06/19/05 19:35:17 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
06/19/05 19:35:23 Clare_KS Logs Out
06/19/05 19:38:57 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.159.246.60]
06/19/05 19:44:46 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
06/19/05 19:44:56 Clare_KS: Hi Jana
06/19/05 19:45:01 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Clare
06/19/05 19:45:11 Jana_in_Indiana: BRB, was feeding the fish
06/19/05 19:45:15 Clare_KS: I can't believe no one has bingoed yet!
06/19/05 19:47:33 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, me too!  I know I won't win, never do
06/19/05 19:47:50 Jana_in_Indiana: but I'm closer this month than I usually am
06/19/05 19:49:25 Clare_KS: How long does it usually go?
06/19/05 19:49:45 Jana_in_Indiana: should have a winner before the end of the week
06/19/05 19:50:16 Clare_KS: I have to leave town on Wednesday, so Rachel takes over as of Thursday.
06/19/05 19:50:29 Jana_in_Indiana: takes over calling?
06/19/05 19:51:08 Clare_KS: yes
06/19/05 19:51:09 Jana_in_Indiana: going on vacation?
06/19/05 19:51:17 Clare_KS: Sort of...seeing family :)
06/19/05 19:51:31 Clare_KS: We're taking the baby back "home" to see my family for the first time.
06/19/05 19:51:43 Jana_in_Indiana: at least it's a change of scenery!
06/19/05 19:51:45 Clare_KS: Home being Pittsburgh, PA where my husband and I grew up
06/19/05 19:51:52 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, how old is the baby?
06/19/05 19:51:57 Clare_KS: 11 months
06/19/05 19:52:07 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, still a small one
06/19/05 19:52:12 Clare_KS: A great age, he's very mobile and talking a bit
06/19/05 19:52:38 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, it is a fun, cute age!  This Christmas will be a treat for you!
06/19/05 19:52:49 Clare_KS: My Mom is 86, hard for her to fly now.
06/19/05 19:52:53 Jana_in_Indiana: your 1st?
06/19/05 19:53:00 Jana_in_Indiana: no doubt!
06/19/05 19:53:03 Clare_KS: no, we have a 7 year old girl, too.
06/19/05 19:53:07 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/19/05 19:53:10 Clare_KS: But they've been with her a lot :)
06/19/05 19:53:43 Jana_in_Indiana: it's good for kids to know their grandparents, my son (17) is at my parents home now
06/19/05 19:54:05 Clare_KS: Also, my son hasn't been there for 15 years and my daughter-in-law has never been there...
06/19/05 19:54:13 Clare_KS: they want to see all the places we talk about all the time.
06/19/05 19:54:21 Jana_in_Indiana: my dad & him are fishin' buddies, LOL!  Next will be hunting, I'm afraid, LOL!
06/19/05 19:54:32 Clare_KS: that's great.
06/19/05 19:54:52 Clare_KS: I grew up with my grandparents and aunts and uncles and cousins all within 2 blocks
06/19/05 19:54:54 Jana_in_Indiana: so you have an older son too?
06/19/05 19:55:01 Clare_KS: My kids grew up without since we moved so much.
06/19/05 19:55:03 Jana_in_Indiana: that's wonderful!
06/19/05 19:55:30 Clare_KS: Two girls, 34 and 31 and son 24
06/19/05 19:55:52 Jana_in_Indiana: and an 11 month old!  Goodness, you're a brave one!  LOL!
06/19/05 19:56:15 Clare_KS: hey, wait, he's our GRAND son :)
06/19/05 19:56:24 Clare_KS: and the 7 year old is granddaughter
06/19/05 19:56:35 Jana_in_Indiana: well dang girl, you should have said that, ROTF!
06/19/05 19:56:36 Clare_KS: I'm OLLLLDDDD
06/19/05 19:57:00 Jana_in_Indiana: me too!  LOL!
06/19/05 19:57:04 Clare_KS: Haven't had my "parts" for 20 years now.
06/19/05 19:57:20 Clare_KS: But I'm a baby NUT, I adore anything baby.
06/19/05 19:58:03 Jana_in_Indiana: me too!  that's why I did wildlife rehab, had babies of anything you can imagine!  Even hatched nests full of Mallard eggs
06/19/05 19:59:01 Clare_KS: That sounds like fun.
06/19/05 19:59:07 Clare_KS: We raised goats and birds.
06/19/05 19:59:26 Jana_in_Indiana: yup, gotta have babies around!
06/19/05 19:59:31 Clare_KS: I'm worn out now, just want to raise violets and play with the grandkids.
06/19/05 20:00:00 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, you can send them home when you've had your fill!  LOL
06/19/05 20:00:02 Clare_KS: I'm ready for a new house with no animal hair in it :)
06/19/05 20:00:11 Clare_KS: Will be a while before that happens, I'm afraid.
06/19/05 20:00:46 Jana_in_Indiana: gawd!  Me too, that's why I have yorkies, no shedding -- my daughter's cat isn't allowed back, he sheds awfully!
06/19/05 20:04:09 Shellie_CA Logs in [172.194.63.208]
06/19/05 20:04:14 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Shellie!
06/19/05 20:04:16 Clare_KS: Hi Shellie
06/19/05 20:04:45 Shellie_CA: Hi Clare and Jana
06/19/05 20:05:37 Shellie_CA: quite nite so far
06/19/05 20:05:47 Clare_KS: Do we have a topic tonight?
06/19/05 20:05:52 Shellie_CA: quiet not quite
06/19/05 20:06:20 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
06/19/05 20:06:26 Carol_SK Logs in [142.165.180.32]
06/19/05 20:06:29 Shellie_CA: hi Tony
06/19/05 20:06:31 Clare_KS: Hi and Hi
06/19/05 20:06:33 Shellie_CA: hi Carol
06/19/05 20:06:48 Carol_SK: Hi Shellie
06/19/05 20:06:56 Tony__IL: hi Carol. Clare, Jana and Shellie
06/19/05 20:06:58 Carol_SK: Hi Clare, Jana and Tony
06/19/05 20:07:01 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Carol, Tony
06/19/05 20:07:13 Jana_in_Indiana: I was just trying to read your e-mail Carol
06/19/05 20:07:22 Carol_SK: laffin, my epistle???
06/19/05 20:08:56 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, you did have a rough time of it!
06/19/05 20:09:06 Carol_SK: it was a disappointment...
06/19/05 20:09:22 Carol_SK: but your leaves are really happy, Jana!
06/19/05 20:10:37 Clare_KS: Do we have a topic tonight?
06/19/05 20:10:49 Jana_in_Indiana: still doing OK Carol?
06/19/05 20:10:56 Jana_in_Indiana: no, Sunday is always open chat
06/19/05 20:11:00 Carol_SK: yep they are looking very good
06/19/05 20:11:20 Jana_in_Indiana: something happened to Sherry's, I don't think even one survived!
06/19/05 20:11:34 Carol_SK: i find the Buckeyes seem particularly hardy, you could pass this on to Pat if you get a chance
06/19/05 20:12:02 Carol_SK: must be good genes
06/19/05 20:12:45 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I will, yes, she won't keep any that don't meet up to her expectations -- which are high!
06/19/05 20:13:23 Carol_SK: i can definitely see a strength in hers that does not appear in many others
06/19/05 20:13:42 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, much like PM, it comes down to genetics
06/19/05 20:14:25 Carol_SK: I am really hoping some of my 'sickly' ones will make it, they were little trailers that I particularly wanted
06/19/05 20:14:50 Jana_in_Indiana: do you want me to wait till after your move to send plantlets?
06/19/05 20:15:21 Carol_SK: Tony, Happy Father's Day to you
06/19/05 20:15:25 Tony__IL: what were the trailers?
06/19/05 20:15:34 Carol_SK: yes, Jana I think that will be best
06/19/05 20:15:46 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I thought so too! ;)
06/19/05 20:15:46 Tony__IL: thanks Carol
06/19/05 20:16:09 Jana_in_Indiana: Shellie, how are the leaves doing I sent you?
06/19/05 20:16:16 Jana_in_Indiana: & you too Tony?
06/19/05 20:16:40 Carol_SK: Tony I am not sure, since there were no descriptions I would have to check the name and then read a description of them
06/19/05 20:17:19 Shellie_CA: The tray they were in got dumped.  I saved what I could but have no idea who's who
06/19/05 20:17:28 Carol_SK: truth to tell, the whole order is in a bit of a mess
06/19/05 20:17:31 Tony__IL: let me know. I have a few trailers Carol tclayt2001@yahoo.com
06/19/05 20:17:45 Carol_SK: thanks Tony that would be wonderful
06/19/05 20:17:45 Jana_in_Indiana: I remember that but did any die or rot?
06/19/05 20:18:25 Clare_KS: What happened, Carol?
06/19/05 20:18:37 Shellie_CA: yes some did
06/19/05 20:18:55 Jana_in_Indiana: oh no!  Did they arrive rotted?
06/19/05 20:19:09 Carol_SK: Clare, sometimes ordering from the US shipping to Canada is a challenge
06/19/05 20:19:19 Shellie_CA: no they arrived in perfect shape - they took the beating in the move
06/19/05 20:19:28 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/19/05 20:20:08 Jana_in_Indiana: not a challenge if you're some stupid american that doesn't know better!  LOL Right Carol?
06/19/05 20:20:46 Shellie_CA: all my plants look terrible what with my turning them to palm trees and the dipping - 3 dip tomorrow
06/19/05 20:21:11 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, you're not dipping them all on the same day?
06/19/05 20:21:17 Tony__IL: dipping for what Shellie?
06/19/05 20:21:26 Carol_SK: Laffin Jana, I really think something could have been done differently
06/19/05 20:21:32 Shellie_CA: yes I am - Avid for broad mites
06/19/05 20:21:39 Tony__IL: bummer
06/19/05 20:21:46 Shellie_CA: you bet
06/19/05 20:22:07 Jana_in_Indiana: C, I'll bet the extra $$$ you were charged was based on the cash value listed on the package, I saw that on the customs form
06/19/05 20:22:08 Carol_SK: Clare I paid a fortune for leaves and many were total compost, some were just severly wilted and a couple were OK
06/19/05 20:22:24 Clare_KS: oh, Carol, I'm so sorry!
06/19/05 20:22:35 Clare_KS: Was the packing job bad or just took too long to get there?
06/19/05 20:22:40 Carol_SK: well, it was a learning experience
06/19/05 20:22:49 Tony__IL: order them from me and Del told me how to ship
06/19/05 20:23:02 Jana_in_Indiana: here come Sherry!  Must have hear me talking about her!  :P
06/19/05 20:23:04 Carol_SK: No, I must admit the packing job got the highest rating of anything... laffin
06/19/05 20:23:13 Clare_KS: Tony, I keep looking on eBay for you, where else do you sell?
06/19/05 20:23:39 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I really do speak better english than I type!
06/19/05 20:23:49 Tony__IL: not selling now.  Just giving them away. LOL
06/19/05 20:24:13 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.172.83.245]
06/19/05 20:24:18 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sherry!
06/19/05 20:24:19 Shellie_CA: hi Sherry
06/19/05 20:24:21 Clare_KS: oh. You just said "order from me"
06/19/05 20:24:22 Tony__IL: hi Sherry
06/19/05 20:24:24 sherry__(Mo): Hi Jana!!
06/19/05 20:24:41 Clare_KS: Hi Sherry
06/19/05 20:24:47 Jana_in_Indiana: e-mail him Clare, you'll work something out
06/19/05 20:24:49 Clare_KS: Wasn't this a gorgeous day??
06/19/05 20:25:02 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tony, Carol, Clare, and Shellie
06/19/05 20:25:03 Jana_in_Indiana: I wouldn't know\
06/19/05 20:25:16 Tony__IL: not too bad here  either, Clare
06/19/05 20:25:40 Clare_KS: Where Sherry and I live, the humidity was very low, so it was a nice warm, sunny PLEASANT day.
06/19/05 20:25:46 Clare_KS: Don't get many of those here.
06/19/05 20:25:48 Jana_in_Indiana: spent the day inside worshiping the porcelain god!
06/19/05 20:25:51 Tony__IL: we can get you started Clare
06/19/05 20:25:59 sherry__(Mo): Great (and it little warm!) here
06/19/05 20:26:09 Clare_KS: oh, no, Jana!
06/19/05 20:26:13 sherry__(Mo): Jana, are you feeling any better?
06/19/05 20:26:15 Shellie_CA: it was a great day here too
06/19/05 20:26:45 Jana_in_Indiana: not really, but empty is empty & my only solution at the moment!  LOL!  Guess  it's stress
06/19/05 20:27:21 sherry__(Mo): I bet it is!
06/19/05 20:27:33 Jana_in_Indiana: pretty safe bet!  LOL
06/19/05 20:27:44 Shellie_CA: yeah, Jana, stress
06/19/05 20:27:45 Carol_SK: Jana next leaves I get with a customs form better say they are woprth $5.00
06/19/05 20:28:08 Jana_in_Indiana: it needs to be an amount less than 15 USD
06/19/05 20:28:38 Tony__IL: that's what I usually mark mine and as a gift
06/19/05 20:28:40 Jana_in_Indiana: or they will charge you a tax
06/19/05 20:29:07 Jana_in_Indiana: even if a gift, cash value must be less then $15 or they have to pay
06/19/05 20:29:27 Tony__IL: $5 and a gift
06/19/05 20:29:50 Carol_SK: well, how come the ones from the other place did not get X-tra taxes
06/19/05 20:30:05 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, do you really add epsom salts to the water you water leaves with -- like on the day you plant them?
06/19/05 20:30:53 Jana_in_Indiana: maybe they didn't list the value as being over $15?  I don't know, but heck, your Superthrive could have sent it way over $15 for my box, LOL!
06/19/05 20:30:54 Tony__IL: yes, Jana, I added them the first day of laying down the leaves
06/19/05 20:31:16 Jana_in_Indiana: cool!  Haven't tried it that early, but will next time
06/19/05 20:32:43 Jana_in_Indiana: got a bunch of white/cream babies poping up everywhere from convention leaves
06/19/05 20:32:52 sherry__(Mo): Neat!!
06/19/05 20:33:12 Jana_in_Indiana: Sherry, did any leaf I sent you survive?
06/19/05 20:33:18 Tony__IL: got 1/2 a    tray on a heating pad   and     see   if makes a difference
06/19/05 20:33:23 Carol_SK: well, I sure can't afford another shopping spree like that, and end up with half the merchandise, that is for sure
06/19/05 20:33:45 sherry__(Mo): Just 2 Jana
06/19/05 20:34:05 Carol_SK: Tony, do variegates like a heating pad for rooting and sprouting??
06/19/05 20:34:12 Jana_in_Indiana: just stick with us amateurs  , we'll beat the pros anytime Carol!
06/19/05 20:34:32 Tony__IL: tell you in a few weeks
06/19/05 20:34:42 sherry__(Mo): Tony, I forgot all about trying to find the heating pad
06/19/05 20:34:45 Jana_in_Indiana: dang Sherry, I wonder why?  Even the ones I sent Carol, on a slow boat to Canada are doing fine
06/19/05 20:35:04 sherry__(Mo): Maybe they didn't like me Jana!
06/19/05 20:35:06 Carol_SK: yes Jana that is so very true, but then by who's definition is who an amature and who a professional
06/19/05 20:35:10 Jana_in_Indiana: I didn't forget, but honestly haven't had time
06/19/05 20:35:32 Jana_in_Indiana: the ones that make a profit are the pros!  LOL
06/19/05 20:35:45 sherry__(Mo): That's kind of the way it's been around here-too much to do and not enough hours in the day
06/19/05 20:35:57 Tony__IL: 1000+ plants are the pros
06/19/05 20:35:59 Jana_in_Indiana: well, if they didn't like you -- they deserved to die!  :P
06/19/05 20:36:24 sherry__(Mo): Tony, isn't that about how many you have!?
06/19/05 20:36:31 sherry__(Mo): LOL Jana
06/19/05 20:36:43 Tony__IL: no, just a few 100, Sherry
06/19/05 20:36:56 Carol_SK: oh, so you are doing the experiment and I can benefit from your findings??
06/19/05 20:37:04 Carol_SK: sounds good to me Tony!
06/19/05 20:37:24 sherry__(Mo): But a few hundred can sure keep you busy!
06/19/05 20:37:28 Tony__IL: all I do is experiment.  LOL
06/19/05 20:37:34 Jana_in_Indiana: anyone seen Del on line?  Begining to think I'd better not send his box tomorrow
06/19/05 20:37:53 Jana_in_Indiana: me too Mr. T!  *)
06/19/05 20:38:04 sherry__(Mo): He won't be back from vacation until July I thought
06/19/05 20:38:04 Tony__IL: wasn't Del on vacation?
06/19/05 20:38:15 Carol_SK: I have not noticed him, but then I thought awhile ago he said they were going on holidays for a week or 2
06/19/05 20:38:21 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, then I definitely won't send him a box!  LOL
06/19/05 20:39:02 Jana_in_Indiana: somehow my brain remembers him saying to wait till next week to send it, must have been next month!
06/19/05 20:39:22 sherry__(Mo): I think he'll be back around the 15th of July-that's what I marked on the calander, anyway, 'cause I've got things to send too
06/19/05 20:39:34 Jana_in_Indiana: Mr. T, has Sophie-ann got the box yet?
06/19/05 20:39:46 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Sherry!
06/19/05 20:39:54 Tony__IL: no word from here yet, Jana
06/19/05 20:40:00 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/19/05 20:40:03 Shellie_CA: brb
06/19/05 20:40:30 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll wait till she has your box safely before sending mine
06/19/05 20:41:52 Jana_in_Indiana: wow, that is a great plan, now I don't have any boxes to pack tonight & haul to the PO!  Wasn't really in the mood anyway
06/19/05 20:42:24 Tony__IL: will send to Jane tomorrow in CA
06/19/05 20:42:31 Shellie_CA: bac--k+
06/19/05 20:42:38 Jana_in_Indiana: what you sending her?
06/19/05 20:42:57 Jana_in_Indiana: glad you're back Shellie
06/19/05 20:43:13 Tony__IL: whatever I pick up. Probably varietaged. LOL
06/19/05 20:43:25 Jana_in_Indiana: plants or leaves?
06/19/05 20:43:33 Tony__IL: leaves
06/19/05 20:43:46 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, lots easier to pack!
06/19/05 20:44:00 Clare_KS: Has anyone heard from Sarah lately?
06/19/05 20:44:04 Tony__IL: 14 to Sophie weighed in at 7.5 oz
06/19/05 20:44:17 Jana_in_Indiana: remember I got mad at the PO & ordered all those boxes, the darned fools brought the wrong ones!
06/19/05 20:44:23 Jana_in_Indiana: Sarah is on-line now
06/19/05 20:44:43 Tony__IL: 7x7x6
06/19/05 20:45:00 Jana_in_Indiana: yup, that's the size I need, & they didn't send!
06/19/05 20:45:41 Carol_SK: do boxes need to be a certain size?
06/19/05 20:46:15 Tony__IL: Post officcce her gives you some sizes for free
06/19/05 20:46:35 Jana_in_Indiana: no, but for Priority Mail or Global Priority, you can get free ones from the PO
06/19/05 20:46:43 Jana_in_Indiana: express mail too
06/19/05 20:47:01 Chris_ Logs in [172.195.121.102]
06/19/05 20:47:07 Shellie_CA: hi Chris
06/19/05 20:47:09 Tony__IL: hi Chris
06/19/05 20:47:09 Jana_in_Indiana: I have 75 boxes here now, not a one the size I need, LOL
06/19/05 20:47:13 Chris_: Hi everyone
06/19/05 20:47:16 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Chris
06/19/05 20:47:39 Chris_: everyone hot enough?
06/19/05 20:47:40 sherry__(Mo): Hi Chris
06/19/05 20:47:44 Jana_in_Indiana: but, I won't need to find boxes for Christmas presents this year!  LOL
06/19/05 20:48:07 Clare_KS: GOing to go watch a movie with my sweet husband :)
06/19/05 20:48:10 Jana_in_Indiana: A/C is on, nice & cool in here
06/19/05 20:48:14 Clare_KS: Talk to you Tuesday.
06/19/05 20:48:17 Clare_KS Logs Out
06/19/05 20:48:18 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Clare!
06/19/05 20:48:24 Chris_: night Clare
06/19/05 20:48:37 Chris_: it is still 88 and its going on 8...
06/19/05 20:48:56 sherry__(Mo): Take care Clare
06/19/05 20:49:04 Jana_in_Indiana: dang! :O
06/19/05 20:49:09 Chris_: inside is nice, just about died when I was watering outside just now
06/19/05 20:49:22 sherry__(Mo): My fingers aren't fast enougjh
06/19/05 20:49:44 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, watering!  Bet the tomatoes would appreciate that!
06/19/05 20:49:47 Tony__IL: brb
06/19/05 20:49:50 Shellie_CA: it has been really pleasant here all day - did not even need the swamp cooler
06/19/05 20:50:13 Chris_: Handsome and I spent several hours last night looking at lights and such, he is building me a new plant stand
06/19/05 20:50:23 Jana_in_Indiana: wonderful!
06/19/05 20:50:54 Chris_: he wants to get T8 lights , for some reason, I just nod and act sweet LOL
06/19/05 20:51:25 Jana_in_Indiana: keep it up, gets what you want!
06/19/05 20:51:28 Shellie_CA: what are T8 lights
06/19/05 20:51:45 Jana_in_Indiana: I sure hope Tony knows!
06/19/05 20:52:05 Chris_: the lights come in T12 and T8... guess they are cheaper to run,
06/19/05 20:52:18 Jana_in_Indiana: something about one kind won't work with only 1 buls, & something about the amount of power used,
06/19/05 20:52:30 Jana_in_Indiana: bulb*
06/19/05 20:52:53 Chris_: again, if finding what he wants gets him all excited about building this, I just let him
06/19/05 20:53:07 Jana_in_Indiana: heck yes!
06/19/05 20:53:28 Shellie_CA: are you referring to the skinny 1" flourescent bulbs as opposed to the 1 1/2 bulbs
06/19/05 20:53:38 Chris_: but I am suppose to ask a few questions,, of my friends who are experts on violets,, his words
06/19/05 20:53:47 Chris_: Shellie yes
06/19/05 20:53:51 Jana_in_Indiana: no, blubs aren't different, the light fixture is
06/19/05 20:54:14 Chris_: the bulbs are smaller around I think
06/19/05 20:54:21 Shellie_CA: When I put together my plant stand in Nov I bought those lights
06/19/05 20:54:30 Chris_: Shellie are they working/
06/19/05 20:54:31 Chris_: ?
06/19/05 20:54:38 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, there are different bulbs, & different fixtures
06/19/05 20:54:42 Shellie_CA: They use less electricity and produce more light
06/19/05 20:54:47 Chris_: okay here is o ne of my guestions...
06/19/05 20:55:10 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/19/05 20:55:22 Shellie_CA: yes they work well but in the beginning I had plants that grew tight centers
06/19/05 20:55:42 Chris_: he is in sheetmetal and can build anything... big smile... and he was wondering, if he build trays out of sheetmetal,, and removed the galvinised from it ( you do a wash with vinegar>> would it hurt the plants?
06/19/05 20:55:50 Shellie_CA: I had to cut down the time the lights were on to 9 hours
06/19/05 20:55:55 Jana_in_Indiana: all new bulbs are brighter for a while
06/19/05 20:56:02 Chris_: ahh was just going to ask what you did
06/19/05 20:56:15 Shellie_CA: that is true and these bulbs are brighter yet
06/19/05 20:56:29 sherry__(Mo): Why would you wash away the galvanized?
06/19/05 20:56:36 Jana_in_Indiana: why remove the galvanized finish?
06/19/05 20:56:39 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
06/19/05 20:56:44 Carol_SK: my question too
06/19/05 20:56:45 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/19/05 20:56:52 Carol_SK: lol
06/19/05 20:56:54 Chris_: it has an oily film that they come with?
06/19/05 20:57:11 Jana_in_Indiana: just wash with dishsoap
06/19/05 20:57:13 Chris_: was worried it would harm the plants
06/19/05 20:57:25 Jana_in_Indiana: doesn't the galvanized finish prevent rust?
06/19/05 20:57:28 Chris_: man you are making this easy?
06/19/05 20:57:37 Chris_: it does somewhat
06/19/05 20:57:45 Chris_: so metal wouldnt hurt huh?
06/19/05 20:58:09 Tony__IL: no clue 8 vs 12 lights
06/19/05 20:58:12 Jana_in_Indiana: don't know, I have some in foil pans
06/19/05 20:58:20 sherry__(Mo): same here
06/19/05 20:58:22 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Mr. T!
06/19/05 20:58:35 Shellie_CA: my sister uses galvanized buckets as water pails for her dogs so I doubt that galvanized pans would hurt the plants
06/19/05 20:58:39 Jana_in_Indiana: give it a try on a FEW, in case it doesn't work
06/19/05 20:58:48 Chris_: we looked for trays everywhere, and can find ones that are 6 inches deep
06/19/05 20:59:03 Chris_: Jana you are right.. these poor noids of mine..
06/19/05 20:59:09 Jana_in_Indiana: why do you need 6 inch deep trays?
06/19/05 20:59:18 Chris_: i dont, thats just what we found
06/19/05 20:59:40 Jana_in_Indiana: ok...I love the perma-nest trays
06/19/05 20:59:48 Jana_in_Indiana: very sturdy & durable
06/19/05 21:00:03 Chris_: so, is there any reason to make several vs. a few trays. maybe to feed a group different?
06/19/05 21:00:04 sherry__(Mo): Me too-but still haven't gotten the ones I ordered last month
06/19/05 21:00:45 Jana_in_Indiana: YES!  It will limit the spread of soil mealies should you end up with an AV with them
06/19/05 21:00:49 Chris_: guess I could look those up..
06/19/05 21:00:58 Chris_: boy thats why I love you guys
06/19/05 21:01:12 Jana_in_Indiana: and, smaller trays (not ones as big as the entire shelf, are easier to clean\
06/19/05 21:01:25 sherry__(Mo): I agree there!!
06/19/05 21:01:25 Chris_: didnt think of that..
06/19/05 21:01:35 Tony__IL: I'll have to become a distributor of them
06/19/05 21:01:45 Jana_in_Indiana: & winter will come & can't clean outside
06/19/05 21:01:56 Chris_: would save your back
06/19/05 21:01:56 sherry__(Mo): Go for it Tony!! I want 2 dozen!
06/19/05 21:02:01 Jana_in_Indiana: go for it tony, we need them, CHEAP!
06/19/05 21:02:39 Chris_: okay.. if you were building a stand, and could make it any size,, what would you do? we are thinking 4 foot lights
06/19/05 21:02:41 Jana_in_Indiana: Chris, you belong to VVV?
06/19/05 21:02:48 Chris_: Yes...
06/19/05 21:03:15 Jana_in_Indiana: make shelves about 4 1/2 feet long, so you can get 4 perma-nest trays side by side
06/19/05 21:03:29 Chris_: writing this down
06/19/05 21:03:29 Jana_in_Indiana: go to the files, there a list of vendors
06/19/05 21:03:37 sherry__(Mo): You're sure better off going with them. The cheap black ines start leaking, so it's cheaper in the long run to get the permanest
06/19/05 21:03:57 Jana_in_Indiana: & at least 22 " deep, front to back
06/19/05 21:04:05 Jana_in_Indiana: right Sherry!
06/19/05 21:04:12 Jana_in_Indiana: & they last forever!
06/19/05 21:04:34 sherry__(Mo): They sure do! Sue has some that she says are ancient LOL
06/19/05 21:04:42 Chris_: so the trays are 22x12?
06/19/05 21:04:59 Tony__IL: yepper
06/19/05 21:05:07 Jana_in_Indiana: the only thing I don't like about the kitchen pot/pan rack is that it's exactly 4 feet long, makes my permanest trays have to overlap at the lip
06/19/05 21:05:17 Chris_: we found the egg crate, big sheet was under $12
06/19/05 21:05:52 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, it's 10 here, 2 X 4 sheet I think, lots cheaper than anyone sells it already cut for wicking
06/19/05 21:06:01 Jana_in_Indiana: $10*
06/19/05 21:06:01 Tony__IL: I use 2 permanest and 2 black per rack J
06/19/05 21:06:40 Chris_: does the perma nest trays have lips?
06/19/05 21:06:53 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, that works, but I just hate those black flimsy things, even when I do use them (cause the tall dome fits it) I place them into a perma-nest so I can move it
06/19/05 21:07:11 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, they do have a lip/rim sort of edge
06/19/05 21:07:15 Chris_: but you wouild have 3 inches on each end to mess with if you do the 4 1/2 feet
06/19/05 21:07:24 Tony__IL: saw off  a little of the perma nest
06/19/05 21:07:53 Jana_in_Indiana: right!  that's why I said 4 1/2, gives you wiggle room I wish I had
06/19/05 21:08:19 Jana_in_Indiana: with your hands maybe Mr. T!  Not mine, LOL
06/19/05 21:08:27 Tony__IL: 1/4 " each
06/19/05 21:08:28 Chris_: one of my goals is to have more violets at my comfort level. I have a bed knee and getting low isnt fun
06/19/05 21:08:49 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, whats a bed knee, LOL
06/19/05 21:08:56 Jana_in_Indiana: no, I don't want to know!
06/19/05 21:09:09 Chris_: LOL.. another one of my famous typos..
06/19/05 21:09:19 Chris_: BAD BAD
06/19/05 21:09:22 Shellie_CA: I haVE BED KNEES TOO
06/19/05 21:09:24 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry, couldn't resist!
06/19/05 21:09:29 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/19/05 21:09:31 Chris_: LOL
06/19/05 21:09:55 Jana_in_Indiana: I keep my babies on the bottom shelf, they're domed & you don't have to mess with them very often
06/19/05 21:10:22 Chris_: I think we are going to make two shelves, with storage under the bottom one
06/19/05 21:10:58 Jana_in_Indiana: my top 7 foot high shelf is the storage place, put 2 big tubs up there, well I didn't, hubby & son did
06/19/05 21:11:23 Chris_: that would be a high place to reach for sure
06/19/05 21:11:37 Jana_in_Indiana: not me, LOL
06/19/05 21:12:15 Chris_: I will have to post pictures when we get them done and they work LOL
06/19/05 21:12:25 Chris_: if my plants all die, I wont post
06/19/05 21:12:40 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I'll try to get the photo for the game posted tonight, if more *stuff* doesn't cut loose!
06/19/05 21:13:20 sherry__(Mo): I hope it doesn't Jana-you've got more than your share!
06/19/05 21:13:33 Chris_: Jana your plate is full
06/19/05 21:13:54 Chris_: any hear from Millie today?
06/19/05 21:14:04 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Sherry!  'They' say God won't give you more than you can handle....I think he's got too much faith in me!
06/19/05 21:14:13 Jana_in_Indiana: not yet Chris
06/19/05 21:14:31 Chris_: I was telling my dad about Tami, and he said he had heard about that on the national news..
06/19/05 21:14:45 Chris_: I didnt ask what networdk
06/19/05 21:14:48 Chris_: work
06/19/05 21:14:49 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, some of my friends had heard it too
06/19/05 21:14:58 sherry__(Mo): I know Jana-they say these things make you stronger-who wants to be that strong?!!
06/19/05 21:15:24 Chris_: sometimes I hate those sayings
06/19/05 21:15:29 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/19/05 21:15:33 Jana_in_Indiana: stronger?  No, praying in front of the porcelain god didn't make me look very strong!  LOL
06/19/05 21:15:46 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/19/05 21:16:49 Jana_in_Indiana: gonna try some bread & milk after chat, I feel like a prisoner!  :P
06/19/05 21:17:07 sherry__(Mo): Maybe tomorrow will be a better day!
06/19/05 21:17:19 Chris_: oh man,, I am sure you do
06/19/05 21:17:25 Jana_in_Indiana: yah, hope so
06/19/05 21:17:50 Jana_in_Indiana: well, I kept my meds down at 6 pm, so maybe it will work, finally!
06/19/05 21:18:10 Chris_: Jana thats a good thing, maybe the worest is over
06/19/05 21:18:10 Shellie_CA: Milk might not be the best thing on the stomach
06/19/05 21:18:32 Jana_in_Indiana: I was going to pot up babies, but it just seemed too much like work, so I came to chat, LOL!
06/19/05 21:19:05 sherry__(Mo): I've got some yelling at me right now thst they would like a drink!
06/19/05 21:19:08 Chris_: my mouse ears are growing faster then I thought they would
06/19/05 21:19:13 Jana_in_Indiana: milk helps, if I keep it down
06/19/05 21:19:26 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, they can be amazing Chris!
06/19/05 21:19:43 Jana_in_Indiana: bet they don't want milk, Sherry!  LOL
06/19/05 21:19:47 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/19/05 21:20:03 Chris_: the leaves need to be about the size of a dime before you seperate and pot them?
06/19/05 21:20:48 Jana_in_Indiana: wait till you see the photo i post, these are more like quarters & half dollars
06/19/05 21:20:59 sherry__(Mo): You'll lose more if you pot up too soon-let them have a chance to get a better root system
06/19/05 21:21:00 Jana_in_Indiana: for me, the bigger the better
06/19/05 21:21:16 Chris_: that gives you more time to get it done
06/19/05 21:21:29 sherry__(Mo): Same here-but I know what it was like when I first got started!
06/19/05 21:21:55 Chris_: and leave the mama leave just like she is?
06/19/05 21:22:39 sherry__(Mo): She'll send up more babies usually
06/19/05 21:23:12 Chris_: dang, it does teach one patience, best to just keep your hands off
06/19/05 21:23:30 sherry__(Mo): It really is
06/19/05 21:23:32 Jana_in_Indiana: right
06/19/05 21:24:05 Chris_: after you remove the leaf, someone says you can trim it and sit down again?
06/19/05 21:24:31 Jane_CA Logs in [69.4.138.152]
06/19/05 21:24:35 sherry__(Mo): Hi Jane
06/19/05 21:24:37 Chris_: Hi Jamd
06/19/05 21:24:37 Shellie_CA: Hi Jane
06/19/05 21:24:40 Chris_: Jane too
06/19/05 21:24:40 Jana_in_Indiana: do you really want that many more babies of the same variety?
06/19/05 21:24:43 Jane_CA Logs in [69.4.138.152]
06/19/05 21:24:44 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Jane!
06/19/05 21:24:52 Jane_CA: Hi All
06/19/05 21:24:58 Carol_SK: Hi Jane
06/19/05 21:24:59 sherry__(Mo): I don't even trim it, just put it back down as it has roots
06/19/05 21:25:00 Tony__IL: Hi Jane, box in the mail tomorrow
06/19/05 21:25:10 Chris_: I was just thinking if you had a really special leave,, I guess it would depend how many babies you got the first time
06/19/05 21:25:14 Jane_CA: Thanks Tony
06/19/05 21:25:22 Jana_in_Indiana: right C
06/19/05 21:25:25 Chris_: thanks Sherry...
06/19/05 21:26:10 Jana_in_Indiana: my babies usually crowd out momma & kill her, just like human babies would if we let them LOL
06/19/05 21:26:20 sherry__(Mo): But remeber those bainies grow---and take up more room-right Tony? LOL
06/19/05 21:26:21 Chris_: does anyone have that Sancao.. Koko.. or is it Coco.. I know I messed up the first name
06/19/05 21:26:23 Shellie_CA: Well we are sitting down to dinner so I will say good nite
06/19/05 21:26:25 Jane_CA: A friend of mine sent me a glob of leaves and babies and I have not Idea what to do with them!!!
06/19/05 21:26:35 sherry__(Mo): Sauncey Coco-I do
06/19/05 21:26:38 Jane_CA: By Shellie
06/19/05 21:26:49 Jana_in_Indiana: Sansoucy' Coco (7768) 08/10/1992 (P. Sansoucy) Double blue ruffled/variable white-green edge. Variegated medium green, white and cream, plain, quilted. Large
06/19/05 21:26:53 sherry__(Mo): Night Shellie
06/19/05 21:26:54 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Shellie!
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06/19/05 21:27:07 Chris_: LOL.. thanks Jana,, anyone see what those are bring on Ebay?
06/19/05 21:27:18 Jane_CA: A lot!!
06/19/05 21:27:28 Jana_in_Indiana: no, but ebay is always too high
06/19/05 21:27:31 Chris_: OMG... they must be nuts for that one
06/19/05 21:27:34 sherry__(Mo): I haven't looked at Ebay in awhile
06/19/05 21:28:01 Jane_CA: The ones I want go too high, of course
06/19/05 21:28:12 Tony__IL: Jane check out www.rachelsreflections.com
06/19/05 21:28:32 sherry__(Mo): Have you looked to see if any of the vendors have what you want?
06/19/05 21:28:39 Chris_: Ive seen probably around 6 of Coco all go high
06/19/05 21:28:42 Jane_CA: I did Tony, but you should see this glob of leaves and babies...
06/19/05 21:28:48 Jana_in_Indiana: Jane, how did you get delivery on Sunday?
06/19/05 21:29:16 Jane_CA: Oh, this was last week, I put them back in water until I figure this out. She starts in water
06/19/05 21:29:35 Jana_in_Indiana: put the babies in water too?
06/19/05 21:29:43 Jane_CA: Yup
06/19/05 21:29:47 sherry__(Mo): Things are hectic around here right now but if you wait until fall-and remind me! I can send leaves of Sauncy CoCo (I don't have any leaves down on it)
06/19/05 21:30:05 Jane_CA: Oh, that is such a beautiful plant
06/19/05 21:30:08 Jana_in_Indiana: put me on the list too Sherry, please?
06/19/05 21:30:14 Chris_: thanks Sherry that is so sweet
06/19/05 21:30:23 Jana_in_Indiana: Jane, I'm afradi the water will rot the babies
06/19/05 21:30:36 Jana_in_Indiana: afraid*
06/19/05 21:30:37 Jane_CA: Oh, I had better do something soon
06/19/05 21:30:43 Jana_in_Indiana: yes
06/19/05 21:30:49 Jane_CA: Thanks, Jana
06/19/05 21:31:07 Jane_CA: I'm almost afraid to pull them apart!!
06/19/05 21:31:08 sherry__(Mo): Sure will! I'll get an inventory made up.....if the kids ever get moved!
06/19/05 21:31:09 Jana_in_Indiana: get them into soil, check the roots well & remove anything that's black or soft
06/19/05 21:31:15 Chris_: I cant wait til  I have plants big enough to share, I want to give back
06/19/05 21:31:33 Jana_in_Indiana: wiat Jane, are the babies attached to momma leaves?
06/19/05 21:31:38 Jane_CA: Jana, these plants are really small
06/19/05 21:31:59 Jane_CA: Yes, Jana in one blob
06/19/05 21:32:08 Jane_CA: About 5 mother leaves
06/19/05 21:32:22 Chris_: a violet blob.. sounds like an old scary movie
06/19/05 21:32:25 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, if they were started that way...they should be fine
06/19/05 21:32:35 Jane_CA: It looks scary, believe me!!!
06/19/05 21:32:52 Jana_in_Indiana: I've just never had any luck with leaves & babies in water -- someone please jump in here?
06/19/05 21:33:21 sherry__(Mo): Me neither-mine always rot
06/19/05 21:33:33 Jane_CA: My friend has her best luck this way. Her house is FULL of violets. One plant is 18" across....
06/19/05 21:33:44 Chris_: Ive started a few in water years and years ago.. but only have the few Ive got now starting in soil
06/19/05 21:33:52 Jane_CA: Green Thumb, I believe they call it
06/19/05 21:34:00 Carol_SK: I haven't had luck in water either
06/19/05 21:34:16 Jane_CA: I haven't had luck any ole way!!!
06/19/05 21:34:25 Chris_: of course I hadnt paid for a leaf, that makes a difference
06/19/05 21:34:38 Jana_in_Indiana: even if I remove some leaves & want to 'hold' them for a few days in water till I plant them they'll rot, sure as anything!
06/19/05 21:35:00 Jane_CA: Jana were they started in water?
06/19/05 21:35:01 Chris_: also could be the water?
06/19/05 21:35:06 Tony__IL: whhhat does she feed it Jane?
06/19/05 21:35:07 Carol_SK: Oh Jane I am sorry to hear that
06/19/05 21:35:34 sherry__(Mo): Sue puts the leaves in baby food jars when she grooms-and forgets about them and they get babies. What works for one doesn't always work for the next guy-but you'd think it wouldn't be that hard
06/19/05 21:35:47 Jane_CA: Tony she swares by Schultz and the plant is in a self-watering pot, also something she swares by
06/19/05 21:35:55 Jana_in_Indiana: Jane, once you have enough plants get large enough that you can remove leaves -- you can try different ways to see what works best for you!
06/19/05 21:36:12 sherry__(Mo): You'll find away!
06/19/05 21:36:30 Jane_CA: I keep trying!!
06/19/05 21:36:35 Tony__IL: night ladies
06/19/05 21:36:41 Chris_: night Tony
06/19/05 21:36:42 Tony__IL Logs Out
06/19/05 21:36:54 Jana_in_Indiana: and, when using your own leaves, your chances are much better -- you know the leaf is fresh & hasn't been exposed to heat, cold, or anything
06/19/05 21:36:59 Jana_in_Indiana: 'g'nite Tony
06/19/05 21:37:07 sherry__(Mo): Jane, have you tried just damp, corse vermiculite-and I do mean just damp, in a covered container?
06/19/05 21:37:08 Chris_: Jana that is true
06/19/05 21:37:46 Jane_CA: Sherry, I've got some down now in a 3 way soil. Too early to tell
06/19/05 21:38:05 Jane_CA: My goodness, Tony left in a hurry!!
06/19/05 21:38:13 sherry__(Mo): He sure did!
06/19/05 21:38:36 Jana_in_Indiana: the best tip I've learned when potting leaves or plants, is after you water them to settle the soil, let them drain the excess water off -- THEN place on layers of newspapers or paper towels for about 2 hours, it sucks out the excess moisture!
06/19/05 21:38:36 sherry__(Mo): We'll keep our fingers crossed for you Jane!
06/19/05 21:38:47 Chris_: I was shocked at how much moisture the guy at showcase had on his leaves he was starting
06/19/05 21:38:55 Jane_CA: Thanks......Cross your toes too!!
06/19/05 21:39:06 Chris_: big droplets of water in the bag
06/19/05 21:39:13 sherry__(Mo): It works for some people Chris, but mine would probably drown!
06/19/05 21:39:22 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, now you KNOW we're all trying to see if we can even cross our toes! LOL
06/19/05 21:39:37 Chris_: but here in Colorado it is so dry.. wouldnt work where there is more humitity
06/19/05 21:39:45 Jane_CA: Funny thing I have a leaf, just a leaf, no stem in a plastic bag and it has roots!!!
06/19/05 21:40:05 Jane_CA: Send a photo if you cross your toes!!!
06/19/05 21:40:19 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/19/05 21:40:31 Jana_in_Indiana: I had one do that  -- it got broke off & I didn't notice, fell onto the soil in the pot.  Rooted well just laying there!
06/19/05 21:40:44 sherry__(Mo): Good Jane-it will probably get babies if it has roots
06/19/05 21:40:49 Jane_CA: Did it have babies?
06/19/05 21:41:00 Chris_: I did try that root hormone and that was a bust, but these leaves didnt have much stem either, were leaves off a plantlet that was shipped and lost some leaves
06/19/05 21:41:02 Jane_CA: Guess time will tell..
06/19/05 21:41:27 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, you won't like this, but I had so many duplicates of that plant, when I found it I just pitched it :O
06/19/05 21:41:42 Jane_CA: WHAT!!!!
06/19/05 21:41:42 Chris_: OMG  violet abuse!
06/19/05 21:42:16 sherry__(Mo): But we only have so much room! LOL
06/19/05 21:42:18 Jane_CA: And I can't even get a leaf to root!!
06/19/05 21:42:25 Jana_in_Indiana: might as well send the AV police, I'm eating like a prisoner anywway!  LOL
06/19/05 21:42:38 Chris_: the other day,, I broke a leaf off my noid.. and threw it in the trash.. and about 10 min later I felt so bad, I went and dug it out and potted it..
06/19/05 21:42:57 Jane_CA: Oh, now that's more like it.....LOL
06/19/05 21:42:58 Jana_in_Indiana: Jane, do you 'tug' on your leaves to see if there are roots yet?
06/19/05 21:43:20 Jane_CA: I will in a month or so. It has only been a week
06/19/05 21:43:36 Chris_: and last week, I watered the violets at walmart, my husband just rolled his eyes
06/19/05 21:43:49 Jane_CA: Oh, too funny
06/19/05 21:43:54 Chris_: Jane, Jana says.. do not tug
06/19/05 21:44:10 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, good, I'm convinced that some people tug frequently enough that they are basically tearing off the tiny hair roots & keeping them from rooting
06/19/05 21:44:14 Jane_CA: Oh, I won't
06/19/05 21:44:29 Jane_CA: I'm afraid to touch them!!
06/19/05 21:45:05 Jana_in_Indiana: if they are firm & look OK, just assume they have rooted, otherwise they'd go limp & rot
06/19/05 21:45:34 Jane_CA: That's what I would think
06/19/05 21:45:34 Chris_: if it ain't broke dont tug it
06/19/05 21:45:48 Jana_in_Indiana: ;)
06/19/05 21:46:19 sherry__(Mo): I've got a bad headache so going to call it a night
06/19/05 21:46:27 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Sherry!
06/19/05 21:46:29 Chris_: night Sherry
06/19/05 21:46:34 Chris_: get better
06/19/05 21:46:36 sherry__(Mo): See ya Tuesday eveninG!!
06/19/05 21:46:37 Jane_CA: Bye Sherry, hope you feel better
06/19/05 21:46:40 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out
06/19/05 21:46:49 Jane_CA: I hate headaches
06/19/05 21:46:55 Jana_in_Indiana: I need to go too, have dishes to wash, AV's to pot, but...think I'll lay down a bit
06/19/05 21:47:08 Chris_: so Jana.. how many do you need in Bingo ???
06/19/05 21:47:09 Jane_CA: DISHES!!!
06/19/05 21:47:18 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Carol, Chris & Jane
06/19/05 21:47:21 Jana_in_Indiana: I need 2
06/19/05 21:47:23 Jane_CA: Kite
06/19/05 21:47:24 Chris_: night Jana..
06/19/05 21:47:28 Jane_CA: Nite
06/19/05 21:47:29 Carol_SK: nite
06/19/05 21:47:30 Chris_: hope you get ONE tomorrow
06/19/05 21:47:33 Jana_in_Indiana: it'll never happen, so don't worry!  LOL!
06/19/05 21:47:37 Chris_: lOL
06/19/05 21:47:52 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite ladies!
06/19/05 21:47:53 Chris_: guess I will go put my dogs to bed, you all have a nice evening
06/19/05 21:47:56 Chris_: night
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