06/22/05 09:10:15 Nik__MI Logs in [69.216.125.183] 06/22/05 09:10:25 Nik__MI Logs Out 06/22/05 19:28:59 Chris_in_Colorado Logs in [172.196.174.146] 06/22/05 19:30:29 Chris_in_Colorado Logs Out 06/22/05 19:49:50 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34] 06/22/05 19:50:01 Tony__IL Logs Out 06/22/05 19:58:13 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34] 06/22/05 19:58:27 Tony__IL Logs Out 06/22/05 20:01:19 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34] 06/22/05 20:01:26 Tony__IL Logs Out 06/22/05 20:01:52 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.129.99.66] 06/22/05 20:02:40 sunshine Logs in [68.104.132.18] 06/22/05 20:02:48 sherry__(Mo): Hi Amy! 06/22/05 20:03:05 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34] 06/22/05 20:03:15 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tony 06/22/05 20:03:42 Tony__IL: Hi Sherrywho is Sunshine? 06/22/05 20:03:45 sunshine: aherry, I came because cheryl said she had talked to both you and Jana and hadn't got a reply. I am so glad you are here. theintense heat is making me terribly sick and I really need to it is 112 here right now. 06/22/05 20:04:13 sherry__(Mo): Wow Amy-that is HOT!! 06/22/05 20:04:21 sunshine: my husband is also vry ill, so now that you and Tony are here, I must leave. 06/22/05 20:04:31 sherry__(Mo): Take care! 06/22/05 20:04:40 sunshine: thank you and goodbye. 06/22/05 20:04:50 sunshine Logs Out 06/22/05 20:05:50 Tony__IL: Did you talk with me and no reply?? The camera batteries ewre dead so will try to get a pic of the shelves tomorrow 06/22/05 20:06:06 sherry__(Mo): Cheryl's local club had their meeting tonight so she won't be here. 06/22/05 20:06:29 Tony__IL: OK, wish I had a local club 06/22/05 20:06:53 sherry__(Mo): I wish you did too! Why don't you start one? 06/22/05 20:07:09 Tony__IL: wouldn't even know where to start 06/22/05 20:07:37 sherry__(Mo): I think AVSA could give you information to help you start one 06/22/05 20:08:18 Tony__IL: probably. Was thinking they should run an article about the earlier hybridizers in an issue 06/22/05 20:08:44 sherry__(Mo): That would be a great idea Tony! 06/22/05 20:08:59 Tony__IL: Should e-mail the editor. 06/22/05 20:09:03 sherry__(Mo): Why don't you write an article? 06/22/05 20:09:15 Tony__IL: Did Jana have an article in the May-June issue? 06/22/05 20:09:54 sherry__(Mo): Was that the one about the hose around the top of the pots? Not sure which month it was in. 06/22/05 20:09:57 Tony__IL: about tuing around the rim of pots? 06/22/05 20:10:09 tsviolets Logs in [24.236.76.134] 06/22/05 20:10:20 tsviolets: hello everyone 06/22/05 20:10:24 Tony__IL: tubing, yes. I can't find the stupid magazine anyplace 06/22/05 20:10:25 sherry__(Mo): I know I saw it in one of the issues-I thought, anyway. 06/22/05 20:10:36 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tate!! 06/22/05 20:10:47 Tony__IL: Hi Tate 06/22/05 20:10:51 tsviolets: helloooooooooo 06/22/05 20:11:00 tsviolets: hope everyone had a good day 06/22/05 20:11:31 Tony__IL: No rain out there yet, but the buckets are in place 06/22/05 20:11:32 sherry__(Mo): Cheryl usually does the Wed chat, but her local club is having a meeting tonight. 06/22/05 20:11:49 tsviolets: yeah for meetings 06/22/05 20:12:00 sherry__(Mo): Is it supposed to rain Tony? We could sure use it here! 06/22/05 20:12:14 Tony__IL: I hope so too 06/22/05 20:12:22 tsviolets: back in a few minutes 06/22/05 20:12:29 sherry__(Mo): Are there any local AV clubs in your area Tate? 06/22/05 20:13:02 Tony__IL: mine are about 60 miles away 06/22/05 20:13:29 sherry__(Mo): Darn Tony. Do they notify you shen they have their shows and sales? 06/22/05 20:13:30 Tony__IL: and evening meetings 06/22/05 20:14:04 Tony__IL: They each have a spring and fall show/sale 06/22/05 20:14:35 Tony__IL: usually the State meeting is near Chicago and thats about 2 hrs. drive 06/22/05 20:14:44 sherry__(Mo): The clubs I belong too have evening meetings, but I think one of the other clubs meet on Friday mornings and the other is on Saturday mornings. 06/22/05 20:15:06 sherry__(Mo): Do you live in a small city or a larger city? 06/22/05 20:15:15 Tony__IL: you're in Kansas City, right? 06/22/05 20:15:37 sherry__(Mo): Independence-just east of KC 06/22/05 20:15:55 Tony__IL: Truman, I knew that !! 06/22/05 20:16:06 sherry__(Mo): LOL-good ol' Harry 06/22/05 20:16:26 Tony__IL: Sterling is in NW IL and about 12,000 06/22/05 20:16:55 Tony__IL: mainly farm land 06/22/05 20:16:58 sherry__(Mo): Do you think there are other people in the area that would help you start a club? 06/22/05 20:17:33 sherry__(Mo): Lucky you!! Farm land! I can't wait to get moved off Main Street USA 06/22/05 20:17:39 Tony__IL: no idea. Talked with one of the Master Gardners at the Ext. Service, but she knew of none 06/22/05 20:18:43 sherry__(Mo): So many people are like I was and didn't know there were so many different kinds of AV's. Maybe you could get the local newspaper to do an article on YOU and your hobby! 06/22/05 20:18:54 Chris_in_Colorado Logs in [172.196.174.146] 06/22/05 20:19:01 Tony__IL: a couple of gals at the hospital said they'd stop, but so far a no show 06/22/05 20:19:02 sherry__(Mo): Hi Chris 06/22/05 20:19:16 Tony__IL: hi Chris 06/22/05 20:19:23 sherry__(Mo): Take some to them at the hospital 06/22/05 20:19:30 Chris_in_Colorado: howdy 06/22/05 20:20:00 sherry__(Mo): I think if more people saw them, they'd get addicted like we have 06/22/05 20:20:13 Chris_in_Colorado: addicted? who is addicted? 06/22/05 20:20:18 sherry__(Mo): LOL 06/22/05 20:20:40 Tony__IL: not unless you got over 100 LOL 06/22/05 20:20:54 Chris_in_Colorado: oh I am so so safe 06/22/05 20:21:06 Chris_in_Colorado: well at least til next week LOL 06/22/05 20:21:42 sherry__(Mo): And that's easy to do when you have to have everything you see-LOL. I've gotten better, now, though, and am more selective....only because I don't have the room or time 06/22/05 20:21:44 Tony__IL: just about >| |< far away LOL 06/22/05 20:21:59 Chris_in_Colorado: LOL Tony 06/22/05 20:22:13 Chris_in_Colorado: do you have to count leaves? 06/22/05 20:22:37 Tony__IL: not yet, them you have to count babies 06/22/05 20:23:07 Chris_in_Colorado: I have 27 plantlets, 2 noids and ...... counting here 06/22/05 20:23:21 sherry__(Mo): They definitly have a way of multiplying. 06/22/05 20:23:23 Tony__IL: does this group do a lot of swapping of leaves, plants? 06/22/05 20:23:23 Chris_in_Colorado: 7 leaves 06/22/05 20:23:34 Chris_in_Colorado: Tony I am about to 06/22/05 20:24:01 Chris_in_Colorado: actually I dont have anything to swap but have made 2 promises LOL 06/22/05 20:24:28 Tony__IL: well for $3.85 you can send about 20-30 leaves. 06/22/05 20:24:50 sherry__(Mo): It's been too hectic around here to do any trading-hopefully things will calm down soon 06/22/05 20:24:53 Chris_in_Colorado: not if you get them from ebay 06/22/05 20:25:03 Tony__IL: I send some to Sweden. Can't wait for her package 06/22/05 20:25:23 Tony__IL: eBay is $$ 06/22/05 20:25:23 Chris_in_Colorado: oh Tony that has to be fun, how long will it take them to get there? 06/22/05 20:25:25 sherry__(Mo): Tony, how did the ones you get from her look?!! 06/22/05 20:25:41 Tony__IL: 6 days to Sweden 06/22/05 20:25:53 Tony__IL: not here yet 06/22/05 20:25:56 sherry__(Mo): That isn't bad at all! 06/22/05 20:26:04 Chris_in_Colorado: I bet they do just fine 06/22/05 20:26:12 sherry__(Mo): Let me know when you get them!! 06/22/05 20:26:28 Tony__IL: she is using the same box I sent them in, so should be OK 06/22/05 20:26:44 Chris_in_Colorado: will be a well traveled box 06/22/05 20:26:53 sherry__(Mo): Chris, have you ordered leaves from Fay Wagman? Her leaves are only $1.00 06/22/05 20:27:09 Tony__IL: cost $6.40 to mail14 leaves 06/22/05 20:27:11 Chris_in_Colorado: I havent Sherry does she have a site? 06/22/05 20:27:41 Tony__IL: not sure if she does, ask Jana 06/22/05 20:27:49 sherry__(Mo): I think there is a link under Venor's in the files-she probably has 2000 AV's listed 06/22/05 20:28:08 sherry__(Mo): BRB-I'll get it 06/22/05 20:28:32 Tony__IL: can't see how 1 person could keep up with that ? 06/22/05 20:29:24 Tony__IL: I can hardly keep up with what I have LOL 06/22/05 20:29:26 tsviolets Logs Out 06/22/05 20:30:04 TSViolets Logs in [24.236.76.134] 06/22/05 20:30:12 Tony__IL: w/b Tate 06/22/05 20:30:12 Chris_in_Colorado: found it.. Bloomin Jungle also has leaves for $1 06/22/05 20:30:15 TSViolets: ty 06/22/05 20:31:10 Tony__IL: guess I can't see bidding on a plant for $4+ on eBay when you can get them for a buck 06/22/05 20:31:27 sherry__(Mo): http://www.janesworld.org/avs/index.html 06/22/05 20:31:47 Chris_in_Colorado: thanks Sherry I saved it 06/22/05 20:31:58 Chris_in_Colorado: where they get you is shipping 06/22/05 20:32:09 Chris_in_Colorado: I know it takes time and supplies but egads 06/22/05 20:32:20 Tony__IL: there were a couple plants that went for $40+ for just one plant !! 06/22/05 20:32:35 Chris_in_Colorado: Ive seen several go that high 06/22/05 20:32:49 sherry__(Mo): Can sure get alot more by getting leaves, can't ya Tony-and worry about what to do with them as the get bigger and bigger 06/22/05 20:33:11 Chris_in_Colorado: ah... I need a new stand LOL 06/22/05 20:33:17 sherry__(Mo): I'd be afraid to pay that much-with my luck it would croak! 06/22/05 20:33:21 Tony__IL: and USPS insurance is worthless, as the plants & leaves are perishable and they won't pay 06/22/05 20:33:33 Chris_in_Colorado: and some still sell it 06/22/05 20:33:53 Tony__IL: right Sherry 06/22/05 20:34:18 Chris_in_Colorado: has anyone heard a update for Millies daughter in the last few days? 06/22/05 20:34:38 Tony__IL: and some still buy it because the description contains the word "rare" 06/22/05 20:34:57 Tony__IL: haven't heard anything about Millie since Sunday 06/22/05 20:34:58 Chris_in_Colorado: LOL 06/22/05 20:35:00 sherry__(Mo): I haven't. I thought Jana would be here tonight, but maybe something came up. 06/22/05 20:35:13 Chris_in_Colorado: I hope all is okay 06/22/05 20:35:34 sherry__(Mo): Me too 06/22/05 20:35:59 sherry__(Mo): Chris, how long have you been growing AV's? 06/22/05 20:37:36 Chris_in_Colorado: oh gosh, Ive had them off and on for years, My grandmother grew them, from leaves, from seeds, she liked to cross them and see what she got. but to have named ones.. just a few months 06/22/05 20:38:25 Chris_in_Colorado: I have my ole fathful noids,, 06/22/05 20:38:45 sherry__(Mo): That is neat about your grandmother!! I could never keep them alive until I joined this group. 06/22/05 20:38:47 Chris_in_Colorado: how long have you had avs? 06/22/05 20:39:02 sherry__(Mo): A couple of years 06/22/05 20:39:16 Tony__IL: same for me 06/22/05 20:39:17 Chris_in_Colorado: Tony? Ts? 06/22/05 20:39:48 sherry__(Mo): I think we may have started about the same time, didn't we Tony? 06/22/05 20:40:01 Chris_in_Colorado: my grandmother was something else, she made candies.. the chocolate kind, had a store, and could grow a stick if she wanted it to grow 06/22/05 20:40:09 Tony__IL: think I lost as many as survived. LOL 06/22/05 20:40:19 sherry__(Mo): LOL-same here! 06/22/05 20:40:35 Chris_in_Colorado: I can leave the dying part out 06/22/05 20:40:40 sherry__(Mo): Sounds like a great lady Chris! 06/22/05 20:40:45 Chris_in_Colorado: she was 06/22/05 20:41:18 Tony__IL: I remeber 1 box of about 20 leaves. All died before the week was out 06/22/05 20:41:34 sherry__(Mo): LOL Tony 06/22/05 20:42:00 Tony__IL: back in a mnute 06/22/05 20:42:25 Chris_in_Colorado: I lost some plantlets that got way too hot getting here, I got 6, 4 were dead coming out of the box.. 1 held on for weeks and just last week, went over the edge, and one is hangin in there, but I dont hold much hope, it has not grown one bit.. and its look 06/22/05 20:42:26 Chris_in_Colorado: sick 06/22/05 20:43:11 sherry__(Mo): I started out with a Walmart special. Then I got 3 leaves on an Ebay auction and couldn't believe it when they finally had babies. But I've sure lost my share of leaves too! 06/22/05 20:44:16 Chris_in_Colorado: so far the only leaves I lost were two that were broken when I got plants, with hardly any stem, but what I think did it was I tried root hormone,, and they rotted and turned black where the root stuff touched them, so no more rootone 06/22/05 20:44:37 sherry__(Mo): That's too bad Chris. It's getting hot here-I don't even try to put down leaves in the summer, not til we get bigger central air system-our's is too small for the house and it gets warm in here 06/22/05 20:45:09 Chris_in_Colorado: Im lucky in that this house is a bi level, and the downstairs is so nice and cool,, I think it will be okay 06/22/05 20:45:22 Tony__IL: back now 06/22/05 20:45:22 sherry__(Mo): Good! 06/22/05 20:46:01 Chris_in_Colorado: I have leaves coming this week, I hope they do okay 06/22/05 20:46:11 sherry__(Mo): My daughter, her husband, and my 2 grandkids are living here with us right now so my AV's have really gotten englected. 06/22/05 20:46:28 sherry__(Mo): I hope they arrive ok, too. 06/22/05 20:47:10 sherry__(Mo): I do have leaves down I'd gotten from Fay, but I got them down early enough, I think they'll be ok/ 06/22/05 20:47:22 Tony__IL: I got a box from TX today and is was fine 06/22/05 20:47:40 sherry__(Mo): Good Tony! Was it from Cheryl? 06/22/05 20:47:58 Tony__IL: yes, from Cheryl. Didn't expect it 06/22/05 20:48:15 Chris_in_Colorado: what did you get Tony? 06/22/05 20:48:18 Tony__IL: Christmas in June LOL 06/22/05 20:48:27 sherry__(Mo): I'm worried about sending things to Del next month. Guess I'll just see what happens 06/22/05 20:48:48 Chris_in_Colorado: just need a window of rainy weather 06/22/05 20:48:54 Tony__IL: about 15 different varieties, 2 of each (leaves) 06/22/05 20:48:57 sherry__(Mo): If things don't make it, I can resend to him when it cools off some here 06/22/05 20:49:09 sherry__(Mo): That was sweet of her-she's such a nice person 06/22/05 20:49:13 Chris_in_Colorado: wow 06/22/05 20:49:45 Tony__IL: took 1/2 the afternoon to get them all in their new homes. LOL 06/22/05 20:49:51 Chris_in_Colorado: how do they package the leaves? 06/22/05 20:50:01 Chris_in_Colorado: but a good way to spend an afternoon 06/22/05 20:50:06 sherry__(Mo): When she emailed me about not being able to get to chat tonight, she said she's getting ready to groom some of her trailers and will send me a list 06/22/05 20:50:17 Tony__IL: zip lick bags. 06/22/05 20:50:40 Chris_in_Colorado: and then in a box? 06/22/05 20:50:45 sherry__(Mo): like I have a place for them....but who can turn down trailers-LOL 06/22/05 20:50:48 Tony__IL: I have some pics in the photos section on VR as to how I send them. 06/22/05 20:51:16 Tony__IL: she put shredded newspaper in the box 06/22/05 20:51:36 sherry__(Mo): Do you soak your leaves before you send them Tony? I've probably asked before but don't remember 06/22/05 20:52:05 Chris_in_Colorado: Shredded paper sounds good 06/22/05 20:52:33 Tony__IL: no I didn't soak the ones I send to Sweden. Also did not put anything around the petiole base 06/22/05 20:53:00 Chris_in_Colorado: The guy at Violet Showcase told me how he does it.. so Im going to try it that way,, oh I hope it works LOL 06/22/05 20:53:11 sherry__(Mo): I think they ship better when you don't wrap them too 06/22/05 20:53:26 sherry__(Mo): how did he say to do it Chris? 06/22/05 20:54:13 Tony__IL: I use 2 staples in the bag, 1 around the largest part of the leaf and one arounf the petiole. That way it can't move in the baggie. Del's idea 06/22/05 20:54:20 Chris_in_Colorado: he says to soak them 24 hrs in a mixture of Seaweed Extract and superthrive, then recut and plant in leaf soil.. use the mixture to also wet the soil, and if it needs added moisture, use the mixture, bag them 06/22/05 20:55:20 Chris_in_Colorado: I would think if you got them in the mail, you might want to recut before you soak wouldnt that make sense? 06/22/05 20:56:00 sherry__(Mo): Makes sense to me 06/22/05 20:56:11 Tony__IL: I would think so to give them a new cut, incase it is dried up, Chris 06/22/05 20:56:17 Chris_in_Colorado: he also uses that mixture as a foliage spray, he says to spray the plantlets about once a week with it,, mine sure have taken off since I started doing that 06/22/05 20:57:07 Tony__IL: Chris, what are the ingredients and measurements for the spray? 06/22/05 20:57:34 Chris_in_Colorado: its one tablespoon of seaweed extract.. and 5 drops of superthrive in a gal of water 06/22/05 20:58:13 Chris_in_Colorado: this is the Growmore brand, 100% natural organic kelp it says 06/22/05 20:58:52 Tony__IL: thanks 06/22/05 20:59:01 Chris_in_Colorado: it was just under $6 for 16 oz so at one tablespoon for a gal it should last for awhile 06/22/05 20:59:46 sherry__(Mo): Did Tate ever make it back? 06/22/05 21:00:14 Tony__IL: thought so 06/22/05 21:00:36 sherry__(Mo): Yahoooo, are ya here Tate?! 06/22/05 21:00:55 Chris_in_Colorado: I think he is asleep 06/22/05 21:01:13 sherry__(Mo): LOL 06/22/05 21:01:13 Tony__IL: coffee break 06/22/05 21:01:27 Chris_in_Colorado: or a break because he drank too much coffee 06/22/05 21:01:39 sherry__(Mo): LOL 06/22/05 21:01:40 Tony__IL: could also be that 06/22/05 21:02:21 sherry__(Mo): I wonder if Cheryl ahd a subject for us to takj about tonight 06/22/05 21:02:41 Chris_in_Colorado: oh I hope not LOL because we are way off 06/22/05 21:02:58 Chris_in_Colorado: dont think this chat needs logged for sure 06/22/05 21:03:16 sherry__(Mo): I agree there Chris! 06/22/05 21:03:30 Tony__IL: well, if she did, she didn't share it, so I guess she'll have to do it tomorrow night 06/22/05 21:03:43 sherry__(Mo): LOL 06/22/05 21:03:43 Chris_in_Colorado: my husband still isnt home, he is working really long hours 06/22/05 21:04:07 Tony__IL: where does he work? 06/22/05 21:04:09 sherry__(Mo): more time for you to care for your AV's Chris! 06/22/05 21:04:24 TSViolets: has anyone used that gel stuff for leaves 06/22/05 21:04:31 Chris_in_Colorado: he does heating and air conditioning systems, does the heat calcs.. etc 06/22/05 21:04:46 Chris_in_Colorado: I havent tried it 06/22/05 21:05:11 TSViolets: I have seen where a few people are using it 06/22/05 21:05:39 sherry__(Mo): I tried it but didn't have the luck with it that some of the others kad-but it was great for rooting crowns 06/22/05 21:05:40 TSViolets: i have only used promix 06/22/05 21:05:40 Chris_in_Colorado: my grandson wants me to come see something, he is visiting,, so I will call it a night, take care, happy violet growing night 06/22/05 21:05:51 Chris_in_Colorado Logs Out 06/22/05 21:06:15 TSViolets: rooting crowns well that is good to know 06/22/05 21:06:36 sherry__(Mo): Del send me some of the gel crystals or what ever they are called so I'm trying those -so far so good 06/22/05 21:06:51 TSViolets: i have been wanting to try and get a chimera, and that is the way to prop them 06/22/05 21:06:57 Tony__IL: have 4 leaves in the gel2root, but only about 1 week or so 06/22/05 21:07:01 Tony__IL: night Chris 06/22/05 21:07:18 TSViolets: tony, where did you get your gel 06/22/05 21:07:43 Tony__IL: Jana sent me a small bag, enough to fill 4 medicine cups 06/22/05 21:08:05 sherry__(Mo): I ordered mine-got the address from Jana 06/22/05 21:08:21 Tony__IL: Kinda wish I lived where she does. All sorts of outlets for stuff 06/22/05 21:08:43 TSViolets: cool, 06/22/05 21:08:55 TSViolets: i have seen the stuff in a couple of catalogs 06/22/05 21:09:09 Tony__IL: Tate, where do you live? 06/22/05 21:09:13 TSViolets: well, I think i am headed for bed 06/22/05 21:09:15 TSViolets: alabama 06/22/05 21:09:31 Tony__IL: have a good one, Tate 06/22/05 21:09:32 TSViolets: all the best everyone, see you again soon 06/22/05 21:09:39 TSViolets Logs Out 06/22/05 21:10:10 sherry__(Mo): Shall we call it a night Tony? 06/22/05 21:10:18 Tony__IL: Yes, Cheryl sent me a bunch of leaves. Didn't expect that 06/22/05 21:10:31 sherry__(Mo): What did she send? 06/22/05 21:10:49 sherry__(Mo): standards? 06/22/05 21:11:00 sherry__(Mo): She is really a sweet person 06/22/05 21:11:07 Tony__IL: semis, standards, green, variegated, quite a variety 06/22/05 21:11:33 sherry__(Mo): that was nice of her! 06/22/05 21:11:56 Tony__IL: suprising, the AV fairy must have told her what to pick, 'cause none are dups of what I have 06/22/05 21:12:09 sherry__(Mo): Wow!! That was great! 06/22/05 21:12:46 Tony__IL: well, catch you tomorrow. I will have to post a list of trades I can do 06/22/05 21:13:09 sherry__(Mo): Take care Tony!! 06/22/05 21:13:16 Tony__IL: nite Sherry 06/22/05 21:13:21 sherry__(Mo): See ya tomorrow night! 06/22/05 21:13:22 Tony__IL Logs Out 06/22/05 21:13:25 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out 06/22/05 21:15:43 Okie Logs in [68.12.244.136] 06/22/05 21:15:49 Okie Logs Out 06/22/05 21:24:14 Cheryl-TX Logs in [68.94.3.245] 06/22/05 21:24:40 Cheryl-TX Logs Out 06/22/05 21:28:32 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34] 06/22/05 21:28:37 Tony__IL Logs Out 06/22/05 21:30:48 Janis Logs in [70.241.54.13] 06/22/05 21:31:13 Janis Logs Out 06/22/05 22:42:43 Janis Logs in [70.241.54.13] 06/22/05 22:42:50 Janis Logs Out 06/22/05 23:16:12 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.133.174.111] 06/22/05 23:16:25 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out