue flowers not too different from violets and the leaves are smaller and velvety.
06/28/05 20:42:11 goj62: was afarid shop lights would be to hot on plants
06/28/05 20:42:15 Rachel_ Logs in [216.26.203.91]
06/28/05 20:42:21 Jana_in_Indiana: WB Rachel!
06/28/05 20:42:37 Tony__IL: Judi, they seem to add very little heat
06/28/05 20:42:59 Judith: OK I'm curious why does this voice keep telling a person leaves and then right back aain tells me they are back in?
06/28/05 20:43:08 Jana_in_Indiana: I notice the humidity more than the heat
06/28/05 20:43:21 tee7202: How often do you mist?  And wont that harm the crown?
06/28/05 20:43:25 Jana_in_Indiana: it's just set up that way
06/28/05 20:43:27 Nik_MI: theyre not really even hot enough to burn if you accidentally touch them when theyve been going for a while
06/28/05 20:43:27 Dogmom: I have a small humidifier by each stand
06/28/05 20:43:27 Okie: I almost have Doug talked into at least one "TACKY" lol light stand and then he told me it would really heat up a room and I about chickened out,  you know the change and all  :p
06/28/05 20:43:27 goj62: that is why I bought a regular palnt light
06/28/05 20:43:41 Tony__IL: maybe they hit a wrong key and logged back in Judith
06/28/05 20:43:54 Judith: Oh, thanks
06/28/05 20:44:20 Clare_KS: Bee, that's a good question...I wondered about the crown when you mist.
06/28/05 20:44:20 sherry__(Mo): With the matting, I get plenty of humidity for my AV's
06/28/05 20:44:26 Jana_in_Indiana: I only mist when necessary, like if there's powder mildew, or to green up variegated babies
06/28/05 20:44:42 sherry__(Mo): You want a mist with a fine spray
06/28/05 20:44:52 Judith: Misting does away with powdery mildew?
06/28/05 20:44:59 Dogmom Logs Out
06/28/05 20:45:09 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, when you mist with a fungicide, LOL!
06/28/05 20:45:16 tee7202: How does mist green up variegates?
06/28/05 20:45:17 Nik_MI: haha
06/28/05 20:45:27 Judith: OK funny, funny!
06/28/05 20:45:31 Jana_in_Indiana: & greens up babies if you mist with fish emulsion water
06/28/05 20:45:45 tee7202: LOL
06/28/05 20:45:54 Judith: Now that's something I hadn't heard.
06/28/05 20:46:03 Jana_in_Indiana: but it stinks!!!!!!
06/28/05 20:46:05 Tony__IL: what's the diff between fish wemussion and seaweed?
06/28/05 20:46:06 Clare_KS: Good way to keep company away, too.
06/28/05 20:46:08 tee7202: Does fish emulsion stink
06/28/05 20:46:22 Okie: YEA baby LOL
06/28/05 20:46:27 Clare_KS: *)
06/28/05 20:46:30 Nik_MI: lol
06/28/05 20:46:31 goj62: it sure does to me
06/28/05 20:46:43 Jana_in_Indiana: one contains fish guts & one contains ocean plants, which are probably inside the fish guts!  :P
06/28/05 20:46:46 tee7202: Where do you get seaweed?
06/28/05 20:46:49 Judith: My cats would really be attracted I'm afraid.  They are bad enough in the curiosity dept. as it is.
06/28/05 20:47:00 tee7202: LOL
06/28/05 20:47:06 Clare_KS: seaweed is a plant and fish emulsion is fermented fish poo poo
06/28/05 20:47:08 Okie: Go grind up some fish and leave out in the heat for a few days, there you go *)
06/28/05 20:47:29 Judith: Oh my Gosh!!!!
06/28/05 20:47:42 Jana_in_Indiana: it's not the fish, it's what's left over after fish are cleaned & fileted
06/28/05 20:47:43 Okie: thats what it smells like to me LOL
06/28/05 20:48:12 Tony__IL: think I'll go with the seawead
06/28/05 20:48:19 Tony__IL: seaweed
06/28/05 20:48:21 tee7202: Ok no fish poo or left over from fish in my house.
06/28/05 20:48:23 sherry__(Mo): LOL-I agree Tony
06/28/05 20:48:23 Cheryl-TX Logs in [68.94.3.245]
06/28/05 20:48:29 Judith: Jana, do you start the babies in perlite?
06/28/05 20:48:29 Jana_in_Indiana: seaweed is harder to find, but it doesn't smell
06/28/05 20:48:32 sherry__(Mo): Hi Cheryl!
06/28/05 20:48:32 Tony__IL: hi Cheryl
06/28/05 20:48:33 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi cheryl!
06/28/05 20:48:37 Nik_MI: hi cheryl
06/28/05 20:48:43 tee7202: Hi Cheryl.
06/28/05 20:48:46 Cheryl-TX: Hello all
06/28/05 20:49:02 Jana_in_Indiana: no J udith, I start my babies/leaves in Pat's soil
06/28/05 20:49:02 Judith: Hi Cheryl,
06/28/05 20:49:24 Tony__IL: Well, Cheryl, you're our guest speaker tonight. What's the topic?
06/28/05 20:49:29 Okie: Hi Cheryl
06/28/05 20:49:31 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL!
06/28/05 20:49:35 Tony__IL: LOL
06/28/05 20:49:38 Nik_MI: ooo guest speaker! lol
06/28/05 20:49:43 Okie: Thanks for the email and the leaves Cheryl
06/28/05 20:49:43 tee7202: LOL
06/28/05 20:49:51 Cheryl-TX: You are too funny Tony
06/28/05 20:50:07 Tony__IL: thanks also for the package
06/28/05 20:50:26 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl , I did end up with 13 leaves to put down, the rest were beyond help -- stupid mailman!
06/28/05 20:50:28 Okie: Cheryl tell Judith your site, it has so many great pics about starting leaves and such
06/28/05 20:50:34 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks for sending it!
06/28/05 20:50:55 Judith: Yes Ceryl, I'd appreciate it.
06/28/05 20:51:08 tee7202: Yes share Cheryl
06/28/05 20:51:10 Judith: Oops sorry about the name spelling.
06/28/05 20:51:17 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Cheryl!!!
06/28/05 20:51:20 Nik_MI: haha
06/28/05 20:51:47 Okie: I love Cheryl's site, of course it made me do all kinds of different things to practice
06/28/05 20:51:59 Judith: Whenever you guys talk about putting leaves down I have to remind myself it's agood thing not putting them to sleep.  Remember I spend my days with fifth graders
06/28/05 20:52:00 Okie: What fun  ;)
06/28/05 20:52:02 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl loves experiments!
06/28/05 20:52:08 Cheryl-TX: just go to webshots and select community and go to the bottom and put in ritabelew for memeber
06/28/05 20:52:34 tee7202: ?
06/28/05 20:52:48 Okie: Judith check out all the experiments on putting down leaves
06/28/05 20:53:00 Jana_in_Indiana: http://community.webshots.com/user/ritabelew
06/28/05 20:53:01 Okie: it is awesome
06/28/05 20:53:12 Cheryl-TX: and you will see the pics of my experiments
06/28/05 20:53:13 Okie: I want to be just like her LOL
06/28/05 20:53:36 Cheryl-TX: thanks jana, i knew i could count on you
06/28/05 20:53:44 tee7202: Ooh eye candy
06/28/05 20:54:03 Jana_in_Indiana: I just copied the link to my album & then put your name into it, hope it works!
06/28/05 20:54:22 Okie: I have gone nuts trying to duplicate her experiments... so much fun :p
06/28/05 20:54:43 Jana_in_Indiana: yah, it works!
06/28/05 20:54:52 Okie: brb
06/28/05 20:55:40 Jana_in_Indiana: oh Cheryl, my experiment with the heating pad is finished!
06/28/05 20:55:40 Cheryl-TX: Rachel I got some of the neatest little stands to hold my violets at and angle when I  give my violets a bath, it holds the violet and lets it drain.
06/28/05 20:55:56 Cheryl-TX: did the leafs die????
06/28/05 20:56:01 Jana_in_Indiana: YUP!
06/28/05 20:56:14 Nik_MI: what was this experiment?
06/28/05 20:56:26 sherry__(Mo): Where did you get the stands Cheryl?
06/28/05 20:56:39 sherry__(Mo): Did they croak Jana?
06/28/05 20:56:41 Jana_in_Indiana: I had an old atlas between the tray & the heating pad, hubby wanted to look something up, pulled it out & I didn't know till the next day
06/28/05 20:57:04 sherry__(Mo): Oh no!
06/28/05 20:57:15 Jana_in_Indiana: where did you get that stand Cheryl?
06/28/05 20:57:19 Cheryl-TX: they were in some old show props, I am going to  have some more made next year at our metal shop
06/28/05 20:57:21 Judith: Oh, OH what did he say when you found out.
06/28/05 20:57:37 Jana_in_Indiana: nothing, LOL!
06/28/05 20:58:26 Cheryl-TX: so are you going to start over
06/28/05 20:58:28 tee7202: Are your stands on you web page
06/28/05 20:58:42 tee7202: sp
06/28/05 20:58:59 Cheryl-TX: no but i can put them on
06/28/05 20:59:27 Jana_in_Indiana: I don't know, I have the leaves from you & another batch too, but since they are shipped , I think the heat variable while in the mail wouldn't give a fair result
06/28/05 20:59:37 Jana_in_Indiana: oh please do cheryl!
06/28/05 20:59:38 Cheryl-TX: if you knew some one that can spot weld you could make them
06/28/05 21:00:27 tee7202: What soil recipe do you use?  I have looked at so many I am a little confused now
06/28/05 21:01:03 Jana_in_Indiana: I use Pat Hancock's recipe, she hybridizes all the Buckeyes
06/28/05 21:01:21 Jana_in_Indiana: contains compost, manure, lots of good stuff
06/28/05 21:01:42 Nik_MI: ... I wish there wasn't so much patience requited to do this whole growing plants things...
06/28/05 21:01:48 Nik_MI: lol
06/28/05 21:02:14 Judith: Where do we get the compsot and does it need to saycertain things on the packages. Same with the manure.
06/28/05 21:02:34 Judith: Man  my typing is bad tonight.
06/28/05 21:02:56 Jana_in_Indiana: 1 Tablespoon Bone Meal  2 Tablespoons Dolomite Lime    ½ cup dehydrated cow manure – may use dehydrated      poultry manure
06/28/05 21:02:56 tee7202: I have seen hers. Where do you find dehydrated maure
06/28/05 21:03:07 Jana_in_Indiana: 1 gallon compost    1 ½ gallons Coarse Vermiculite    1 package of Horticultural Charcoal, like Schultz    3 gallons Pro-Mix BX    4 gallons Coarse Perlite
06/28/05 21:03:40 Okie: You can get chicken poop from Jana
06/28/05 21:03:42 Jana_in_Indiana: you can get the poop form me!
06/28/05 21:03:44 tee7202: I read today that Charcoal adds no benefit to soil at all.
06/28/05 21:03:45 Judith: Also I can't seem to find coarse Vermiculite.
06/28/05 21:03:48 Jana_in_Indiana: from*
06/28/05 21:04:10 Okie: but warning,,,, the smell is not too bad but it will stay with you for a bit  *)
06/28/05 21:04:14 tee7202: Thanks Jana I think I will pass
06/28/05 21:04:19 Jana_in_Indiana: if you read long enough you can reads anything on the internet, I read that tea cures cancer, LOL!
06/28/05 21:04:32 tee7202: LOL
06/28/05 21:04:38 Judith: Don't we all wish!!!
06/28/05 21:04:47 Jana_in_Indiana: I do have a load of coarse vermiculite!
06/28/05 21:04:53 Jana_in_Indiana: YES!
06/28/05 21:05:05 Okie: Charcoal is best I think for keeping the soil fresh
06/28/05 21:05:10 Jana_in_Indiana: & it really is coarse
06/28/05 21:05:25 Judith: So if we purchase from you do we jsut e-mail you to find the prices and then send a check or how do you do it.
06/28/05 21:06:02 Jana_in_Indiana: that's it in a nut shell, or you can search the web & order from commercial sites, I don't make any money doing this
06/28/05 21:06:19 Clare_KS: Jana do you take PayPal?
06/28/05 21:06:20 Judith: Cause before I try any baby leaves I'm going to have the "RECIPE"
06/28/05 21:06:30 Jana_in_Indiana: & you only pay actual shiping cost, nothing for handling
06/28/05 21:06:47 Nik_MI: i'll brb
06/28/05 21:06:49 tee7202: I would have to buy 20+ bags of perlite from walmart to get 4 gallons
06/28/05 21:06:50 Nik_MI Logs Out
06/28/05 21:06:58 Judith: That's what I'll do then.  I just need to fugure out what I'm still missing.
06/28/05 21:07:05 Jana_in_Indiana: I am going to mix up some more of her soil & offer it as ready to use
06/28/05 21:07:15 Clare_KS: Judith, have you tried Gel2Root?
06/28/05 21:07:21 Okie: Boy, that would be wonderful Jana
06/28/05 21:07:32 Nik__MI Logs in [69.216.99.110]
06/28/05 21:07:39 Tony__IL: Trade some leaves and I'll use the vermic as packing LOL
06/28/05 21:07:39 Okie: WB Nik
06/28/05 21:07:44 Judith: That is really what I need.  Because I just don't have that many ( especially now)  Boo Hoo!
06/28/05 21:07:44 Jana_in_Indiana: all I need to pick up is charcoal & I'll get it thurs. too
06/28/05 21:07:47 Jana_in_Indiana: WB Nik
06/28/05 21:07:58 tee7202: Oh Jana I live in western suburbs of Chicago
06/28/05 21:08:13 Nik__MI Disconnects
06/28/05 21:08:17 Jana_in_Indiana: the hard part will be doing the math to figure the cost, LOL!  I had that part!
06/28/05 21:08:33 Tony__IL: what suburb, Tee?
06/28/05 21:08:40 tee7202: Welcome NIk long time no hear from LOL
06/28/05 21:08:40 Jana_in_Indiana: then you need to go to the Lisle shows, pretty nice!
06/28/05 21:08:49 Nik__MI Logs in [69.216.99.110]
06/28/05 21:08:51 tee7202: Aurora
06/28/05 21:08:52 Clare_KS: gak, I have to get to bed.
06/28/05 21:08:54 Rachel_: You got a honey out there Nic??
06/28/05 21:08:54 Judith: Try teaching Fifth Grade Math!!!  That will give you a new appreciation of "MATH"
06/28/05 21:08:55 Clare_KS: Night all.
06/28/05 21:09:00 Jana_in_Indiana: poor Nik!  You having problems?
06/28/05 21:09:00 tee7202: My dad lives in Gary
06/28/05 21:09:00 Clare_KS Logs Out
06/28/05 21:09:09 Nik__MI: hm? me?
06/28/05 21:09:15 tee7202: My best friend live in Indianapolis
06/28/05 21:09:16 Okie: Jana, I have searched for alot of the things you can provide and I just can't find them all in one spot except through you
06/28/05 21:09:25 Nik__MI: i switched computers
06/28/05 21:09:37 Judith: Okie, that's good to know.
06/28/05 21:09:45 Nik__MI: and i think it let me in the chatroom on this one then decided it didnt want to let me in after all and just crashed
06/28/05 21:09:46 Tony__IL: J, will have to talk about being suppliers. LOL
06/28/05 21:09:49 Nik__MI: I think i'm alright now
06/28/05 21:10:01 Jana_in_Indiana: well, I use her soil so I have to have the stuff, ;)
06/28/05 21:10:05 Okie: And it really feels good to be helping pay for Rachels site
06/28/05 21:10:18 Jana_in_Indiana: THAT is the reason I'm doing it!
06/28/05 21:10:27 Jana_in_Indiana: and to help everyone too!
06/28/05 21:10:27 Judith: That's true because it sure has been a help to me.
06/28/05 21:10:32 Okie: But, I wonder about another way to help, it sure seems like a lot of work for Jana
06/28/05 21:10:54 Jana_in_Indiana: be careful, if I stop, where will you get the stuff you need?
06/28/05 21:11:14 Judith: Do you work "outside" as well, cause if you do I don't know how you do all this.
06/28/05 21:11:17 Jana_in_Indiana: we're all in this addiction together, LOL!
06/28/05 21:11:22 Nik__MI: well I was thinking if you could get more people to keep a bigger stock so you could split orders between you
06/28/05 21:11:38 Nik__MI: have the closest person mail the stuff, etc
06/28/05 21:11:47 Jana_in_Indiana: no, my health is too far gone for work outside the home, just the work here is too much, LOL!
06/28/05 21:12:03 Nik__MI: but I don't know who would or could help
06/28/05 21:12:06 Judith: I'll second that from my end as well.
06/28/05 21:12:13 Okie: No no no, Jana I don't want you to stop I just wish I could be of some help to you  :)
06/28/05 21:12:25 Jana_in_Indiana: Nik, the thing is, lots of people don't have a local supplier for what's needed
06/28/05 21:12:40 Nik__MI: yeah I figured it was something along those lines
06/28/05 21:12:41 Judith: That's what I keeprunning up aainst.
06/28/05 21:12:49 Jana_in_Indiana: well heck!  I'm sure Rachel would accept donations!
06/28/05 21:12:57 Judith: Good grief,  My fingers!!!
06/28/05 21:13:02 Nik__MI: haha
06/28/05 21:13:10 Nik__MI: is your keyboard eating them?
06/28/05 21:13:12 Nik__MI: lol
06/28/05 21:13:22 Okie: So Jana do you get it all locally?
06/28/05 21:13:29 Jana_in_Indiana: yes
06/28/05 21:13:32 Judith: No but my old typing teacher would be horrified!!!
06/28/05 21:13:38 Nik__MI: lol
06/28/05 21:13:49 Jana_in_Indiana: I have a greenhouse supplier that I get more of the stuff from
06/28/05 21:14:04 tee7202: Do you buy in bulk
06/28/05 21:14:15 Rachel_: You members are  so great  I just get a lump in my throat...
06/28/05 21:14:43 Okie: Well, anyway, Jana if you ever think of something that I could do to help you I would be honored. :)
06/28/05 21:14:48 Jana_in_Indiana: yup, when I can, make it cheaper for everyone, and I do round up or down on the prices to the hearest 25 cents, to make my life a little easier, LOL\
06/28/05 21:14:56 sherry__(Mo): Rachel-most of us wouldn't be able to keep AV's alive if it weren't for your site!
06/28/05 21:15:11 Okie: Ditto
06/28/05 21:15:14 Jana_in_Indiana: take a sip of something Rachel, we don't want any lumps!!!
06/28/05 21:15:27 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/28/05 21:15:36 Jana_in_Indiana: Sherry is right, all you're seeing Rachl is gratitude!!!
06/28/05 21:15:38 Okie: If anyone was interested in donating to the site, exactly where would one do that  :?
06/28/05 21:16:26 Jana_in_Indiana: I have Rachel's address, send me an e-mail, I'll send you her correct address!
06/28/05 21:16:53 Okie: Maybe just send extra when we buy supplies from Jana would be best  ;)
06/28/05 21:17:20 Okie: Sorry, I will do that Jana
06/28/05 21:17:22 Jana_in_Indiana: just list it as a donation!
06/28/05 21:17:31 Okie: Got cha
06/28/05 21:17:33 tee7202: Ok how do we buy supplies from Jana
06/28/05 21:17:52 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm keeping a record of the amount I send people & how much is the 10% for VR.com
06/28/05 21:18:00 Okie: Does anyone have Physon 20 available?
06/28/05 21:18:05 Jana_in_Indiana: e-mail me: CrazyCavy@aol.com
06/28/05 21:18:24 Jana_in_Indiana: I saw it on sale at an internet plant site, do a search
06/28/05 21:18:35 Okie: How much should it be?
06/28/05 21:18:44 Jana_in_Indiana: it was $9.?? for 16 oz I think, pretty cheap
06/28/05 21:18:48 Judith: I may have seeen it at Lowes this weekend.
06/28/05 21:18:51 Okie: Thanks
06/28/05 21:18:52 Jana_in_Indiana: or was it 8 oz?
06/28/05 21:18:56 Tony__IL: Gee, that's the other think I should check out is getting some smaller containers for the Physan, etc.
06/28/05 21:19:05 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm sure it wasn't a gallon! :P
06/28/05 21:19:10 Okie: Yea Tony
06/28/05 21:19:10 Judith: What is it for?
06/28/05 21:19:15 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Tony, please do!!!!!
06/28/05 21:19:35 sherry__(Mo): Go for it Tony! Did you find out anything about the permanest trays?
06/28/05 21:19:49 Jana_in_Indiana: it's a fungicide, algaecide, bactericide, viricide, kills bad stuff
06/28/05 21:20:02 Tony__IL: well the shop for the herbals has got to get stuff in by the gallon and break it down into 4-8 oz containers.
06/28/05 21:20:09 Okie: I have got to get that, I did not find it at Lowe's here
06/28/05 21:20:23 Judith: How do you use it? in the soil or as a liquid.
06/28/05 21:20:37 Jana_in_Indiana: try a place that sells pool supplies, it's added to the water in swimming pools
06/28/05 21:20:51 Tony__IL: Sher ry, they took my tax # and are sending me a list by snail mail
06/28/05 21:20:51 Jana_in_Indiana: add to water, about 1 teaspoon per gallon usually
06/28/05 21:21:07 sherry__(Mo): Great Tony!!
06/28/05 21:21:13 Jana_in_Indiana: also Physan 20 kills powdery mildew!
06/28/05 21:21:32 Judith: Through the soil or do you mist with it.
06/28/05 21:21:41 Jana_in_Indiana: I finally got it on 1 leaf, sprayed it once with physan & it was gone!
06/28/05 21:21:49 sherry__(Mo): Either way Judith
06/28/05 21:21:55 Jana_in_Indiana: for PM you have to spray it
06/28/05 21:22:02 Okie: I gave up on Cape Cod and went to walmart and bought some metal trays with high lids to use for now until Tony finds out something
06/28/05 21:22:02 sherry__(Mo): Really Jana?! I
06/28/05 21:22:13 Jana_in_Indiana: yup!
06/28/05 21:22:26 Jana_in_Indiana: I think I had ti mix it a bit stronger for PM
06/28/05 21:22:26 sherry__(Mo): I never had that problem
06/28/05 21:22:29 Jana_in_Indiana: let me look
06/28/05 21:22:36 Tony__IL: also I use Lysol spray for the mildew
06/28/05 21:22:37 tee7202: Where ar the trays at walmart
06/28/05 21:23:05 sherry__(Mo): I use Lysol too-spray lightly
06/28/05 21:23:05 Okie: I bought them in the kitchen supplies
06/28/05 21:23:21 Judith: I used bleach because one of the members was telling how to do it.  It worked too.  I'm kind of afraid of the Lysol because I have several inside pets.
06/28/05 21:23:32 Okie: they are like 2.00 for a couple with lids, hopefully they will work for now
06/28/05 21:24:03 sherry__(Mo): I'd be afraid to spray bleach
06/28/05 21:24:08 Okie: I got the egg crate and plan to set this all up tomorrow
06/28/05 21:24:12 Jana_in_Indiana: says 1 teaspoon per gallon
06/28/05 21:24:15 Tony__IL: will let you all know about the PermaNest as soon as I know
06/28/05 21:24:15 sherry__(Mo): What if it gets on other things?
06/28/05 21:24:26 Judith: Did you go to baking and get the aluminum pan ones?  Is that what you are talking about?
06/28/05 21:25:00 Okie: I also found some clear shoe boxes at WM that have a clear lid too, so I am going to use them for isolation places for each place I get leaves or plants from
06/28/05 21:25:05 Jana_in_Indiana: be aware that those pans with clear lids do not seal tight!
06/28/05 21:25:07 sherry__(Mo): Just send me a bill Tony and let me know if you want a check or Paypal
06/28/05 21:25:17 Judith: The bleach was just 1 TB for a gallong and I didnt' get it on anything else.
06/28/05 21:25:21 Okie: Yes Judith the aluminum ones
06/28/05 21:25:42 sherry__(Mo): Thanks Judith
06/28/05 21:26:04 Okie: The ones I bought seem to be pretty air tight Jana
06/28/05 21:26:28 Okie: and the plastic shoe boxes are too
06/28/05 21:26:36 Judith: I felt very pround becasue thanks to this group I saw what PM was, recognized it on my plant and was able to successfully treat it.  Yeah!!
06/28/05 21:26:52 Okie: You go girl LOL
06/28/05 21:26:54 Jana_in_Indiana: I got them from Walmart too Okie, when using the gel2root, & had to keep adding water, it was evaporating away & some develpoed leaks too, not sure how that happened!
06/28/05 21:27:02 Tony__IL: way to go Judith
06/28/05 21:27:14 Jana_in_Indiana: wonderful J udith
06/28/05 21:27:36 Okie: Darn it, well maybe they will work okay until the perma nest trays become available from Tony
06/28/05 21:27:39 sherry__(Mo): Judoth, I got PM because I didn't have good air circulation on one of my stands (daughter moved the fan)
06/28/05 21:27:41 Jana_in_Indiana: I thought they were pretty tight too, the lids don't come off easily
06/28/05 21:27:52 Judith: Now.... if I could just get the rest of it figured out and beat.
06/28/05 21:28:07 Jana_in_Indiana: you will, give it some more time!
06/28/05 21:28:19 Okie: Would they work fairly well with mat watering Jana?
06/28/05 21:28:42 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm starting a new tray of leaves & will take photos of the set up, I mat water all my leaves
06/28/05 21:29:00 Jana_in_Indiana: sure, if they don't bend, LOL!  I haven't tried that
06/28/05 21:29:18 Tony__IL: my shoe box abd matting work OK
06/28/05 21:29:21 Judith: Good, I want to see these photos.  Mat watering is still somthing I think I want to do.
06/28/05 21:29:25 goj62: and just how do you do that ?
06/28/05 21:29:38 Okie: I will put them on hard trays and let you know how they work in a pinch
06/28/05 21:29:48 Jana_in_Indiana: http://community.webshots.com/user/janainindiana
06/28/05 21:30:01 Jana_in_Indiana: 5the photos will be there as soon as I take them
06/28/05 21:30:09 Rachel_: #1 son just came in.  Sorry have to leave.
06/28/05 21:30:15 Rachel_ Logs Out
06/28/05 21:30:25 Judith: I doon't know quite how even tho I keep reading about it I'm a tactile, visual learner in my old age.
06/28/05 21:30:26 Tony__IL: Later Rachel
06/28/05 21:30:33 Jana_in_Indiana: Rachel poofed on us!  :D
06/28/05 21:30:53 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/28/05 21:30:56 Okie: Wow that was a fast get away Rachel
06/28/05 21:30:59 Okie: LOL
06/28/05 21:31:19 Jana_in_Indiana: me too J udith!  I'll take some step by step photos, already have some of putting holes in the cell packs
06/28/05 21:31:27 Okie: Back to the compost, any will work except the mushroom? *)
06/28/05 21:31:47 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, preferably weed free & bug free, LOL
06/28/05 21:32:10 tee7202: Man all this seems like a lot of work to me.
06/28/05 21:32:14 Jana_in_Indiana: make bug free your #1 goal, pulling weeds is easier to deal with
06/28/05 21:32:18 Tony__IL: the gal at the greenhouse really reved over the mushroom stuff
06/28/05 21:32:35 Tony__IL: raved*+
06/28/05 21:32:38 tee7202: I only have 6 plants 2 need repotting really bad
06/28/05 21:32:40 Okie: Oh by the way, all the really small cups I got from you Jana, I stacked them up and ran a drill down through as many as it was long in about a minute.  with no fumes lol
06/28/05 21:33:04 goj62: me too but they are so pretty and sweet
06/28/05 21:33:04 Jana_in_Indiana: I thought it would be wonderful stuff too Ton y, till I asked Pat, she tried it long ago, caused problems, then she found out why
06/28/05 21:33:52 Jana_in_Indiana: great Okie, but didn't that make a horrible mess, I tried it & went back to melting with the soldering iron w/ doors open
06/28/05 21:34:04 Okie: No mess at all.
06/28/05 21:34:21 Okie: I used a real small drill bit and it was a piece of cake
06/28/05 21:34:49 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, ok -- I need larger holes for the mat watering
06/28/05 21:35:09 Okie: Oh darn, how big of holes do I need?
06/28/05 21:35:11 Jana_in_Indiana: about the size of the holes in notebook paper
06/28/05 21:35:26 Okie: even in the little 3/4 oz cups
06/28/05 21:35:42 Jana_in_Indiana: some smaller, some bigger, I'm not that precise with shaking hands, LOL
06/28/05 21:35:49 Okie: LOL
06/28/05 21:36:35 Jana_in_Indiana: & I use the largest round tip on the soldering iron
06/28/05 21:37:06 Judith: I'm going to have to drag my poor hubby out of his chair and make him come do my walk with me tonight.  Boy, do I hate to leave. it has been fun and great learning.  Bye everyone.
06/28/05 21:37:12 Okie: Do you use that big of hole in the little bitty cups I got, 3/4 etc.
06/28/05 21:37:13 Jana_in_Indiana: it's a cheapie from wally world, less than $10, but lots easier to use than those big, heavy MAN WORK soldering irons!
06/28/05 21:37:15 Nik__MI: bye
06/28/05 21:37:19 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Judith
06/28/05 21:37:33 Okie: By Judith, we will talk again soon
06/28/05 21:37:35 sherry__(Mo): I use a jewelers soldering iron, but I wick the ones I mat so the holes are just big enough for the yarn to go through
06/28/05 21:37:48 Judith: Course I'd better ask "How do I leave jsut shut down?"
06/28/05 21:37:51 Nik__MI: is the mat watering just basically setting the pots on a mat and watering the mat?
06/28/05 21:37:55 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, Okie, I do, usually I put 3 of them in the bottom of thhose cups
06/28/05 21:37:56 sherry__(Mo): Night Judith
06/28/05 21:38:16 Jana_in_Indiana: just click the X in the corner
06/28/05 21:38:23 Nik__MI: no fancy shut down stuff
06/28/05 21:38:25 Judith: Thanks
06/28/05 21:38:32 Judith Logs Out
06/28/05 21:38:53 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Nik , but I use elevated mats so I only need to add water about every 2 weeks
06/28/05 21:39:00 Okie: Oh my, I have to do some more work then, but this works great for the yarn wicking
06/28/05 21:39:07 Nik__MI: ahh ok
06/28/05 21:39:11 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, it does!
06/28/05 21:39:13 sherry__(Mo): Nik, you want the mat to be wet and it will continue todraw up water. It sets on elevated egg cratting-you don't have to add way=ter as often
06/28/05 21:39:35 Okie: How many holes do you put in the wider cups I got for mat watering Jana
06/28/05 21:39:41 Jana_in_Indiana: 4
06/28/05 21:39:46 sherry__(Mo): Now-if I'd only learn how to type and spell
06/28/05 21:39:50 Jana_in_Indiana: big cups I put 6
06/28/05 21:39:52 Nik__MI: haha
06/28/05 21:40:00 Nik__MI: at least you get your point across
06/28/05 21:40:09 sherry__(Mo): thanks!
06/28/05 21:40:13 Okie: 6 the size of paper holes?
06/28/05 21:40:14 Jana_in_Indiana: we all know how to translate!
06/28/05 21:40:15 Nik__MI: i know far too many people who can type and spell and still confuse the heck out of me :D
06/28/05 21:40:21 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/28/05 21:40:35 Okie: LOL
06/28/05 21:40:38 Jana_in_Indiana: yes
06/28/05 21:41:19 Jana_in_Indiana: Okie, I don't remember what size the bigger cup are I sent you -- I have them up to 32 oz
06/28/05 21:41:21 Okie: OK I guess i am going to do some work before I start the mats.  Do you think I can place the pots I have already repotted with a wick on the mat and it work?
06/28/05 21:41:36 Jana_in_Indiana: yup
06/28/05 21:41:40 sherry__(Mo): sure
06/28/05 21:41:42 Okie: Let's see I got up to the 5 oz cups I think
06/28/05 21:41:53 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, they only need 4 holes
06/28/05 21:42:03 Okie: Ok
06/28/05 21:42:16 Okie: So the wicks will work as well as several holes
06/28/05 21:42:43 sherry__(Mo): No-you need holes for dranage
06/28/05 21:42:50 Jana_in_Indiana: Sherry, is your hole in the center for your wicks?
06/28/05 21:42:58 sherry__(Mo): Yep
06/28/05 21:43:30 Okie: I don't understand Sherry, for mat watering you need drainage holes too?
06/28/05 21:43:41 Tony__IL Logs Out
06/28/05 21:43:49 Cheryl-TX: hey where did every body go????????
06/28/05 21:43:59 Nik__MI: haha they've just slowly been leaving
06/28/05 21:44:14 Jana_in_Indiana: I don;t know!   :?
06/28/05 21:44:26 Cheryl-TX: well that took me longer than i thought
06/28/05 21:44:30 Nik__MI: i know 2 or 3 gave reasons...
06/28/05 21:44:32 sherry__(Mo): they're having a party without us!
06/28/05 21:44:38 Nik__MI: 2 just up and left
06/28/05 21:44:41 Nik__MI: haha
06/28/05 21:45:03 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony must have gotten a call or someone came in he usually says bye
06/28/05 21:45:12 Nik__MI: that's true
06/28/05 21:45:14 Cheryl-TX: i took a picture of my violet stands
06/28/05 21:45:28 Jana_in_Indiana: are they in your album now?
06/28/05 21:45:45 Cheryl-TX: yes i think so if i did it right
06/28/05 21:45:48 Okie: So one more time, do I need drainage holes if I mat water using the wicks I already have in the pot
06/28/05 21:46:19 Okie: Goody goody Cheryl  :D
06/28/05 21:46:29 Nik__MI: it seems to me that drainage holes wouldn't do anything if you're watering from the bottom
06/28/05 21:46:39 Okie: me too Nik
06/28/05 21:46:43 sherry__(Mo): I would think it would depend how light of a mix your mix is
06/28/05 21:46:45 Okie: that's why I'm confused
06/28/05 21:46:47 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, there are some rare occasions when you have to top water, sometimes it'll dry out, no idea why, then you top water to start the wicking again
06/28/05 21:46:54 Nik__MI: ahh
06/28/05 21:47:23 Jana_in_Indiana: & those hole are MUCH easier to make when the pot is empty! ;)
06/28/05 21:47:30 Okie: OK. Maybe I can figure out how to do that with the ones I just repotted.
06/28/05 21:47:42 Okie: GRRRRRRRR
06/28/05 21:47:53 Cheryl-TX: you have lost me
06/28/05 21:48:15 Jana_in_Indiana: just take some very sharp scissors & snip out the corner where the side & bottom meets, only snip out a small triangle
06/28/05 21:48:25 Okie: So even when wicking you need an extra hole?
06/28/05 21:48:32 sherry__(Mo): Charlene,your pots don't have holes in them?
06/28/05 21:48:53 Okie: great idea Jana ;)
06/28/05 21:49:16 Okie: I just put one in for the wick, what a dummy huh :<
06/28/05 21:50:38 Okie: Someone was saying that they use small mason jars as resevoirs, with a little food coloring in the water for decorative purposes... would that hurt the AV's
06/28/05 21:51:18 Cheryl-TX: i would think it would change the color of the leaf
06/28/05 21:51:25 Okie: or the flower
06/28/05 21:51:28 Cheryl-TX: like that experiment with celery
06/28/05 21:51:29 sherry__(Mo): might change the color of the bloom wouldn't it
06/28/05 21:51:41 Jana_in_Indiana: I wouldn't, first of all it will change the pH of the water
06/28/05 21:52:02 Okie: That is what I thought.  But thought it might help with algea growing, oh well another idea, poof
06/28/05 21:52:04 Cheryl-TX: it could
06/28/05 21:52:18 sherry__(Mo): Why would it help with algae?
06/28/05 21:52:33 Jana_in_Indiana: it won't be good for them!  But you might get some interesting colors  -- maybe a TRUE blue if you used blue color on a white AV?
06/28/05 21:52:45 sherry__(Mo): Pretty Jana!
06/28/05 21:52:50 Okie: Not clear water.... :?  :?
06/28/05 21:52:53 Jana_in_Indiana: color doesn't affect algae
06/28/05 21:53:17 Nik__MI: if you used green water there's a change it might cut down on algae
06/28/05 21:53:26 Nik__MI: but i really don't know
06/28/05 21:53:31 Nik__MI: chace
06/28/05 21:53:33 Nik__MI: chance
06/28/05 21:53:35 Nik__MI: sheesh
06/28/05 21:53:39 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/28/05 21:53:45 Okie: Oh well, I will just have to find the physon isn't that what it is good for?
06/28/05 21:53:54 sherry__(Mo): Yep
06/28/05 21:54:17 Jana_in_Indiana: I've used the colored plastic for easter baskets on one aquarium that the sunlight hits, none of the colors made any difference on algae growth at all
06/28/05 21:54:33 Nik__MI: hm alright
06/28/05 21:54:48 Okie: Well since I am going to count on tony getting the permanest trays, i will find somewhere else for the rest of what I ordered from Cape Cod
06/28/05 21:55:04 Jana_in_Indiana: if green water killed the algae, wouldn't the presence of algae make it green & kill it, LOL
06/28/05 21:55:15 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/28/05 21:55:19 Cheryl-TX: i am not following what yall are doing
06/28/05 21:55:25 Nik__MI: well green plants cant photosynthesize with green light
06/28/05 21:55:36 Nik__MI: the fact that theyre green means they absorb all but green light
06/28/05 21:55:37 Okie: Where's the best place price wize for plant stakes or labels or whatever they are called?
06/28/05 21:55:49 Nik__MI: so green light indirectly kills most plants
06/28/05 21:55:59 Jana_in_Indiana: someone posted to the group that she was placing pots in mason jars as reservoirs with colored water to be pretty
06/28/05 21:56:15 sherry__(Mo): I just use painters tape on my pots-I can't use markers because they get pulled out at my house
06/28/05 21:56:38 Jana_in_Indiana: I've seen some really green water in aquariums Nik, with tons of algae
06/28/05 21:57:12 Jana_in_Indiana: I just a permanent marker & just write on the pot
06/28/05 21:57:27 Nik__MI: well i'm just regurgitating what i've been taught for the past 19 years of my life
06/28/05 21:57:30 Jana_in_Indiana: *use
06/28/05 21:57:45 sherry__(Mo): are you 19 Nik?
06/28/05 21:57:49 Nik__MI: yup
06/28/05 21:57:54 Nik__MI: just turned 19 on the 26th
06/28/05 21:57:58 Nik__MI: :P
06/28/05 21:58:07 sherry__(Mo): ahhhh to be 19 again-not really!
06/28/05 21:58:10 Nik__MI: haha
06/28/05 21:58:26 sherry__(Mo): Well HAPPY 19th!
06/28/05 21:58:31 Nik__MI: thanks :D
06/28/05 21:58:31 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm not trying to argue with you nik, but it must take LOTS of green to do it, one tank of my friiends had so much algae you couldn't find the fish, like green soup
06/28/05 21:58:38 Nik__MI: eep
06/28/05 21:58:43 Nik__MI: poor fish!
06/28/05 21:59:03 Nik__MI: yeah my guess is that the algae can live off of the fish waste and food
06/28/05 21:59:09 Nik__MI: it's possible i guess
06/28/05 21:59:12 Okie: Nik, male or female
06/28/05 21:59:14 Nik__MI: male
06/28/05 21:59:17 Nik__MI: nikolas
06/28/05 21:59:20 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, we moved them to another tank, it was her brothers tank, she was feeding his fish while he's away
06/28/05 21:59:31 sherry__(Mo): another rooster!!
06/28/05 21:59:35 Cheryl-TX: got to go night all
06/28/05 21:59:44 sherry__(Mo): Night Cheryl-take care!!
06/28/05 21:59:51 Jana_in_Indiana: we're getting lotrsa of roosters!  It's a good thing
06/28/05 21:59:56 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite cheryl
06/28/05 22:00:00 Cheryl-TX Logs Out
06/28/05 22:00:00 Nik__MI: g'night!
06/28/05 22:00:02 Okie: Wow I am so impressed that a 19 year old is enjoying AV's, I am trying to get my 22 year old daughter into them
06/28/05 22:00:29 tee7202: good night all
06/28/05 22:00:30 sherry__(Mo): Our main rooster is on vacation right now Nik
06/28/05 22:00:37 sherry__(Mo): Night Tee
06/28/05 22:00:38 Okie: nite tee
06/28/05 22:00:44 Okie: or is it nitee
06/28/05 22:00:45 tee7202 Logs Out
06/28/05 22:00:47 Okie: LOL
06/28/05 22:00:50 Jana_in_Indiana: Okie, tell her she can't have any, can't grow them without killing them & you DON'T want her to.... she'll do it next week!
06/28/05 22:01:08 Okie: isn't that the truth
06/28/05 22:01:20 sherry__(Mo): or wait until she has a granddaughter!
06/28/05 22:01:32 Okie: Lyndo is going to start a club in OKC next month so I am hoping to meet her at the meeting and get her involved
06/28/05 22:01:44 Okie: She loves the plants, but doesn't want the work LOL
06/28/05 22:02:02 Nik__MI: yeah... i couldn't figure out what i wanted to do with my life... then i basically found plants and decided i wanted to study botany..
06/28/05 22:02:17 Nik__MI: so AVs are pretty much my learning outside of college right now :D
06/28/05 22:02:19 Okie: Hi Nik, Welcome back
06/28/05 22:02:29 Okie: That is too cool
06/28/05 22:02:30 Nik__MI: haha sorry my dad came in and was talking to me
06/28/05 22:02:31 Jana_in_Indiana: my son is headed in that direction too, he's a senior in HS now
06/28/05 22:02:35 Nik__MI: cool
06/28/05 22:02:51 Jana_in_Indiana: which college?
06/28/05 22:02:54 Nik__MI: either botany or genetics, so AVs are great for both
06/28/05 22:02:58 Nik__MI: Hope College
06/28/05 22:03:05 Nik__MI: it's on the west coast of MI
06/28/05 22:03:08 Nik__MI: by grand rapids
06/28/05 22:03:10 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/28/05 22:03:23 Okie: Well guys, you have given a ton of new work I need to do tomorrow, I feel like such a ditz...
06/28/05 22:03:24 Nik__MI: i'm basically 15 minutes from lake michigan... it's amazing :D
06/28/05 22:03:30 Jana_in_Indiana: daughter is at Purdue, son is planing to go there -- this week!
06/28/05 22:03:41 Nik__MI: that's great
06/28/05 22:03:43 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry Okie!
06/28/05 22:04:01 Okie: I'm off to start it tonight.  I don't really mind, I love having something to do that is just for me.
06/28/05 22:04:09 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Okie!
06/28/05 22:04:13 sherry__(Mo): Night Charlene
06/28/05 22:04:14 Nik__MI: haha i'm just happy my AVs are so forgiving to me right now... nothing's died yet
06/28/05 22:04:18 Nik__MI: night!
06/28/05 22:04:24 Okie: I am just mortified that I might have hurt my new babies.
06/28/05 22:04:29 Nik__MI: haha
06/28/05 22:04:33 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, they're more sturdy than we think
06/28/05 22:04:41 Okie: Thank the LOrd
06/28/05 22:04:44 sherry__(Mo): Go-are you still with us?
06/28/05 22:04:46 Nik__MI: just have faith in yourself! :D it's worked for me so far lol
06/28/05 22:04:51 Okie: Good night all
06/28/05 22:04:58 Nik__MI: sleep well!
06/28/05 22:04:58 Jana_in_Indiana: nite!
06/28/05 22:05:38 Jana_in_Indiana: any more questions?
06/28/05 22:05:47 goj62: nite to you,ll   catch you later got lot,s to learn  judi
06/28/05 22:05:51 sherry__(Mo): Think I'll call it a night too
06/28/05 22:05:59 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Judi!
06/28/05 22:06:02 Nik__MI: I think everything I had got answered somewhere along the line
06/28/05 22:06:04 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite sherry!
06/28/05 22:06:05 sherry__(Mo): Night everyone!!
06/28/05 22:06:10 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Nik!
06/28/05 22:06:14 Nik__MI: but I got up at 7 this morning... so i'm off too
06/28/05 22:06:14 goj62 Leaves Subroom
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06/28/05 22:06:18 Nik__MI: g'night!
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06/28/05 22:40:39 Janis_in_Okla Logs in [70.241.54.13]
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06/28/05 22:40:59 Janis_in_Okla Logs in [70.241.54.13]
06/28/05 22:41:35 Janis_in_Okla changes name to Jany
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06/28/05 23:55:54 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.157.102.64]
06/28/05 23:56:26 Jana_in_Indiana: testing
06/28/05 23:56:41 Jana_in_Indiana: testing
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