05/26/05 19:38:45 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.194.131.242]
05/26/05 20:00:27 Peggy_in_Pa Logs in [207.172.119.154]
05/26/05 20:00:34 paula0103 Logs in [12.223.195.199]
05/26/05 20:00:35 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Peggy!
05/26/05 20:00:40 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Paula!
05/26/05 20:00:50 paula0103: Hi
05/26/05 20:00:52 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Jana & paula
05/26/05 20:01:10 paula0103: How is everyone tonight?
05/26/05 20:01:25 Peggy_in_Pa: Great!
05/26/05 20:01:36 Jana_in_Indiana: fine!
05/26/05 20:01:55 Peggy_in_Pa: Got all my chores done before Chat tome
05/26/05 20:02:05 Peggy_in_Pa: time*
05/26/05 20:02:07 Jana_in_Indiana: good for you Peggy!
05/26/05 20:02:13 Tony_IL Logs in [207.43.75.34]
05/26/05 20:02:17 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tony!
05/26/05 20:02:20 paula0103: Hi Tony
05/26/05 20:02:31 Tony_IL: hi Jana, Peggy and Paula
05/26/05 20:02:38 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Tony
05/26/05 20:02:45 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
05/26/05 20:02:48 Patty_in_MD Logs in [72.9.0.162]
05/26/05 20:02:55 Tony_IL: Hi Clare
05/26/05 20:02:55 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Clare & Patty!
05/26/05 20:02:58 Patty_in_MD: Hi everyone.
05/26/05 20:03:05 Tony_IL: hi Patty
05/26/05 20:03:07 Peggy_in_Pa: HI Clare and Patty
05/26/05 20:04:11 Clare_KS: Hi all :)
05/26/05 20:05:18 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, I saw the dividing folder on VVV, but no photos ;(
05/26/05 20:05:53 Patty_in_MD: I couldn't find the photos,either.
05/26/05 20:05:57 Jana_in_Indiana: :?
05/26/05 20:06:06 Jana_in_Indiana: Patty, did you look on VR?
05/26/05 20:06:08 Peggy_in_Pa: I saw them om VR
05/26/05 20:06:15 Peggy_in_Pa: on*
05/26/05 20:06:21 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, they are on VR
05/26/05 20:07:05 Patty_in_MD: I just tried following the links in the e-mail and got error messages that the page was no longer there.
05/26/05 20:07:16 Tony_IL: didn't get into VVV yet
05/26/05 20:07:32 Jana_in_Indiana: well, that wasn't nice!   :<
05/26/05 20:07:51 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, that must be why I couldn't see them, LOL
05/26/05 20:07:55 Tony_IL: it wouldn't let me just copy them from 1 group to the other.
05/26/05 20:08:07 Peggy_in_Pa: But we'll forgive you Tony
05/26/05 20:08:34 Tony_IL: thanks, maybe get it right by tomorrow
05/26/05 20:09:30 Jana_in_Indiana: the first 2 links are broke, yahoo split them, but you can copy & paste to make them work, but the last link works, just tried it
05/26/05 20:09:31 Tony_IL: and Jeff Foxworthy and the other rednecks came on TV and distracted me
05/26/05 20:09:46 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, it's on here too, Jimmy loves it!
05/26/05 20:10:06 paula0103: I love Ron 'Tator Salad'
05/26/05 20:10:11 Tony_IL: Get 'er done
05/26/05 20:10:12 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
05/26/05 20:10:29 paula0103: Here's you sign...
05/26/05 20:10:33 Becca,IN Logs in [71.98.85.213]
05/26/05 20:10:38 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Becca!
05/26/05 20:10:39 paula0103: Hi Becca
05/26/05 20:10:40 Tony_IL: hi Becca
05/26/05 20:10:46 Peggy_in_Pa: HI Becca
05/26/05 20:10:46 Becca,IN: hello
05/26/05 20:11:31 Jana_in_Indiana: ready to start Tony?
05/26/05 20:11:43 Tony_IL: whatever
05/26/05 20:11:55 Jana_in_Indiana: or shall we wait for late ones a bit longer?
05/26/05 20:12:10 Tony_IL: will wait 2 more minutes 'til 15 after
05/26/05 20:12:16 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
05/26/05 20:12:25 Jana_in_Indiana: any questions whhile we wait, anyone?
05/26/05 20:12:41 Peggy_in_Pa: where is Paula from?
05/26/05 20:12:52 paula0103: Paula is from Indiana
05/26/05 20:13:25 Becca,IN: yeah us hoosiers
05/26/05 20:13:29 paula0103: Had I known I would have put it in my signon.  But I didn't know
05/26/05 20:13:43 Peggy_in_Pa: next time
05/26/05 20:13:56 paula0103: Can I join again under a different name?
05/26/05 20:14:01 Jana_in_Indiana: you can sign in any way you want, once someone signed in as 'Jana'!  & it wasn't me!
05/26/05 20:14:20 paula0103: I got 13 leaves today!!
05/26/05 20:14:25 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Paula
05/26/05 20:14:37 Tony_IL: from who?
05/26/05 20:14:39 Jana_in_Indiana: wonderful!!!!
05/26/05 20:14:39 Patty_in_MD: That's so fun, isn't it, Paula?
05/26/05 20:14:40 Peggy_in_Pa: that alway fun
05/26/05 20:14:51 paula0103: I'm just so afraid I'll kill them!
05/26/05 20:15:08 Becca,IN: I got two plantlets and 4 leafs for lisa today
05/26/05 20:15:10 Jana_in_Indiana: even killing them is a learning experience!
05/26/05 20:15:11 Tony_IL: learn as you go
05/26/05 20:15:14 paula0103: From The Velvet Leaf and Optimara
05/26/05 20:15:19 Peggy_in_Pa: have you done it before?
05/26/05 20:15:37 paula0103: I did my first ones on Monday.  Cheryl gave me some
05/26/05 20:15:57 paula0103: and Becca too
05/26/05 20:16:06 Becca,IN: yeah were you as scared as I was
05/26/05 20:16:08 Jana_in_Indiana: just keep doing it till you get it right -- and you WILL get it right!
05/26/05 20:16:23 paula0103: I hope so.  They are all in baggies
05/26/05 20:16:35 Peggy_in_Pa: Yes and then the babies take over you house
05/26/05 20:16:49 paula0103: They are already starting to!
05/26/05 20:16:57 Becca,IN: i seprated babies to and all are doing well not sure when oyu should seperate them from mommy but i went ahead and did it
05/26/05 20:16:57 Tony_IL: which brings us to tonite's topic
05/26/05 20:16:58 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony gave me my first batch of named leaves & I killed every one of them in record time!
05/26/05 20:17:11 Clare_KS: I have a question about the Gel2Root, Jana
05/26/05 20:17:18 paula0103: You killed them???
05/26/05 20:17:34 paula0103: What did you do wrong?
05/26/05 20:17:43 Clare_KS: I put down several leaves last week. The one that has a red back has now turned the gel red...is that normal?
05/26/05 20:17:43 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, as most of us do when learning how to NOT kill them!
05/26/05 20:18:14 Jana_in_Indiana: changed everything at once, soil, watering method, I did everything wrong!
05/26/05 20:18:40 paula0103: Did the leaves make babies and then they died?
05/26/05 20:18:49 Jana_in_Indiana: nope, LOL!
05/26/05 20:19:00 Peggy_in_Pa: Jana was that when I sent you some babies or leaves?
05/26/05 20:19:20 Clare_KS Disconnects
05/26/05 20:19:25 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232]
05/26/05 20:19:27 Jana_in_Indiana: it was way back when Tony gave me leaves
05/26/05 20:19:37 Jana_in_Indiana: poor Clare, at it again tonight?
05/26/05 20:19:46 Peggy_in_Pa: Did I send you some then>
05/26/05 20:19:47 Jana_in_Indiana: my first named ones
05/26/05 20:19:53 Clare_KS: my network keeps burping off.
05/26/05 20:19:55 Becca,IN: I hope i don't kill mine i would be devestated
05/26/05 20:19:58 Jana_in_Indiana: later, yes Peggy
05/26/05 20:20:11 Clare_KS: Did you see my question about the gel, Jana?
05/26/05 20:20:16 Jana_in_Indiana > Clare_KS: you had a question about the gel2root?
05/26/05 20:20:28 Clare_KS > Jana_in_Indiana: yes...
05/26/05 20:20:36 Jana_in_Indiana > Clare_KS: LOL, see!  I did see it!
05/26/05 20:20:42 Becca,IN: wb clare
05/26/05 20:20:44 Clare_KS > Jana_in_Indiana: the red backed leaf has turned the gel red
05/26/05 20:20:45 Peggy_in_Pa: Jana did they live
05/26/05 20:20:51 Clare_KS > Jana_in_Indiana: is that normal or is it rotting?
05/26/05 20:21:32 Jana_in_Indiana > Clare_KS: gel changing color is usually from phenolics forming -- best to remove it, check & remove any parts that are rotting & place in new gel
05/26/05 20:21:56 Clare_KS > Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks. 
05/26/05 20:22:27 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.165.149.218]
05/26/05 20:22:29 Jana_in_Indiana: I think so, I have lost track of who some came from, I have a Star Light baby (and others)I don't have a clue where it came from!
05/26/05 20:22:33 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sherry!
05/26/05 20:22:42 Becca,IN: hi sherry
05/26/05 20:22:46 sherry__(Mo): Hi everyone!!
05/26/05 20:22:47 paula0103: Hi Sherry
05/26/05 20:22:48 Tony_IL: hi Sherry
05/26/05 20:22:52 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Sherry
05/26/05 20:23:09 Jana_in_Indiana > Clare_KS: you're welcome!
05/26/05 20:23:19 Becca,IN: Paula we need to meet ay cheryl's next week to ask more qeustions lol
05/26/05 20:23:28 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
05/26/05 20:23:40 paula0103: I talked to her today on the phone.  Her arthritis is acting up
05/26/05 20:23:40 Patty_in_MD: I have some large Buckeye leaves that I just put down.  They are just turning brown where they touch the baggies but otherwise they are fine.  Should I be worried about that?
05/26/05 20:23:55 Jana_in_Indiana: or you could have a weekly meeting for lunch at a local restaurant
05/26/05 20:24:08 paula0103: That sounds good
05/26/05 20:24:44 Jana_in_Indiana: Patty, can you blow air into the bag so the leaf doesn't touch the bag?
05/26/05 20:25:12 Patty_in_MD: The leaves are so big and they are in quart bags that I have blown up.  Should I put them in gallon bags?
05/26/05 20:25:26 Jana_in_Indiana: maybe!  ;)
05/26/05 20:25:50 Patty_in_MD: Yikes!  They've already taken up all the counter space in my kitchen and laundry rooms!
05/26/05 20:25:57 Tony_IL: do red back leaves turn the gel2root solution red?
05/26/05 20:26:15 Becca,IN: what day is ok for you paula i need to ask cheryl what day is good for her
05/26/05 20:26:15 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, do you have ESP?
05/26/05 20:26:31 paula0103: I don't know.  We can talk later
05/26/05 20:26:37 Becca,IN: ok
05/26/05 20:26:39 Tony_IL: no, just a scroll wheel
05/26/05 20:27:02 Jana_in_Indiana: no, the color change in the gel is usually the formation of phenolics, need to remove any rotted parts & rinse it & place in new gel
05/26/05 20:28:34 Tony_IL: 2 biggest mistakes in separating babies: 1) doing it when they are too small and 2)trying to save them all
05/26/05 20:28:45 Jana_in_Indiana: I knew it would show up on the chat log, & didn't want to interrupt you with dividing babies
05/26/05 20:29:01 sherry__(Mo): I agree Tony!!
05/26/05 20:29:05 paula0103: You can't save them all?
05/26/05 20:29:14 Tony_IL: let them grow so you can handle them. It will take a little time but worth it
05/26/05 20:29:47 Tony_IL: If you have 1 big one, separate him/her out and put the rest back for a while
05/26/05 20:29:53 Jana_in_Indiana: no, if you save the runts & weaklings, you'll have to 'nurse' them all their lives, it's not worth it!
05/26/05 20:30:29 sherry__(Mo): And they are just taking up valuable room!
05/26/05 20:30:32 Tony_IL: I'd agree with that, just depends on how bad you want it
05/26/05 20:31:04 paula0103: I want them bad!!!
05/26/05 20:31:08 Peggy_in_Pa: Tony I take the biggest one off and let the rest stay until they are bigger
05/26/05 20:31:21 Tony_IL: In the second set of pics I use a wooden manacure stick to help me see where to make the cuts
05/26/05 20:32:00 Tony_IL: Also can leave it there while I make the cut(s)
05/26/05 20:32:32 Tony_IL: toothpicks will also work out fine
05/26/05 20:32:57 Tony_IL: get out the sharp thing and start in
05/26/05 20:33:21 paula0103: What would it hurt to just leave it longer?
05/26/05 20:33:29 Tony_IL: you can dip the blade in alcohol or bleach to clean it
05/26/05 20:33:56 Jana_in_Indiana: really good practice!  That way you don't spread any unknown viruses!
05/26/05 20:33:56 Tony_IL: Paula, don't be in a big hurry. They will continue to grow in the conatiner
05/26/05 20:35:02 Tony_IL: when you're all done dividing, repot them in Solo cups or 2" pots or whatever you prefer.
05/26/05 20:35:15 sherry__(Mo): Plus waiting longer gives them more time to develop a better root system
05/26/05 20:35:32 Patty_in_MD: I here you guys talking about the condiment cups all the time. Are those good for babies?
05/26/05 20:35:42 Jana_in_Indiana: the bigger the baby, the better the root system, the more likely it will survive
05/26/05 20:35:45 Tony_IL: good poing, Sherry. Try to get some roots with each baby.
05/26/05 20:36:07 Tony_IL: good point*
05/26/05 20:36:47 sherry__(Mo): LOL-I knew what you meant Tony-that's the way I type and spell too
05/26/05 20:36:48 Tony_IL: you may want to use a scissors to cut the roots apart
05/26/05 20:36:51 Jana_in_Indiana: I'll take photos of the babies I'm dividing tomorrow -- you'
05/26/05 20:37:03 Jana_in_Indiana: you'll be amazed how big they are!
05/26/05 20:37:13 paula0103: I'd like to see them
05/26/05 20:37:30 Peggy_in_Pa: I have some that are blooming and still with the mother leaf, that's tooooooooooooooo long to wait
05/26/05 20:37:40 Patty_in_MD: The 2 oz cups seem so big for the babies.  Is it better to start them in something smaller?
05/26/05 20:37:59 Tony_IL: put the blades back someplace while you're finishing up so you don't get cut by accident
05/26/05 20:38:08 Jana_in_Indiana: one is about 5 inches across, I can't see the mother leaf or name tag -- but I know they're in there!
05/26/05 20:38:44 Patty_in_MD: Maybe 2 oz cups would be too small for a 5 inch baby!
05/26/05 20:38:48 paula0103: Did you leave it that long on purpose or were you just too busy?
05/26/05 20:38:53 Jana_in_Indiana: you can add only 1 inch of soil to the solo cup, no need to fill it up
05/26/05 20:39:31 Jana_in_Indiana: busy Paula, but these leaves were put down Jan 27, 2005
05/26/05 20:39:51 Peggy_in_Pa: Just  busy to get the babies divided
05/26/05 20:39:58 Patty_in_MD: Wow!  I have some that I put down in January that are still too little to take from mama!
05/26/05 20:40:05 Tony_IL: also can use the sides of the cup to support the babies if needed
05/26/05 20:40:48 sherry__(Mo): Are they standards, semis, or what Patty?
05/26/05 20:41:04 Patty_in_MD: Standards. I think I planted them too deep.
05/26/05 20:41:25 sherry__(Mo): Are you fertilizing them?
05/26/05 20:41:40 Jana_in_Indiana: I also take a 3 oz. solo cup, make cuts from the top lip to the bottom edge about 1/2 inch apart, then cut the all free from the bottom & use to prop up leaves or babies -- one cup can make lots of props!
05/26/05 20:41:50 Patty_in_MD: I use fertilized water when I water them, which isn't very often because they're still in their baggy.
05/26/05 20:41:59 Tony_IL: the deeper you plant the Momma leaf, the more soil the babies have to go thru and the longer it takes
05/26/05 20:42:25 Patty_in_MD: With my new leaves, I've put them just barely under the soil.  Is that OK?
05/26/05 20:42:56 Tony_IL: I don't put mine more than 1/2" deep.
05/26/05 20:42:58 sherry__(Mo): That's good Patty
05/26/05 20:43:23 Jana_in_Indiana: I try to keep mine 1/4 to 1/2 inch deep
05/26/05 20:43:36 Tony_IL: you can also re-use the Momma leaf
05/26/05 20:43:39 Peggy_in_Pa: Me too Jana
05/26/05 20:43:45 Patty_in_MD: So how do you get them to grow so fast???!!!
05/26/05 20:43:48 Dogmom Logs in [12.222.144.10]
05/26/05 20:43:55 Tony_IL: hi Cheryl
05/26/05 20:43:55 paula0103: Hi Cheryl!
05/26/05 20:43:56 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi DMC!
05/26/05 20:44:01 sherry__(Mo): Hi Cheryl
05/26/05 20:44:15 Peggy_in_Pa: Yes Tone if the Mother leaf is still good I goes back for another batch
05/26/05 20:44:18 Dogmom: Surprised t o see so many still here :-)
05/26/05 20:44:23 Peggy_in_Pa: Tony*
05/26/05 20:44:30 Dogmom: Hi all
05/26/05 20:44:44 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Cheryl
05/26/05 20:45:22 Dogmom: So is everyone ready to separate babies now? If so, come to my house LOL!
05/26/05 20:45:51 paula0103: Becca and I can come and you can teach us!
05/26/05 20:46:02 Tony_IL: remember what you're planning to do with all the babies. I ended up with 17 of Raspberry Queen. Not smart.
05/26/05 20:46:07 Jana_in_Indiana: no, don't go to cheryl's, come here & help me!!!  PLEASE????
05/26/05 20:46:18 Dogmom: Biggest trick for me is separate 'em when they're on the dry side
05/26/05 20:46:23 paula0103: I'd love to Jana
05/26/05 20:46:50 Jana_in_Indiana: better yet, I'll swing by Lafayette & get you gals & we'll go help tony!
05/26/05 20:46:52 Dogmom: TONY - I only take, at most, three from any leaf
05/26/05 20:47:01 Becca,IN: hi cgeryl
05/26/05 20:47:16 Becca,IN: sory steped out for a little bit
05/26/05 20:47:17 Becca,IN: oops
05/26/05 20:47:20 Tony_IL: I like mine a little wet so all the dirrt doesn't fall off. Like anything, personal preference.
05/26/05 20:47:22 sherry__(Mo): And when you get done at Tony's, please come help me water
05/26/05 20:47:51 Becca,IN: cheryl my allergies are killing me
05/26/05 20:48:02 Jana_in_Indiana: ok sherry, Anngela's ready to pack her bags!  she heard the zoo has pandas there!
05/26/05 20:48:07 Tony_IL: when I get 1 more stand repotted, Sherry
05/26/05 20:48:11 sherry__(Mo): LOL Jana
05/26/05 20:48:14 Dogmom: Becca... must have been the exposure to the dogs LOL!
05/26/05 20:48:24 Becca,IN: no  i get like this
05/26/05 20:48:36 paula0103: I love your dogs.  They are beautiful!
05/26/05 20:48:41 Jana_in_Indiana: the news said the pollen & mold is really high now
05/26/05 20:49:13 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, when potting up babies, you don't fill the cup with soil, do you?
05/26/05 20:49:16 Becca,IN: thats nice
05/26/05 20:49:29 Tony_IL: everybody good on how to separate the little ones?
05/26/05 20:49:41 Becca,IN: time for the alergra
05/26/05 20:49:44 Clare_KS: Thanks, Tony!
05/26/05 20:49:52 Tony_IL: depends on how big the baby is
05/26/05 20:50:07 Jana_in_Indiana: allegra, benadryl & claritin!!! Daily!
05/26/05 20:50:10 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, thanks!
05/26/05 20:50:15 Tony_IL: usually about 1/2 the 3oz Solo cup
05/26/05 20:50:15 Dogmom: I've been pretty lucky with separating the babies... but I don't try to pot them all - just the top three.
05/26/05 20:50:36 Dogmom: ... even if it means throwing another five or fiteen into the compost bin
05/26/05 20:50:40 Becca,IN: when is it time to seperated babies
05/26/05 20:51:07 Becca,IN: remeber they have feelings lol
05/26/05 20:51:10 Jana_in_Indiana: #1 when you have the time #2 when they're big enough
05/26/05 20:51:11 Dogmom: Becca - for me it's when there's a leaf pair that's about "dime-size"
05/26/05 20:51:32 Tony_IL: when the leaves are about the size of a nickel for standards.
05/26/05 20:51:37 Dogmom: LOL Jana - yeah, time is a big deal
05/26/05 20:51:37 Becca,IN: ok so what about the one's you gave paula and I should i serpated them?
05/26/05 20:51:46 Clare_KS: Jana, how did you get 5 inch babies from leaves you put down in January??
05/26/05 20:51:51 Tony_IL: Whatever you are comfortable to handle
05/26/05 20:51:53 Jana_in_Indiana: there's no harm in letting them grwo & get bigger so you feel comfortable handling them
05/26/05 20:52:15 Dogmom: NOOOOOOOOOO Becca - let 'em wait at least another month... then c'mon over & we'll do it together.
05/26/05 20:52:25 Becca,IN: ok thanks
05/26/05 20:52:36 Jana_in_Indiana: Clare, I swear it's the soil!  they're growing like weeds but honestly, the 5 inch one is the biggest one
05/26/05 20:52:41 paula0103: Becca, I thought you said you already divided them
05/26/05 20:52:46 Becca,IN: no
05/26/05 20:52:57 Clare_KS: are you using Pat Hancock's soil mix?
05/26/05 20:52:59 Patty_in_MD: What soil recipe do you use, Jana?
05/26/05 20:53:00 Jana_in_Indiana: yes
05/26/05 20:53:07 Dogmom: Becca & Paula - time for another meeting  LOL!
05/26/05 20:53:13 Dogmom: You can watch me do it.
05/26/05 20:53:16 Jana_in_Indiana: has manure, compost, lots of nutrients
05/26/05 20:53:17 Becca,IN: the one's i dived were not the one's we got
05/26/05 20:53:30 Tony_IL: I don't think they will grow any faster if you divide them than if you waited.
05/26/05 20:53:42 Patty_in_MD: Tony, do you have a soil recipe?
05/26/05 20:53:49 Clare_KS: Those of you who wick...do you put anything in the tray water to keep it fresh smelling?
05/26/05 20:53:53 Dogmom: I agree, Tony... patience is definitely a virtue
05/26/05 20:54:23 Jana_in_Indiana: Physan 20 helps keep it from growing algae & smelling sour
05/26/05 20:54:26 Tony_IL: yes, kind a modified Del's recipe. I just strted the chicken poop but no compose yet
05/26/05 20:55:08 Tony_IL: if the soil smells like a wet diaper, probably time to repot
05/26/05 20:55:21 Patty_in_MD: I can't find half of the ingredients in Pat's recipe!  :(
05/26/05 20:55:35 sherry__(Mo): like which Patty?
05/26/05 20:56:07 Dogmom: Patty - start with a 1:1:1 mix of commercial AV mix, perlite & vermiculite while you're searching for "exotic" ingredients.
05/26/05 20:56:12 Jana_in_Indiana: the dehydrated manure I can sed you, only needs 1/2 cup (I think) per batch
05/26/05 20:56:18 Patty_in_MD: The manure for one. I can't remember off hand what else she has in it but I looked the other day and didn't have much luck.  I can't even find vermiculite right now!
05/26/05 20:56:22 Dogmom: It'll be light and happy.
05/26/05 20:56:40 Jana_in_Indiana: Pro-Mix BX, but you can use others
05/26/05 20:57:03 Patty_in_MD: What does that look like?  Box, bag, cannister??
05/26/05 20:57:11 Jana_in_Indiana: you can order verm & perlite on line Patty
05/26/05 20:57:27 Dogmom: Everytime the subject of soil mixes comes up, I feel like we're talking dogfood on the canine lists LOL!
05/26/05 20:57:42 Tony_IL: I don't find a lot of difference between ProMix and peat other than a little perlite in the ProMix
05/26/05 20:57:43 Jana_in_Indiana: I posted a link to the manufacturer of Pro mix, Let me look
05/26/05 20:57:43 Becca,IN: they one's that I dived were really small what will happen to them cheryl *beep*
05/26/05 20:57:55 sherry__(Mo): I'm surprised your garden centers don't have it at this time of the year
05/26/05 20:58:02 paula0103: Cheryl can you get vermiculite in Lafayette?
05/26/05 20:58:13 Becca,IN: yes paula i have some
05/26/05 20:58:13 Dogmom: Becca, they'll thrive if you love them!
05/26/05 20:58:22 Dogmom: Yes, Paula, we buy it at Lowes
05/26/05 20:58:27 paula0103: ok
05/26/05 20:58:27 Becca,IN: ok :( i hope so
05/26/05 20:58:34 Jana_in_Indiana: http://www.premierhort.com/website/products/aproducts/aprodprof/aprodbiofungicide/afbiofungicide.html
05/26/05 20:58:37 Tony_IL: Patty, usually a very large plastic like about the size of a bale of hay. 4 cu ft.
05/26/05 20:58:38 Dogmom: How small were they, Becca
05/26/05 20:58:44 Peggy_in_Pa: I'm not sure if it's the soil mix or the fertilizer or the TLC. After the ribbon I won a my show, I'm not sure
05/26/05 20:58:56 Patty_in_MD: I'll have to shop online.  I've been to every garden store within 50 miles.  We live in the boonies!   Even Lowe's and Home Depot don't have  it.
05/26/05 20:59:00 Becca,IN: like the one's you sent home they were ones my mom gave me
05/26/05 20:59:14 Jana_in_Indiana: Home Depot has some Pro mix too
05/26/05 20:59:37 paula0103: Oh, that's good to know.  I'll have to come up and shop
05/26/05 20:59:48 Jana_in_Indiana: Peggy, whatever you're doing is working!  Don't change a thing!
05/26/05 20:59:48 Dogmom: Becca - keep 'em humid/bagged & they'll be fine... maybe bring them over so we can take a look.
05/26/05 20:59:58 Clare_KS: Have to get to bed...night all :)
05/26/05 21:00:02 Clare_KS Logs Out
05/26/05 21:00:04 Tony_IL: nite Clare
05/26/05 21:00:08 Becca,IN: ok  :( i hope i on't kill them
05/26/05 21:00:09 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Clare!
05/26/05 21:00:20 Becca,IN: i will go bag them ight now
05/26/05 21:00:40 Dogmom: BECCA & PAULA - please e-mail me privately - let's have another session
05/26/05 21:00:41 Jana_in_Indiana: Paula, where are you?  Laff?
05/26/05 21:00:48 Tony_IL: vermiculite is also sole as MicaFlakes. Used to insulate concrete blocks.
05/26/05 21:00:52 paula0103: Lebanon
05/26/05 21:00:53 sherry__(Mo): Night Clare!
05/26/05 21:01:10 Jana_in_Indiana: heck, that's closer to me!
05/26/05 21:01:16 paula0103: Yes it is
05/26/05 21:01:22 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm in Lawrence, the NE side of Indy
05/26/05 21:01:53 paula0103: I know, we've had this conversation before  lol
05/26/05 21:01:59 Dogmom: Hey, Jana - are you trying to steal 1/3 of my club ROTFLMAO!?
05/26/05 21:02:02 Jana_in_Indiana: you close to I-65 or out in the boonies?
05/26/05 21:02:08 Jana_in_Indiana: no!
05/26/05 21:02:11 paula0103: Very close to 65
05/26/05 21:02:17 Jana_in_Indiana: great!
05/26/05 21:02:22 Patty_in_MD: I have to go, everyone.  I have a teenager who will absolutely PERISH if he can't get on the internet soon!
05/26/05 21:02:28 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite patty!
05/26/05 21:02:36 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL
05/26/05 21:02:38 Peggy_in_Pa: nite Patty
05/26/05 21:02:38 Dogmom: Nite, Patty :0_
05/26/05 21:02:39 Tony_IL: nite Patty
05/26/05 21:02:53 Patty_in_MD: Thanks for all the help!
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05/26/05 21:03:06 Jana_in_Indiana: Paula, going to do anything important this holiday weekend?
05/26/05 21:03:14 paula0103: I don't think so
05/26/05 21:03:23 paula0103: why?
05/26/05 21:03:34 Jana_in_Indiana: I *might* wander your way, but I'll call first if I do
05/26/05 21:03:43 paula0103: ok
05/26/05 21:04:09 Jana_in_Indiana: AV's are amazing!  It's the only group where people WANT a bag of poop!  LOL
05/26/05 21:04:26 paula0103: lol
05/26/05 21:04:28 Tony_IL: take your bag of goodies along, Jana
05/26/05 21:04:39 Jana_in_Indiana: oh, if I go, I will!
05/26/05 21:04:53 Dogmom: Pity that doggie poop won't do the same as chicken poop or I'd be in business LOL!
05/26/05 21:05:04 paula0103: Really!
05/26/05 21:05:18 Peggy_in_Pa: me toooooooooooooo!!!!
05/26/05 21:05:51 Jana_in_Indiana: you can order the same chicken poop as I have on line, I'll get that link!
05/26/05 21:05:56 sherry__(Mo): I've got to go-Happy holidays!!
05/26/05 21:05:56 Tony_IL: probably would do but you have to figure out the right proportions. LOL
05/26/05 21:06:05 Tony_IL: nite Sherry
05/26/05 21:06:07 paula0103: Bye Sherry
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05/26/05 21:06:28 Jana_in_Indiana: http://homeharvest.com/soilconditionersorganicmatter.htm
05/26/05 21:06:33 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite sherry!
05/26/05 21:06:45 Dogmom: Well, kids, I'm gone - Becca & Paula - let's do it again soon... VERY soon - I have some "grown-ups" to give away
05/26/05 21:06:54 paula0103: ok!
05/26/05 21:06:54 Jana_in_Indiana: it cost maybe $4.50, for 4 lbs, lasts a LONG time
05/26/05 21:07:00 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite DMC
05/26/05 21:07:07 Tony_IL: nite Cheryl
05/26/05 21:07:08 paula0103: Bye Cheryl
05/26/05 21:07:10 Becca,IN: ok we will have to do that
05/26/05 21:07:15 Becca,IN: by cheryl
05/26/05 21:07:19 Dogmom: Thanks for the link, Jana  - G'nite all
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05/26/05 21:07:57 paula0103: Do any of you know of anywhere I could get Optimara artist palette besides Optimara?
05/26/05 21:08:01 Jana_in_Indiana: I hope that link works, haven't used it for a while, but if not just go to www.homeharvest.com
05/26/05 21:08:23 Tony_IL: anyone with less than 50-100 plants, leaves down, etc. ain't really trying
05/26/05 21:08:25 Jana_in_Indiana: there's a guy in NY selling Opti's, do an internet search
05/26/05 21:08:34 paula0103: I did
05/26/05 21:08:48 Peggy_in_Pa: wish i had someone in in the group to get together with
05/26/05 21:08:53 paula0103: Do you know the name by chance?
05/26/05 21:09:09 paula0103: Peggy I'm sure you could just hop a jet
05/26/05 21:09:21 paula0103: :)
05/26/05 21:09:22 Jana_in_Indiana: yes, we did have a wonderful time at convention didn't we Peggy?
05/26/05 21:09:33 Jana_in_Indiana: can't remember Paula, sorry
05/26/05 21:09:39 paula0103: That's ok
05/26/05 21:09:56 Tony_IL: just post a message to the group as to what you are looking for and see if you get a response
05/26/05 21:10:04 paula0103: I did
05/26/05 21:10:29 Tony_IL: no go, huh?
05/26/05 21:10:37 paula0103: I just did it this evening so maybe someone will respond
05/26/05 21:10:47 Becca,IN: well guys hubby wants on the puter
05/26/05 21:10:54 Tony_IL: nite Becca
05/26/05 21:10:55 paula0103: Bye Becca!
05/26/05 21:10:57 Becca,IN: better go before he has a cow
05/26/05 21:10:59 Peggy_in_Pa: Jana wish I could get together with you and others, we did have a good time at convention
05/26/05 21:11:05 Jana_in_Indiana: I use www.dogpile.com for searches, it uses google, ask jeeves & ??? some other one, lots more hits with it
05/26/05 21:11:14 Becca,IN: bye all  *beep*
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05/26/05 21:11:18 Jana_in_Indiana: me too Peggy!
05/26/05 21:11:22 Becca,IN Logs Out
05/26/05 21:11:23 paula0103: I'll try that, thanks Jana
05/26/05 21:11:23 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Becca!
05/26/05 21:11:24 Tony_IL: hi Carol
05/26/05 21:11:29 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Carol!
05/26/05 21:11:44 Carol_SK: Hi !  Boy am I delinquint lol
05/26/05 21:11:53 Jana_in_Indiana: go to your corner gal!
05/26/05 21:12:01 Carol_SK: get that wet noodle
05/26/05 21:12:13 Carol_SK: never rains lol
05/26/05 21:12:13 paula0103: I've gotta go.  See ya all later.  THanks for the info!
05/26/05 21:12:22 Peggy_in_Pa: I think I better say g'nite
05/26/05 21:12:23 Jana_in_Indiana: Tony, thanks for the dividing babies chat, you did great!
05/26/05 21:12:24 Tony_IL: we'll let it go this time LOL
05/26/05 21:12:28 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Paula!
05/26/05 21:12:31 Tony_IL: thanks J
05/26/05 21:12:33 Carol_SK: just wanted to show my face, I realize chat is over laffin
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05/26/05 21:12:37 Peggy_in_Pa: Great chat tonight
05/26/05 21:13:03 Peggy_in_Pa Logs Out
05/26/05 21:13:30 Tony_IL: warming up any Carol?
05/26/05 21:13:30 Jana_in_Indiana: any ideas for next week Tony?
05/26/05 21:13:40 Carol_SK: yes Tony it is
05/26/05 21:13:49 Jana_in_Indiana: warm enough?
05/26/05 21:13:53 Tony_IL: no J, it's your turn LOL
05/26/05 21:14:00 Jana_in_Indiana: I haven't checked lately, sorry!
05/26/05 21:14:06 Carol_SK: we were supposed to have a frost last night and I don't think it came!  So I would say we are in the clear now
05/26/05 21:14:12 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, tell me what topic to do & I will tony
05/26/05 21:14:59 Tony_IL: what haven't the chats hit? Bugs?
05/26/05 21:15:27 Jana_in_Indiana: well dang it Tony, I've never had bugs!  How can I do that topic?
05/26/05 21:15:31 Tony_IL: lights?
05/26/05 21:15:42 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, I do have lights, LOL!
05/26/05 21:16:01 Jana_in_Indiana: but I do it completely different!  :P
05/26/05 21:16:11 Tony_IL: tips on growing variegated ones vs green ones?
05/26/05 21:16:24 Carol_SK: that would be a good topic
05/26/05 21:16:30 Jana_in_Indiana: that chat would ewnd in 5 minutes
05/26/05 21:16:37 Jana_in_Indiana: end*
05/26/05 21:16:39 Carol_SK: laffin drag it out
05/26/05 21:17:21 Tony_IL: different, which lights? or variegated?
05/26/05 21:17:22 Carol_SK: any way I will let you two figure it out, and run along, I shall try to get here at a more decent hour the next time
05/26/05 21:17:42 Tony_IL: look forward to it Carol, nite
05/26/05 21:17:47 Jana_in_Indiana: lights, I have 2 fixtures & 4 bulbs per shelf, 25 watt bulbs
05/26/05 21:17:49 Carol_SK: variegated but you said it would be short, so that will not work
05/26/05 21:17:53 Carol_SK: nite
05/26/05 21:17:57 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite Carol!
05/26/05 21:18:02 Carol_SK Logs Out
05/26/05 21:18:29 Tony_IL: must have been on sale when you started
05/26/05 21:18:30 Jana_in_Indiana: well, we still have time to think it over, send me any ideas you come up with please?
05/26/05 21:18:42 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, no I did it to get more even coverage
05/26/05 21:19:01 Tony_IL: probably one of them midnight runs to WalMart LOL
05/26/05 21:19:16 Jana_in_Indiana: LOL, you know me too well Rooster!
05/26/05 21:19:38 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm happy if I get home before sunrise!   LOL
05/26/05 21:20:12 Tony_IL: will let you know if I come up with anything but the lights may be good. Grow lites vs warm and cool
05/26/05 21:20:39 Tony_IL: how many and how far from the plants
05/26/05 21:20:40 Jana_in_Indiana: ok, will do some research, don't use grow lights too $$$
05/26/05 21:20:46 Jana_in_Indiana: ok
05/26/05 21:20:47 Tony_IL: right
05/26/05 21:20:54 Tony_IL: later
05/26/05 21:20:58 Jana_in_Indiana: g'nite!
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