07/6/05 19:09:22 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
07/6/05 19:09:28 Tony__IL Logs Out
07/6/05 19:26:20 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.198.169.242]
07/6/05 19:28:29 Tony__IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
07/6/05 19:28:39 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tony!
07/6/05 19:29:10 Tony__IL: you're a little early too
07/6/05 19:29:26 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL yup!
07/6/05 19:29:33 Jana_in_Indiana: it's better than late!
07/6/05 19:29:58 Tony__IL: I need one of them mikes you can just talk into and it does the typing
07/6/05 19:30:40 Tony__IL: did get a possible source for the boxes. Now if I would only get the pricelist for the trays
07/6/05 19:30:46 Jana_in_Indiana: OMG!  Yes, me too, but I had Anngela check them out, & she said you had to 'teach' the program how you speak every word!  That would take forever!
07/6/05 19:31:03 Jana_in_Indiana: still don't have that list?  Darn!
07/6/05 19:31:29 Tony__IL: everyone has different accents, so it has some words you have to say so it can learn
07/6/05 19:31:59 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm just not patient enough to 'teach' a program I have to pay for, LOL!
07/6/05 19:32:05 Tony__IL: I don't understand how you can say period and not mean "."
07/6/05 19:32:44 Jana_in_Indiana: well, that's because you're a man!  LOLOLOL!
07/6/05 19:32:55 Tony__IL: and some of the docs would be frightening. I can hardly understand tham. LOL
07/6/05 19:33:11 Jana_in_Indiana: 'period' means something VERY different to gals!  ;)
07/6/05 19:33:27 Tony__IL: I figured that out on my own
07/6/05 19:33:33 Jana_in_Indiana: :P
07/6/05 19:34:18 Tony__IL: still no babies from the leaves you sent. Maybe I should have wacked off the tops.
07/6/05 19:34:23 Jana_in_Indiana: does Cheryl have a topic for tonight?
07/6/05 19:34:40 Jana_in_Indiana: could do it now, mught scare them into making babies, LOL
07/6/05 19:34:45 Jana_in_Indiana: might*
07/6/05 19:34:45 Tony__IL: not that I know of
07/6/05 19:35:16 Jana_in_Indiana: let me go see if mine have babies yet, I put the extras down, that I didn't ship out
07/6/05 19:35:28 Tony__IL: don't give her one as we won't have one for tomorrow
07/6/05 19:36:22 Tony__IL: did you figure out when to use the fish emulsion vs the kelp/seaweed extract?
07/6/05 19:36:57 Jana_in_Indiana: yup, I see tiny green leaves, but I need to water them after chat
07/6/05 19:37:11 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, do we have a topic for tomorrow?
07/6/05 19:37:29 Tony__IL: not that I gave out?
07/6/05 19:37:34 Jana_in_Indiana: oh!  I meant to send you those files about additives & amendments
07/6/05 19:38:39 Tony__IL: how about variegated vs. greens and what you have to do different?
07/6/05 19:39:35 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, I suck at that!  I do them all the same except if babies need greening up, Pat does them the same too, has variegated AV's on bottom, middle & top shelves -- everywhere
07/6/05 19:39:35 Tony__IL: lights, temps., fertilizers
07/6/05 19:40:18 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll let you decide & I'll be there to help with whatever you choose!  :)
07/6/05 19:40:25 Tony__IL: there is a lot of talk about cooler and ends of the shelves, etc.
07/6/05 19:40:58 Tony__IL: only others I had were trailers and repotting
07/6/05 19:40:59 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, do you know the secret to keeping AV's from reaching?  Please share it with me!
07/6/05 19:41:14 Jana_in_Indiana: actually it's a greenie doing it, so it'll be outta here soon!
07/6/05 19:41:46 Tony__IL: I have 4 of the celery plants on the top shelf with no artificial light and not much change after 2 weeks
07/6/05 19:42:21 Tony__IL: might try them about 2" away from the lights and see what they do
07/6/05 19:42:23 Jana_in_Indiana: I think it's genetic with celery, might be genetic with others too!
07/6/05 19:42:36 Jana_in_Indiana: have you ever ordered from Linda Rowe, Blooming Jungle?
07/6/05 19:43:15 Tony__IL: yes, on eBay. Got a chimera, but didn't bloom true. Waiting to see what it does the 2nd time.
07/6/05 19:43:39 Tony__IL: she has a good reputation.
07/6/05 19:43:43 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that's not good!  How was her packing, quality, etc?
07/6/05 19:44:02 Tony__IL: very good
07/6/05 19:44:24 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks, she has a sale going on, basically it's 75 cents a leaf
07/6/05 19:44:32 Tony__IL: can tell it ain't her first time LOL
07/6/05 19:44:51 Tony__IL: heck 75 is pretty cheap!
07/6/05 19:45:01 Jana_in_Indiana: yes!  I think so too!
07/6/05 19:45:26 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll send you the e-mail
07/6/05 19:45:37 Tony__IL: I don't think she jabbed you on the shipping either.
07/6/05 19:45:47 Tony__IL: OK on the e-mail
07/6/05 19:45:56 Jana_in_Indiana: good!  I really hate it when they do that!
07/6/05 19:46:46 Jana_in_Indiana: I know it's sometimes hard to guess the exact cost of shhipping, but to be charged 2 or 3 times the cost really burns me!
07/6/05 19:47:01 Tony__IL: got that right
07/6/05 19:47:42 Tony__IL: I could buy a scale that is electronic and up to 10# but don't think I want to spend $40 for it
07/6/05 19:47:58 Jana_in_Indiana: from the PO?
07/6/05 19:48:15 Tony__IL: yes, accurate to 0.01
07/6/05 19:48:36 Jana_in_Indiana: the one I bought at Meijer (Walmart also has it) has been right on the money every time
07/6/05 19:48:53 Tony__IL: heck, let them weigh it. I'm not going to prepay the postage
07/6/05 19:48:54 Jana_in_Indiana: think it was 20 or 25 bucks, does oz & grams
07/6/05 19:49:15 Tony__IL: think they have another model like up to 5#
07/6/05 19:49:27 Jana_in_Indiana: but I need to tell the people how much the shipping cost is so they can pay me before I send it out
07/6/05 19:49:42 Jana_in_Indiana: for the supplies
07/6/05 19:50:25 Tony__IL: can you take a sample box down to the PO and have them weight it, then go to the web site and get the postage?
07/6/05 19:51:09 Tony__IL: if you off a buck or so, I don't think you will get any gripes
07/6/05 19:51:58 Tony__IL: but if it $3.65 and you charge 7 that's different
07/6/05 19:52:38 Jana_in_Indiana: right!  So far it been exactly the same when I weigh & figure it here, as when the PO does it
07/6/05 19:53:23 Tony__IL: also distance is a factor, like to me vs. CA I think would be different
07/6/05 19:53:40 Jana_in_Indiana: or like that one gal did me, charged almost $15 for $6.66 in actual postage!  GGGRRRRR!
07/6/05 19:54:05 Tony__IL: right, not that is price gouging LOL
07/6/05 19:54:09 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, I always put in the weight & zip code when figuring it at www.usps.gov
07/6/05 19:54:41 Tony__IL: where is everyone at?
07/6/05 19:54:53 Cheryl-TX Logs in [68.94.28.87]
07/6/05 19:55:00 Tony__IL: guess it's still early
07/6/05 19:55:01 Jana_in_Indiana: & all those plants were trashed, just plopped in the bottom of a box, toss in shredded paper -- scrawney little plants to begin with!
07/6/05 19:55:06 Tony__IL: Hi Cheryl
07/6/05 19:55:07 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Cheryl!
07/6/05 19:55:40 Cheryl-TX: Hello all!
07/6/05 19:56:00 Tony__IL: what's new down south tonite?
07/6/05 19:56:24 Cheryl-TX: not much, did someone lose some plants?
07/6/05 19:56:44 Tony__IL: not lately
07/6/05 19:57:18 Jana_in_Indiana: naw, we were bashing people that charge double for shipping, it was last fall for me
07/6/05 19:57:28 Jana_in_Indiana: or triple!
07/6/05 19:57:48 Cheryl-TX: ok all i could see on my screen was ... and all those plants got trashed .... scrqwney little plant ot begin with
07/6/05 19:58:07 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, well... they were!
07/6/05 19:58:18 Tony__IL: bad shipping techniques me thinks
07/6/05 19:58:26 Cheryl-TX: did you get bad plants?
07/6/05 19:58:30 Jana_in_Indiana: & bad growing too, LOL
07/6/05 19:58:38 Jana_in_Indiana: I did, last fall
07/6/05 19:59:22 Cheryl-TX: sometimes they are too small to make the journey
07/6/05 20:00:03 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, but when you just sit them in the bottom of a big box & dump in paper & peanuts, they don't have much of a chance to begin with
07/6/05 20:00:03 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.157.151.235]
07/6/05 20:00:08 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sherry!
07/6/05 20:00:18 sherry__(Mo): Hi Cheryl, Jana, and Tony!!
07/6/05 20:00:21 Tony__IL: just waiting for you leaves to do something, Cheryl. But it's only been a couple weeks
07/6/05 20:00:29 Tony__IL: Hi Sherry
07/6/05 20:01:22 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl, I think a few of the ones you sent me are rooting, in spite of sitting in 90 degrees all day!
07/6/05 20:01:26 Cheryl-TX: yes Tony it will be a couple of weeks more before any thing pops i bet
07/6/05 20:01:28 Nik_MI Logs in [69.222.65.196]
07/6/05 20:01:40 Nik_MI: hi everyone
07/6/05 20:01:43 Tony__IL: Hey Nik
07/6/05 20:01:48 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Nik!
07/6/05 20:02:20 sherry__(Mo): Hi Nik
07/6/05 20:02:32 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, I sent the box to Sweden yesterday, 18 Buckeye leaves, all different
07/6/05 20:02:45 Cheryl-TX: It is always a mystery to me why some times leaves make it and sometimes they don't
07/6/05 20:03:12 Cheryl-TX: You are the buckeye queen Jana
07/6/05 20:03:27 sherry__(Mo): Yep she is!
07/6/05 20:03:28 Jana_in_Indiana: I know why some of these didn't STUPID MAILMAN!  Set on porch & didn't even knock, it was 94 degrees!
07/6/05 20:03:31 Tony__IL: Did you e-mail her and let her know they're coming. Bet she will just cr_p when she open the box LOL
07/6/05 20:03:34 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, thanks!
07/6/05 20:04:06 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, I did e-mail her, but no reply yet, sent it Monday evening
07/6/05 20:04:56 Jana_in_Indiana: her temps are around 70, mine this week in the 80's, but next week till August or Sept will be too hot, so figured now or wait till fall
07/6/05 20:05:33 Tony__IL: personally think it the temp variation. I has 6 leaves just stuck in the drawer. Planted one on the 1 st day, etc. and another set dipped in something different, wrapped, etc and no diff
07/6/05 20:05:38 Jana_in_Indiana: T, does Blooming Jungle insulate against heat?  Don't want a box of mush!
07/6/05 20:05:40 Cheryl-TX: you never know
07/6/05 20:06:05 Cheryl-TX: i sent millie some once in late spring and they froze
07/6/05 20:06:14 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, I agree T, temps are our biggest factor
07/6/05 20:06:18 Tony__IL: not sure if they did or not J
07/6/05 20:06:23 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks
07/6/05 20:07:07 Tony__IL: would like to know where Bloomlovers got the sytrofoam and how they cut it. Tina's stuff always got here
07/6/05 20:08:24 Tony__IL: 1/2" foam on all the sides
07/6/05 20:08:34 Janis_in_Okla Logs in [70.241.54.13]
07/6/05 20:08:34 Jana_in_Indiana: I did the same thing with Sophies box T, just got the sheets at Lowes, cut to fit w/ Xacto knife, scoring the foam & bend & snaps apart
07/6/05 20:08:42 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Janis!
07/6/05 20:08:44 Tony__IL: Hi Janis
07/6/05 20:08:47 Janis_in_Okla: Hi  Everyone  :)
07/6/05 20:08:49 Nik_MI: hi
07/6/05 20:08:56 sherry__(Mo): Hi Janis!
07/6/05 20:09:02 Janis_in_Okla: I'm ready to discover.  LOL
07/6/05 20:09:09 Jana_in_Indiana: and I asked her to save the box & packing so she can send mine in the same thing
07/6/05 20:09:18 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
07/6/05 20:09:33 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Cheryl, what will we discover tonight?
07/6/05 20:09:40 Janis_in_Okla: :)
07/6/05 20:09:42 Tony__IL: right LOL Better than the 1 I got but did get here OK
07/6/05 20:10:06 Cheryl-TX: well i am wonder who is hybridizing
07/6/05 20:10:13 goj62_(Judi) Logs in [172.132.253.220]
07/6/05 20:10:17 Nik_MI: I want to... eventually :P
07/6/05 20:10:19 Jana_in_Indiana: T - just ask for styrofoam insulation at hardward, it's lots cheaper than craft stores
07/6/05 20:10:19 Tony__IL: not me, yet
07/6/05 20:10:22 sherry__(Mo): Hi Judi!
07/6/05 20:10:24 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Judi!
07/6/05 20:10:28 Nik_MI: it'll probably be a year before i can even start though
07/6/05 20:10:33 Tony__IL: OK, Ja na
07/6/05 20:10:38 Janis_in_Okla: I have been hoping for a new shipment of violets at Walmart.  So far they haven't gotten any or else they sold them all.  :(
07/6/05 20:10:39 sherry__(Mo): I'd love to but don't have the time or room right now
07/6/05 20:11:12 goj62_(Judi): hi you,ll
07/6/05 20:11:19 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/6/05 20:11:20 Tony__IL: have you been in the group for 3 months, Janis?
07/6/05 20:11:26 Jana_in_Indiana: when I was a Lowes, they has a new shipment, still in the boxes, standards, 1 variegated & a box full of minis!
07/6/05 20:11:27 Cheryl-TX: what about getting one of those small very small syrofom coolers?
07/6/05 20:11:28 Janis_in_Okla: No not yet  :(
07/6/05 20:11:42 Janis_in_Okla: I am waiting and trying to be good.  LOL
07/6/05 20:11:56 Tony__IL: hi Judi
07/6/05 20:11:57 sherry__(Mo): ahhh-you don
07/6/05 20:12:02 Jana_in_Indiana: the sheets are lots cheaper Cheryl
07/6/05 20:12:04 Nik_MI: haha I know the feeling... just checked to see how long I've been in the group... less than a month
07/6/05 20:12:09 goj62_(Judi): on wal mart  pretty and I do buy than but I wish they would print name where you could make it out
07/6/05 20:12:09 Nik_MI: I was sure it was more than that
07/6/05 20:12:19 Janis_in_Okla: yep me too Nik
07/6/05 20:12:52 Janis_in_Okla: I don't recall what day I started
07/6/05 20:12:55 Janis_in_Okla: for sure
07/6/05 20:12:56 Cheryl-TX: I got some the other day in the styrofoam cup and then they had used insulation wrapped around the cup to stablize it
07/6/05 20:13:00 Tony__IL: maybe we should work out a CARE package anyway to keep you busy LOL
07/6/05 20:13:08 Janis_in_Okla: Friday is my birthday
07/6/05 20:13:14 sherry__(Mo): well the weather will be better to ship when you do get your 3 months in!
07/6/05 20:13:18 Nik_MI: happy birthday!
07/6/05 20:13:25 Janis_in_Okla: I am hoping my kids will get me violets  LOL
07/6/05 20:13:26 Jana_in_Indiana: Millie asked me to take over STJ for a while for her, once I get Rachel's approval I'll post to the group & get it going again
07/6/05 20:13:27 Tony__IL: well, that's a good enough reason. LOL
07/6/05 20:13:29 sherry__(Mo): Happy Happy!!
07/6/05 20:13:29 Janis_in_Okla: thank you Nik
07/6/05 20:13:32 Nik_MI: lol lol lol
07/6/05 20:13:39 Janis_in_Okla: awww thank you sherry
07/6/05 20:13:52 Jana_in_Indiana: Happy Birthday, early!
07/6/05 20:13:55 Janis_in_Okla: I told hubby I wanted a plant stand
07/6/05 20:13:58 sherry__(Mo): Jana-like you don't already have enoughto do!
07/6/05 20:14:00 goj62_(Judi): HAPPY BIRTHDAY HOPE YOU HAVE ABOUT 100 MORE
07/6/05 20:14:10 Janis_in_Okla: I am getting everything covered  LOL
07/6/05 20:14:13 sherry__(Mo): Just one Janis? LOL
07/6/05 20:14:29 Janis_in_Okla: Wheew not me goj  that would make me 151.  LOL
07/6/05 20:14:33 Jana_in_Indiana: it's won't be a problem sherry, just sending a few e-mails, not like reading hundreds of posts, LOL!
07/6/05 20:14:39 Tony__IL: what are the temps in OK
07/6/05 20:14:44 Tony__IL: land
07/6/05 20:14:45 Cheryl-TX: look for used plant stands and see if you can get one that way
07/6/05 20:14:46 Janis_in_Okla: for now just one would make me happy  LOL
07/6/05 20:15:19 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, that's all you need, just 1 this month, 1 more next month, 1 more.....
07/6/05 20:15:32 Janis_in_Okla: its 85 right now.  it is suppose to be 91 tomorrow
07/6/05 20:15:42 sherry__(Mo): I got the last stand for 10.00-50 is the most I've paid for a used stand
07/6/05 20:15:47 Janis_in_Okla: Cheryl thats a good idea
07/6/05 20:15:48 Tony__IL: Nik, where are you at?
07/6/05 20:15:49 Cheryl-TX: I got two flora carts this week from two sisters that have decided they are not violet people
07/6/05 20:16:02 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.138.20]
07/6/05 20:16:03 Janis_in_Okla: cool
07/6/05 20:16:05 sherry__(Mo): Neat Cheryl!
07/6/05 20:16:07 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Clare!
07/6/05 20:16:07 Janis_in_Okla: Hi Clare
07/6/05 20:16:11 Tony__IL: hi ya Clare
07/6/05 20:16:12 sherry__(Mo): Hi Clare!!
07/6/05 20:16:14 Clare_KS: Hi All :)
07/6/05 20:16:25 Cheryl-TX: I paid 150 for both carts one a 16 tray and one a 12 tray
07/6/05 20:16:28 Nik_MI: you mean like michigan?
07/6/05 20:16:28 Clare_KS: Sherry, are shorts ok for tomorrow? Or are we going formal?
07/6/05 20:16:34 Tony__IL: right place, right time, Cheryl
07/6/05 20:16:38 Nik_MI: or like why am i not saying anything? :D
07/6/05 20:16:41 Janis_in_Okla: carts sounds neat
07/6/05 20:16:53 Nik_MI: i'm just kind of reading for now... not a whole lot to ask or say yet
07/6/05 20:16:56 sherry__(Mo): Shoerts are fine-if wego formal-I can't go-LOL
07/6/05 20:17:03 Clare_KS: oh good :)
07/6/05 20:17:16 Tony__IL: what state do you live in Nik?
07/6/05 20:17:17 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
07/6/05 20:17:19 Nik_MI: michigan
07/6/05 20:17:22 Janis_in_Okla: Since I live in Oklahoma I sometimes think of starting to collect violets that have Oklahoma in their names
07/6/05 20:17:24 Janis_in_Okla: lol
07/6/05 20:17:30 sherry__(Mo): Are you and Barb ridding together Clare?
07/6/05 20:17:38 Clare_KS: No, Sherry
07/6/05 20:17:40 Nik_MI: it was in the 90s for about the past 2 weeks, but its down to high 70s for now
07/6/05 20:17:43 Jana_in_Indiana: which Barb?
07/6/05 20:17:45 Janis_in_Okla: I can't believe all the violets named after states
07/6/05 20:17:50 sherry__(Mo): Do you know how to get there?
07/6/05 20:18:00 Clare_KS: Yes, Sherry
07/6/05 20:18:03 sherry__(Mo): Great!
07/6/05 20:18:21 Clare_KS: Harry said 70 east will get me there, is that right?
07/6/05 20:18:26 Jana_in_Indiana: there's always www.mapquest.com for any m,aps or directions needed
07/6/05 20:18:39 Cheryl-TX: can i come too?
07/6/05 20:18:45 Jana_in_Indiana: me too?
07/6/05 20:18:52 Clare_KS: Jana, we have a lot of road closings, that's why I'm asking her :)
07/6/05 20:18:54 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll need an early flight, LOL
07/6/05 20:18:56 sherry__(Mo): I think-do what Jana said though-I don't know my way around very well
07/6/05 20:18:59 Clare_KS: Cheryl, come on!!
07/6/05 20:19:07 Cheryl-TX: if we start now
07/6/05 20:19:26 Clare_KS: In fact, I had to turn around and go all the way back to work and start over tonight to get home :(
07/6/05 20:19:26 sherry__(Mo): How many seats shall we reserve-LOL
07/6/05 20:19:48 Cheryl-TX: well first where are we going
07/6/05 20:19:48 sherry__(Mo): I wish we all could get together-
07/6/05 20:19:49 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks anyway, but after the traveling this past weekend, I'll stay home & do nothing
07/6/05 20:20:06 Clare_KS: ahhh, Jana, we were counting on you!!
07/6/05 20:20:16 sherry__(Mo): Applebee's at the Blue Ridge Mall and then to Sue Hills house to see her AV's
07/6/05 20:20:44 Clare_KS: But first, I'm sleeping in!!
07/6/05 20:20:47 sherry__(Mo): Cheryl-I can't bring them here! It's such a mess with the kids living here!
07/6/05 20:20:47 Jana_in_Indiana: OMG!  AV Show N' Tell?  I'm so jealous!  Take cameras & lots of photos please?
07/6/05 20:20:52 Clare_KS: Two 12 hour days in a row has me beat.
07/6/05 20:21:04 Clare_KS: Will do, Jana ;)
07/6/05 20:21:17 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks! ;)
07/6/05 20:21:21 Cheryl-TX: that sounds like fun,
07/6/05 20:21:32 sherry__(Mo): Oh Jana, I'll have to see if I can get some of Sue's pictures-she has some great ones
07/6/05 20:21:33 Cheryl-TX: how far is everyone traveling?
07/6/05 20:21:52 Clare_KS: about 40 minutes for me.
07/6/05 20:21:56 Jana_in_Indiana: just kitchen to bedroom,  :O
07/6/05 20:22:04 sherry__(Mo): Barb and Clare are in Kansas
07/6/05 20:22:04 Cheryl-TX: lol
07/6/05 20:22:07 sherry__(Mo): LOL Jana
07/6/05 20:22:25 Clare_KS: yeah, we're going allllll the way to Missouri to see Sherry!!
07/6/05 20:22:44 sherry__(Mo): Come on-just close your euyes when you come to the door!
07/6/05 20:23:01 Clare_KS: My Mom gets a kick out of that when she comes...can we go over to Missouri for lunch?? she asks.
07/6/05 20:23:19 sherry__(Mo): And don't trip over the kids and cars!
07/6/05 20:23:30 sherry__(Mo): Bring her along Clare
07/6/05 20:23:33 Clare_KS: My living room looks like a pre-school.
07/6/05 20:23:42 Clare_KS: She's in Pennsylvania, Sherry
07/6/05 20:23:49 sherry__(Mo): Next time-LOL
07/6/05 20:24:19 Clare_KS: She'd write a story about violets...
07/6/05 20:24:23 Janis_in_Okla: does Walt ever come to chat?
07/6/05 20:24:23 Clare_KS: she's a journalist :)
07/6/05 20:24:32 Janis_in_Okla: He has some really beautiful violets
07/6/05 20:24:39 sherry__(Mo): He was here last night and Sunday night
07/6/05 20:24:49 Janis_in_Okla: Ohhhh I must have missed him
07/6/05 20:25:15 sherry__(Mo): He doesn't usually stay long when he does come-I think he has to get up early
07/6/05 20:25:21 Janis_in_Okla: who was it that had the Rocky Mountain violet?  It was really neat.
07/6/05 20:25:32 Janis_in_Okla: ohhh I understand
07/6/05 20:25:51 Janis_in_Okla: sometimes I forget until after an hour and I probably miss a lot
07/6/05 20:26:12 sherry__(Mo): what is tonights topic Cheryl?
07/6/05 20:26:58 Jana_in_Indiana: is this it?  Optimara Rocky Mountain (6593) 05/25/1987 (Holtkamp) Single-semidouble white/red-purple center, edge. Dark green, plain, wavy. Standard
07/6/05 20:27:12 Cheryl-TX: I wanted to talk a bit about hybridizing
07/6/05 20:27:29 Cheryl-TX: but i am haveing a hard time spelling it
07/6/05 20:27:30 Jana_in_Indiana: great!
07/6/05 20:27:42 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL we all do!
07/6/05 20:27:58 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/6/05 20:28:02 Jana_in_Indiana: so, call it H-ing!
07/6/05 20:28:11 Janis_in_Okla: yes that sounds like it Jana.  Someone has that one and was talking about it.  When I looked it up I thought it was breathtaking
07/6/05 20:28:12 Cheryl-TX: It is such a long process it has to be well thought out
07/6/05 20:28:32 Jana_in_Indiana: please tell us how?
07/6/05 20:28:49 Jana_in_Indiana: to make sure it's well thought out that is
07/6/05 20:29:09 Cheryl-TX: Your leaf come from the the plant u are using a the female
07/6/05 20:29:47 Cheryl-TX: so if youare trying for white variegation you need to pollinate to a white variegated plant
07/6/05 20:30:13 Cheryl-TX: and bloom seems to come from the pollen donor
07/6/05 20:30:33 Cheryl-TX: of think about you dream plant, what would you want
07/6/05 20:30:41 Jana_in_Indiana: so make sure the traits you want most are posessed by the momma plant?
07/6/05 20:30:55 Jana_in_Indiana: for the leaveS?
07/6/05 20:31:44 Tony__IL: right J
07/6/05 20:31:51 Cheryl-TX: I did a cross last week using apache freedom and splatter kate
07/6/05 20:32:22 Cheryl-TX: i love  both of those plants
07/6/05 20:32:54 sherry__(Mo): I hope it took!
07/6/05 20:33:10 Nik_MI: whoa... just found a site that says fantasy patterns are dominant over solid color...
07/6/05 20:33:16 Cheryl-TX: me too
07/6/05 20:33:18 Nik_MI: that's seems weird to me
07/6/05 20:33:30 Nik_MI: good luck from me too :D
07/6/05 20:33:42 Cheryl-TX: but i was worried about the pollen in splatter kake
07/6/05 20:33:54 Jana_in_Indiana: Jeff Smith's dominant & recessive traits are in the files for all to use
07/6/05 20:34:11 sherry__(Mo): I've got my notes from Jeff Smith somewhere-but wouldn't know where to look right now
07/6/05 20:34:14 Cheryl-TX: it did now seem like there was much pollen and also the color was very pale
07/6/05 20:35:10 Cheryl-TX: i love standards, but it will take so much room to grow out and also so much time
07/6/05 20:35:19 Jana_in_Indiana: also the chat log from him being guest speaker is in the files, he covered lots of stuff
07/6/05 20:35:23 Cheryl-TX: you must go three generations
07/6/05 20:35:41 Jana_in_Indiana: if you don't know, Dr. J. Smith is the geneticist for AVSA
07/6/05 20:35:52 sherry__(Mo): I bet the cht with Tina is in the files too, isn't it Jana?
07/6/05 20:36:10 Janis_in_Okla: thank you Jana.  I was wondering
07/6/05 20:36:12 Jana_in_Indiana: yup!  Her's was about hybridizing too!
07/6/05 20:36:36 Jana_in_Indiana: welocme Janis
07/6/05 20:36:45 sherry__(Mo): Tina does wasps-for those yhat aren't familiar with her
07/6/05 20:36:56 Jana_in_Indiana: & she's a moderator on VR
07/6/05 20:37:08 Jana_in_Indiana: sells on ebay as gecko2T
07/6/05 20:37:48 Cheryl-TX: yes she know her stuff
07/6/05 20:37:59 Cheryl-TX: and she is selling her hybrid
07/6/05 20:38:18 sherry__(Mo): Great!
07/6/05 20:38:20 Jana_in_Indiana: they're new releases
07/6/05 20:38:55 Cheryl-TX: We have a lot of good growers on the list
07/6/05 20:39:23 Cheryl-TX: brb
07/6/05 20:42:06 Cheryl-TX: i am  back
07/6/05 20:42:30 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): I just talked to Barb...she's driving us. 
07/6/05 20:42:40 Cheryl-TX: mom on phone and she doesn't hear i will call back  later
07/6/05 20:42:51 Janis_in_Okla: we didn't get far Cheryl  LOL
07/6/05 20:43:02 Cheryl-TX: no, LOL
07/6/05 20:43:47 Janis_in_Okla: everyone must have taken a bathroom break
07/6/05 20:43:55 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: good!-sorry-I'd ran in the other room for a minute!
07/6/05 20:43:59 Cheryl-TX: yes that is it
07/6/05 20:44:09 Janis_in_Okla: come to think of it....I need to also  LOL
07/6/05 20:44:13 Cheryl-TX: my mom may have called them too
07/6/05 20:44:16 Jana_in_Indiana: isn't that what 'BRB' means?  BathRoom Break?  LOL
07/6/05 20:44:17 Tony__IL: did Judi, Nik Janis or Clare have anything they needed to ask?
07/6/05 20:44:31 Nik_MI: not really right now
07/6/05 20:44:43 Cheryl-TX: Jana, Tony what did you think of my strep leaf?
07/6/05 20:44:49 Clare_KS > sherry__(Mo): I'm exhausted...going to bed :) see you tomorrow
07/6/05 20:44:56 Jana_in_Indiana: I thought it was wonderful!
07/6/05 20:44:58 Clare_KS Logs Out
07/6/05 20:45:00 sherry__(Mo) > Clare_KS: ok!! I can't wait!
07/6/05 20:45:03 Cheryl-TX: the keikigrow worked, but no roots
07/6/05 20:45:06 Tony__IL: the Keiki grow one, pretty cool
07/6/05 20:45:10 goj62_(Judi): no just reading trying to learn more
07/6/05 20:45:12 Jana_in_Indiana: you & that Keiki grow are dangerous!  LOL
07/6/05 20:45:35 Jana_in_Indiana: just let them grow till big enough to start as you would suckers
07/6/05 20:45:49 Janis_in_Okla: Not I on questions
07/6/05 20:45:51 Jana_in_Indiana: or put in a large shallow pot & pile soil up to them?
07/6/05 20:46:34 Cheryl-TX: there are tons more coming up on the stem
07/6/05 20:47:00 Cheryl-TX: i think i will try to plck off babies as they mature
07/6/05 20:47:15 Jana_in_Indiana: I had an AV leaf do that, & the babies sent roots out & down into the soil -- it was 1 inch below them!  So, I added some soil to help
07/6/05 20:47:48 Cheryl-TX: isn't this a fun hobby
07/6/05 20:47:55 Jana_in_Indiana: sure is!
07/6/05 20:47:57 Nik_MI: haha no kidding!
07/6/05 20:47:57 Janis_in_Okla: yes it is Cheryl
07/6/05 20:48:13 Nik_MI: sounds great... i looked a bit for strep stuff
07/6/05 20:48:17 Jana_in_Indiana: there's a photo of it in my album, I think I named it 'silly leaf' or something like that
07/6/05 20:48:25 Nik_MI: didnt find a lot, but didnt look really hard either
07/6/05 20:48:35 Nik_MI: where's your album again?
07/6/05 20:48:51 Jana_in_Indiana: http://community.webshots.com/user/janainindiana
07/6/05 20:49:16 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl's is: http://community.webshots.com/user/ritabelew
07/6/05 20:49:42 Nik_MI: whoa... THAT looks odd
07/6/05 20:49:51 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL!
07/6/05 20:50:10 Jana_in_Indiana: might be that radioactive dump I live near?
07/6/05 20:50:29 Jana_in_Indiana: just kidding, I live near a state park!  ;)
07/6/05 20:50:30 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/6/05 20:51:00 Jana_in_Indiana: the babies formed where the petiole joined the leaf
07/6/05 20:51:13 Janis_in_Okla: oh Jana I browsed your album today and really enjoyed it
07/6/05 20:51:30 Jana_in_Indiana: pretty much like your Cheryl, but the petiole isn't nearly as long & didn't use keiki grow
07/6/05 20:51:37 sherry__(Mo): jana and Cheryl both have great albums
07/6/05 20:51:38 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Janis!
07/6/05 20:51:56 Cheryl-TX: well what causes that?
07/6/05 20:52:09 Janis_in_Okla: I'm going to look for Gel1Root
07/6/05 20:52:19 Janis_in_Okla: Gel2Root *
07/6/05 20:52:20 Jana_in_Indiana: you're the Discovery person & great experimentor!!!  You tell me!
07/6/05 20:52:22 Janis_in_Okla: LOL
07/6/05 20:52:38 Cheryl-TX: lol
07/6/05 20:52:42 Jana_in_Indiana: Janis, check out www.charleysgreenhouse.com
07/6/05 20:52:45 Cheryl-TX: don't have a clue
07/6/05 20:52:52 Jana_in_Indiana: me neither!
07/6/05 20:53:09 Jana_in_Indiana: I blame it on genetics & won't pretend to understand!
07/6/05 20:53:17 Nik_MI: cheryl? on your album did you just dice up a midnight flame leaf and put down the pieces?
07/6/05 20:53:51 Cheryl-TX: i am not anthing to night, I am suposed to have an article ready for the state av mag tommorw
07/6/05 20:53:59 Cheryl-TX: i think i have writers block
07/6/05 20:54:31 Janis_in_Okla: wow thanks for the link Jana :)
07/6/05 20:54:37 sherry__(Mo): neat Cheryl!
07/6/05 20:54:37 Cheryl-TX: and i have really tried, and just keep repotting violet and staying away from the key board
07/6/05 20:54:44 Jana_in_Indiana: here's the direct link Janis
07/6/05 20:54:47 Jana_in_Indiana: http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/index.cfm?page=_productdetails&productid=8145&cid1=-99&cid2=-99&cid3=-99
07/6/05 20:54:53 Jana_in_Indiana: welcome!
07/6/05 20:55:33 Janis_in_Okla: Ahhh thanks....I was looking and finding all kinds of things but not that one.  LOL
07/6/05 20:55:35 Jana_in_Indiana: what is the article supposed to be about Cheryl?  Maybe we can help?
07/6/05 20:56:02 Jana_in_Indiana: they call it gel propagator I think, I get the quart bottle
07/6/05 20:56:12 Cheryl-TX: why i went to judging school
07/6/05 20:56:16 Jana_in_Indiana: more economical, the 6 packs waste alot!
07/6/05 20:56:17 Cheryl-TX: or something like that
07/6/05 20:56:31 Jana_in_Indiana: ohhh!  We, why did you ?
07/6/05 20:56:32 Cheryl-TX: or why i want to be a judge
07/6/05 20:56:35 Jana_in_Indiana: well*
07/6/05 20:56:57 sherry__(Mo): for the extra knowledge maybe?
07/6/05 20:57:10 Cheryl-TX: cause you got to be with some really great growers and it was like having a cheat sheet
07/6/05 20:57:12 Jana_in_Indiana: just tell them it's an ego trip & you want to be the boss of everything!   lol  *)
07/6/05 20:57:20 sherry__(Mo): LOL
07/6/05 20:57:49 Jana_in_Indiana: you KNOW I'm kidding Cheryl!  ;)
07/6/05 20:58:01 sherry__(Mo): Linda Golubski did an article about judging species-I'll send it to you Cheryl-when I ever run across it!
07/6/05 20:58:27 Shellie_CA Logs in [172.194.12.188]
07/6/05 20:58:32 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Shellie!
07/6/05 20:58:35 Cheryl-TX: it  is an ego trip but in reverse, you relize little  you know
07/6/05 20:58:41 Tony__IL: well we all should be able to tell the diff between an A plant and the F plants but how about the A vs B plant?
07/6/05 20:58:43 Janis_in_Okla: Hi Shellie
07/6/05 20:58:50 Tony__IL: hi Shellie
07/6/05 20:58:54 Shellie_CA: Hi Everyone
07/6/05 20:59:11 Cheryl-TX: hi shellie
07/6/05 20:59:13 sherry__(Mo): Hi Shellie
07/6/05 20:59:15 Jana_in_Indiana: youo couldn't pay me to be a judge, of anything!  Well, maybe my own cooking! LOL
07/6/05 20:59:19 Nik_MI: hi shellie
07/6/05 20:59:34 Janis_in_Okla: LOL Jana
07/6/05 20:59:54 Cheryl-TX: my mom is on the phone again, she doesnt like who won dancing with the stars, like i could do something about it
07/6/05 21:00:11 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, go talk to her!  see you later!
07/6/05 21:00:20 Nik_MI: lol
07/6/05 21:00:47 Jana_in_Indiana: one thing I learned about judging, whether plants or animals
07/6/05 21:01:03 Cheryl-TX: no aron is talking to her he watched the show
07/6/05 21:01:17 Jana_in_Indiana: judges opinions are like noses, you would ever pick someone else's!
07/6/05 21:01:21 Janis_in_Okla: lol  Cheryl
07/6/05 21:01:40 Nik_MI: lol jana
07/6/05 21:01:57 Jana_in_Indiana: meaning , no 2 people have the same opinion of the same thing
07/6/05 21:02:14 Janis_in_Okla: yup
07/6/05 21:02:35 sherry__(Mo): Jana-you crack me up
07/6/05 21:03:07 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl, you should call Peggy in PA, she's a judge & could probably help with your article, also got BIS recently & lots of other awards
07/6/05 21:03:27 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks Sherry, but you were cracked long before you met me!  LOL
07/6/05 21:03:28 Cheryl-TX: yes and do you realize, that no matter how beautiful some plants are they could never win because they do not grow in a rosette
07/6/05 21:03:43 sherry__(Mo): LOL-got that right Jana!
07/6/05 21:03:45 Okie Logs in [68.12.244.136]
07/6/05 21:03:47 Nik_MI: hmm I'm going to be off I think.  Talk to you all later!
07/6/05 21:03:54 Tony__IL: Hi Okie Girl
07/6/05 21:03:56 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Charlene, get that order finished?
07/6/05 21:03:58 Nik_MI Logs Out
07/6/05 21:03:59 sherry__(Mo): Hi Charlene
07/6/05 21:04:15 Okie: evenin everyone ;)
07/6/05 21:04:19 Janis_in_Okla: Hi Charlene
07/6/05 21:04:33 Janis_in_Okla: :)
07/6/05 21:04:37 Okie: I'm workin on it Jana
07/6/05 21:04:38 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, cheryl, that's what people mean by a good show plant, right?
07/6/05 21:04:41 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
07/6/05 21:04:51 Janis_in_Okla: I was wondering where my Okie buddy was.  LOL
07/6/05 21:05:10 Okie: ;)
07/6/05 21:05:16 goj62_(Judi): nite all  5 a.m. comes early
07/6/05 21:05:23 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Judi!
07/6/05 21:05:24 Tony__IL: by a rosette, you mean round?
07/6/05 21:05:24 Okie: bye judi
07/6/05 21:05:26 sherry__(Mo): duh blond gal! Just kidding Charlene!
07/6/05 21:05:27 Cheryl-TX: yes, but that bothers me, i love the Dates hybrids
07/6/05 21:05:32 goj62_(Judi) Leaves Subroom
07/6/05 21:05:33 Cheryl-TX: they are so different
07/6/05 21:05:35 sherry__(Mo): Nite Judi!
07/6/05 21:05:40 Okie: ;) Sherry
07/6/05 21:05:46 Cheryl-TX: i have them because they are different
07/6/05 21:06:03 goj62_(Judi) Logs Out
07/6/05 21:06:06 Jana_in_Indiana: but can't you use certain 'tricks' to get it accomplished, I know it isn't easy, but I've read several
07/6/05 21:07:24 sherry__(Mo): maybe they should have different rules for some-that's what Linda was saying about judging species-some are known for not having many blooms and the judgges should take that into consideration
07/6/05 21:07:34 Jana_in_Indiana: I don't have any Dates hybrids, so don't know how much work it would take
07/6/05 21:07:44 Cheryl-TX: Just like with animal breeding, you have to stick to the standard
07/6/05 21:07:45 sherry__(Mo): Neither do I
07/6/05 21:08:08 Cheryl-TX: do you have purple passion
07/6/05 21:08:17 Jana_in_Indiana: but, as with animal shows, there are always new standards being introduced
07/6/05 21:08:27 Jana_in_Indiana: is it variegated?
07/6/05 21:08:51 Jana_in_Indiana: no, don't have that one
07/6/05 21:09:16 Cheryl-TX: it has the most beautiful blooms, but the stems are not strong enought to hold the bloom and they fall over
07/6/05 21:09:41 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, that's not good!
07/6/05 21:10:02 Cheryl-TX: yes standards do change,
07/6/05 21:10:20 Okie: Who has Rhapsodie Cora, (COS)sorry
07/6/05 21:10:33 Jana_in_Indiana: try adding kelp powder to the soil mix, supposed to strenghten the stalks & make larger blooms
07/6/05 21:10:56 Cheryl-TX: the blooms are large enough
07/6/05 21:11:39 Tony__IL: no Cora, just Nancy and Rosalie
07/6/05 21:11:41 Janis_in_Okla: I don't  :(
07/6/05 21:12:00 Jana_in_Indiana: but it might help with the peduncles
07/6/05 21:12:49 Jana_in_Indiana: or should that be pedicles?
07/6/05 21:13:01 Okie: Who Tony, do you have any starts going on either?
07/6/05 21:13:03 Jana_in_Indiana: heck, call them stems!  LOL
07/6/05 21:13:19 Tony__IL: think so on both
07/6/05 21:13:23 Cheryl-TX: that will do
07/6/05 21:13:29 sherry__(Mo): oh-I can understand that-LOL
07/6/05 21:13:40 Cheryl-TX: well you have to decide what you are growing for
07/6/05 21:13:54 Janis_in_Okla: Has anyone noticed the AVSA site with the pictures doesn't do some of the violets justice?
07/6/05 21:13:58 Okie: Maybe I will have something you want in trade by fall.  I love all the ones with the two color flowers
07/6/05 21:14:08 Tony__IL: been wondering that for a few weeks Cheryl
07/6/05 21:14:35 Cheryl-TX: the lighting makes all the difference
07/6/05 21:14:37 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Janis, some look pretty poor!
07/6/05 21:14:39 Tony__IL: that's a can do Okie
07/6/05 21:14:54 Okie: I will check your list Tony and email ya
07/6/05 21:14:55 Cheryl-TX: what are you growing for tony?
07/6/05 21:15:03 Jana_in_Indiana: but most make me want more!  LOL
07/6/05 21:15:30 Tony__IL: no clue Cheryl. Gotta figure that out here real quick
07/6/05 21:15:41 Jana_in_Indiana: I know why I'm growing AV's -- to keep my sanity, well........what's left of it!
07/6/05 21:15:44 sherry__(Mo): LOL-Tony
07/6/05 21:15:50 Cheryl-TX: Charlene, you had better watch out, you are getting it bad
07/6/05 21:16:10 Tony__IL: like where do I want to be in a year?? Good question
07/6/05 21:16:11 sherry__(Mo): Yep-she's hooked
07/6/05 21:16:19 Okie: I'm growing as a new addiction to take the place of all my old ones... so far so good, but just as expensive
07/6/05 21:16:53 Janis_in_Okla: yes I found that out today....this picture of Rocky mountain looks so so......  http://www.avsa.org/Photographs/OptimaraRockyMountainLrg.jpg
07/6/05 21:17:05 Okie: Can you tell me what kind of flowers say like the Cora is called, so can put that on my want list as my favorite?
07/6/05 21:17:25 Jana_in_Indiana: Rhapsodie Cora (8983) 01/31/2001 (Holtkamp) Single-semidouble white frilled/dark purple patches. Medium-dark green, pointed, glossy, hairy, scalloped. Standard
07/6/05 21:17:36 Janis_in_Okla: But this one is breathtaking.....   http://www.optimara.com/optimarafieldguide/varietiesm-z/rockymountain.html
07/6/05 21:18:02 Cheryl-TX: well where do  you want to be
07/6/05 21:18:08 Okie: So, if that type of two toned flower is my favorite how would I explain that on my want list?
07/6/05 21:18:15 Jana_in_Indiana: Janis, the grower always tries to get a photo that makes it look better than it might really be, it sells more!
07/6/05 21:18:36 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, you mean thumb-prints?
07/6/05 21:18:39 Janis_in_Okla: so maybe its not that pretty?
07/6/05 21:19:05 Jana_in_Indiana: it can be, just depends on the growing conditions
07/6/05 21:19:19 Janis_in_Okla: Hmmm , OK  :)
07/6/05 21:19:26 Okie: Maybe, I guess I just need to research all the ones I really want and see if there is a common denominator to them.
07/6/05 21:19:30 Jana_in_Indiana: Cheryl, remember when you told us about the project plants, all looked different?
07/6/05 21:19:49 Jana_in_Indiana: but we exact same variety?
07/6/05 21:20:07 Cheryl-TX: yes i remember
07/6/05 21:20:08 Jana_in_Indiana: were*
07/6/05 21:20:15 Jana_in_Indiana: please explain?
07/6/05 21:20:29 sherry__(Mo): yes-the growing conditions make a difference!
07/6/05 21:20:46 Cheryl-TX: do you mean why were they different?
07/6/05 21:20:51 Jana_in_Indiana: yes
07/6/05 21:21:29 Cheryl-TX: different growing conditions
07/6/05 21:21:43 Jana_in_Indiana: do you have photos of them?
07/6/05 21:21:52 Cheryl-TX: some hybridizers cant grow their own hybrids
07/6/05 21:22:04 Tony__IL: like I think you sent me Flair of Chacago, but mine never got that white
07/6/05 21:22:24 Jana_in_Indiana: why?
07/6/05 21:22:39 Cheryl-TX: that is right
07/6/05 21:23:03 Cheryl-TX: pH, water, fertilizer, temperatrue, and etc
07/6/05 21:23:39 Cheryl-TX: i  am trying to grow warmer
07/6/05 21:24:04 sherry__(Mo): why Cheryl?
07/6/05 21:24:05 Cheryl-TX: i think one of the reasons i some times get tight plants is becasue it is too cold
07/6/05 21:24:12 sherry__(Mo): ohhh
07/6/05 21:24:29 sherry__(Mo): what temperature do you grow at?
07/6/05 21:24:43 Cheryl-TX: my plants grew best in the laundry room, but they out grew it
07/6/05 21:25:59 Cheryl-TX: 65
07/6/05 21:26:09 Cheryl-TX: but i am up to 68now
07/6/05 21:26:27 Cheryl-TX: i am doing it slow, so i won' t get culture gaps
07/6/05 21:26:38 Cheryl-TX: i want to get to 75
07/6/05 21:26:48 Janis_in_Okla: I would be shivering in 65 all the time
07/6/05 21:27:27 Okie: I would be in heaven at 65 all year, but who can afford that in OK? LOL
07/6/05 21:27:57 Janis_in_Okla: you wouldn't be chilling Charlene?
07/6/05 21:28:27 Janis_in_Okla: I don't think its any easier in Texas.  That can be a hot state too
07/6/05 21:28:42 Okie: No way, I keep it at 62 in the winter and wear tank tops  :p
07/6/05 21:28:47 sherry__(Mo): I'd be wearing my sweaters in the summer!
07/6/05 21:28:49 Cheryl-TX: well it is just in one room, it is like raising chinchillas
07/6/05 21:29:12 Okie: Wow Cheryl, how big is the room
07/6/05 21:29:20 Okie: and how do you keep it alone that temp?
07/6/05 21:29:22 Jana_in_Indiana: do they grow slower at 68 cheryl?
07/6/05 21:29:30 Janis_in_Okla: LOL  oh wow.  Charlene are you hot flashing with Menopause?  LOL
07/6/05 21:29:33 Cheryl-TX: i have a window unit in here
07/6/05 21:29:38 sherry__(Mo): LOL-Janis
07/6/05 21:29:57 Cheryl-TX: yes slower,
07/6/05 21:30:04 Okie: Peri,PLEASE I'm old but not quite there yet  :?
07/6/05 21:30:27 Janis_in_Okla: Ohhh lucky you......I have been there.
07/6/05 21:30:30 Okie: Do you have central everywhere else Cheryl?
07/6/05 21:30:45 Cheryl-TX: yes
07/6/05 21:31:05 Janis_in_Okla: on hormones now to control the hot flashes and taking the darn aspirin a day and I swear its thinned my blood and made me the oppisite
07/6/05 21:31:17 Tina Logs in [67.190.123.148]
07/6/05 21:31:22 Okie: Maybe I should try asprin lOL
07/6/05 21:31:29 Okie: Hi Tina
07/6/05 21:31:31 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tina!
07/6/05 21:31:36 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tina!
07/6/05 21:31:38 Tina: Hello All
07/6/05 21:31:40 Janis_in_Okla: makes you bruise though.  does me anyway\
07/6/05 21:31:41 Cheryl-TX: this is a really good room to play violets in, it has a kitchen and a bathroom
07/6/05 21:31:45 Tina: What is the topic tonight
07/6/05 21:31:46 Tony__IL: hi Tina
07/6/05 21:31:47 Janis_in_Okla: Hey Tina!  Welcome
07/6/05 21:32:02 Tony__IL: so far aspirin and hot flashes
07/6/05 21:32:03 Jana_in_Indiana: hormones!
07/6/05 21:32:04 sherry__(Mo): you Tina-we were talking about hybridizing
07/6/05 21:32:11 Cheryl-TX: we have been waiting for you tina
07/6/05 21:32:12 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
07/6/05 21:32:14 Janis_in_Okla queries IP of Okie
07/6/05 21:32:19 Cheryl-TX: you are the guest speaker
07/6/05 21:32:22 Janis_in_Okla queries IP of Janis_in_Okla
07/6/05 21:32:22 Tina: Oh hormones had enought of that at work LOL
07/6/05 21:32:28 Tina: Ok ok sounds good
07/6/05 21:32:38 Janis_in_Okla: LOL  Tina
07/6/05 21:32:39 Tina: :D
07/6/05 21:33:00 Tina: Watcha  want to know LOL
07/6/05 21:33:13 Tony__IL: #1 reason I don't want to back to work
07/6/05 21:33:27 sherry__(Mo): how much room does your hybridizing take up Tina?
07/6/05 21:33:29 Cheryl-TX: we were talking about decisions to make about selection for hybridizing
07/6/05 21:33:52 Tina: LOL Tony
07/6/05 21:33:56 sherry__(Mo): Tony-that'a why you need to be a distributor
07/6/05 21:34:11 sherry__(Mo): and tell John what to do-LOL
07/6/05 21:34:18 Tina: Well it depends on how many seeds you end up planting at one time
07/6/05 21:34:19 Tony__IL: I'm workin' on it
07/6/05 21:34:27 Cheryl-TX: a violet distributor?
07/6/05 21:34:43 Tony__IL: Perma-nest trays
07/6/05 21:34:48 sherry__(Mo): supply distributor
07/6/05 21:35:08 Tina: My last batch I thought I planted just a few seeds from each cross and ended up potting up about 200 or more babies
07/6/05 21:35:12 Tony__IL: later, give Tina the floor
07/6/05 21:35:38 Cheryl-TX: are they standards?
07/6/05 21:35:51 Tina: let me know if you do the perma nest thing Tony
07/6/05 21:35:58 Tony__IL: Saw some of your plants on eBay Tina, give them he**
07/6/05 21:36:01 sherry__(Mo): (see Tony!!)
07/6/05 21:36:27 Tony__IL: will do Tina
07/6/05 21:37:02 Tony__IL: need to get them up to $20-$30
07/6/05 21:37:11 Tina: well right now my first batch that I am now just releasing and registering I have 6 different ones I kept our of a hundred plus babies and all the generations plus some take up about 3 shlves
07/6/05 21:37:22 Tina: LOL
07/6/05 21:37:35 sherry__(Mo): so designate a stand
07/6/05 21:37:46 Okie: Tina what is your ebay id
07/6/05 21:37:47 Tina: there were up there Tony one set of leaves went for $41.00 I nearly fell off my chair
07/6/05 21:37:54 Tina: Gecko2T
07/6/05 21:38:03 sherry__(Mo): Wow Tina-way to go!!
07/6/05 21:38:03 Tony__IL: HOLY CR_+
07/6/05 21:38:10 sherry__(Mo): LOL-Tony
07/6/05 21:38:16 Cheryl-TX: that is great tina, you have put in a lot of hard work
07/6/05 21:38:22 Tina: most went for over 30 and just one set went for like 12.00
07/6/05 21:38:26 Tina: that is what I said LOL
07/6/05 21:38:30 Jana_in_Indiana: that's wonderful Tina!
07/6/05 21:38:35 Jana_in_Indiana: you deserve it!
07/6/05 21:38:41 Tina: I know for one that one buyer is a vendor
07/6/05 21:38:44 Tony__IL: way to go Tin A
07/6/05 21:39:03 Tina: I was very surprised at the price
07/6/05 21:39:17 Okie: What are your plants called Tina, I'm new and don't know?
07/6/05 21:39:25 Jana_in_Indiana: save up so you can go to convention!
07/6/05 21:39:34 Tina: I relisted them and will just release leave until toward the end of the season then may sell some plants
07/6/05 21:39:47 Tina: Yes very true Jana
07/6/05 21:39:54 Okie: are they your own hybrids Tina?
07/6/05 21:40:05 Jana_in_Indiana: Vespa Charlene
07/6/05 21:40:10 Okie: Thanks
07/6/05 21:40:33 Jana_in_Indiana: did I get that right Tina?
07/6/05 21:41:24 Tina: Gecko's Typsy Vespa
07/6/05 21:41:37 Cheryl-TX: when you chose which plants you would keep, what criteria did you use
07/6/05 21:41:44 Tina: Gecko's Angelic Vespa
07/6/05 21:41:54 Tina: Gecko's Lady Vespa
07/6/05 21:42:01 Tina: Vespa Sensation
07/6/05 21:42:08 Tina: Vespa Vino
07/6/05 21:42:22 Tina: Those are the five I am registering
07/6/05 21:42:33 Tony__IL: that one sounds good to me LOL
07/6/05 21:42:40 Tina: Yes Okie they are my own Hybrids
07/6/05 21:42:49 Tina: No Vespa Charlen Jana Sorry
07/6/05 21:42:55 Okie: Are these the first you have registered?
07/6/05 21:42:59 Tina: Yes
07/6/05 21:43:03 Tina: They will be
07/6/05 21:43:26 Jana_in_Indiana: no, I was telling Okie, who is Charlene, LOL
07/6/05 21:43:47 Okie: *) , they made me shorten my moniker Tina
07/6/05 21:44:22 Okie: Where are you located Tina
07/6/05 21:44:23 Tina: Cheryl  I wanted to specialize in wasps and tried to get wasps that weren't already there like most that bloomed were blue or purple and most of them got tossed.  Not to mention all the pansy blossoms
07/6/05 21:44:51 Tina: Oh I see your name is Charlene sorry  :?
07/6/05 21:45:02 Okie: No problem,
07/6/05 21:45:07 Tina: I am in Colorado Charlene
07/6/05 21:45:17 Okie: OK
07/6/05 21:45:31 Okie: go ahead I will silence myself  :p
07/6/05 21:45:31 Tina: I released a double wasp, a semidouble and 3 single wasps
07/6/05 21:45:37 Cheryl-TX: ok, so you were going for color
07/6/05 21:45:43 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony gave her the nickname of Okie, we couldn't keep typing charlene with all her questions, LOL
07/6/05 21:45:51 Tina: LOL
07/6/05 21:45:56 Okie: :p
07/6/05 21:46:03 Janis_in_Okla: lol
07/6/05 21:46:09 Tony__IL: now we got 2 of them
07/6/05 21:46:28 Janis_in_Okla: Hehehe
07/6/05 21:46:37 Tony__IL: Okie's that it
07/6/05 21:46:41 Jana_in_Indiana: but typing 'Janis' is much easier!
07/6/05 21:46:51 Janis_in_Okla: :)
07/6/05 21:47:09 Tina: Color and something different that want is out of there.  Right now I have some possible fantasy wasps in my  new batches of crosses so we will have to see how stable they are
07/6/05 21:47:28 sherry__(Mo): Good luck Tina!
07/6/05 21:47:36 Tony__IL: now that sounds cool, Tina
07/6/05 21:47:59 Cheryl-TX: do you have others help test out growing conditions for your new ones
07/6/05 21:48:00 Okie: So how much time from the beginning did these first ones take to be ready for registering?
07/6/05 21:48:17 Tina: you want to either create something different or try to improve on what is out there already.  I would like to get a trailing wasp.   True trailing that is and maybe somemore semi's and some that are symmetrical that you may even be able to show
07/6/05 21:48:50 sherry__(Mo): I hope you get a good trailng one!!
07/6/05 21:49:04 Janis_in_Okla: Good question Okie
07/6/05 21:49:17 Okie: ;)
07/6/05 21:49:40 Tina: It has been 3 years for me Charlene.  I had some delays though in getting them propogated and growing out the generations.  I think you could do it in a year or year in a half if you really pushed it
07/6/05 21:50:11 Janis_in_Okla: cool.....sounds fun
07/6/05 21:50:14 Okie: Boy, not as slow as anything is going around here I couldn't LOL
07/6/05 21:50:31 Tina: Yes looking for good trailers that I want to use as a parent now.  Want one that trails without much help.
07/6/05 21:50:33 Shellie_CA Logs Out
07/6/05 21:51:13 sherry__(Mo): Tina, do you have Pink Star Lou-it does good on it's own
07/6/05 21:51:16 Tina: it reall has been fun and very exciting to watch each seedling bloom in anticipation of what it will be
07/6/05 21:51:31 Okie: What exactly is a wasp?  I know what they look like I think but how are they discribed?
07/6/05 21:51:32 Janis_in_Okla: I wish my grandmother was alive.  She and I would have a blast ordering violets through the web.  I never thought of that before.
07/6/05 21:51:40 Tina: no never heard of it.  is it a standard or semil Sherry
07/6/05 21:52:04 sherry__(Mo): Standard I think-I know it's an old one but wins at the shows
07/6/05 21:52:35 Jana_in_Indiana: Pink Star Lou (3304) 01/23/1978 (Rienhardt) Single medium pink star. Variegated. Standard trailer
07/6/05 21:52:50 Okie: Pink Star Lou (3304) 01/23/1978 (Rienhardt) Single medium pink star. Variegated. Standard trailer
07/6/05 21:52:59 Okie: darnit Jana, you beat me LOL
07/6/05 21:53:01 Tina: For me  a true wasp has 5 deeply cut petals that are fluted or sort of rolled.  My favorite type of  wasp is the type on blue tail fly
07/6/05 21:53:03 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
07/6/05 21:53:29 Okie: Where can I see that at Tina
07/6/05 21:53:32 sherry__(Mo): I had a huge one but someone knoocked it off the shelf
07/6/05 21:53:41 Okie: :<
07/6/05 21:53:49 Tina: and a star too that may be worth trying I have to look again and see if I need to use the seed parent as a trailer to get trailers LOL
07/6/05 21:54:43 sherry__(Mo): There's a Blue Star Lou too-but I haven't been able to find it any where
07/6/05 21:55:00 Okie: Heading to bed.  Sorry I will miss out on the rest of this.  Good night everyone. ;)
07/6/05 21:55:03 Tina: Charlene I bet there is one on the AVSA sight in the photographs section or you can go to my photo album.  www.picturetrail.com/Gecko2T
07/6/05 21:55:12 Tony__IL: later Charlene
07/6/05 21:55:15 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Okie!
07/6/05 21:55:20 Tina: night charlene
07/6/05 21:55:33 Okie: Tina I will check your pic out
07/6/05 21:55:38 Okie Logs Out
07/6/05 21:55:41 sherry__(Mo): Nite Charlene
07/6/05 21:56:13 Tina: the pink would be better may get more colors other that blue and purple
07/6/05 21:56:31 sherry__(Mo): true
07/6/05 21:56:35 Janis_in_Okla: beautiful site Tina
07/6/05 21:56:36 Tony__IL: gee Cheryl, you did good on this chat for a subject.  LOL
07/6/05 21:57:19 sherry__(Mo): I can send you a start this fall Tina-if things settle down aroud here-I still have Cool Hand Pink if you still want it
07/6/05 21:58:00 Tina: thank you Janis
07/6/05 21:58:25 Cheryl-TX: Lucky tony,
07/6/05 21:58:45 Cheryl-TX: tina was the cherry on the sundae
07/6/05 21:58:46 Tina: oh yes Sherry I would love to do that I could send you some wasps or what ever in return
07/6/05 21:58:56 sherry__(Mo): That would be great!
07/6/05 21:58:58 Cheryl-TX: or icing on cake
07/6/05 21:58:58 Janis_in_Okla: wow I have something to look at all night now
07/6/05 21:59:03 Cheryl-TX: or........
07/6/05 21:59:04 Tina: LOL I am blusing
07/6/05 21:59:11 sherry__(Mo): We'll wait for September-is that ok?
07/6/05 21:59:39 Tina: yes it is best to use a trailer as the seed parent.
07/6/05 21:59:42 Janis_in_Okla: the wasps look so neat
07/6/05 21:59:48 Tina: Yes that is find sherry just let me know
07/6/05 21:59:57 sherry__(Mo): Sure will!
07/6/05 21:59:57 Tina: yes they are unique little critters
07/6/05 22:00:14 sherry__(Mo): Hopefully by then I'll have a list of what I do have Tina
07/6/05 22:00:18 Tina: cool hand pink is one I am missing LOL
07/6/05 22:00:33 Tina: I hear you there Sherry
07/6/05 22:00:35 sherry__(Mo): Well, this one has had your name on it for awhile!
07/6/05 22:00:57 Tina: I am in the processes of redoing my plant room I threw out 2 huge garbage bags full of leaves plants etc
07/6/05 22:01:03 Tina: LOL
07/6/05 22:01:11 Jana_in_Indiana: have any use for Sweet Amy Sue Tina?
07/6/05 22:01:19 Jana_in_Indiana: Sweet Amy Sue (6896) 07/13/1988 (P. Harris) Double pale pink/blue fantasy, green edge. Medium green, quilted/light green back. Standard trailer
07/6/05 22:01:19 sherry__(Mo): Oh no Tina!
07/6/05 22:01:47 Jana_in_Indiana: she has to cull Sherry!
07/6/05 22:02:00 Tony__IL: also have Colorbook Trail
07/6/05 22:02:29 sherry__(Mo): I've got that one too Tony
07/6/05 22:02:41 Jana_in_Indiana: Colorbook Trail (P. Harris) Single hot pink/variable raspberry-tipped top petals. Variegated. Standard trailer
07/6/05 22:02:43 Tina: made to mistake of trying to individually wick every plant with individual container and just couldnn't do it so going back to community wicking using my 2x4 egg crate and 4 of the 11x22 black seedling trays
07/6/05 22:02:57 sherry__(Mo): Oh-I've got to get a list made up!!
07/6/05 22:03:09 Tony__IL: did wee do a trade and I can't remember it Sherry? LOL
07/6/05 22:03:14 Tina: Do you have any semi or mini trailers Jana
07/6/05 22:03:41 sherry__(Mo): Not yet Tony-LOL
07/6/05 22:03:44 Jana_in_Indiana: no, only trailer I have is sweet amy sue & she's going out of here soon!  Got a dozen or so of her!
07/6/05 22:03:49 Cheryl-TX: that is my set up now tina
07/6/05 22:04:12 Cheryl-TX: and i have a water hose running from the sink to fill trays
07/6/05 22:04:23 Tina: They are both very pretty plants
07/6/05 22:04:32 Tony__IL: later ladies. Gotta go
07/6/05 22:04:38 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Tony!
07/6/05 22:04:39 Janis_in_Okla: nite tony
07/6/05 22:04:40 sherry__(Mo): Nite Tony
07/6/05 22:04:40 Tony__IL Logs Out
07/6/05 22:04:43 Cheryl-TX: night tony
07/6/05 22:04:44 Tina: Night Tony
07/6/05 22:05:15 Tina: Yes I put a hose bib in the basement so I could water.  I think things will go much better now
07/6/05 22:05:27 sherry__(Mo): Guess I'sd better go too-want to pot up a few more babies for Clare and Barb for tomorrow-nothing like waiting until the last minute!!
07/6/05 22:05:28 Jana_in_Indiana: what is a hose bib?
07/6/05 22:05:35 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Sherry!
07/6/05 22:05:39 Tina: need to finish replacing my lost wasps so I have breeding stock LOL
07/6/05 22:05:43 Cheryl-TX: i use over a hundred gallons of water each time i water
07/6/05 22:05:50 sherry__(Mo): Take care everyone!!
07/6/05 22:05:53 sherry__(Mo) Logs Out
07/6/05 22:05:55 Cheryl-TX: it was a lot of work hauling water
07/6/05 22:05:57 Tina: the spicket you contect the hose to
07/6/05 22:06:20 Tina: night Sherry
07/6/05 22:06:23 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, ok, I remember you telling us that in a chat long ago, never knew what it was
07/6/05 22:06:25 Tina: yes it is
07/6/05 22:06:30 Tina: LOL
07/6/05 22:06:48 Janis_in_Okla: I'm going to go too.  I'm getting to excited looking at all of these wasps and violets and wanting them all.  :(
07/6/05 22:06:56 Tina: well to have to mix fertilizer water for every container was too much
07/6/05 22:07:00 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Janis!
07/6/05 22:07:01 Janis_in_Okla: nite everyone.  take care :)
07/6/05 22:07:05 Janis_in_Okla Logs Out
07/6/05 22:07:08 Tina: now I can just toss the fertilizer in the tray and fill
07/6/05 22:07:22 Tina: Night Janis LOL they are addicting
07/6/05 22:07:30 Jana_in_Indiana: great!  Did you measure how much a tray holds?
07/6/05 22:07:47 Tina: about a gallon and a half I believe
07/6/05 22:07:58 Jana_in_Indiana: that's good to know!  LOL
07/6/05 22:08:15 Tina: so I just toss about a 1/4 teaspoon in each LOL
07/6/05 22:08:26 Jana_in_Indiana: that is a good time saver!
07/6/05 22:08:40 Cheryl-TX: i thought it was a gallon
07/6/05 22:08:49 Tina: yes very much so that is why I lost so many ws just unable to do it gallon by gallon arrrgh
07/6/05 22:08:55 Jana_in_Indiana: black or perma-nest trays?
07/6/05 22:09:05 Cheryl-TX: black
07/6/05 22:09:10 Tina: I get a gallon and a half in the one I filled but it was pretty full LOL
07/6/05 22:09:13 Cheryl-TX: pernest are larger
07/6/05 22:09:16 Tina: the black ones
07/6/05 22:09:38 Tina: well they are so darned expensive
07/6/05 22:09:39 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks.  I'll have to measure the perma-nest so I'll know
07/6/05 22:09:58 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, but they don't flex, wobble & crack on me
07/6/05 22:10:06 Cheryl-TX: i have been getting the black trays for about 60 cents
07/6/05 22:10:08 Jana_in_Indiana: I drop things all the time
07/6/05 22:10:19 Cheryl-TX: the perma nest are to rich for my blood
07/6/05 22:11:12 Jana_in_Indiana: in the long run they save me $$$, I was cracking the black ones & having to replace them real often
07/6/05 22:11:13 Cheryl-TX: if you use two they don't wobble and they are still cheaper than perma nest
07/6/05 22:11:26 Tina: mine are more that that LOL Cheryl
07/6/05 22:11:41 Tina: well I don't move them around so that should help
07/6/05 22:12:00 Tina: may replace them little by little with perma nest if I can get a good deal LOL
07/6/05 22:12:07 Jana_in_Indiana: I was poking holes in the black ones trying to clean them
07/6/05 22:12:28 Tina: LOL well quite cleaning them then LOL
07/6/05 22:12:31 Cheryl-TX: i use the spray foming bathroom cleaner
07/6/05 22:12:52 Cheryl-TX: i spray and then run a brush around them
07/6/05 22:12:53 Jana_in_Indiana: Cape Cod has the best deal -- if getting domes with trays, Tony is working on seeing if he can be a distributor of perma-nest trays
07/6/05 22:13:29 Tina: good idea cheyl
07/6/05 22:13:34 Cheryl-TX: well tina this is so exciting
07/6/05 22:13:46 Cheryl-TX: not cleaning trays, but your hybrids
07/6/05 22:13:51 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, great chat tonight, thanks Cheryl & Tina!
07/6/05 22:14:21 Tina: no problem LOL
07/6/05 22:14:30 Tina: Yes It is neat to see others interested in them
07/6/05 22:14:44 Cheryl-TX: maybe you could write an article for the news letter
07/6/05 22:15:01 Cheryl-TX: Walt was wanting articles
07/6/05 22:15:11 Tina: yes I suggested some ideas to him
07/6/05 22:15:31 Tina: I need to write another article for the AVSA on wasps but not sure where to go with it now
07/6/05 22:15:36 Jana_in_Indiana: did either of you talk to Joe Bruns about doing a guest speaker chat?
07/6/05 22:15:45 Tina: they emailed me and asked me to do another one
07/6/05 22:16:00 Jana_in_Indiana: great Tina, that's free advertising!
07/6/05 22:16:02 Tina: no I didn't
07/6/05 22:16:11 Tina: do you need me too
07/6/05 22:16:36 Jana_in_Indiana: I thought (some time ago) one of you suggested it & said you 'break the ice' for me?
07/6/05 22:16:46 Jana_in_Indiana: maybe I dreamed it, ;)
07/6/05 22:16:53 Tina: well maybe I did but forgot LOL
07/6/05 22:16:58 Cheryl-TX: I dont know him
07/6/05 22:17:08 Tina: that would be nothing new for me
07/6/05 22:17:51 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, let me rephrase that, Tina, would you ask him about doing a guest speaker chat for us & break the ice before I contact him?
07/6/05 22:17:54 Cheryl-TX: tina i do have a question, do some plant stamens have less pollen then other plants
07/6/05 22:18:30 Tina: I will email him Jana
07/6/05 22:18:42 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks!  I really appreciate it!
07/6/05 22:18:44 Tina: You mean the anthers Cheryl
07/6/05 22:19:12 Cheryl-TX: yes,
07/6/05 22:19:27 Tina: anthers usually have the pollen and the stamen is what you put the pollen on
07/6/05 22:20:12 Tina: yes some anthers do have more pollen or maybe be bigger in different flowers and some may not have any at all
07/6/05 22:20:48 Jana_in_Indiana: can you tell by appearance if the pollen is 'sterile' as Jeff Smith put it?
07/6/05 22:20:54 Cheryl-TX: i thought the stamen held the anther up
07/6/05 22:21:17 Cheryl-TX: and the pistil was what yo u put the pollen on
07/6/05 22:22:11 Tina: your right it is the pistol  that you put the pollen on  :?
07/6/05 22:22:38 Jana_in_Indiana: I thought the stigma was where you put the pollen onto!  Maybe we need an AV anatomy chat?
07/6/05 22:22:46 Cheryl-TX: well i think my splatter kake is sterile
07/6/05 22:23:14 Cheryl-TX: well the stigama is what is held up by the pistil
07/6/05 22:23:17 Cheryl-TX: lol
07/6/05 22:23:31 Tina: well I have to break out the books LOL
07/6/05 22:23:32 Jana_in_Indiana: the tip is called the stigma & the whole thing from base to tip is called the pistil?
07/6/05 22:24:07 Tina: yes that is right LOL
07/6/05 22:24:08 Cheryl-TX: i think you got it
07/6/05 22:24:23 Cheryl-TX: plant parts 101
07/6/05 22:24:26 Jana_in_Indiana: oh well, as long as the pollen get onto the sticky stick, you've done it right!
07/6/05 22:24:35 Cheryl-TX: lol
07/6/05 22:24:38 Tina: the stigma is the sticky part on the end where the pollen goes
07/6/05 22:25:16 Jana_in_Indiana: I must confess, I have a cheat sheet taped up here, to give me a quick reference -- right next to the computer!  LOL
07/6/05 22:25:19 Tina: can't think this hard after working 12 hours LOL
07/6/05 22:25:25 Cheryl-TX: yes but i watched hortense pittman pollenate some minis and the pollen sac litterly exploded
07/6/05 22:25:30 Tina: LOL
07/6/05 22:25:36 Jana_in_Indiana: that's understandable Tina!
07/6/05 22:26:00 Tina: how did he do that Cheryl
07/6/05 22:26:26 Tina: was the pollen sack dried out
07/6/05 22:26:38 Cheryl-TX: she used a safety pin that she had had for about thirty years
07/6/05 22:26:45 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
07/6/05 22:27:11 Cheryl-TX: i tried that and lost 3 pins before i had finished
07/6/05 22:27:39 Jana_in_Indiana: I watched Pat do it, just split the anther with a fingernail, dumped pollen onto a petal & rubbed the stigma
07/6/05 22:27:41 Cheryl-TX: no she took it off the plant,
07/6/05 22:28:33 Tina: how old was the blossom she used
07/6/05 22:28:41 Cheryl-TX: so i guess it was not dry
07/6/05 22:29:04 Jana_in_Indiana: newer blossom for the pollen donor, older bloom for parent I *think*
07/6/05 22:29:06 Tina: I notice if the blossom is fairly new it is not always powdery
07/6/05 22:29:18 Cheryl-TX: i think she said it had been open for about 4 or 5 days
07/6/05 22:29:32 Jana_in_Indiana: might be the other way around, didn't take notes -- which I will next time!
07/6/05 22:29:56 Cheryl-TX: lol
07/6/05 22:29:59 Tina: yes the stigma is only sticky for a few days where the pollen is good much longer I believe
07/6/05 22:30:12 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
07/6/05 22:30:43 Cheryl-TX: well i think she said that there will be swelling in about a week it it took
07/6/05 22:31:04 Jana_in_Indiana: my convention plants come out of isolation in 2 weeks, they're blooming like crazy, THEN I'll 'play' with pollinating
07/6/05 22:31:20 Cheryl-TX: oh that will be fun
07/6/05 22:31:37 Cheryl-TX: my babies are doing well
07/6/05 22:31:44 Jana_in_Indiana: I can see loads of blooms, driving me crazy wanting to take a peek!
07/6/05 22:31:48 Tina: yeah
07/6/05 22:31:48 Jana_in_Indiana: great!
07/6/05 22:33:07 Jana_in_Indiana: I enjoyed the chat, but need to get stuff done, thanks & g'nite!
07/6/05 22:33:20 Tina: LOL
07/6/05 22:33:36 Cheryl-TX: well it has been nice talking you both of you
07/6/05 22:33:40 Jana_in_Indiana: let me know what you hear from Joe please Tina?
07/6/05 22:34:08 Tina: ok jana
07/6/05 22:34:19 Jana_in_Indiana: thanks!  G'nite Cheryl & Tina!
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07/6/05 22:34:52 Cheryl-TX: how are you doing tina, it has been a long time since i have run into you on chat
07/6/05 22:35:37 Tina: I am ok
07/6/05 22:35:58 Cheryl-TX: well i am so happy about  you vespas
07/6/05 22:36:00 Tina: doing better then I was
07/6/05 22:36:12 Cheryl-TX: you have been working on them of for so long
07/6/05 22:36:27 Cheryl-TX: what was was?
07/6/05 22:36:32 Cheryl-TX: wrong
07/6/05 22:37:46 Tina: I was pregnant and baby did not develop past 6 weeks and have to have a D&C
07/6/05 22:38:08 Cheryl-TX: that is terrible,
07/6/05 22:38:43 Tina: yeas very upsetting after trying for over 2 years
07/6/05 22:39:07 Cheryl-TX: I have three boys all grown now, and I lost two farther along than six weeks and have never really forgotten about it
07/6/05 22:39:28 Cheryl-TX: it is more upsetting than people can imagine
07/6/05 22:40:00 Cheryl-TX: especially when you have been trying for so long, you whole focus is on the process
07/6/05 22:41:43 Tina: yes we are deciding whether to try again
07/6/05 22:42:02 Cheryl-TX: will this be y our first?
07/6/05 22:42:11 Tina: no
07/6/05 22:42:40 Cheryl-TX: that is right you have two little ones,
07/6/05 22:45:15 Cheryl-TX: well it is stressful to go through the process, I am glad you are feeling better
07/6/05 22:45:45 Tina: I have 3 so really can't complain
07/6/05 22:45:58 Cheryl-TX: well it is time for me to get back to my article, I am having writers block
07/6/05 22:46:02 Tina: have to go phone call sorry
07/6/05 22:46:07 Cheryl-TX: night
07/6/05 22:46:16 Tina: ngiht]
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