06/12/05 19:55:14 Tom_in_WI Logs in [69.23.101.165] 06/12/05 19:55:47 Tom_in_WI Logs Out 06/12/05 19:57:49 Denise Logs in [204.50.10.39] 06/12/05 19:57:59 Denise Logs Out 06/12/05 20:00:04 Tom_in_WI Logs in [69.23.101.165] 06/12/05 20:04:35 Tom_in_WI Logs Out 06/12/05 20:04:52 Patty_in_MD Logs in [72.9.0.162] 06/12/05 20:05:16 Patty_in_MD: Is anyone else here yet? 06/12/05 20:06:51 Peggy_in_Pa Logs in [207.172.119.154] 06/12/05 20:07:09 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Patty 06/12/05 20:07:21 Patty_in_MD: Hi Peggy. I wonder where everyone else is tonight??!! 06/12/05 20:07:23 Tony___IL Logs in [207.43.75.34] 06/12/05 20:07:29 Patty_in_MD: Hi Tony. 06/12/05 20:07:32 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Tony 06/12/05 20:07:40 Tony___IL: how is everyone tonite? 06/12/05 20:07:58 Patty_in_MD: Doing fine. 06/12/05 20:08:03 Peggy_in_Pa: Great!! 06/12/05 20:08:10 Tony___IL: been to any shows this weekend? 06/12/05 20:08:40 Patty_in_MD: No. There aren't any in my area for quite a while. :( 06/12/05 20:08:41 Peggy_in_Pa: Nothing since the 13th of May 06/12/05 20:09:10 Tom_in_WI Logs in [69.23.101.165] 06/12/05 20:09:16 Patty_in_MD: Hi Tom. 06/12/05 20:09:18 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Tom 06/12/05 20:09:31 Tom_in_WI: Hi! 06/12/05 20:09:36 Tony___IL: my son went to visit a frient in NYC this weekend, but doubt he saw any AV's 06/12/05 20:09:50 Tony___IL: hi Tom 06/12/05 20:10:19 Peggy_in_Pa: Do you tink thing slow down during the summer 06/12/05 20:10:23 Peggy_in_Pa: think 06/12/05 20:11:14 Tony___IL: in the past couple weeks, seems like the chats have been slower 06/12/05 20:11:41 Tony___IL: fewer people showing up 06/12/05 20:11:59 Tom_in_WI: Are any of you hybridizing AVs? 06/12/05 20:12:20 Peggy_in_Pa: I tried. First time 06/12/05 20:12:37 Peggy_in_Pa: can't see anything yet 06/12/05 20:12:39 Tony___IL: not yet 06/12/05 20:12:40 Tom_in_WI: What did you use for parents? 06/12/05 20:13:08 Peggy_in_Pa: Cool Mint on Apache Brave 06/12/05 20:13:36 Walt_in_MD Logs in [24.35.119.251] 06/12/05 20:13:36 Peggy_in_Pa: Both variegated with solid color flowers 06/12/05 20:13:40 Tom_in_WI: Next question, how did you pick them (why) 06/12/05 20:13:59 Walt_in_MD: Hi all 06/12/05 20:14:07 Tony___IL: hi Walt 06/12/05 20:14:16 Patty_in_MD: Hi Walt. 06/12/05 20:14:52 Peggy_in_Pa: I used to different variegated and 1 dark blue and the other white blossoms. 06/12/05 20:15:16 Tom_in_WI: What were you trying for? 06/12/05 20:15:27 Walt_in_MD: As I am late what are we up to 06/12/05 20:15:38 Peggy_in_Pa: I'm trying for solid color blossoms because you don't see many any more. Very few entered in our show 06/12/05 20:16:05 Tom_in_WI: What collor were you looking for? 06/12/05 20:16:14 Tom_in_WI: Color 06/12/05 20:17:02 Patty_in_MD: Peggy is trying hybridizing for the first time. 06/12/05 20:17:12 Peggy_in_Pa: don't know just, something nice 06/12/05 20:17:57 Tom_in_WI: I'm trying to figure out how one chooses the parents. What is predictable? if anything 06/12/05 20:18:05 Peggy_in_Pa: Has anyone else tried? 06/12/05 20:18:08 Walt_in_MD: Good for her. I hope to start this fall. 06/12/05 20:19:09 Patty_in_MD: Not me. I'm still in the "try to keep the leaves alive until they have babies" stage of this game! 06/12/05 20:19:20 Denise Logs in [204.50.10.4] 06/12/05 20:19:25 Tony___IL: I thought there was some stuff in the file section by Jeff Smith (?) as to dominants and recessives 06/12/05 20:19:28 Walt_in_MD: Peggy, I have several papers written by Jeff Smith on traites and stuff like that 06/12/05 20:19:48 Peggy_in_Pa: Yes Walt I have read them 06/12/05 20:20:10 Tom_in_WI: I've seen those but was wondering about other peoples experience. 06/12/05 20:20:30 Peggy_in_Pa: Don't remember what I might get out of my cross 06/12/05 20:21:31 Walt_in_MD: Years ago I did the surprise me method and just crossed the limited number of av's I could get. 06/12/05 20:21:52 Peggy_in_Pa: BRB 06/12/05 20:22:03 Tom_in_WI: BRB? 06/12/05 20:22:24 Tony___IL: what happened Tom? 06/12/05 20:22:39 Tony___IL: excuse, Walt? 06/12/05 20:23:14 Patty_in_MD: BRB=be right back 06/12/05 20:23:26 Walt_in_MD: Now I am going to try and do it with some plan in mind this time. I got more un interesting av's. 06/12/05 20:23:54 Tom_in_WI: So what will be yout plan? 06/12/05 20:24:13 Peggy_in_Pa: I'm back 06/12/05 20:25:50 Walt_in_MD: I am still working on that. I am interested in seeing what is still hidding in the original av's. Also would like to add some strength and blooming traits to some new ones. 06/12/05 20:27:24 Tom_in_WI: So you'd be using the originals as one of the parents? Then cross it with an un-original? 06/12/05 20:27:31 Peggy_in_Pa: Walt do you mean Species or 10 original 06/12/05 20:29:11 Walt_in_MD: Both. I also want to cross species. Some of the original 10 and the older av's were hardier then some of the new hybrids. Would like to get that back. 06/12/05 20:30:11 Walt_in_MD: Peggy, I did the same thing years ago. Did not take notes and keep records. Will not make that mistake this time. 06/12/05 20:30:21 Tony___IL: hardier in what aspects? 06/12/05 20:31:07 Walt_in_MD: Temp, light and water requirments. 06/12/05 20:32:30 Peggy_in_Pa: A friend of mine as crossed a few times with Blue Boy. A lot babies drop their blossoms. 06/12/05 20:33:15 Patty_in_MD: Well, it's getting past my bedtime here. Goodnight everyone. Good luck with your hybrids! 06/12/05 20:33:22 Patty_in_MD Logs Out 06/12/05 20:33:34 Peggy_in_Pa: I have 2 of her seedlings, 1 drops and the other is semi dble and holds 06/12/05 20:33:45 Tony___IL: nite Pattty 06/12/05 20:34:04 Walt_in_MD: That is one of the problems with a lot of the earlier av's. 06/12/05 20:34:32 Tom_in_WI: Peggy, how manmy seedling did she get? 06/12/05 20:34:48 Peggy_in_Pa: a lot!!!!!!! 06/12/05 20:35:18 Tom_in_WI: DEid she grow them all out? 06/12/05 20:35:51 Peggy_in_Pa: no, she gave many away, still has some 06/12/05 20:36:17 Walt_in_MD: The thing with hybridizing is that you will only get 1 or 2 per-cent that are keepers. The rest you give away or trash. 06/12/05 20:37:07 Tom_in_WI: What would be considered as keepers? 06/12/05 20:37:17 Peggy_in_Pa: Both os her seedling I'm growing the 2nd gen. now 06/12/05 20:37:26 Walt_in_MD: Got to go, wife calling, good night all 06/12/05 20:37:41 Peggy_in_Pa: bye Walt 06/12/05 20:37:45 Walt_in_MD Logs Out 06/12/05 20:37:57 Tony___IL: nite Walt 06/12/05 20:38:41 Tony___IL: how long does 3 generations take? 06/12/05 20:39:00 Peggy_in_Pa: I don't know 06/12/05 20:39:45 Denise Disconnects 06/12/05 20:40:32 Tony___IL: are you hybridizing Tom 06/12/05 20:40:49 Peggy_in_Pa: Do you think first blooms are true? 06/12/05 20:41:07 Peggy_in_Pa: I've heard pro and con on this 06/12/05 20:41:20 Tom_in_WI: Not yet. I'm trying to get more info. I think I will try the semis or minis 06/12/05 20:42:00 Tony___IL: can't believe how small some of the minis are 06/12/05 20:42:23 Tom_in_WI: That way I should have room! 06/12/05 20:42:42 Tony___IL: right LOL 06/12/05 20:43:17 Tom_in_WI: I would think that some would be true first blooms. I guess that's the perpouse of growing them 3 generation. 06/12/05 20:43:45 Tom_in_WI: To see if they are. 06/12/05 20:44:10 Tony___IL: just to make sure they don't sport or change 06/12/05 20:44:32 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.162.112.187] 06/12/05 20:44:45 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Sherry 06/12/05 20:44:48 sherry__(Mo): Hi Peggy, Tony, and Tom 06/12/05 20:44:53 Tom_in_WI: Hi! 06/12/05 20:44:55 Tony___IL: Hi Sherry 06/12/05 20:45:01 sherry__(Mo): where's everyone at? 06/12/05 20:45:10 Peggy_in_Pa: ?????????????? 06/12/05 20:45:16 Tony___IL: vacation?? LOL 06/12/05 20:45:34 sherry__(Mo): Maybe they're getting the storm we had here earlier 06/12/05 20:45:55 sherry__(Mo): Vacation-what's that Tony!!? 06/12/05 20:46:08 Tony___IL: buckets are out and I'm waiting for the water 06/12/05 20:46:34 sherry__(Mo): It really came down here!! 06/12/05 20:47:39 Peggy_in_Pa: Tony do you use rainwater on your violets? 06/12/05 20:48:02 Tony___IL: when available, yes rain water 06/12/05 20:48:22 Tom_in_WI: Do you really?? 06/12/05 20:48:30 Peggy_in_Pa: I never tried it 06/12/05 20:48:57 Tony___IL: cheap and no chemicals like chlorine and salt to worry about 06/12/05 20:49:12 Peggy_in_Pa: How many buckets do you use 06/12/05 20:49:23 sherry__(Mo): Good idea Tony. I've never tried it either 06/12/05 20:49:33 Tony___IL: 3-5 gallon and lots of bottles 06/12/05 20:50:10 Tony___IL: put them under the down spouts 06/12/05 20:50:49 Peggy_in_Pa: what about the dirt on the roof 06/12/05 20:51:06 Tony___IL: settles out to the bottom of the buckets 06/12/05 20:51:38 Tom_in_WI: Do any of you monitor your ph? 06/12/05 20:51:43 Tony___IL: or if it looks like bad, then just dump it out and catch the next batch 06/12/05 20:52:00 Tony___IL: about 7.0 on the pH 06/12/05 20:52:33 Tom_in_WI: How do you monitor it. Is there a gauge of something? 06/12/05 20:53:09 sherry__(Mo): I do occassionaly-when I think of it, but not as often as I should I guess 06/12/05 20:53:31 Shellie_ Logs in [172.198.81.188] 06/12/05 20:53:41 Shellie_ Logs Out 06/12/05 20:53:48 Shellie_CA Logs in [172.198.81.188] 06/12/05 20:53:57 Tony___IL: use a soil pH meter. Should go to Wally Mart and get apH kit for about $9 the use for fish tanks 06/12/05 20:54:03 Tony___IL: hi Shellie 06/12/05 20:54:04 sherry__(Mo): Hi Shellie 06/12/05 20:54:08 Shellie_CA: Hi 06/12/05 20:54:12 Shellie_CA: everyone 06/12/05 20:54:44 Tom_in_WI: So you stick the meter in the soil? 06/12/05 20:55:47 Tom_in_WI: Or water? 06/12/05 20:56:29 Tony___IL: soil meter in damp soil. Supposedly not for water 06/12/05 20:57:20 Tom_in_WI: Let me get this straight. . .opu used a fish tank ph meter in the soil???? 06/12/05 20:58:52 sherry__(Mo): I think the meter is a soil meter 06/12/05 20:59:02 Tony___IL: pH kit at WalMart in the pet section for measuring water pH in fish tanks 06/12/05 20:59:36 Tom_in_WI: Tony, is that what you use in the soil? 06/12/05 21:00:01 sherry__(Mo): I know the garden centers has them too 06/12/05 21:00:07 Tony___IL: pH meter for the soil 06/12/05 21:00:37 Tom_in_WI: Are they expensive? And how often do you check the ph? 06/12/05 21:00:50 Tony___IL: pH meter apparently not valid for water 06/12/05 21:01:20 sherry__(Mo): I haven't checked mine in a long time Tom-shame on me! 06/12/05 21:01:32 Tony___IL: soil, every couple month. Haven't bought the pH kit for water 06/12/05 21:01:45 Peggy_in_Pa: me too Sherry 06/12/05 21:01:51 Tom_in_WI: Sometimes I think we make things toooo difficult! 06/12/05 21:03:22 sherry__(Mo): I agree Tom. Some of the conversations really get technical-and waaaay over my head! 06/12/05 21:03:39 Peggy_in_Pa: Tom I agree 06/12/05 21:03:43 sherry__(Mo): (But it doesn't take much to go over my head-LOL) 06/12/05 21:03:48 Tom_in_WI: Takes the fun out of growing! 06/12/05 21:03:58 sherry__(Mo): I agree. 06/12/05 21:04:54 Tom_in_WI: Tony, do you check every pot or just one? 06/12/05 21:04:57 Peggy_in_Pa: I'm not braging but I just won alot of ribbon at my show and I don't what my PH is 06/12/05 21:04:57 Tony___IL: I think you can be caught in the micro side of this. Grandma never did any of this 06/12/05 21:05:18 Tony___IL: congrats Peggy 06/12/05 21:05:35 Tom_in_WI: Peggy, it must be just right!! 06/12/05 21:05:53 Peggy_in_Pa: I'm not going to worry about it!!! 06/12/05 21:06:09 Tony___IL: apparently they like it LOL 06/12/05 21:06:35 Peggy_in_Pa: I do transplant offen 06/12/05 21:07:14 Tom_in_WI: I'm thinking if you repot your avs you should not have to de concerned about the ph unless your water is way off. 06/12/05 21:07:17 sherry__(Mo): Peggy, did you look at the project plants at your show? Last year there was such a difference in the way the project plants had grown for the different members here-it was interesting to see 06/12/05 21:07:29 Jane_CA Logs in [69.4.138.152] 06/12/05 21:07:34 sherry__(Mo): Hi Jane 06/12/05 21:07:39 Jane_CA: Hi All 06/12/05 21:07:42 Tony___IL: I repotted about a month ago and looks like they need bigger pots already. Is this noormal? 06/12/05 21:07:44 Shellie_CA: hI jANE 06/12/05 21:07:46 Tony___IL: Hi Jane 06/12/05 21:08:05 sherry__(Mo): Mine usually get a nice growth spurt when I repot Tony 06/12/05 21:08:10 Tony___IL: 3 oz Solo cups now 06/12/05 21:08:46 Peggy_in_Pa: Tony They must be HAPPY 06/12/05 21:08:46 Jane_CA: I'm having a really hard luck with plantets. They just don't seem to like me... 06/12/05 21:09:05 sherry__(Mo): what are they doing Jane? 06/12/05 21:09:19 Jane_CA: Do you really want to know??? 06/12/05 21:09:31 sherry__(Mo): Yep 06/12/05 21:09:58 Jane_CA: They are dying, a slow death it seems 06/12/05 21:10:04 Tony___IL: lately all of mine need crutches to stand up straight 06/12/05 21:10:08 Jane_CA: One leaf at a time 06/12/05 21:10:31 sherry__(Mo): Are they covered Jane? 06/12/05 21:10:39 Tony___IL: what are the leaves doing, Jane 06/12/05 21:10:39 sherry__(Mo): I have some like that Tony 06/12/05 21:10:40 Jane_CA: Wish they were as happy as Tony's!! 06/12/05 21:11:02 Jane_CA: I covered them and got the same result 06/12/05 21:11:02 _Chris_In_Colorado Logs in [172.194.55.182] 06/12/05 21:11:05 Tony___IL: changed anything recently? 06/12/05 21:11:10 Tony___IL: hi Chris 06/12/05 21:11:16 _Chris_In_Colorado: Hi everyone 06/12/05 21:11:18 sherry__(Mo): Hi Chris 06/12/05 21:11:24 Shellie_CA: Hi Chris 06/12/05 21:11:29 Jane_CA: They are ones I got from others 06/12/05 21:11:48 Jane_CA: So, they changed from there to here 06/12/05 21:12:08 sherry__(Mo): Are they leaves you're trying to root? 06/12/05 21:12:18 _Chris_In_Colorado: got here so late, was out playing with the dogs 06/12/05 21:12:19 Jane_CA: No, little plantlets 06/12/05 21:12:37 sherry__(Mo): Are they covered? 06/12/05 21:12:54 Jane_CA: Covered didn't seem to make any difference 06/12/05 21:13:07 Tom_in_WI: Over watering?? 06/12/05 21:13:11 sherry__(Mo): Too much fertilizer? 06/12/05 21:13:30 Jane_CA: I have fertilized, but litely 06/12/05 21:13:43 Jane_CA: I try not to over water 06/12/05 21:13:53 sherry__(Mo): What is the approximate temperature where they are? 06/12/05 21:14:10 Jane_CA: House temp....about 78 perhaps 06/12/05 21:14:18 sherry__(Mo): What is your soil mixture? 06/12/05 21:14:51 _Chris_In_Colorado: I just got 6 new babies Saturday from Violet Showcase. what a neat place to visit 06/12/05 21:15:15 sherry__(Mo): I bet Chris!!! Which babies did you get? 06/12/05 21:16:01 _Chris_In_Colorado: Cinammon Candy, Ode To Beauty, Ozio, Ma's Soiree, Dumpling and Maggie Lee 06/12/05 21:16:04 Jane_CA: Soil is perlite, Vermiculite and african violet mix 06/12/05 21:16:25 Peggy_in_Pa: How much of each? 06/12/05 21:16:35 sherry__(Mo): Sounds nice Chris! 06/12/05 21:16:37 Jane_CA: One part of each 06/12/05 21:16:42 _Chris_In_Colorado: they are nice plants 06/12/05 21:16:52 _Chris_In_Colorado: very helpful and friendly people up there 06/12/05 21:17:21 sherry__(Mo): I'd ordered from them when I first got started and was very pleased 06/12/05 21:17:32 Peggy_in_Pa: Jane soil sound OK 06/12/05 21:17:43 _Chris_In_Colorado: I also got some supplies. 06/12/05 21:17:55 Jane_CA: Thought it was....some are still in the soil they came with 06/12/05 21:18:07 Jane_CA: I didn't move them 06/12/05 21:18:08 Tom_in_WI: Jane, are you wicking? 06/12/05 21:18:16 Jane_CA: No wicking 06/12/05 21:18:16 sherry__(Mo): I use more perlite in my mix than alot of others do. 06/12/05 21:18:18 _Chris_In_Colorado: they had a grown in full bloom Dumpling.. man was it pretty. 06/12/05 21:18:35 sherry__(Mo): Are they al from the same place? 06/12/05 21:18:56 Jane_CA: It doesn't seem to matter where they come from!!! 06/12/05 21:19:20 _Chris_In_Colorado: Jane, can you bring me up to speed? 06/12/05 21:20:18 Jane_CA: Chris, I just can't seem to keep small plantlets alive. These are plants from mostly very reliable ebay vendors. I have gotten larger plants from them with no problems 06/12/05 21:21:48 _Chris_In_Colorado: oh Im sorry, 06/12/05 21:22:00 Jane_CA: Me too!!! 06/12/05 21:22:04 _Chris_In_Colorado: I bet 06/12/05 21:22:10 _Chris_In_Colorado Logs Out 06/12/05 21:22:34 Tony___IL: Jane, how small is small? 06/12/05 21:23:00 Tony___IL: what size pot and how many leaves 06/12/05 21:23:37 Jane_CA: Some were quite small, maybe 5 or 6 leaves and some were a little bigger. In solo cups. One lady sent them bare root and I lost all of them 06/12/05 21:24:16 Jane_CA: The bare root wasn't from ebay but a nice person who was sending plants to a very anxious newby!! 06/12/05 21:25:18 Tony___IL: bare roots are more difficult 06/12/05 21:25:34 Jane_CA: So I found out!! 06/12/05 21:26:00 Jane_CA: Some day this will all come together, I hope... 06/12/05 21:26:04 Tom_in_WI: Why would someone send them bare roots? 06/12/05 21:26:25 Jane_CA: I really don't know.... 06/12/05 21:27:04 Tony___IL: Jane want a couple tests. I have Rob's Boolaroo and Aca's Red Ember as babies 06/12/05 21:27:07 Tom_in_WI: Did it look like they were started in water or was there soil on the roots? 06/12/05 21:27:16 sherry__(Mo): I've gotten bare root ones too. Mybe they can get more in a package? I don't know! 06/12/05 21:27:39 Jane_CA: Sherry that well could be the answer 06/12/05 21:27:52 Jane_CA: Tony, what am I testing? 06/12/05 21:28:00 Tony___IL: usually bare roots overseas as they don't want soil 06/12/05 21:28:21 Tony___IL: I'll send you a couple and see if they die off 06/12/05 21:28:26 sherry__(Mo): Or canada Tony!! 06/12/05 21:28:36 Jane_CA: Oh, wow, that would be great.... 06/12/05 21:28:52 Tony___IL: same thing, Sherry, only different 06/12/05 21:29:09 Jane_CA: Tom, the plants did have some dirt on the roots 06/12/05 21:29:20 Tony___IL: mail me at tclayt2001@yahoo.com and we can set up something 06/12/05 21:29:46 Jane_CA: I will surely do that Tony, thank you so much..... 06/12/05 21:29:46 sherry__(Mo): I'm worried about when I do send Dehis when he gets back from his vacation 06/12/05 21:30:07 Tony___IL: mine got to Del fine last year 06/12/05 21:30:12 Tony___IL: leaves only 06/12/05 21:30:38 Tom_in_WI: Did you have to mark the package "no soil"? 06/12/05 21:30:43 Jane_CA: I tried leaves too....same thing 06/12/05 21:30:54 Tony___IL: Del said not to wrap the leaves in anything, just dry 06/12/05 21:31:18 Tony___IL: marked "no soil" yes 06/12/05 21:31:56 Jane_CA: But, I think I used outside leaves....newbie mistake!! 06/12/05 21:32:43 sherry__(Mo): I've lost most of teh ones I got from Jana-one at a time 06/12/05 21:33:10 Tony___IL: I only lost 1 of her's so far 06/12/05 21:33:15 sherry__(Mo): sorry-can't ttpe! 06/12/05 21:33:27 sherry__(Mo): LOL-"type" 06/12/05 21:33:42 Jane_CA: Sherry were they plantlets or leaves? 06/12/05 21:33:50 sherry__(Mo): Leaves 06/12/05 21:33:56 Tony___IL: oging to try a trade from Sweden next week. Hope it works 06/12/05 21:34:03 Tony___IL: going* 06/12/05 21:34:20 sherry__(Mo): Neat Tony!! 06/12/05 21:34:29 Jane_CA: Oh, keep us informed Tony to see if it works 06/12/05 21:34:49 Tony___IL: she's got soem I can't even pronounce the name of it 06/12/05 21:34:56 sherry__(Mo): LOL 06/12/05 21:35:05 Tom_in_WI: How did you arrange that trade? 06/12/05 21:35:05 Jane_CA: Like the Russian ones!!! 06/12/05 21:35:24 Tony___IL: That would be TOO much to ask for Jane 06/12/05 21:35:45 Jane_CA: LOL 06/12/05 21:35:45 sherry__(Mo): I do have more trouble starting leaves as the weather gets warmer here 06/12/05 21:36:07 Tony___IL: long story but a lady from IL contacted me last year saying she had a friend in Sweden..... 06/12/05 21:36:32 Shellie_CA: in my move from NM to CA the leaves that I got from Jana got dumped. I saved most. But now I don,t know whos who 06/12/05 21:36:41 Tom_in_WI: I thought maybe you did it through the international group. 06/12/05 21:36:53 Tony___IL: I did Ajohn's Enterprise and Summer Sun last year 06/12/05 21:37:19 Jane_CA: Oh my Shellie, what a mess!! Maybe you will know when they bloom 06/12/05 21:37:34 Shellie_CA: Thats what I am hoping 06/12/05 21:38:11 Jane_CA: If they are all different colors!!! 06/12/05 21:38:22 Shellie_CA: I hear ya 06/12/05 21:38:40 Tony___IL: sizes and blossom types will sort it all out 06/12/05 21:38:50 Jane_CA: I have some that are almost the same color until the sun hits them.... 06/12/05 21:39:08 Peggy_in_Pa: Getting late I have to say nite all 06/12/05 21:39:17 Shellie_CA: nite Peggy 06/12/05 21:39:18 Tony___IL: nite Peggy 06/12/05 21:39:19 Jane_CA: Bye Peggy 06/12/05 21:39:22 Peggy_in_Pa Logs Out 06/12/05 21:39:26 sherry__(Mo): Take care Peggy 06/12/05 21:39:30 Tom_in_WI: How many plants do you have to sort thur? 06/12/05 21:39:40 sherry__(Mo): Darn, too late 06/12/05 21:40:45 sherry__(Mo): Jane, do you have any trouble starting leaves? If not, start a leaf as soon as you get your plants 06/12/05 21:41:55 Tony___IL: Jane, can you post any pictures of them? 06/12/05 21:42:32 Jane_CA: The plants are way too teeny to start a leaf. I had thought of that 06/12/05 21:42:53 Jane_CA: I don't think a picture would tell the story... 06/12/05 21:43:23 Jane_CA: One day the leaf is fine and the next, or so it seems, it is laying down 06/12/05 21:43:42 Jane_CA: So, I snip them off 06/12/05 21:45:00 Tom_in_WI: I've got one right now that's been laying flat foor a ciouple of weeks.. Shows no sign of rotting or dying. It just lays there! 06/12/05 21:45:48 Jane_CA: Well, at least it is still alive!!! 06/12/05 21:46:05 Tom_in_WI: Everyday I am surprised! 06/12/05 21:46:59 Tony___IL: how deep are they potted? 06/12/05 21:47:25 Tom_in_WI: Noy very deep. 06/12/05 21:48:06 Jane_CA: Should they be potted to a certain depth? 06/12/05 21:49:12 Tom_in_WI: I try to keep mine shallow. My thinking is that it will take less time for the ears to show. 06/12/05 21:49:18 Tony___IL: about 1/2" 06/12/05 21:50:03 Tony___IL: think your right on the Tom, not so much soil to come up thru 06/12/05 21:50:19 Jane_CA: Oh, I thought you were talking about plantlets!!! How deep should they be planted? 06/12/05 21:50:48 Tom_in_WI: Just make sure tht the cut is covered. On bigger leaves I use a toothpick to hold the leaf in place 06/12/05 21:51:27 Tony___IL: Plantlets to the soil depth they grew in Where the stem and the roots meet 06/12/05 21:51:28 Jane_CA: Toothpick through the stem on next to it? 06/12/05 21:51:50 Tom_in_WI: Through the leaf. Won't hurt it. 06/12/05 21:52:00 Jane_CA: Oh, OK 06/12/05 21:52:29 Tony___IL: I use the 3oz Solos and lean the leaf up against the cup 06/12/05 21:52:41 Jane_CA: Thanks Tony, good to know when I get to that point!!! If ever.... 06/12/05 21:53:28 Tom_in_WI: Jane, once you get there you'll have to start building shelves! 06/12/05 21:53:42 sherry__(Mo): Keep trying different ways Jane-you'll finally find out what woorks for you 06/12/05 21:53:57 Jane_CA: LOL, I'll let you know whenever that happens!!! 06/12/05 21:54:08 sherry__(Mo): And then still not have enough shells-right Tony? 06/12/05 21:54:29 Tony___IL: I still don't 06/12/05 21:54:50 sherry__(Mo): I know the feeliing! 06/12/05 21:54:51 Jane_CA: Oh, dear, I'm headed for trouble maybe... 06/12/05 21:55:51 Tom_in_WI: Jane, do you have a spare bedroom?? 06/12/05 21:56:16 Jane_CA: No, Tom!!! Maybe a good thing!!! 06/12/05 21:56:26 Jane_CA: Or.....maybe not 06/12/05 21:56:37 sherry__(Mo): (Or any kids you can move out-LOL!) 06/12/05 21:56:45 Tom_in_WI: I see a remodeling job in your future! 06/12/05 21:56:49 Jane_CA: Moved them out long ago!! 06/12/05 21:56:51 Tony___IL: 4 stands and 60 trays later ................ 06/12/05 21:57:08 Jane_CA: Only 4 stands Tony??? 06/12/05 21:57:45 Tom_in_WI: They're proibably 20 feet long 06/12/05 21:57:46 Tony___IL: so far 06/12/05 21:57:55 Jane_CA: Spare room is now a very crowded office.... 06/12/05 21:57:59 sherry__(Mo): Tony, I don't see how some of these people keep up with as many as some of them have! 06/12/05 21:58:15 Tony___IL: 4 ft long /self 06/12/05 21:58:39 Tony___IL: wondereding that myself. LOL 06/12/05 21:58:44 Jane_CA: 20 feet long??? Whew... 06/12/05 21:59:42 Tony___IL: better go. Jane, you have my e-mail address? 06/12/05 22:00:01 sherry__(Mo): Take care Tony 06/12/05 22:00:02 Jane_CA: Yes Tony, I already sent a test email 06/12/05 22:00:13 Jane_CA: I need to go too.... 06/12/05 22:00:15 Tony___IL: chat at you all later 06/12/05 22:00:24 Tony___IL Logs Out 06/12/05 22:00:27 Jane_CA: See y'all later and thanks 06/12/05 22:00:32 Shellie_CA: good nite all 06/12/05 22:00:36 Jane_CA Logs Out 06/12/05 22:00:48 Shellie_CA Logs Out 06/12/05 22:00:53 sherry__(Mo): Guess I'd better go too 06/12/05 22:01:01 Tom_in_WI: Night 06/12/05 22:01:02 sherry__(Mo): Takie care Tom!! 06/12/05 22:01:14 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out 06/12/05 22:01:18 Tom_in_WI Logs Out