06/16/05 03:30:04 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.159.69.113]
06/16/05 03:30:31 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry, just testing!
06/16/05 03:30:33 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out
06/16/05 05:59:59 Cheryl-TX Disconnects
06/16/05 19:50:09 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
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06/16/05 19:53:54 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
06/16/05 19:54:13 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.160.190.93]
06/16/05 19:54:23 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tony!
06/16/05 19:54:25 Tony__IL: beat ya tonite
06/16/05 19:54:42 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL!  Yup, had lots to do on the groups!
06/16/05 19:54:50 Jana_in_Indiana: still not done, LOL!
06/16/05 19:55:29 Tony__IL: Hey, ever used the tree bark they use in orchids instead of perlite in the bottom of a pot?
06/16/05 19:55:36 Jana_in_Indiana: no
06/16/05 19:55:44 Jana_in_Indiana: you gonna give it a try?
06/16/05 19:56:17 Jana_in_Indiana: but I did find 2 places in town with COARSE perlite!  YEA!
06/16/05 19:56:25 Tony__IL: might as well. Have a whole bag of it and if it works for orchids, why not AVs?
06/16/05 19:56:56 Tony__IL: wish I could find 1 place in 2 counties. LOL
06/16/05 19:57:29 Jana_in_Indiana: cool!  I'd try it on a few at first, might want to keep an eye on the pH
06/16/05 19:57:30 Carol_SK Logs in [142.165.180.32]
06/16/05 19:57:34 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Carol!
06/16/05 19:57:42 Carol_SK: Hi Jana\
06/16/05 19:57:48 Carol_SK: Hi Tony
06/16/05 19:58:10 Jana_in_Indiana: where'd you get a whole bag of it T?
06/16/05 19:58:17 Tony__IL: also will ship Jane in Calif. some leaves next week. Maybe toss in a couple of these babies I have going
06/16/05 19:58:31 Jana_in_Indiana: she'll love it!
06/16/05 19:58:44 Tony__IL: Had the bark from trying to grow orchids a couple years ago
06/16/05 19:58:52 Jana_in_Indiana: Carol how was the wedding -- and did you crash & burn after?
06/16/05 19:58:55 Tony__IL: Hi Carol
06/16/05 19:59:00 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, ok
06/16/05 19:59:14 Carol_SK: Laffin, it was fine
06/16/05 19:59:21 Jana_in_Indiana: didn't know you tried orchids
06/16/05 20:00:05 Tony__IL: they only bloom once a year and may take 5 years to bloom the first time. And you thought AV's were bad. LOL
06/16/05 20:00:24 Carol_SK: talk about patience
06/16/05 20:00:35 Jana_in_Indiana: I knew about the 5 years part, honestly --they've never been something I liked
06/16/05 20:01:09 Tony__IL: they are gorgeous, but I don't have the time for them.
06/16/05 20:01:40 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
06/16/05 20:01:49 Tony__IL: hi ya Clare
06/16/05 20:01:50 Jana_in_Indiana: I don't even like them in a corsage
06/16/05 20:01:55 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Clare!
06/16/05 20:01:56 Clare_KS: Hi all
06/16/05 20:01:58 Carol_SK: Hi Clare
06/16/05 20:02:45 Tony__IL: Carol, been seeing a lot of leaves for sale on eBay from Canada
06/16/05 20:02:48 Charlene_in_OK Logs in [68.12.244.136]
06/16/05 20:02:54 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Charlene!
06/16/05 20:02:55 Tony__IL: hi Charlene
06/16/05 20:03:02 Carol_SK: really Tony?  that is a good sign for sure
06/16/05 20:03:14 Charlene_in_OK: Hi Everyone :)
06/16/05 20:03:42 Tony__IL: not sure where she lives, but close enough she can also ship to the USA
06/16/05 20:03:52 Clare_KS Logs Out
06/16/05 20:04:09 Carol_SK: so she has the best of both worlds... lol
06/16/05 20:04:32 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
06/16/05 20:04:38 Clare_KS: aarrggg
06/16/05 20:04:48 Jana_in_Indiana: WB Clare!
06/16/05 20:05:04 Tony__IL: don't do that again Clare. LOL
06/16/05 20:05:50 Clare_KS: I'm used to mIRC, which doesn't shut if you open a window.
06/16/05 20:06:25 Tony__IL: if you have to have the immegration sticker on the box, can you just take them over the border and mail them?
06/16/05 20:08:29 Tony__IL: gee, I think the guy with the Harley finally left the neighborhood. Quiet again now
06/16/05 20:08:56 Chris_In_Colorado Logs in [172.199.157.12]
06/16/05 20:09:02 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Chris!
06/16/05 20:09:04 Tony__IL: hi Chris
06/16/05 20:09:10 Chris_In_Colorado: good evening
06/16/05 20:09:25 Clare_KS: Well, I found SuperThrive today!!
06/16/05 20:09:39 Tony__IL: where as it?
06/16/05 20:09:40 Jana_in_Indiana: wonderful!
06/16/05 20:09:41 Chris_In_Colorado: Clare its good stuff
06/16/05 20:09:52 Clare_KS: a family-run nursery...
06/16/05 20:09:58 Clare_KS: I should have just gone there first.
06/16/05 20:10:01 Chris_In_Colorado: I got mine at home depot
06/16/05 20:10:11 Clare_KS: When I was looking for Gel2Root, I called them, they didn't have it.
06/16/05 20:10:17 Clare_KS: Today they have it in stock!
06/16/05 20:10:23 Clare_KS: They listen to their customers.
06/16/05 20:10:24 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL!
06/16/05 20:11:01 Chris_In_Colorado: because its a family store and didnt take the approval of 10 people
06/16/05 20:11:40 Jana_in_Indiana: great!
06/16/05 20:11:45 Chris_In_Colorado: I was out pulling weeds, did I miss the discussion on watering?
06/16/05 20:11:57 paula0103 Logs in [12.223.201.243]
06/16/05 20:12:03 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Paula!
06/16/05 20:12:07 Tony__IL: no, Chris, right on time
06/16/05 20:12:11 Jana_in_Indiana: no chris, not yet begun
06/16/05 20:12:13 Chris_In_Colorado: oh good
06/16/05 20:12:15 Tony__IL: hi Paula
06/16/05 20:12:22 paula0103: Hi everyone!
06/16/05 20:12:35 paula0103: I'm having computer troubles so I may be in and out.
06/16/05 20:12:40 Chris_In_Colorado: Ive about decided I have to go to wick watering
06/16/05 20:13:11 Tony__IL: too many plants or what Chris
06/16/05 20:13:34 Chris_In_Colorado: I just had two before so it wasnt a problem
06/16/05 20:13:57 Jana_in_Indiana: wicking is great -- if you can keep the wicks from drying out!
06/16/05 20:14:26 Clare_KS: why do they dry out? Do you forget to add water to the reservoir?
06/16/05 20:14:40 Chris_In_Colorado: another question I have is on humitity, I have been monitering it .. does it always have a lot of up and downs all day?
06/16/05 20:14:48 Jana_in_Indiana: no, they dired out between the pot & water!  Drove me nuts!
06/16/05 20:14:53 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.132.146.214]
06/16/05 20:15:03 paula0103: I have gotten about 20 new av's this week and several of them came with wicks.  I've never used them before.
06/16/05 20:15:06 Chris_In_Colorado: Jana I hadnt ever thought of that
06/16/05 20:15:07 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sherry, all squeaky clean?  LOL
06/16/05 20:15:08 Tony__IL: hi Sherry
06/16/05 20:15:16 sherry__(Mo): Hi everyone!!
06/16/05 20:16:07 Tony__IL: well, J, guess that's yoooour queue to start the topic
06/16/05 20:16:23 Jana_in_Indiana: I even tried keeping the water level up almost touching the eggcrate, still dried out -- not all of them, only a few & I didn't know it until the began to go limp
06/16/05 20:16:49 Jana_in_Indiana: ok T!  The Boss Rooster!  LOL
06/16/05 20:16:55 Clare_KS: Jana, are they the same yarn as the others?
06/16/05 20:17:01 Chris_In_Colorado: are you ready for questions, because what jana just said made me think of one LOL
06/16/05 20:17:14 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, & switched to any & all types & sizes of wicks
06/16/05 20:17:21 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/16/05 20:17:56 Tony__IL: I'm just the back-up Rooster on this one.
06/16/05 20:18:05 Jana_in_Indiana: :P
06/16/05 20:18:12 Chris_In_Colorado: when you wick, should the surface of the soil feel moist, like it does when you bottom or top water?
06/16/05 20:18:19 Jana_in_Indiana: yup
06/16/05 20:18:24 Chris_In_Colorado: okay thank you
06/16/05 20:18:39 Jana_in_Indiana: or at least about 1/4 inch into the soil should be moist
06/16/05 20:18:45 Chris_In_Colorado: Im always sticking my finger in some plants soil lOL
06/16/05 20:19:13 Jana_in_Indiana: be careful you don't pack it down
06/16/05 20:19:16 Tony__IL: or the pot should feel lighter
06/16/05 20:19:25 Chris_In_Colorado: okay
06/16/05 20:19:39 Chris_In_Colorado: I do that.. lift the pots to see if they feel light
06/16/05 20:19:59 sherry__(Mo): That's what I do too
06/16/05 20:20:25 paula0103 Logs Out
06/16/05 20:20:54 Tony__IL: do you all use trays for your plants or single containers of water?
06/16/05 20:20:58 Chris_In_Colorado: where can I get trays, are there some that you dont have to order from a violet supply place, I thought of looking at walmart etc, my husband can cut the egg crate
06/16/05 20:21:34 Jana_in_Indiana: I use both Mr. T
06/16/05 20:21:53 sherry__(Mo): Same here
06/16/05 20:21:55 Clare_KS: I use trays on one shelf, self-watering pots on another.
06/16/05 20:22:03 Jana_in_Indiana: biggin's get individual
06/16/05 20:22:11 sherry__(Mo): Yep!
06/16/05 20:22:18 Tony__IL: Also have both the black and the heavier PernaNest? Is that right name J?
06/16/05 20:22:53 Jana_in_Indiana: the absolute MOST important thing whether mat, wick  or Texas Style watering is to have your soil light enough -- by adding perlite
06/16/05 20:23:19 Jana_in_Indiana: now only use the perma-nest, got a dozen more from Cape Cod
06/16/05 20:23:28 sherry__(Mo): Amen!!  lol
06/16/05 20:23:48 Chris_In_Colorado: how can you tell if its light enough?
06/16/05 20:24:19 Jana_in_Indiana: it really isn't the wick size that determines how moist your soil is (it's been proven scientifically!), it's the soil!  If soil is too moist, add more perlite
06/16/05 20:24:40 Jana_in_Indiana: I know many people will never believe that, but...
06/16/05 20:24:59 Chris_In_Colorado: I was just trying to figure that out LOL
06/16/05 20:25:14 sherry__(Mo): I've read that too Jana
06/16/05 20:25:17 Jana_in_Indiana: well, within reason!  Don't use a braided cord that's 2 inches in diameter!  lOL
06/16/05 20:25:39 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, tell them how to test
06/16/05 20:26:12 Jana_in_Indiana: you tell if it's light enough by checking the moisture, if it's wet, you need more perlite
06/16/05 20:26:20 Jana_in_Indiana: the soil that is
06/16/05 20:26:36 Carol_SK Logs Out
06/16/05 20:26:47 Tony__IL: put the wick in the pot, add soil mix, and water. NO PLANT! that way you won't be killing or risking anything.
06/16/05 20:27:20 Tony__IL: after a few days you'll know if you are on target or not. Adjust as needed.
06/16/05 20:27:20 Chris_In_Colorado: why didnt I think of that?
06/16/05 20:27:38 Jana_in_Indiana: as a general rule, hand watered soil (top or bottom) is heavier than wicking soil.
06/16/05 20:27:38 Chris_In_Colorado: Im sitting here saying well duh
06/16/05 20:28:04 Jana_in_Indiana: wicking & mating soil is the same for me
06/16/05 20:28:07 Chris_In_Colorado: when you start, the test soil is dry right
06/16/05 20:28:13 Jana_in_Indiana: Texas Style is the lightest
06/16/05 20:28:19 Jana_in_Indiana: no
06/16/05 20:28:21 Chris_In_Colorado: and you wait and see if the wick wets it?
06/16/05 20:28:27 Tony__IL: wicking is watering 24x7 where hand watering is 1-2 times a week
06/16/05 20:28:42 Jana_in_Indiana: when wick or mat or TS you need to top water the 1st time to get the wicking started
06/16/05 20:28:47 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
06/16/05 20:29:06 Jana_in_Indiana: also the wicks & mats must be pre wetted to work
06/16/05 20:29:08 Chris_In_Colorado: okay, that would have been mistake number one
06/16/05 20:29:20 Chris_In_Colorado: number two
06/16/05 20:29:24 Tony__IL: I just use a wet wick and damp soil when I repot, so it all is working
06/16/05 20:29:41 Jana_in_Indiana: right
06/16/05 20:30:05 Chris_In_Colorado: sure glad I came to this chat tonight..
06/16/05 20:30:36 Chris_In_Colorado: how about how you put your wicks in.. how long , etc
06/16/05 20:30:37 Jana_in_Indiana: I've heard pros & cons about occasionally letting them dry out when mat, wick or TS - personally I don't do it
06/16/05 20:30:56 Clare_KS: I think it stresses plants too much.
06/16/05 20:31:04 Shellie_CA Logs in [172.198.42.250]
06/16/05 20:31:09 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Shellie!
06/16/05 20:31:21 Tony__IL: hi Shellie
06/16/05 20:31:24 Chris_In_Colorado: silly question Im sure, but what is the difference between mat and Texas style
06/16/05 20:31:28 Shellie_CA: hi all
06/16/05 20:31:31 Jana_in_Indiana: also, if they are in the rainforest/jungle in nature, how & when do they dry out??????
06/16/05 20:31:37 sherry__(Mo): Hi Shellie
06/16/05 20:32:06 Jana_in_Indiana: Texas Style is cups sitting in water, mat is pots sitting on a wet mat
06/16/05 20:33:06 Jana_in_Indiana: TS has holes on the sides of the cups/pots, mat had holes in the bottom only
06/16/05 20:33:32 Jana_in_Indiana: any more Q's?
06/16/05 20:33:34 Chris_In_Colorado: oh okay, now i remember you all talking about how far up the holes go
06/16/05 20:33:41 Jana_in_Indiana: right!
06/16/05 20:33:51 Tony__IL: TX has a lot of perlite in the bottom of the pot and is more a method of how to pot them. Wicks and mats are more a method how to water
06/16/05 20:34:11 Jana_in_Indiana: right
06/16/05 20:34:25 Chris_In_Colorado: so for most little plantlets they would get one wick, a bigger plant would get more?
06/16/05 20:35:05 Jana_in_Indiana: mat watering doesn't need a wick
06/16/05 20:35:16 Chris_In_Colorado: oh okay
06/16/05 20:35:24 Jana_in_Indiana: I only have 1 wick even in the really big ones
06/16/05 20:35:36 Chris_In_Colorado: hmmm
06/16/05 20:35:38 Tony__IL: I do that but someone said it doesn't make any diff as the soil pulls up the moisture it needs. Sounds like experiment time again.
06/16/05 20:35:52 Jana_in_Indiana: the wick will only draw up as much water as the soil can absorb
06/16/05 20:36:09 Chris_In_Colorado: the guy at v showcase said he uses more, but he also sold me the little wick
06/16/05 20:36:22 Tony__IL: that's what Chat said also, J
06/16/05 20:36:25 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, sells more that way! ;)
06/16/05 20:36:34 Chris_In_Colorado: and I bought it LOL
06/16/05 20:36:54 sherry__(Mo): I wick the ones I mat. If you don't, make sure there is good contact with the bottom of your pot and the matting material
06/16/05 20:37:11 Tony__IL: buy the cheap yard at WallyMart and spend the rest on leavs and plants
06/16/05 20:37:18 Chris_In_Colorado: if your pot has little legs I could see it being a problem
06/16/05 20:37:22 Tony__IL: yarn*
06/16/05 20:38:07 Jana_in_Indiana: you can always use 2 or even 3 layers of acrylic blankets as mats, to give a cushion for the rims or legs to go into
06/16/05 20:38:41 Chris_In_Colorado: He (guy at v Showcase) said.. he likes the wick best, but in the store the mat works better because people are picking up and moving plants and you dont have to keep putting the wick back where it belongs
06/16/05 20:39:01 Jana_in_Indiana: works the same way at home!  LOL
06/16/05 20:39:37 Chris_In_Colorado: so with the mat watering the trays are set up about the same, but in matting you add the "mat"
06/16/05 20:39:47 Jana_in_Indiana: speaking of wicks & putting them back -- get some sinkers from the fishing dept & pinch on the ends of the wicks, then it's much easier to get them into the holes!
06/16/05 20:40:04 Tony__IL: I think I'll start putting 4 labels on the pot. That way I won't have to pick them up and turn to figure out what's in it
06/16/05 20:40:15 Chris_In_Colorado: omg, my husband has a whole bunch of those,, well he DID have, now they are MINE
06/16/05 20:40:25 Jana_in_Indiana: I use elevated mats, the mat is placed on top of the egg crate so the tray can be filled to the top w/ water
06/16/05 20:40:33 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL Tony!
06/16/05 20:41:19 Chris_In_Colorado: so with matting the egg crate has a gap on the ends for the mat to hang over..into the tray
06/16/05 20:41:23 Jana_in_Indiana: with the elevated mats, the egg crate is help up about 2 inches off the bottom of the tray, with small clay pots inverted, leggos, whatever works
06/16/05 20:42:03 sherry__(Mo): I started using cut pvc pipe
06/16/05 20:42:04 Jana_in_Indiana: when mat watering, the mats don't have to be elevated, but I prefer to water once every two weeks!  LOL
06/16/05 20:42:21 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/16/05 20:42:46 Chris_In_Colorado: makes sense to me Jana, and would bring your humitity up too, not that everyone has that problem
06/16/05 20:42:54 Jana_in_Indiana: this elevated mat watering was 'sold' to me by Sherry!  & I'm darned glad she did!
06/16/05 20:43:11 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, it's even better for humidity than wicking
06/16/05 20:43:15 Chris_In_Colorado: speaking of humitity, what % is best?
06/16/05 20:43:15 Clare_KS: How is it different from wicking?
06/16/05 20:43:20 sherry__(Mo): But I gort the idea from other people-sure saves time!!
06/16/05 20:43:29 Clare_KS: I know how to do it, I mean how do your results differ?
06/16/05 20:43:42 Jana_in_Indiana: look at a blanket under a microscope, it has much more surface area than flat water surface
06/16/05 20:44:21 Jana_in_Indiana: results are the same provided you find a consistent way to supply water
06/16/05 20:44:21 Chris_In_Colorado: oh man I just bought 8 yards of wick LOL
06/16/05 20:44:27 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
06/16/05 20:45:11 Chris_In_Colorado: so where do you get your matting,, you said blankets?
06/16/05 20:45:13 Tony__IL: I got some Solo cups on sale at a really good price if you need them Chris
06/16/05 20:45:37 Jana_in_Indiana: it's usually a matter of convenience & time -- that decides how you will water
06/16/05 20:45:41 Chris_In_Colorado: LOL I might... I cant find them here
06/16/05 20:45:54 Jana_in_Indiana: cheap acrylic blankets from Wal-Mart
06/16/05 20:46:01 sherry__(Mo): You can get acrylic blankets at K Mart or Walmart for 5 and that makes a lot of mats
06/16/05 20:46:17 Jana_in_Indiana: mine were 3.96!
06/16/05 20:46:19 Chris_In_Colorado: and you use several layers
06/16/05 20:46:33 Chris_In_Colorado: can get them in all kind of pretty colors
06/16/05 20:46:34 Jana_in_Indiana: depends on how flat the bottom of the pot is
06/16/05 20:46:42 Tony__IL: I got some matting from a vendor and also used acrylic blanket and I can't tell the diff, other the flowers on the blanket LOL
06/16/05 20:46:44 Jana_in_Indiana: don't get white!
06/16/05 20:46:53 Jana_in_Indiana: it'll always look dirty, LOL
06/16/05 20:46:58 sherry__(Mo): If we aren't spending all our time watering, it gives us more time for grooming, transplanting, what ever
06/16/05 20:47:12 Chris_In_Colorado: shopping for violets on line..
06/16/05 20:47:23 Charlene_in_OK: What keeps the mats from getting nasty, algea etc?
06/16/05 20:47:24 sherry__(Mo): And the matting from the vendoers cost more
06/16/05 20:47:27 Jana_in_Indiana: yah right Sherry!  I've had a tray of babies sitting here for 3 days waiting on me, LOL!
06/16/05 20:47:35 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/16/05 20:47:36 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, they do Charlene!
06/16/05 20:47:42 Jana_in_Indiana: Physan 20 helps
06/16/05 20:47:52 sherry__(Mo): I use Physan 20 -LOL
06/16/05 20:48:01 Jana_in_Indiana: but you'll still have to clean them like you do the trays, every so often
06/16/05 20:48:10 Charlene_in_OK: How do you use Physon for that?
06/16/05 20:48:15 Chris_In_Colorado: you can throw them in the wash I would think?
06/16/05 20:48:34 sherry__(Mo): I add it to my water, fertilizer jug
06/16/05 20:48:42 Jana_in_Indiana: rinse themoutside first, perlite, vermic, etc. not good for washer or pipes
06/16/05 20:49:00 Chris_In_Colorado: good advice
06/16/05 20:49:04 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, add Physan to your water to prevent algae, mold, etc
06/16/05 20:49:19 Charlene_in_OK: ok
06/16/05 20:49:27 Chris_In_Colorado: is that the same stuff that goes in hot tubs etc?
06/16/05 20:49:37 Jana_in_Indiana: unless you are wanting hubby to get you a new washer, in that case, add all the soil you want! ;)
06/16/05 20:49:50 Tony__IL: I washed mats in the waher and added a little bleach. Works great
06/16/05 20:50:08 Jana_in_Indiana: I know Physan 20 is used in swimming pools, not sure about hot tubs
06/16/05 20:50:17 Tony__IL: Just shake out the vermic and perlite before washing them.
06/16/05 20:50:23 Charlene_in_OK: Once their washed, I guess you need them wet so you don't dry them?
06/16/05 20:50:48 Tony__IL: no, I just put them back in the trays.
06/16/05 20:50:49 Chris_In_Colorado: maybe leave out the downy too huh? just kidding
06/16/05 20:50:49 Jana_in_Indiana: I dry them cause they get stored, always have others waiting to be used
06/16/05 20:51:14 Jana_in_Indiana: right, don't use downy, softener sheets -- any of those will not be good
06/16/05 20:51:28 Charlene_in_OK: Can you clean the commercial matting too, that is what i ordered from Cape Cod
06/16/05 20:51:29 Jana_in_Indiana: & AV's don't have static cling!
06/16/05 20:51:35 Chris_In_Colorado: LOL
06/16/05 20:51:46 Tony__IL: As much as Physan foams up in the gallon jugs, I'd hat to put into the hot tub. Be a bubble bath. LOL
06/16/05 20:51:58 Charlene_in_OK: lol
06/16/05 20:52:00 Jana_in_Indiana: there are lots of different commercial mats, some are fairly sturdy, some aren;t
06/16/05 20:52:04 Chris_In_Colorado: muttering to self: now I have to do laundry for the violets too.. not bad enough I have to wash dog bedding
06/16/05 20:52:13 sherry__(Mo): Yes Charlene-that's where I got mine before I started using blankets
06/16/05 20:52:26 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, yah!  Right Tony!  Always add the physan after you fill the jug!
06/16/05 20:52:28 sherry__(Mo): LOL-Chris
06/16/05 20:52:53 Charlene_in_OK: And you could wash them Sherrie?
06/16/05 20:53:13 Charlene_in_OK: woops, sherry
06/16/05 20:53:29 sherry__(Mo): If they are still using the same stuff-mine wash up fine
06/16/05 20:54:07 Charlene_in_OK: I will definitly go for the blankets when I need new material.
06/16/05 20:54:13 Tony__IL: if you took a piece of the matting to a fabric store, they could probably come up with a close match, bu the blanket works fine for me
06/16/05 20:54:24 sherry__(Mo): I agree Tony
06/16/05 20:54:29 Jana_in_Indiana: I have only 2 commercial mats, gifts -- the top is a satiny nylon piece, the bottom looks like felt, they're sewn together & look sturdy enough to put in washer
06/16/05 20:54:46 Tony__IL: maybe something like quilt backing?
06/16/05 20:55:31 Jana_in_Indiana: not really & they aren't actually sewn, it's heat fused, melted together
06/16/05 20:55:32 Tony__IL: mine look like a blanket
06/16/05 20:55:43 sherry__(Mo): I did get something from someplace-and can't remeber where, and it didn't hold up as well as the blankets
06/16/05 20:55:49 Jana_in_Indiana: it doesn't have 2 layers Mr. T?
06/16/05 20:56:09 Tony__IL: no, just 1 layer J
06/16/05 20:56:32 sherry__(Mo): Was it white or grey Tony?
06/16/05 20:56:45 Tony__IL: white, Sherry
06/16/05 20:56:46 Jana_in_Indiana: I saw some 1 time, looked like dryer lint on bottom with plastic w/ holes on top, really cheap & useless looking
06/16/05 20:57:14 Tony__IL: I can sell you some of that too
06/16/05 20:57:20 Jana_in_Indiana: no thanks!
06/16/05 20:57:25 Charlene_in_OK: I have one more question that we covered in last nights chat, is it ok to change the subject a little bit?
06/16/05 20:57:41 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I guess so
06/16/05 20:57:45 Jana_in_Indiana: :P
06/16/05 20:58:24 Tony__IL: yes, it's after 9PM
06/16/05 20:58:32 Charlene_in_OK: When starting leaves in pots like Cheryl was talking about last night, can you use a real light soiless mix instead of straight perlite
06/16/05 20:58:33 Jana_in_Indiana: not quite!
06/16/05 20:58:34 sherry__(Mo): LOl
06/16/05 20:58:55 Jana_in_Indiana: use whatever the heck works for you!
06/16/05 20:59:01 Charlene_in_OK: Where she puts them into a pan of an inch of water
06/16/05 20:59:10 Tony__IL: yes it is. 9:01
06/16/05 20:59:22 Clare_KS: Charlene, that's vermiculite that she uses.
06/16/05 20:59:23 Jana_in_Indiana: I use my regular soil, some use 1:1:1, some use 50/50 perlite vermic
06/16/05 20:59:36 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/16/05 20:59:38 Clare_KS: I put down a pan of them like that today to see how it works for me.
06/16/05 20:59:39 Tony__IL: I use regular soil mix for everything
06/16/05 20:59:41 Charlene_in_OK: But sitting in a inch of water at all times?
06/16/05 20:59:47 Jana_in_Indiana: nope, still 8:59
06/16/05 20:59:54 Clare_KS: Yes, Charlene
06/16/05 20:59:55 Jana_in_Indiana: I clicked the clock!  LOL
06/16/05 21:00:03 Charlene_in_OK: OK thanks
06/16/05 21:00:13 Chris_In_Colorado: the noid I have that has mouse ears  I used regular potting av soil with perlite, about half and half
06/16/05 21:00:18 Tony__IL: your PC is screwed up, check www.time.gov
06/16/05 21:00:32 Chris_In_Colorado: hey the gov is always off
06/16/05 21:00:35 Jana_in_Indiana: I would think the inch of water would depend on your humidity, here it would rot everything, been there done that!
06/16/05 21:00:45 Tony__IL: what can I say?
06/16/05 21:00:45 Clare_KS: I used a NOID, it had about 6 plants in one pot, I separated and a lot of the leaves came off, so I put those down.
06/16/05 21:01:20 Tony__IL: Just so the leaves don't start floating aroung on the water. LOL
06/16/05 21:01:23 Charlene_in_OK: I am going to try it on some without a dome, see how it looks after the weekend.
06/16/05 21:01:25 Shellie_CA: I hope that time in not off - they should be using a cesium clock
06/16/05 21:01:43 Clare_KS: It is 9:01
06/16/05 21:01:47 Jana_in_Indiana: niods are wonderful!  They make it so we don't have to experiment on our more precious AV's
06/16/05 21:02:10 Tony__IL: probably and old Timex. Takes a licking and keeps on ticking.
06/16/05 21:02:10 Chris_In_Colorado: my noid leave has 5 mouse ears
06/16/05 21:02:17 Charlene_in_OK: I also tried some noid leaves in straight sugar water today... we will see
06/16/05 21:02:24 Jana_in_Indiana: great Chris!
06/16/05 21:02:37 Chris_In_Colorado: so are those 5 plants?
06/16/05 21:02:54 Jana_in_Indiana: maybe, maybe not, time will tell
06/16/05 21:02:59 Chris_In_Colorado: oh okay
06/16/05 21:03:07 Jana_in_Indiana: I'd guess at least 2
06/16/05 21:03:08 Tony__IL: try something new every chance you get and you'll eventually be new and improved.
06/16/05 21:03:24 Chris_In_Colorado: of course if I PAID for a leave I wouldnt get that many
06/16/05 21:03:25 Clare_KS: Charlene, how much sugar to how much water?
06/16/05 21:03:28 Jana_in_Indiana: but only try it on a few, in case it doesn't work!
06/16/05 21:03:46 Charlene_in_OK: I put 1/4 tsp. to a cup of water
06/16/05 21:03:55 Jana_in_Indiana: don't ever change everything at once!
06/16/05 21:04:02 Shellie_CA: it is 7:03 here in CA
06/16/05 21:04:07 Tony__IL: Right Jana!
06/16/05 21:04:08 Jana_in_Indiana: Sorry Tony, BRB
06/16/05 21:04:27 sherry__(Mo): And don't run out and buy everything that you hear about!!
06/16/05 21:04:54 Charlene_in_OK: Wooo now wait a minute I thought that was exactly what we were suppose to do Sherry
06/16/05 21:04:58 Tony__IL: Amen to that also, Sherry
06/16/05 21:05:18 Charlene_in_OK: Now i have really screwed up, I have ordered everything you guys talk about LOL
06/16/05 21:05:20 Tony__IL: What? Charlene
06/16/05 21:05:28 sherry__(Mo): I heard about a "miracle" fertilizer that every one that was fantastic-LOL
06/16/05 21:05:42 Chris_In_Colorado: it stands to reason that what works in the South , might not work as well here in Colorado
06/16/05 21:05:53 Charlene_in_OK: LOL
06/16/05 21:05:53 sherry__(Mo): I wouldn't take it now if it was given to me
06/16/05 21:06:36 Tony__IL: does it start with a E ?
06/16/05 21:06:42 Charlene_in_OK: I'm really still trying to talk Doug into the "TACKY" light shelves LOL
06/16/05 21:06:44 Chris_In_Colorado: I was looking at the Miracle Grow av food, the numbers are 777
06/16/05 21:06:44 sherry__(Mo): LOL-Yep!
06/16/05 21:07:17 sherry__(Mo): Did you ever use it Tony?
06/16/05 21:08:05 Tony__IL: good article on fertilizers in the AVM a couple months ago. Guy concluded just go for the #'s and not the brand. Buy the lower priced one.
06/16/05 21:08:30 Tony__IL: Yes, Sherry, but wasn't impressed with it.
06/16/05 21:08:32 Chris_In_Colorado: he is probably right,,
06/16/05 21:08:32 sherry__(Mo): They have really good articles
06/16/05 21:08:49 Chris_In_Colorado: 777 seems low to me
06/16/05 21:08:59 Clare_KS: Tony, what numbers do we need?
06/16/05 21:09:10 sherry__(Mo): Tony, one day I realized my plants didn't have a good green anymore-it took awhile to get them beck on track
06/16/05 21:09:55 Tony__IL: whatever you like and works for you. I have some that is 5-7-6 and some 10-18-10 Have tried both and can't see a lot of diff
06/16/05 21:10:36 Tony__IL: try a 10-10-10 and see what happens after a month
06/16/05 21:11:13 Chris_In_Colorado: gosh there is a peters that is 10-50-10
06/16/05 21:11:17 Tony__IL: some use a really high middle # like 30 or above when growing to show
06/16/05 21:11:55 Tony__IL: that ought to promote some blooms, Chris
06/16/05 21:12:10 Chris_In_Colorado: This Schultz is 8-14-9
06/16/05 21:12:32 Clare_KS: What brands do you all use?
06/16/05 21:12:45 Tony__IL: give it a try and the plants should tell you if you are OK or not
06/16/05 21:12:57 Clare_KS: Is it useful to switch brands every, say, month?
06/16/05 21:13:14 sherry__(Mo): I use different ones Clare-
06/16/05 21:13:23 Chris_In_Colorado: it says the peters is  good for variegated as it doent have as much nitrogen
06/16/05 21:14:02 Clare_KS: Chris,what site are you on?
06/16/05 21:14:10 Chris_In_Colorado: of course I am the one who bought 8 yards of wick too
06/16/05 21:14:17 Tony__IL: also light and temp on the variegated ones makes a diff
06/16/05 21:14:22 Chris_In_Colorado: this is out of my Showcase cataloge
06/16/05 21:14:48 Tony__IL: that's OK Chris. I got 4 cu Ft of vermic
06/16/05 21:14:54 Jana_in_Indiana > Tony__IL: sorry, I'm talking to Millie, be back as soon as I get off the phone
06/16/05 21:15:15 Chris_In_Colorado: they say they use the peters 12-36- 14 ,pst;u
06/16/05 21:15:21 Tony__IL > Jana_in_Indiana: no problem. Hope all is well. Give here my regards
06/16/05 21:15:25 Shellie_CA: I have been using Volkmanns fertilizer for over a year on my plants and, Green Light bloom boost for the show plants - Millie recommended it to me
06/16/05 21:16:06 Chris_In_Colorado: Tony ya interested in some wick? LOL
06/16/05 21:16:23 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/16/05 21:16:27 Tony__IL: no thanks, I just yarn from Wally Mart
06/16/05 21:16:28 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I'm bakc, sorry for running off!
06/16/05 21:16:44 Clare_KS: Jana, any word from Millie today?
06/16/05 21:17:06 Tony__IL: J, what do you use for fertilizer. (new topic)
06/16/05 21:17:22 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, I was just talking to her
06/16/05 21:17:28 sherry__(Mo): and??
06/16/05 21:17:38 Jana_in_Indiana: fertilizer?  Just about anything & everything, LOL
06/16/05 21:18:07 sherry__(Mo): I've only had a problem with the one fertilizer
06/16/05 21:18:10 Tony__IL: how long do you use it before you can see a change?
06/16/05 21:18:16 Jana_in_Indiana: the pressure in Tami's brain is a tiny bit better, had been running aobut 25 - 40, now is 20-30
06/16/05 21:18:30 Clare_KS: that's good news
06/16/05 21:18:37 Chris_In_Colorado: thats going in the right direction
06/16/05 21:18:54 Jana_in_Indiana: actually at this point, the absence of bad news, IS good news!
06/16/05 21:19:04 Chris_In_Colorado: yes it is Jana
06/16/05 21:19:05 sherry__(Mo): How true!
06/16/05 21:19:07 Tony__IL: right J
06/16/05 21:19:15 Clare_KS: My d-i-l's gma had a massive stroke today, is in a Stage 2 coma.
06/16/05 21:19:34 Jana_in_Indiana: this will be a long recovery - at least months, perhaps a year or more
06/16/05 21:19:42 Clare_KS: expected to die tonight :(
06/16/05 21:19:46 Jana_in_Indiana: oh no!  So Sorry Clare
06/16/05 21:19:50 Chris_In_Colorado: they told my son he wouldnt go back to work for 2-3 yrs
06/16/05 21:20:09 Chris_In_Colorado: he went back in 13 mo,
06/16/05 21:20:11 sherry__(Mo): So sorry Clare
06/16/05 21:20:16 Chris_In_Colorado: sorry Clare
06/16/05 21:20:38 Clare_KS: thanks. It's been a tough day.
06/16/05 21:20:49 Jana_in_Indiana: Millie did speak to Pat Hancock last night (at my urging) & feel much better today
06/16/05 21:20:54 Shellie_CA: So sorry Clare
06/16/05 21:20:56 Clare_KS: oh good!
06/16/05 21:21:10 Clare_KS: How is Tami's husband?
06/16/05 21:21:22 Jana_in_Indiana: Pat's son was in a coma for months, had severe brain injury & swelling & now is doing wonderfully!
06/16/05 21:21:33 Jana_in_Indiana: still blind, going to specialist
06/16/05 21:21:49 Clare_KS: Did his retinas detach?
06/16/05 21:22:16 Jana_in_Indiana: no, it's dirt & junk plus the injuries
06/16/05 21:22:35 Jana_in_Indiana: wait, it's Millie's son in law that's still blind
06/16/05 21:22:49 Clare_KS: right
06/16/05 21:22:54 Jana_in_Indiana: Pat's son is now back to being himself with just slight hearing loss in one ear!
06/16/05 21:23:20 sherry__(Mo): How wonderful!!
06/16/05 21:23:21 Jana_in_Indiana: Millie sounds so much better today (emotionally)
06/16/05 21:23:47 Clare_KS: Be sure to keep telling her we are all thinking of them .
06/16/05 21:23:57 Jana_in_Indiana: she bought some books to read to Tami during her visits & bought a radio to place in her room for her to listen to
06/16/05 21:24:06 sherry__(Mo): Good-something like this can sure knock the wind out of your sails!
06/16/05 21:24:19 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I have & will continue to tell he how much everyone cares & is praying
06/16/05 21:24:28 Jana_in_Indiana: right sherry!
06/16/05 21:24:34 Chris_In_Colorado: my son lost his vision in his right eye from optic nerve damage, but it could have been so much worse, had 5 skull fractures including a open ,, missing a piece of his skull bigger then an egg
06/16/05 21:24:56 Jana_in_Indiana: Oh my goodness Chris!
06/16/05 21:25:09 Clare_KS: I have to go...work tomorrow ;(
06/16/05 21:25:13 Clare_KS: night all.
06/16/05 21:25:14 Chris_In_Colorado: he was in a trama center in Texas for 30 days, Ive been there
06/16/05 21:25:20 Shellie_CA: nite Clare
06/16/05 21:25:20 Tony__IL: night Clare
06/16/05 21:25:22 Clare_KS Logs Out
06/16/05 21:25:23 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm sure we all have miracles, this one will be Millie's!
06/16/05 21:25:23 sherry__(Mo): Take care Clare!!
06/16/05 21:25:25 Chris_In_Colorado: night Clare
06/16/05 21:25:27 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Clare
06/16/05 21:25:38 Charlene_in_OK: I gotta go, everyone have a great weekend. Millie and her family will remain in my prayers.
06/16/05 21:25:56 Jana_in_Indiana: all 4 of my kids were preemies & supposed to die!  I know all about miracles too!
06/16/05 21:25:58 Tony__IL: nite Charlene
06/16/05 21:26:01 sherry__(Mo): Night Charlene!!
06/16/05 21:26:02 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite charlene!
06/16/05 21:26:04 Chris_In_Colorado: Ive also wondered how Frank is doing , he isnt in the best health is he?
06/16/05 21:26:12 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, now what was that Q about ferts?
06/16/05 21:26:30 Tony__IL: what do you use?
06/16/05 21:26:35 Charlene_in_OK Logs Out
06/16/05 21:26:37 Jana_in_Indiana: Frank is being Millie's rock right now, making her eat, rest, etc -- exactly what she needs!
06/16/05 21:26:46 Chris_In_Colorado: good for Frank
06/16/05 21:27:04 Jana_in_Indiana: Frank's condition is not urgent, will be taken care of later
06/16/05 21:28:18 Jana_in_Indiana: I use many different kinds, except Eleanors!
06/16/05 21:28:29 sherry__(Mo): AMEN!!!
06/16/05 21:28:32 Chris_In_Colorado: Have never used or heard of it
06/16/05 21:28:39 Chris_In_Colorado: guess I didnt miss much
06/16/05 21:28:51 Jana_in_Indiana: Peters, Expert gardeners, some orchid fert,  you name it,
06/16/05 21:29:04 Jana_in_Indiana: also some generics
06/16/05 21:29:13 sherry__(Mo): You'll hear how wonderful it is Chris, but too many of us had problems with iit
06/16/05 21:29:28 Jana_in_Indiana: but, I also have soil ingredients in my soil, so I can use the urea ferts with no problem
06/16/05 21:30:19 Jana_in_Indiana: think about it, years ago all they had was fert w/ urea & everyone used it & the AV's grew & thrived -- they had soil in their soil
06/16/05 21:30:22 Tony__IL: how long before you see a change in the plants?
06/16/05 21:30:55 Chris_In_Colorado: I do think my babies are looking just a wee bit better since I got the Seaweed.. its only been a week but they look happier
06/16/05 21:31:21 Jana_in_Indiana: change?  I don't really see any change unless it's a bad fert then they stop growing, no blooms, or distorted leaves, otherwise they keep growing & blooming
06/16/05 21:32:02 Jana_in_Indiana: might be the placebo effect too, ;)
06/16/05 21:32:26 Chris_In_Colorado: LOL, well you do mist it on, so maybe they liked the shower?
06/16/05 21:32:30 Tony__IL: do you think wwe can over-kill? Too much fertilixers, seaweed, kelp, etc.?
06/16/05 21:32:32 sherry__(Mo): Do you mist with fertilizer Tony or Jana?
06/16/05 21:32:53 Jana_in_Indiana: I did see a huge change within a month when I switched to Pat's soil though, it has fert in it, chicken poop & compost
06/16/05 21:33:04 sherry__(Mo): Oh, I think we can over do the fertilizer Tony
06/16/05 21:33:18 Tony__IL: negative on the mist. Might try just water on a couple shelves and see what happens
06/16/05 21:33:22 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, Mr. T, too much fert give symptoms of mites
06/16/05 21:33:49 Jana_in_Indiana: I sprayed w/ FE once, never again!
06/16/05 21:33:59 Chris_In_Colorado: FE?
06/16/05 21:34:20 sherry__(Mo): I used to and they seemed ok-but I got out of the habit
06/16/05 21:34:25 Jana_in_Indiana: the smell gaged me!  It said it was deodorized, but all the deodorant left when I opened the bottle!  LOL
06/16/05 21:34:30 Jana_in_Indiana: Fish emulsion
06/16/05 21:34:35 Chris_In_Colorado: oh okay LOL
06/16/05 21:35:00 Chris_In_Colorado: Ive used that outside
06/16/05 21:35:03 Jana_in_Indiana: sprayed on fert is good for the AV's
06/16/05 21:35:20 Chris_In_Colorado: this says weekly,
06/16/05 21:35:28 sherry__(Mo): Supposedly there is an odorless one-but I don't know where they buy it
06/16/05 21:35:33 Jana_in_Indiana: about 85% is taken into the plant, compared to 20-30 in the water or soil
06/16/05 21:35:39 Chris_In_Colorado: he says he also uses it on his leaves if they need more moisture
06/16/05 21:35:57 Chris_In_Colorado: I was afraid it would spot the leaves but it didnt
06/16/05 21:36:06 Jana_in_Indiana: chris, what's the brand name of the seaweed extract?
06/16/05 21:36:30 Chris_In_Colorado: Growmore
06/16/05 21:36:41 Jana_in_Indiana: I know of people that show using kelp meal in the soil
06/16/05 21:37:02 Jana_in_Indiana: does it have other things added?
06/16/05 21:37:03 Tony__IL: never heard of that stuff, J
06/16/05 21:37:25 Jana_in_Indiana: it's just another soil amendment Mr. T
06/16/05 21:37:45 Jana_in_Indiana: (I'm enjjoying calling you Mr. T, like the TV show, LOL 0
06/16/05 21:37:54 Chris_In_Colorado: says %100 natural organic Kelp
06/16/05 21:38:22 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks Chris, I was doing a search of it last night, found all kinds of concoctions
06/16/05 21:38:25 Tony__IL: x-cept I don't have all the chains like he did and not nearly as big. LOL
06/16/05 21:38:48 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, you're the mini Mr. T!
06/16/05 21:39:01 Jana_in_Indiana: but you're not that mini!
06/16/05 21:39:08 sherry__(Mo): All those chains and I wouldn't be able to walk!
06/16/05 21:39:15 Chris_In_Colorado: well the Handsome one just got home, so its time to go talk to him.. good night and as always thanks for the wonderful advice
06/16/05 21:39:20 Tony__IL: that would work J. Would have to double my weight to be Mr. T LOL
06/16/05 21:39:25 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Chhris!
06/16/05 21:39:30 Chris_In_Colorado Logs Out
06/16/05 21:39:32 sherry__(Mo): Night Chris!
06/16/05 21:39:36 Tony__IL: nite Chris
06/16/05 21:39:40 Jana_in_Indiana: darned shaking hands keep making me stutter!
06/16/05 21:39:44 Tony__IL: poof again
06/16/05 21:40:24 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/16/05 21:40:34 Tony__IL: beside J, would have to buy all new clothes if I was Mr. T
06/16/05 21:40:35 Jana_in_Indiana: Shellie, you're awfully quiet!
06/16/05 21:40:52 Jana_in_Indiana: you'd need a really dark tan too!  ;)
06/16/05 21:40:59 Jana_in_Indiana: & a perm
06/16/05 21:41:05 Tony__IL: LOL LOL
06/16/05 21:41:19 Jana_in_Indiana: might be cute on you
06/16/05 21:41:26 Shellie_CA: I just bought a multi-colored sapphirwe ring on gem auction TV for $295
06/16/05 21:41:40 Jana_in_Indiana: wow, sounds pretty!
06/16/05 21:41:42 Tony__IL: you wouldn't recognize me LOL
06/16/05 21:41:44 sherry__(Mo): LOL!!
06/16/05 21:42:07 Jana_in_Indiana: is that a good deal Shellie, I've never seen that show
06/16/05 21:42:37 Shellie_CA: its on dish network 4 nites a week from 7-10 CA time
06/16/05 21:42:45 Tony__IL: gee, Shellie, you could have bought all them Russian violets on eBay for less $$
06/16/05 21:43:04 Jana_in_Indiana: now just think of all the AV's you could have got with that much money!  LOL
06/16/05 21:43:10 Shellie_CA: nbot with my bug problems
06/16/05 21:43:25 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that'll be cleared up soon
06/16/05 21:43:32 Shellie_CA: true but I also love jewelry
06/16/05 21:43:50 Jana_in_Indiana: well, it won't die or get bugs!
06/16/05 21:44:03 Tony__IL: with that $$ you could have tossed them all and replaced all of them, unless you have >50 or 100
06/16/05 21:44:04 Shellie_CA: thats very true
06/16/05 21:44:29 Shellie_CA: I have 70 varieties
06/16/05 21:44:32 Jana_in_Indiana: AV's are better for the family than jewelry!
06/16/05 21:44:51 sherry__(Mo): They are a great antidepressant!!
06/16/05 21:44:56 Jana_in_Indiana: you'll never see yur kids fighting over your AV's after you die!  LOL
06/16/05 21:45:01 sherry__(Mo): LOL
06/16/05 21:45:27 Tony__IL: my kids don't pay much attention to mine. AV's that is
06/16/05 21:45:30 Shellie_CA: if I had my won house that would be true but sharing a house with my pack rat sister Laura I feel crammed
06/16/05 21:45:38 Shellie_CA: own not won
06/16/05 21:45:51 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll bet!
06/16/05 21:45:52 sherry__(Mo): My daughter neither Tony-thank goodness for grandkids!
06/16/05 21:46:13 Jana_in_Indiana: & even if our kids want some av's, there's plent for everyone!
06/16/05 21:46:19 Jana_in_Indiana: plenty*
06/16/05 21:46:19 Shellie_CA: I have one plant stand and can not expand
06/16/05 21:46:26 Tony__IL: my son living here now Sherry
06/16/05 21:46:41 sherry__(Mo): How are you holding up Tony?!
06/16/05 21:47:01 Tony__IL: there are days and then there are days
06/16/05 21:47:17 Shellie_CA: until my plants are again healthy and growing and blooming they are not an antidepressant
06/16/05 21:47:33 sherry__(Mo): LOL-I know the feeling! Today was one of "those" days at my house
06/16/05 21:47:40 Shellie_CA: in fact I get depressed looking at all my palm trees
06/16/05 21:48:04 Tony__IL: mine also need a kick in the whatever, but will bloom if I have to kill them . LOL
06/16/05 21:48:08 sherry__(Mo): But it's hard thnking about other depressing things Shellie
06/16/05 21:48:16 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, some days are bad, some are worse!  I'm ready for some good one!
06/16/05 21:48:30 sherry__(Mo): I'll definitly Amen that Jana!
06/16/05 21:48:56 Tony__IL: well J will have to see what we get from Sweden
06/16/05 21:48:58 Shellie_CA: I will too Jana - Amen that is
06/16/05 21:49:20 Jana_in_Indiana: right, I told her I'd senf=d my box next week
06/16/05 21:49:41 Jana_in_Indiana: she's going to see if she can find some Swedish variegated AV's for me
06/16/05 21:49:46 sherry__(Mo): First Nina went off on the engineer. We get hoome and the phone repair guy shows up and she went off on him
06/16/05 21:49:48 Shellie_CA: depression - what's that - I take Zoloft everyday
06/16/05 21:49:54 sherry__(Mo): Neat Tony and Jana!!
06/16/05 21:50:05 Tony__IL: Jana and I are doing a little swap with a lady in Sweden. Some of the names she has, I can't even begin to pronounce.
06/16/05 21:50:23 Jana_in_Indiana: sounds like Nin needs some anger control lessons, try a kick in the butt!
06/16/05 21:50:39 Jana_in_Indiana: Nina*
06/16/05 21:50:42 sherry__(Mo): Should have done that years ago Jana
06/16/05 21:51:19 sherry__(Mo): I finally got it through her head, they can tie things up longer if she has an attitude
06/16/05 21:51:34 Tony__IL: I'll trade ya for a couple weeks and see what happens, Sharry
06/16/05 21:51:42 sherry__(Mo): so she's calmed down now anyway
06/16/05 21:51:51 Jana_in_Indiana: here's one of Sofie's AV's:
06/16/05 21:51:55 sherry__(Mo): You'd send her right back Tony!
06/16/05 21:51:56 Jana_in_Indiana: Handelssort mini blå med vit kant
06/16/05 21:52:09 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, what does that say?  LOL
06/16/05 21:52:25 Tony__IL: right, that's one I can't pronounce LOL
06/16/05 21:52:26 sherry__(Mo): Wow! No cursing Jana-LOL
06/16/05 21:52:30 Shellie_CA: oh my gosh, what a name
06/16/05 21:52:35 Jana_in_Indiana: or how about: Lilla Blåklockan
06/16/05 21:53:07 Jana_in_Indiana: Maria från Ullared
06/16/05 21:53:08 Tony__IL: will take that one too. Would be like a kid in a candy store
06/16/05 21:53:16 sherry__(Mo): Have you seen pictures of them?
06/16/05 21:53:18 Jana_in_Indiana: we all would be Tony!
06/16/05 21:53:21 Jana_in_Indiana: nope!
06/16/05 21:53:44 sherry__(Mo): LOL-what if they look like KMart specials
06/16/05 21:54:02 sherry__(Mo): But at least they'd have neat names!!
06/16/05 21:54:19 Shellie_CA: with names like that no one would know if you made a typo
06/16/05 21:54:26 Jana_in_Indiana: right, might get a jump on things, beat out the Russian AV's, LOL!
06/16/05 21:54:28 Tony__IL: take 1 suitcae and 2 changes, no 1 change of clothes and see how many leaves we could bring home
06/16/05 21:54:38 sherry__(Mo): Noyt that there is anything wrong with Kmart specials
06/16/05 21:54:52 Jana_in_Indiana: if the price is right!
06/16/05 21:55:11 sherry__(Mo): LOL Tony
06/16/05 21:55:28 Jana_in_Indiana: but customs would go thru your bags tony!
06/16/05 21:55:40 Tony__IL: NO SOIL
06/16/05 21:55:53 Jana_in_Indiana: shipping is a better option for now & lots Cheaper!!!
06/16/05 21:55:57 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
06/16/05 21:56:14 Tony__IL: Yes it cost me $6.50 to mail it
06/16/05 21:56:23 Jana_in_Indiana: well folks, I need to go, got too much to do!
06/16/05 21:56:29 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that's cheap enough!
06/16/05 21:56:41 sherry__(Mo): Night Jana
06/16/05 21:56:47 Shellie_CA: good nite Jana
06/16/05 21:56:48 Tony__IL: later J Have a good week-end
06/16/05 21:56:51 sherry__(Mo): Guess I'll go too
06/16/05 21:57:01 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Sherry, Shellie & Tony!  G'nite john boy!
06/16/05 21:57:11 sherry__(Mo): Take care Tony, Shellie, and Jana!!
06/16/05 21:57:13 Tony__IL: LOL
06/16/05 21:57:14 Shellie_CA: nite Sherry
06/16/05 21:57:19 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out
06/16/05 21:57:24 Jana_in_Indiana Logs Out
06/16/05 21:57:27 Tony__IL: nite Sherry
06/16/05 21:57:46 Shellie_CA: well Tony just us two so I will say good nite too
06/16/05 21:58:13 Tony__IL: Well Shellie, give my uncles in San Diego a call have have them give me a call
06/16/05 21:58:19 Tony__IL: Nite Shellie
06/16/05 21:58:42 Shellie_CA: note Tony
06/16/05 21:58:47 Shellie_CA: nite Tony
06/16/05 21:58:49 Shellie_CA Logs Out
06/16/05 21:58:59 Tony__IL Logs Out