04/28/05 19:33:04 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232] 04/28/05 19:33:18 Clare_KS Logs Out 04/28/05 19:54:54 TonyC Logs in [207.43.75.34] 04/28/05 19:56:13 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232] 04/28/05 19:56:27 Clare_KS Logs Out 04/28/05 19:57:32 TonyC Disconnects 04/28/05 19:58:50 TonyC Logs in [207.43.75.34] 04/28/05 20:00:40 Sarah Logs in [216.45.168.113] 04/28/05 20:00:55 TonyC: hi Sarah 04/28/05 20:00:59 Sarah: hey tony 04/28/05 20:01:39 Sarah: how many violets do you have? 04/28/05 20:01:50 TonyC: Clare got booted about the same time I did. Hope she gets back 04/28/05 20:01:51 Jana_in_Indiana Logs in [172.149.228.106] 04/28/05 20:01:56 Sarah: Hey Jana 04/28/05 20:02:02 TonyC: Hi Jana 04/28/05 20:02:02 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Sarah 04/28/05 20:02:07 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tony 04/28/05 20:02:12 Jana_in_Indiana: BRB 04/28/05 20:02:51 TonyC: about 150+ varieties, but some doing better than others, Sarah 04/28/05 20:04:09 TonyC: you been at this long? 04/28/05 20:04:28 Sarah: About 2 months 04/28/05 20:04:35 Clare_KS Logs in [65.26.89.232] 04/28/05 20:04:40 Sarah: Hi Clare! 04/28/05 20:04:45 Clare_KS: Evenin' 04/28/05 20:04:48 TonyC: hi again Clare 04/28/05 20:05:04 Clare_KS: I had an entire 24 hours alone!!! First time in months. 04/28/05 20:05:10 Clare_KS: AAAAHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh 04/28/05 20:05:26 Shellie_NM Logs in [68.35.120.27] 04/28/05 20:05:37 TonyC: hi Shellie 04/28/05 20:05:41 Peggy_in_Pa Logs in [207.172.119.154] 04/28/05 20:05:50 Shellie_NM: Hi everyone 04/28/05 20:05:59 TonyC: hi Peggy 04/28/05 20:06:00 Sarah: Lol 04/28/05 20:06:01 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi everyone 04/28/05 20:06:20 Clare_KS: Hi P 04/28/05 20:06:32 Jana_in_Indiana: back, sorry for running off 04/28/05 20:06:44 TonyC: what's on everyone's mind tonight? 04/28/05 20:06:47 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Jana 04/28/05 20:06:50 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Clare, Peggy & Shellie 04/28/05 20:07:07 Jana_in_Indiana: don't ask! 04/28/05 20:07:32 Peggy_in_Pa: I'm busy getting ready for our show on May 13 04/28/05 20:07:41 Jana_in_Indiana: just got news that a firend of mine died this afternoon, I can't believe it! 04/28/05 20:07:49 Sarah: Oh my gosh Jana 04/28/05 20:08:01 TonyC: sorry to hear that Jana 04/28/05 20:08:12 Peggy_in_Pa: sorry to hear that 04/28/05 20:08:40 Clare_KS: Jana, I'm so sorry :( 04/28/05 20:09:24 Jana_in_Indiana: thank you, I was going to see him & his wife again this weekend 04/28/05 20:10:21 Walt_in_MD Logs in [24.35.119.251] 04/28/05 20:10:26 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry, I didn't mean to put a damper on things 04/28/05 20:10:29 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Walt 04/28/05 20:10:31 TonyC: Hi Walt 04/28/05 20:10:37 Peggy_in_Pa: brb i forgot puppy snack time 04/28/05 20:10:40 Peggy_in_Pa: HI walt 04/28/05 20:10:44 Jana_in_Indiana: BRB, phone 04/28/05 20:10:48 Walt_in_MD: Hi All 04/28/05 20:11:29 TonyC: is it almost time to ship leaves? 04/28/05 20:11:38 Sarah: Oooh, they found the woodpecker! 04/28/05 20:12:16 Carol_SK Logs in [142.165.188.63] 04/28/05 20:12:29 TonyC: hi Carol 04/28/05 20:12:32 Sarah: Hi Carol 04/28/05 20:12:47 Carol_SK: Hi Tony, Hi Sarah 04/28/05 20:13:09 Walt_in_MD: Hi Carol 04/28/05 20:13:46 Carol_SK: Hi Walt Hi Jana, Peggy Shellie andClare 04/28/05 20:14:12 sherry__(Mo) Logs in [172.148.119.90] 04/28/05 20:14:29 TonyC: hi Sherry 04/28/05 20:14:29 Shellie_NM: hi all 04/28/05 20:14:41 sherry__(Mo): Hi everyone-sorry I'm late!! 04/28/05 20:14:43 TonyC: Shellie, hi 04/28/05 20:14:53 del Logs in [70.64.104.53] 04/28/05 20:15:01 sherry__(Mo): Hi Del!! 04/28/05 20:15:09 Sarah: I should have gotten more people pictures at the Convention 04/28/05 20:15:22 Sarah: LOL, I only concentrated on the violets! 04/28/05 20:15:32 sherry__(Mo): Del, did you notice-we have more roosters now!! 04/28/05 20:15:34 del: hi everyone 04/28/05 20:15:40 TonyC: questions/comments from anyone? 04/28/05 20:15:48 TonyC: hi Del 04/28/05 20:15:58 Walt_in_MD: We see people all the time AV's were great. 04/28/05 20:16:02 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi DEl 04/28/05 20:16:08 Sarah: Ive been contemplating on doing wick watering.. what do you guys think is easiest? 04/28/05 20:16:44 sherry__(Mo): I like wicking Sarah 04/28/05 20:16:53 del: myself I found individual mat watering works better for my conditions 04/28/05 20:17:00 TonyC: vs. what Sarah, Watering weekly 04/28/05 20:17:18 Clare_KS: Del, how do you do individual mat watering? 04/28/05 20:17:33 Sarah: Well.. I have all different sizes.. so I just get the violets when they are dry, and set them in a cookie tray filled with water, and let them sit for a while, then set them on a towel 04/28/05 20:17:45 Walt_in_MD: I am just starting to, but not sure if I want to comunity wick or not. 04/28/05 20:18:12 sherry__(Mo): I wick ones that are on individual reservoirs too 04/28/05 20:18:46 Peggy_in_Pa: I can't seem to trust wicks they seem to stop working 04/28/05 20:18:53 Carol_SK: Walt are you the one that got all those gorgeous Champion violets? 04/28/05 20:19:14 Walt_in_MD: yes 04/28/05 20:19:27 del: I use 10 oz delly containers the clear ones from safe way I take the lid and cut 1 hole in each side of the lid 3/4 in dia then cut a piece of matting 3/4 in wide put this down each hole into the water and set the plant on top of the piece of matting tony 04/28/05 20:19:38 sherry__(Mo): Bet you had a great time Walt!! 04/28/05 20:19:43 EPPaar Logs in [172.209.137.2] 04/28/05 20:19:58 del: I found wicking kept the violets to wet for me at least 04/28/05 20:20:09 sherry__(Mo): welcome EEPaar 04/28/05 20:20:24 EPPaar: Thank you 04/28/05 20:20:35 del: Hi eepaar 04/28/05 20:20:41 EPPaar: Hi 04/28/05 20:20:48 Walt_in_MD: Sure did and they are really nice folks to deal with. I also bought a few Oyama pots to try. Any one using them? 04/28/05 20:20:48 del: where are you located ??? 04/28/05 20:21:03 EPPaar: Savannah 04/28/05 20:21:04 Sarah: who? 04/28/05 20:21:46 Carol_SK: they sound gorgeous Walt, you will enjoy them tremendously 04/28/05 20:22:00 sherry__(Mo): I've got a few of the Oyama pots Walt-they work good-but too expensive once you have lots of AV's 04/28/05 20:22:15 del: Tony got to messages and individual mat watering is described in message62545 as a tip of the week 04/28/05 20:22:17 Peggy_in_Pa: I have a few with the matting on a container, It seem to work if the pot is heavy enough to settle down in the matting 04/28/05 20:22:54 TonyC: rhanks, Del 04/28/05 20:22:56 del: even using the 2-1/2 solo cups it works peggy 04/28/05 20:23:13 sherry__(Mo): That's why I still wick-even if its on mats Peggy 04/28/05 20:23:19 del: welcome tony 04/28/05 20:23:49 EPPaar: Does anyone else use Optimara pots? 04/28/05 20:24:00 Peggy_in_Pa: do you think is has anything to do with the thickness of the mat 04/28/05 20:24:05 del: I have been using this matting way for over 2 years now 04/28/05 20:24:51 Walt_in_MD: matting with or without the plastic covering? 04/28/05 20:25:00 sherry__(Mo): Walt, O just looked at what you got today-you sure got some nice ones!! 04/28/05 20:25:01 Peggy_in_Pa: without 04/28/05 20:25:02 Shellie_NM Logs in [68.35.120.27] 04/28/05 20:25:03 del: it could easyeggy I am using a blnket for the mat and got a cheap blanket from wal mart to make the strips of matting 04/28/05 20:25:14 del: Hi Shellie 04/28/05 20:25:15 sherry__(Mo): Same here 04/28/05 20:25:33 BobJ-MD Logs in [68.49.70.97] 04/28/05 20:25:40 del: Hi Bob 04/28/05 20:25:40 Carol_SK: Hi Bob 04/28/05 20:25:46 sherry__(Mo): Hi Bob!! Another rooster! 04/28/05 20:25:47 Walt_in_MD: Hi Bob 04/28/05 20:25:55 TonyC: hi Bob 04/28/05 20:25:57 BobJ-MD: Hi Everyone 04/28/05 20:26:03 Shellie_NM: sorry I went poof, I accidentally hit the off switch on my surge protector while plugging in my speakers 04/28/05 20:26:05 Peggy_in_Pa: hi Bob 04/28/05 20:26:06 Sarah: Why is it that whatever food I see on survivor I then crave. 04/28/05 20:26:11 del: jana you get my e mail today ??? 04/28/05 20:26:45 Sarah: I am a dork. 04/28/05 20:26:48 BobJ-MD: Walt, did you send me an email? 04/28/05 20:27:05 Walt_in_MD: I was thinking about cutting up a blanket myself to try. 04/28/05 20:27:24 Sarah: how do you mat water AVs? 04/28/05 20:27:32 del: sure works for me walt 04/28/05 20:27:52 sherry__(Mo): I started out with some matting I had bought, but the blankets are cheaper and works just as good 04/28/05 20:28:00 Walt_in_MD: Sent one last night. Mine is mrwalt@cablespeed.com 04/28/05 20:28:40 BobJ-MD: The material I bought yesterday is a polyester. I had to soak it in soapy water in order to get it real wet. Now I'll see if it wicks or drys up. 04/28/05 20:28:54 del: also I see at the nursery they have a piece of matting blanket plus a tray for $3.95 and you set the pots on the blanket and it waters the violets 04/28/05 20:29:12 Walt_in_MD: I'll pick up a blanket this weekend and give it a try. You can also get a nicer color then the comm mats 04/28/05 20:29:30 BobJ-MD: What is the material of the blankets? 04/28/05 20:29:43 Shellie_NM: I prefer wick watering with reservoirs or tray covered with the plastic grids 04/28/05 20:29:48 del: the nursery ones are black matting color I bought one yesterday to try 04/28/05 20:29:58 EPPaar Logs Out 04/28/05 20:30:18 EPPaar Logs in [172.209.137.2] 04/28/05 20:30:31 del: can not spell it bob its arylatic(SP) 04/28/05 20:30:37 Sarah: acrylic 04/28/05 20:30:43 Sarah: ? 04/28/05 20:30:48 BobJ-MD: Acrylic? 04/28/05 20:30:52 Peggy_in_Pa: i got a dark green blanket cheap 04/28/05 20:30:56 Walt_in_MD: I was planning on putting the mat over the grid in the try so it would stay wet longer. 04/28/05 20:30:59 EPPaar Logs Out 04/28/05 20:31:10 Clare_KS: what do you use for the grid? 04/28/05 20:32:13 del: just use the large trays with the ribbing in them and lay the mat over that 04/28/05 20:32:46 Walt_in_MD: I bought a grid for a 2' by 4' light fixture and cut it up. used some section of pvc pipe to hold it up. 04/28/05 20:32:49 BobJ-MD: That's what I'm doing Walt. I'll try the fabic store for a remnent of ACRYLIC blanket material instead of the 04/28/05 20:33:10 sherry__(Mo): I use egg crating like you find in the light department 04/28/05 20:33:28 del: that is the way rachel does hers also walt 04/28/05 20:33:37 Sarah: Bob, they wouldnt sell that there 04/28/05 20:33:48 Sarah: Try a cheap blanket at wal-mart, that would be your best choice 04/28/05 20:33:53 Jana_in_Indiana: sorry, I was on the phone 04/28/05 20:33:54 Shellie_NM: I was using matts for my young plants but when I went away at christmas for two weeks I switched to the grids over the trays. That way the trays are reservoirs and the stay watered longer. 04/28/05 20:34:16 Jana_in_Indiana: yes Del, I did get your e-mail 04/28/05 20:34:29 BobJ-MD: WalMart had no blankets wen I was there yesterday. Out of seasno they said. 04/28/05 20:34:32 Jana_in_Indiana: hello to everyone that arrived while I was on the phone 04/28/05 20:34:36 Clare_KS: Sarah, they have blanket material in the fabric stores :) 04/28/05 20:34:41 del: thanks again for the beautiful card you sent Jana 04/28/05 20:34:48 Sarah: Fleece? 04/28/05 20:34:49 Walt_in_MD: That's what I ment the egg crate type. Bon't buy the silver plactic coated ones as they will peal 04/28/05 20:35:08 Jana_in_Indiana: you're welcome Del 04/28/05 20:35:25 Jana_in_Indiana: next year, let's see your face at convention, not a card for you! 04/28/05 20:36:07 Peggy_in_Pa: Yes Del I hope you will be ther 04/28/05 20:36:10 del: already mentioned the convention next year to the wife she said I was not going without her Jana 04/28/05 20:36:22 BobJ-MD: I thnk fleece is a polyester but not positive. Fabrics are out of my area of expertice. 04/28/05 20:36:29 Jana_in_Indiana: great! I'd love to meet your wife! 04/28/05 20:36:37 Sarah: Yeah, fleece is a poly 04/28/05 20:36:45 Walt_in_MD: You can put different sized spaces/rizers under the grid to increase the water supply 04/28/05 20:36:52 Jana_in_Indiana: now we need to work on getting Tony there! 04/28/05 20:36:54 del: same here bob I get the wife to pick mine up LOL 04/28/05 20:37:07 Clare_KS: isn't that what you're talking about, fleece? Like blanket fleece? 04/28/05 20:37:07 Peggy_in_Pa: del that's good bring her along 04/28/05 20:37:22 del: of course we need some more roosters there 04/28/05 20:37:31 BobJ-MD: If you use a polyester, how do you get it to draw water? 04/28/05 20:38:01 Jana_in_Indiana: soak it before using it 04/28/05 20:38:07 Clare_KS: I think any fabric will wick, if you start out with it wet. 04/28/05 20:38:12 Jana_in_Indiana: squeeze out all the air 04/28/05 20:38:19 Sarah: I think I might try wick watering my mini's 04/28/05 20:38:40 sherry__(Mo): Just makwe sure what ever it is is manmade so it doesn't rot 04/28/05 20:38:42 del: yes very important wet your matt before you start to use it 04/28/05 20:38:51 Clare_KS: right, Sherry. 04/28/05 20:38:57 Walt_in_MD: I think that a couple of good washings to get the chemicals off the material would really help with ployester 04/28/05 20:39:21 Clare_KS: Just remember not to use fabric softener :) 04/28/05 20:39:29 Clare_KS: that makes it water-resistent. 04/28/05 20:39:53 Walt_in_MD: you don't want to use cotton or wool as they will root on you 04/28/05 20:40:10 del: watch as some matting material if you use fert on it it will seperate turn to mush 04/28/05 20:40:31 Jana_in_Indiana: I use Sherry's elevated mat watering, only have to add water every 2 weeks 04/28/05 20:40:38 Jana_in_Indiana: what kinds Del? 04/28/05 20:41:03 sherry__(Mo): LOL Jana! Other people do it that way too 04/28/05 20:41:03 Sarah: Ill BRB... the parrot climbed up here for some attention 04/28/05 20:41:34 BobJ-MD: The first time I soaked and sqeezed out the excess then put both ends in the tray of water. te next day the center of the blanket was dry. I soaked in slSet it back on the ightly soapy water tonight and wrung it out. I'll see if it draws from the try overn 04/28/05 20:41:34 Jana_in_Indiana: but you were the first to tell me about it Sherry 04/28/05 20:41:43 Clare_KS: Is everything delayed a full hour tonight on TV? 04/28/05 20:41:55 del: not sure of the name but when I first bought it it was wrong stuff 1 month later all I had was pieces of matting left 04/28/05 20:42:57 Peggy_in_Pa: Jana how thick are the pieces of pvc pipe you use under the egg crate 04/28/05 20:43:05 Walt_in_MD: I bet it was cotton or wool 04/28/05 20:43:29 BobJ-MD: That's what happened when I put the matting material from Garners Garden Supply in my wife wash machine. Everything shredded. 04/28/05 20:43:48 Clare_KS: oooo, I bet you were in trouble, Bob!! 04/28/05 20:43:56 sherry__(Mo): LOL 04/28/05 20:43:58 Jana_in_Indiana: however think you slice them Peggy, LOL! but the thicker the slice, the higher the eggcrate sits & the more water you can put in the tray 04/28/05 20:44:28 Sarah: so you put the eggcrate in upside down, and then set the plants on top of it? 04/28/05 20:44:58 Jana_in_Indiana: I'm also using small (about 3 ") clay pots, set in upside down, to hold the eggcrate up, I put 1 in each corner & 1 in the center 04/28/05 20:45:05 Clare_KS: What do you use to cut the eggcrate without cracking it? 04/28/05 20:45:37 del: ahack saw works good 04/28/05 20:45:42 Jana_in_Indiana: wire cutters, my son does it, Tony has a quick way 04/28/05 20:45:43 sherry__(Mo): Someof mine are on individial resevoirs and some are on the egg crating-I think it helps keep my humidity up 04/28/05 20:45:54 Walt_in_MD: I say some of the commercial matting and it is not woven like a blank so I bet you made a mess in the machine. 04/28/05 20:46:01 sherry__(Mo): How do you cut yours Tony? 04/28/05 20:46:17 Sarah: I thought we were talking about the eggcrate mattress stuff 04/28/05 20:46:32 Shellie_NM: I used a small hand saw to cut the plastic egg crate 04/28/05 20:46:34 TonyC: scissors, I don't use the crate tey 04/28/05 20:46:43 TonyC: yet 04/28/05 20:46:44 BobJ-MD: I size the egg grate to the tray and open the ends so the mat can drop into the tray. I cut my egg crates on a band saw. 04/28/05 20:47:11 Tina Logs in [67.190.123.148] 04/28/05 20:47:13 Clare_KS: Sarah, this is the white grid that you would use in ceiling fixtures. 04/28/05 20:47:20 del: Hi Tina 04/28/05 20:47:25 Sarah: ok.. are wicks in the pots? 04/28/05 20:47:26 Walt_in_MD: I used a dremel tool to cut the one I bought 04/28/05 20:47:27 BobJ-MD: HI Tina! 04/28/05 20:47:28 Tina: Hello all 04/28/05 20:47:35 TonyC: hi Tina 04/28/05 20:47:39 Peggy_in_Pa: Hi Tina 04/28/05 20:47:40 Shellie_NM: hi tina 04/28/05 20:47:42 Jana_in_Indiana: my lighting pannels (as the hardware store calls them) are about 1 inch shorter than the inside of the tray 04/28/05 20:47:45 Jana_in_Indiana: Hi Tina 04/28/05 20:48:05 sherry__(Mo): Hi Tina 04/28/05 20:48:13 Clare_KS: Jana, you can buy it in big sheets, too...we used to use it for our aquariums when we were breeding. 04/28/05 20:48:20 Clare_KS: That was 2 lives ago :( 04/28/05 20:48:31 BobJ-MD: Jana, you must use large trays. 04/28/05 20:48:49 Jana_in_Indiana: the sheet I bought was 4 X 8', wouldn't want one any bigger, LOL 04/28/05 20:49:07 Clare_KS: wow, where do you get trays that big?? 04/28/05 20:49:15 Jana_in_Indiana: Lowes 04/28/05 20:49:23 Tina: you can get them at Lowe's or Home Depot in 2'x4' sheets 04/28/05 20:49:30 Clare_KS: what kind of trays are they? 04/28/05 20:49:31 sherry__(Mo): I get the 4x8 (I think it is!) and cut it to fit my trays 04/28/05 20:49:32 Jana_in_Indiana: not trays! Sorry, the eggcrate (lighting panels) 04/28/05 20:49:47 sherry__(Mo): Sorry! That's what it is 2x4 04/28/05 20:49:55 Clare_KS: then you suspend it over multiple trays? OR cut to fit?? 04/28/05 20:50:08 Clare_KS: <<<